853c40 No.685840 [View All]
How were the British able to bring one of the most powerful nations in the world to it's so quickly and with so few soldiers? Every book I've come across on the subject mostly focuses on how shameful it was for the British to wage two wars just to be able to sell drugs to the Chinese. The most they ever say about the conflict itself is just "the British won because they had superior firearms" but that doesn't explain much. The Chinese outnumbered the Brits 10 to 1 and were on the defensive. They still should have had the advantage.
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b437ba No.687300
>>687268
There was conscription, but nowhere near the levels the central states ever did, which is the point. When kings had to raise their armies from the nobles underneath them, their forces were limited and their ability to gather enough resources and manpower for major conquering was limited, and it lead to less conscription and more reliance on knights, professional soldiers and retainers, as well as mercenaries. Feudal states conscripted fewer men, relied on real warriors and soldiers, fought much more limited wars. The few serfs you might pick up for peasant levy in that system cannot be compared to the massive peasant levy systems of mass, mass conscription of central States and especially modern systems.
Also, the old peasant levy might be used more for labor and baggage trains, when they did fight they were expected to break and run with little discipline, they were placeholders and number buffers for the real center of the military force, which was the heavy infantry and cavalry. Today the conscript IS the center of the army. Two world wars show that there isn't going to be a few serfs conscripted to fight some limited war next time, instead the entire generation of men will be drawn and in purposely thrown into a suicide "throw em at the wall and see what sticks" strategy.
Oh, haven't you heard? Modern States are preparing to add women to the draft! So, at least the old system might draw up a few serfs, but the new system won't just draw every man of a wide age range to die in a worthless war, they will now do the great act of killing off the child bearing women!
>>687246
Say, how well is that German Republic keeping you safe from foreign invaders overrunning Germany? I hear if you keep worshiping the State and pray to Otto von Bismark, the refugees will assimilate faster!
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7cddc1 No.687302
>>687300
>When kings had to raise their armies from the nobles underneath them, their forces were limited and their ability to gather enough resources and manpower for major conquering was limited, and it lead to less conscription and more reliance on knights, professional soldiers and retainers, as well as mercenaries.
And guess what happened when the Kingdom of Hungary with this feudal system had to fight against the Ottoman Empire that could just drow our armies with superior numbers?
>Say, how well is that German Republic keeping you safe from foreign invaders overrunning Germany?
<put American vassals in charge of Germany
<act surprised when they are destroying Germany
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cef9ec No.687304
>>687302
The dude's clearly retarded.
I wish this fucking country would balkanize so I can either die, or live long enough to have a different flag to associate with.
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37e1d1 No.687308
>>685840
>why are subhumans subhuman?
I don't know anon, you tell me?
>>687304
>not wishing to cleanse it of every non-white like it should have been done in the 19th century
All the world's problems are very easy to fix, people just don't want to acknowledge the answers that are right in front of them.
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b437ba No.687309
>>687302
Yet decentralized Germany, the broken into a million independent states Holy Roman Empire that was a central power only in name and theory, managed to stop the Ottomans. Not a centralized empire. Can you blame all of Hungary's losses on centralism and decentralism? What about the armies the Turk's beat into the ground that were made of large armies of more average warriors?
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37e1d1 No.687310
>>687238
>the whole of the EU couldn't even bomb a shithole like Libya into submission and had to go cry bitch tears at the US to help them
>somehow be able to defeat the chink horde
Make note, this is not an endorsement of the chinks, but an acknowledgment of how Europe as a whole has fallen. Can anyone here seriously claim that the likes of modern France, England or Germany have the capacity to go to war, let alone the stomach for it?
>>687268
The more economically powerful the European nations became, the more capable they were of fielding standing armies of paid professionals - and the less they had to rely on knights and peasant levies to fight. At one point you had nobles buying whole batches of plate armor to equip thousands of troops with.
>>687309
Germany's current woes have nothing to do with centralization and everything to do with Jews and their traitorous allies.
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68ef0c No.687311
>>687309
>the broken into a million independent states Holy Roman Empire that was a central power only in name and theory, managed to stop the Ottomans
That's because the core of the Holy Alliance the Habsburg Monarchy that was basically Austria and Czechia (which was quite lot more German in those days) run under a single centralized state with the resources to supply the armies that did the fighting. And by the 17th century the Ottomans relied on woefully outdated tactics and equipment, and Europeans also became better at mobilizing greater armies, therefore the Turks were throughly beaten as they had nothing in their favour.
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192018 No.687315
>>687300
Say what you will about middle ages, bur I found it endlessly amusing when some English king called upon his subjects to muster for yet another fucking campaign, instead of thousands showing up, only few dozen knights and sergeants showed up. People had enough of king's retarded campaigns and simply did not show up, instead preferring to attend to their flocks and fields.
And my golly, the concept of lords waging war against other lords over people and resources is vastly more preferable to this fucking retarded concept of whole peoples being dragged to war to fight over some piece of paper or idea.
>>687236
You are full of shit and you have no idea what you are even talking about.
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09e216 No.687323
>>687300
>Say, how well is that German Republic keeping you safe from foreign invaders overrunning Germany? I hear if you keep worshiping the State and pray to Otto von Bismark, the refugees will assimilate faster!
What does Otto von Bismarck have to do with the Republic of Germany?
This faggot cuck man.
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09e216 No.687324
>>687315
>You are full of shit and you have no idea what you are even talking about.
Explain how?
inb4 China stronk
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d17d67 No.687439
>>687309
>Yet decentralized Germany, the broken into a million independent states Holy Roman Empire that was a central power only in name and theory, managed to stop the Ottomans. Not a centralized empire.
Well yeah, because you shouldn't belief modern lies about the Holy Roman Empire told for political convenience.
Its was an Empire that lasted a thousand years and already the first Emperor Charles I the Great, had to deal with Muslims.
>>687311
Ignoring two short reining exception the house of Habsburg continuously held the title of Holy Roman Emperor since 1415.
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739d59 No.687458
>>687300
The only kind of reply your kind deserve is "mutt".
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0244a8 No.687489
>>687315
That's why I'm a staunch royalist, 100% monarchy or go home.
Fuck democracy, fuck republics, fuck fascism, fuck communism, fuck everything. Monarchy is the only governmental system that survived longer than a few centuries, hell monarchies survived so long that humans have evolved to exist in a monarchy.
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ee36fc No.687492
>>687189
Race mixing isn't a problem as much as civilization mixing is.
Dead civilizations can be raped into inexistence as long as the one doing the raping is still alive (i.e. is capable of both self-defense and has a desire to expand)
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4b7399 No.687499
>>687492
You try and create a functional society out of mulattoes and halfcastes and let me know how that goes. Sure didn't go well for India.
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b437ba No.687504
>>687492
You can survive a cultural change, you can't survive genetic degradation. Human capital is the most important thing you have, once you have destroyed it its all over. The European races can suffer this neo liberal bullshit for a while, then eventually find its way back to strong old culture again and come back to greatness. It cannot survive being turned into genetic garbage and becoming a mixed race mud hole, it will then become a backwards wasteland forever and ever.
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1d4140 No.687505
>>685840
"traditional Chinese medicine" is ALL pure BS.
Opium works, at least for its purpose.
It would be like if we never had ANY electronics and then a Best Buy opened up downtown. No one is gonna listen to "dangers of cell phone addiction". They just gonna want some.
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ee36fc No.687506
>>687504
>you can't survive genetic degradation
Speaking from experience as an american?
>>687499
India died and was overtaken by a sickly-brown, more primitive "civilization".
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dda675 No.687507
>>687492
Please have a mulatto kid who hates you and keep your fetish to your self. You dont need to destroy civilization for everyone else for muh dick.
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d91475 No.687511
>>685845
They are low IQ compared to Whites. I know, I know all about the supposed 'IQ' testing but anyone who has worked, lived or been around bug people for any length of time knows that all they do is cheat at everything they put their hand to. There is not way that they are as high IQ as Whites and they are probably considerably lower, like in the mid 70's range based on historic genetic evidence.
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d91475 No.687514
>>687310
Go to war?
You mean leave their little children, women and young daughters in the hands of raping shitskins while they went off to fight for the globalists? That would be almost as insane as if Americans did the same thing and left their most precious thing on the planet; their DNA and heritage in the hands a spic and the open borders trash to 'go fight wars' for the globalists as well.
There would be nothing left for them to come home to, their children would have been kidnapped raped or killed and sold and their wives would have been raped, killed or enslaved in another part of the world.
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21774b No.687517
>>687511
>anyone who has worked, lived or been around bug people for any length of time knows that all they do is cheat at everything they put their hand to
The Chinese government only allows university students to take the IQ tests that they publish as their "national average". All the millions of 60IQ farmer peasants are never allowed to take the tests to drag the average down.
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d91475 No.687518
>>687517
Even their university students are not high IQ compared to 'average' Europeans. They are filtering out all the low IQ people but their best 'average' is not as high as just our normal average. If we didn't have invading hordes of subhuman trash in our nations we would be far superior to them in testing but you can't handicap us with people who have an IQ of 53 and expect that civilization (in any form) will continue, let alone be reflected in 'competitive IQ testing'. Civilization is a product of generational IQ and ability to sacrifice to reach a goal. Subhuman trash does not have this ability, this is why they have never formed any real or substantially worthwhile civilizations in the past. Most of the 'famous ruins' and other evidence for great civilizations came from people that they murdered and cannibalized the civilization AFTER they invaded. Otherwise the ability to build and sustain a civilization would be an integral part of their DNA, and it is not.
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4b7399 No.687519
>>687506
Oh yes all those indo-europeans just disappeared then a bunch of muds came out of islands to the south and replaced them. They totally didn't interbreed with them and form the shitty people known today as the modern Indian.
You have no idea what you're talking about. The modern Indian is a mix of several different races and they're shit. The caste system differentiates by whiteness because it's directly correlated with your intellectual worth.
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d91475 No.687521
>>687519
>directly correlated with your intellectual worth.
This is true all over the entire planet. Anyone who 'down breeds' to animal status or dicks mongrels is cutting off their progeny forever a civilized or intellectual future.
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4b7399 No.687522
>>687521
Yes, which is what I am trying to explain to the Pollack.
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d91475 No.687524
>>687522
Exactly. Only I would also say that it was directly correlated to your genetic worth over time, rather than something as arbitrary as 'intellectual worth'. I am not as smart as my mother (she was 180+ IQ) but my son is high IQ. So, the IQ breeds true which means that the civilization can be sustained over time. One high IQ in a sea of subhuman 60 IQ's can never sustain civilization. Our European/White civilization was maintained because the recessive DNA holds a consistent level of high trust, high IQ longevity by its nature. Negros having a GEDMATCH to chimpanzees have more genetic diversity which cannot sustain civilization because there is no one to pass the knowledge to generation to generation. Introducing high amounts of 'diversity' to the highly recessive true breeding European DNA will only result in the complete end of our civilization.
If we don't get radical and quit fucking the subhuman trash or even considering it to be 'breeding material' OF ANY SORT all of civilization will collapse and we will end up EXACTLY like the disgusting street shitters in India.
tl;dr you are 100% correct I feel I am preaching to the choir.
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55ed6f No.687526
>>687518
>Civilization is a product of generational IQ and ability to sacrifice to reach a goal.
>has never seen the way a pure modern euro acts nowadays
Protip: the shit "culture" imported from muttmerica, russia and produced from the retardation of boomer and 80s people is just as destructive as nigger and muttblood.
It is turning young euros into retarded niggers with pale skin. Who know they will never be punished for anything except being gnatzees.
Everyday it is looking more like evening for us and morgen for the chinks.
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8dc41f No.687528
>>687506
>Speaking from experience as an american?
>polish flag
Oh, the irony.
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55ed6f No.687530
>>687528
>implying bolan's own shit culture didnt result in the OG multikulti state and the nigger tier mentality
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75b509 No.687535
>>685840
>How were the British able to bring one of the most powerful nations in the world to it's so quickly and with so few soldiers?
>The Chinese outnumbered the Brits 10 to 1 and were on the defensive. They still should have had the advantage
Daily reminder that the only wars China has won are civil wars. The only thing weaker than a Chinaman is another Chinaman. Actually, I tell a lie. I forget the date but there was a single incident where several regiments of Chinese infantry were used to butcher a few hundred - unarmed - Russian farmers who wandered into Manchuria. China is still convinced that this was a glorious victory that they should be proud of.
It's also useful to remember that Britain wasn't interested in conquering/colonising China during the Opium wars. If we had been trying something like that then the inevitable guerrilla warfare would have made the occupation all but unmanageable given the sort of terrain you see in the Chinese interior. The British forces never went further inland than their naval fire support could reach; against armies of drug addled peasants - most of whom were still issued with spears - trained marines with heavy artillery support and better training, discipline, and equipment will have very little trouble. Once they'd secured the rivers, canals, and selected coastal fortifications it was pretty simple to push the Chinese government into making all the concessions they wanted.
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64da09 No.687538
>>687535
>I forget the date but there was a single incident where several regiments of Chinese infantry were used to butcher a few hundred - unarmed - Russian farmers who wandered into Manchuria
Wasn't that the start of the Boxer rebellion? A good read if you want a perspective on the Chinese is Ways that are Dark: The Truth About China
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97335e No.687540
>>687439
Hohenstaufen >>>> Habsburgs. The Emperor rules on Earth, not the pope.
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7965fc No.687541
>>687538
No, the Boxer Rebellion started because German Missionaries figured they could fix and tame chink society and in turn got murdered by guys who figured their shaolin shadowboxing and wutang sword style could beat western technology i.e.bullets, sioux levels of delusion. Their whole goal was fucked as well, they wanted to drive the foreigners out and in the end got shot by them while they murdered random peasants on the countryside as well as in Peking.
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89298e No.687543
>>687518
>>687518
>Athens
>99
Not sure who's to blame for this. The hundreds of thousands of albanians or the absolutely abhorrent school "education" we have
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978abb No.687549
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208843 No.687550
>>685969
>central statism
Suckling on your pinky to intuit the ways of the world is a true intellectual feat for libertarians.
sage for ot
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c2e33a No.687552
>>687541
>guys who figured their shaolin shadowboxing and wutang sword style could beat western technology i.e.bullets
To be fair, they only thought that because they believed they had magic superpowers and that armies of supernatural beings would fight along side them.
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fa516b No.687555
>>687550
>being a political "science" major
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75b509 No.687589
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>>687552
>they only thought that because they believed they had magic superpowers and that armies of supernatural beings would fight along side them.
Are you suggesting that their 'just like one of my Japanese Anime's' tier thinking/beliefs are a point in their favour?
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d91475 No.687596
>>687595
Who wouldn't want to be electrically castrated by you jews?
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0244a8 No.687597
>>687526
>Protip: the shit "culture" imported from muttmerica, russia and produced from the retardation of boomer and 80s people is just as destructive as nigger and muttblood.
>culture imported from america
>culture imported from russia
>europe "imported" its problems
This is bullshit.
Europe exported their problems to the world when it sent the Frankfurt School to America.
The Frankfurt school then started the counterculture, the destruction of culture by hippies and boomers.
Only in the 1990s was this counterculture spread to Europe.
I don't know what the fuck you're talking about with Russia, the only thing Europe imports from Russia is gas and oil.
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d91475 No.687599
>>687597
>Europe imports from Russia is gas and oil.
and Bolsheviks? They did win WWII…there is a thread on /pol/ right now where some fag is trying to convince anons that Khazarians are German. It is pretty funny. No DNA testing for verification that they have German DNA just 'take their word for it' that semitic trash is 'German' and allow the invasion of Germany to continue.
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9e84ec No.687601
>>687597
>Europe exported their problems to the world when it sent the Frankfurt School to America.
They went to Burgeristan on their own, it's the Burgers fault for letting them in.
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d91475 No.687602
>>687601
>it's the Burgers fault for letting them in.
For not killing them and for continuing not to kill them today. BT taught them NOTHING.
>muh leadership, can't make a move without muh leadership
{helpless whimpering}
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13ae2b No.687612
>>687602
Teach us how to kill the invaders and traitors schnitzelkun, I'm sure you have much experience and are well on your way to liberating yourselves from zog
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9e84ec No.687614
>>687612
>zog
>a term used to describe the Federal Government of the USA
>only exists because those freedumb-lovin' 'muricans couldn't keep their freedumbs
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13ae2b No.687625
>>687614
How would you refer to the pro-israel jew run government that is the EU then hungry-san?
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9e84ec No.687634
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4d9611 No.687702
>>687310
>At one point you had nobles buying whole batches of plate armor to equip thousands of troops with
Got a source? Everything I've heard about the late medieval/early renaissance says that Brigandines were used by rank and file while proper full plate was too expensive to see much use aside from nobility and wealthy mercenaries. Many parts of a plate harness have to be custom fit to the owner or you can cause all sorts of problems.
>>687550
>completely failed to disprove anything he said
wew
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