7460f6 No.670987 [View All]
jamming
Why did their guns jam? What did they do wrong? What could they have done to avoid what happened? Tarrant appears to have recovered and cleared his weapon, but Earnest did not. Please compare the two. Even if Tarrant was more competent than Earnest, was he still relatively unskilled despite the supposed 2 years of prep?
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a831f4 No.672156
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7b5ca9 No.672157
>>672156
Don't neglect it then.
It's still gonna be more reliable than a DI AR.
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be1429 No.672159
>>672153
>I can't even own guns but I'm going to tell you what to do based off a literal communist boomer meme
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7b5ca9 No.672160
>>672159
It's not about the gun itself, just that gas operated action > DI.
And I don't trust american stuff in general to be quite honest famalam.
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67bd35 No.672192
>>672160
Direct impingement IS gas operated, you fucking moron, and the AR-15 isn't even direct impingement. It's a piston system where the bolt carrier acts as the piston. Adding a separate piston between the gas tube and 'gas key' in ARs has always proven to be damaging to the action, which is something you would know if you had ever followed the news around the HK416 or M27 IAR and how short the service life on those meme rifles is. Not to mention HK apparently can't into making barrels anymore worth a shit.
>my country has no domestic manufacturing capabilities at all and never has in its entire history to the point where we literally bought weapons from fucking North Korea in our last war and I have no demonstrable knowledge of firearms whatsoever but I am totally qualified to make sweeping statements about the largest gun industry in the entire world!
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373d2a No.672222
>>672153
Peak boomer posting from no-gunz
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373d2a No.672223
>>672135
Well you're going to have to show me evidence that he got paid and was given free test pieces until then you're talking out your ass. Mag dumping two or three magazines isn't going to start causing failures because the damn rifle is being ran hard.
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d1276f No.672225
>>672192
There's still NO actual pison.
>It's a piston system where the bolt carrier acts as the piston.
Which doesn't work.
>which is something you would know if you had ever followed the news around the HK416 or M27 IAR and how short the service life on those meme rifles is.
Uh, Norway is still using them, as well as the muhreen corps, and a fuckton more soldiers all over the world, including ruskies.
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d1276f No.672227
>>672222
Only american fucking retards defend DI now.
Reminder that BOTH modern DI rifles in existence, the FAMAS and AR-15 both fucking suck.
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f88ede No.672228
>>672227
>FAMAS
>DI
Not to mention that it works like a charm with the ammunition it was designed for.
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67bd35 No.672229
>>672227
>FAMAS
>DI
You illiterate subhuman nigger, just stop talking. Everything you say just makes you look more and more retarded. There is no gas system in the FAMAS, it's a fucking blowback action. Do you even know what direct impingement means? Christ, why are you even on this board if you're too much of a lazy faggot to at least read a book or sit through a Forgotten Weapons video or something? What do you do in your free time, suck ladyboy cock? Knowledge about firearms is a prerequisite for posting here, and it is clear that you don't have a single bit of knowledge in any conceivable manner. I am embarrassed by the sight of you. Your whore mother is spinning at 1000 RPM in her grave from the shame of having birthed you.
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d1276f No.672230
>>672228
Yeah, like how the AR-15 works like a champ if you lube it up.
>>672229
OK, honest mistake.
Should have said the MAS 49.
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772513 No.672234
>>672229
>Knowledge about firearms is a prerequisite for posting here
>/k/
>knowledge
oh im laffing
You have to be borderline retarded to expect anything good from nu-/k/.
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d1276f No.672235
>>672234
Getting one thing wrong doesn't stop you from being knowledgeable.
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373d2a No.672236
>>672229
>Knowledge about firearms is a prerequisite for posting here,
If only you knew how bad things really are.
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0c3720 No.681192
>>670995
counterpoint: lengthening your rifle means they can see you coming around corners, and also grab your gun by the bayonet to control your aim from a further distance.
>>671027
if you're already gone before they arrive, scaring first responders is moot. Plus what if you damage building to point of ceiling coming down and blocking potential exit?
>>671038
next question: why did Brenton drop the mag?
also please explain brass to sky vs ground?
>>671183
>You'll never see brass to the sky in any professional's kit.
>Which further solidifies my suspicion that Breton "The Hammer" Tarrant is the real deal.
but >>671038 said his was to the sky not grass so wouldn't that make him noob?
>>671109
>took le jew mene literally and did a half-assed attack on a low level branch of a completely different religious denomination than the one intended
I don't understand, you mean he should've targeted some different sect of Judaism? Still better than nothing.
>>671159
>engineers his attack so that gun laws will be passed
Fucking hell, you'll accuse any white man attacking enemy invaders with firearms as engineering gun law reform, won't you?
>he even mentions this directly in his manifesto
He said it's inevitable, but better a collapse when there are enough whites to fight back, than later when we're too few, I think was his logic?
>>671199
>zero discussion of gun jamming
not 0, more like 1%, some guys did mention how to orient magazines for reloads and how dropping can fuck them up
>I don't know nor care about the newfag tryhard who shot up whatever recently.
What's wrong with hypothesizing why newfag's gun jammed? Gotta start with the basics.
>>671640
>When Earnest went for the high score and fell flat on his face, he generated sympathy for the Jews, not for his own people.
As did Bowers when he had some moderate success. But then, some (albeit less, I think) sympathized with the muslim deaths too.
I think if you are going to inevitably cause sympathy you may as well be effective about it. That's where Bowers failed: all the jews he killed were already grandparents. The damage is already done, the new generation is already there. Of course, if you went for a jewish high school or something, it would probably generate even more sympathy.
Maybe the only real way to beat them is to educate the public somehow? Thus our meming? I think really truly understanding the Torah and statements of significance is also very important. Back in the 80s/90s you had Atheists dissecting the Old/New testament, then in the 00s/10s people dissecting the Quran, the 20s/30s should be for dissecting the Torah and educating people about how much inner preference, commands to lie, tolerance of slavery, depraved shit.
>>672236
TBH came here because I wanted to learn about them, figured like any board is a mix of people who know more and who know less
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883bde No.681211
>>681192
> and also grab your gun by the bayonet to control your aim from a further distance.
I can't tell if you're genuine or just pretending to be a retard.
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13838a No.681235
>>681211
Didn't the moro's do that?
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52faee No.681259
>>670987
Its already been mentioned, most likely poor preparation, cleaning/lubing of parts. Weapon choice is also another thing to consider.
Do you intend to solo a mob with a rifle or will you upgrade to fully automatic barrel bombs of LGBTBBQ mist?
You could also just mix Fetanyl and water into a watergun, not like anyone’s going to notice all the niggers overdosing on the sidewalk at night
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3fff76 No.681267
Dude, just shove jam into the action if your gun. It can't jam if it's already jammed.
What's the most operator flavor of jam?
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15634c No.681292
>>681259
Weapon maintenance / skill is definitely a factor.
Suspect shit-tier ammo as well.
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73c2c6 No.681499
>>671314
Fun fact for you cool cats out there trying to mix soap and gasoline over a stove: don't. Just put it into an airtight container, and use a vacuum pump to put it into deep vacuum instead. Once you get into a deep enough micron level, the liquid will boil itself, and you won't have to worry about a fire.
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ed1466 No.681556
>>671203
It wouldn't have jammed simply on the merit that 1. it uses a piston instead of full length gas tube, and 2. the larger diameter of the projectile would have had a small chance of catching or deforming during feeding.
The biggest issue that I can really take away from using an ak is volume of fire. There are a lot of if then/then trade off's between ar's and ak's.
With an ak he probably would have gotten maybe half the kills he had. Reloading ak's is finicky as you have to rock it into place, along with them being about 30% longer than 30-rnd ar mags, so keeping them in a rig may have been troublesome. To top it off ak mags have a couple of bits that jut out (the pieces used to seat/lock it into the rifle) that are prone to catching on pouches.
The benefit to an ak is that it blows just as opposed to blowing thru. So if you manage to get a hit on someone with an ak then they're probably going to die, even if not instantly.
Another big issue with ak's is that they really are inaccurate as fuck. This may be remedied with a full stock and/or optics, but the very nature of ak's is lead slingers.
Regardless of the pros and cons, for CQB, both are good platforms, you just need to make the proper adjustments to ensure flawless operation. In the end, whatever you can get within reason will do. IMO if you expect open areas of 50yds or more, go with an ar, it's made for those distances.
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f57861 No.681557
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ed1466 No.681558
>>672040
>wasting multi-million dollar torps on rubber rafts
Just put a 50. with API on it and call it a day.
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0c3720 No.682778
>>681211
wearing a mailed glove, obviously, unless you are Edward Elric
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431b20 No.682783
What's recommended to lube guns? Does WD40 does the trick?
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1d8fb5 No.682799
>>682778
How many people wear mailed gloves to work just in case they get caught in a mass bayoneting?
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d3c11c No.682835
>>671631
>Earnest was a retard who did it because he wanted to look cool
Smarter and cooler than you, that's for sure.
> Bowers killed random Jews who weren't responsible for the demographic problem
Bowers carried out his shooting in a HIAS affiliated synagogue you fucking retard, literally a synagogue involved in the ethnic displacement and genocide of europeans, but you already proved you don't know shit about what you're talking, don't bother responding.
Why do these niggers come here to shill?
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59142d No.682881
>>682835
>shooting a random 90 year old granny saves the white race
The subhuman is you.
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c7b169 No.682891
>>682783
WD-40 is an evaporating compound, it will evaporate over time. How the fuck do you think that'll help your weapon? filenamerelated how do you live with yourself being so absolutely retarded?
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e30447 No.682907
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
>>681556
Comes back personal competency. If you are proficient, a tactical reload won't depend on your firearm choice in most cases, if you gain proficiency you will do well. The very real, as well as the very supposed, advantages of the AR style system for magazine changes aren't going to make and break someone who is prepared. Brenton was prepared and proficient, that is why he did as well as he did. The kid was fucking not prepared and failed.
The AK family is accurate enough with iron sights for short range combat. Same with the rest. Its not a lack of optics, not a lack of magazine this and that. Want to be honest, you can take a gun with poorer ergonomics and be extremely effective, IF you are trained and prepared.
>>682783
>>682891
I've got this itchy feeling there is trollin' afoot.
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888d6f No.682921
>>672075
Hahahaha what the fuck. 130 pound manlet with incredible stamina, attributed to hours of autistic DDR. I walk 10+ miles a day at my job, I'm basically an Olympic athlete by these standards.
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d3c11c No.682923
>>682881
it literally does.
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a41625 No.682924
>>682891
More specifically, WD40 removes fluids and grease. I don't know what kind of retard thought it was a lubricant but now it seems that everyone thinks so.
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6dbbb5 No.682950
>>682921
BAN ASSAULT DDR! THEY TRAIN THE KIDS IBTO COMBAT KILLING MACHINES!
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a41625 No.682982
>>682921
>walk 10+ miles
Now try running 50+ miles, which is more of a several hours of dance dance revolution equivalent.
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3c6452 No.683004
>>671319
>"autists never maintaining their cheapo rifles reflects on the rifle and not the user"
Literally not even close to what he said.
>>671396
My goodness the butthurt is real.
>>671469
Relatively fine, usually. They're not terribly unreliable. I just think some people on this board simply refuse to accept even the possiblity of an AR15 ever jamming to the point to where they deserve to be mocked for their absurd emotional attatchments.
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e30447 No.683034
>>683004
> I just think some people on this board simply refuse to accept even the possiblity of an AR15 ever jamming to the point to where they deserve to be mocked for their absurd emotional attatchments.
People get awfully stupid about things, especially "muh X" whatever X is. They lose objectivity and become pathological, eventually becoming a form of shitscum in every conversation they discuss on the issue. We go from productive dialogue to retard fight debate and lose potentially all usefulness of the conversation.
Beyond people defending the X that they love, there is legit astroturfing out there. Some to defend mantras that have some positive value to them (my well maintained gun never fails, so I will maintain it and have confidence in it), as well as people defending the choices that have been made, which is nothing new. Keep in mind that mantras have negative aspects as well as positive (my gun never jams, so I won't take care of it, my gun never jams so i can run it hot and hard without fear of problems from abuse), that even if we speak mantras for positive effect we should not delude ourselves into bad habits and acts. Confidence is good, swagger and arrogance can be fatal mistakes.
I like my delayed roller actions, the H&K design is arguably the most reliable of all assault/battle rifles, submachine guns. Yet, I don't go about as if my rifle can't fail, I keep clearing in mind. Practice those things, make sure you know what to do when your gun fails. Do the drills, practice. My C93 is a cheap practice gun for my PTR, I keep the 33 in less then well maintained condition for practice, and between the fouling and Century's shitty assembling, the rare instances of the purposely sabotaged rifle having "jams' is excellent real life shooting drill practice for failure of the action. Go out and shoot 1,000 rounds in a day some time, get the gun good and fouled and see if it fails, don't let the gun cool down too much, see how it does.
Experiencing a minor failure in practice can be a humiliating (in a good way) experience, IF we accept the reason why it failed, IF we practice good clearing practice and learn from it. Marching straight forward with "muh gun never jams" is a dangerous one.
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373d2a No.683524
>>683004
>James Holmes' AR 15 jammed as well IIRC.
Yes, James Holmes was an aspie and he didn't maintain his cheapo rifle and used a shitty beta mag. It's exactly what he said.
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373d2a No.683528
>>681192
>why did Brenton drop the mag?
He didn't have any active retention on his magazines, not to mention he had them upside down, so when a muslim invader tackled him half of his magazines just fell out of his carrier. Active retention would be something like bungee cords, kydex retention, or velcro straps.
>also please explain brass to sky vs ground?
Brass to the grass comes from MG reloading but it also applies to magazines in a carrier or pouch. When you go to grip a magazine in a pouch it's much easier to grip the magazine by the base so when you go to reload the rifle you can just flip it and stick it in the firearm. If it was the other way, brass to the sky, you'd have to change your grip completely instead of a simple rotation of your hand, making the reload slower than it has to be.
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6f9cb7 No.683590
>>671036
>Had to be issues with the rifles themselves or the rifle/ammo combos.
yep
>What firearm did Earnest use?
cheap remington. the same one that appears on the /k/ budget gun guide i think
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f48bb4 No.683595
>>683590
Budget guide doesn't have any remshit on it.
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6f9cb7 No.683596
>>683595
m&p sport. my mistake
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a98d37 No.683762
>>682891
>>682924
Just use windex.
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373d2a No.683890
>>682924
>I don't know what kind of retard thought it was a lubricant
Probably from the instructions, retard. That being said, it's not the best oil for lubbing up firearms as it does burn off at high temps.
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e324b4 No.683893
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249e57 No.690380
>>671159
lol these troll faggots are a joke. promoting false flags, divide and conquer, next the jew faggot will attack White woman. If these jewish retards aren
't wiped out, soon, this world deserves to expire as it predictably will.
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249e57 No.690381
>>683893
drumpf is such a spineless jewish faggot, so is biden, they aree all blood related too lol. america keeps talking it up the ass like the rest of the west is controlled by crypto jews who are scared to admit they are jews, that alone is very telling isn't it. They know what they are and they know too many people are already aware that jews are evil sons of jewish whores, and probably of satan (yahweh) also.
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2ae9f3 No.690394
These false flags aren't obvious to you retards? LOL
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