df7030 No.662989 [Last50 Posts]
This a bread to discuss silly alt-history scenarios that would be nigh impossible from a physics standpoint but could still be fun to shitpost about for their sheer absurdity.
Anyhow I've been wondering how WW2 could've turned out if Thule society memesters had used ancient Annunaki magicks to open a 3x3m Stargate between Königsberg and Hsinking by pure luck just prior to the fall of France, allowing for the instantaneous transfer of men and materiel between Japan and Germany over a distance of some seven thousand kilometers.
How deeply would the German and Japanese militaries have cooperated in such an event?
At the minimum I can see the Nips abandon their plans to attack burgers in the Pacific assuming Nippon still gets sanctioned in favor of creating german-trained Tank battalions equipped with license-built Pz. IIIs for the purpose of doing a joint Barbarossa.
Ideally the Luftwaffe and IJN/IJAAS would conduct joint trials and arrange for Japanese aircraft to escort german bombers deep over British territory during the BoB, leading to Nips abandoning their turn fighter autism in favor of cannon-armed high speed energy fighters.
The Kriegsmarine could speed up construction on the Graf Zeppelin and train its crew on Japanese carriers in Asia while the Nips would get german aero engines amid a host of german aircraft designs to directly compare against their own.
Germans could import centimetric Radar from Nips while in turn fixing Japan's crappy AEW doctrine, Nips could sell Type 91 torpedoes to Germans in return for the J1N and Ki-45 getting FuG radar equipment and so on Mussolini would hopefully be too distracted by all the autism to invade Greece.
If word got out to the Allies would they try and stage a joint UK/US/USSR/Free French assault on East Prussia ASAP?
Would Burgers attack Nips preemptively in the Pacific and would Chinese civilians in Nip-conquered areas be less inclined to turn to Mao and other allied scum if the local japanese rape administration were swapped with friendly germans?
How long would german and japanese intelligence even be capable of hiding the Gate from glow in the darks?
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874d01 No.663000
>>662989
>Anyhow I've been wondering how WW2 could've turned out if Thule society memesters had used ancient Annunaki magicks to open a 3x3m Stargate between Königsberg and Hsinking by pure luck just prior to the fall of France
They would have used it to supply Chinese nationalist with gear to fight Japan which is what they were still doing in 1940.
You want me to spell it out for you: Germany is and has always been
RETARDED
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No amount of fairy tale make believe BS is gonna change that simple fact.
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e330a7 No.663005
Is this some book/videogame idea? I'm not sure if I've seen it somewhere. It's pretty cool, since it creates a possibility for major axis powers to be more truly allied and form a more united front. The shit could get very interesting given how axis powers had different areas of specialization and thus could reinforce weaknesses of their allies (at least if they wouldn't get into autistic fights just like it was often was between all-japanese IJNAS and IJAAS or italians vs germans in africa), pretty much like you said. The biggest problem would be keeping it from hostile intelligence and actually fitting anything through such a small gate. 3x3m Stargate would allow to barely fit a panzer III through it, zeroes only had folding WINGTIPS so you could drop down their wingspan down to 10 meters, perhaps 9. So you likely wouldn't find a way to transport them. This way you would only be able to transport pilots and parts of airplanes to other countries and then assemble them later on. Workable, but not very efficient, german autism would have to go into much bigger overdrive in order to increase the size of such stargate. But even if they were to force dissasembled zeroes through the gate and have japanese fighters fight over UK, the RAF would be way more screwed since zeroes were way more modern than early spitfires and hurricanes, they would outperform these both in dogfight and energy combat. Not to mention the fact that jap pilots were very experienced from the war in chine and focused on individual skill which would pay off the most against a weaker opponent.
But since we are literally playing with esoterics and magic, the theoeritc groundwork for conducting such operations is fairly minimal and we have no way of telling if it would be easy to increase the size of the stargate.
Also, wouldn't it require two portals in order to work? One in germany and one in asia? It would be pretty difficult to set up those given how it would not only be some top-secret tech, but also very fresh one, likely hard to build
If the stargates were easy to replicate, then axis forces would be able to drastically improve their logistic capability (which was always overstretched during barbarossa). Syberia lacks proper infrastructure - the japanese would most likely have to build their own along the way. The only salvation would be the portals which would make the transportation way easier. The japs could gain useful territory at the beggining of the invasion, but later on it would become a fight over huge snowy wasteland stretching over thousands of kilometers. But even then russians would either have their divisions tied in combat by the japanese or annihilated by pincer action. (SNLF could try and secure some ports northwards from the planned russian front along the manchurian border cutting off the russians) Even this alone would have the chance to tip the balance towards the victory of axis forces. Not to mention the shenanigans that could be done with literally deep striking as much as you can fit through a gate into any place where you have constructed another portal. Special wizard-pioneer companies attached to panzer corps which would build portals along the panzergruppen strike vectors where reserve infantry troops can be casually deployed and used to either dig in and hold the freshly-created cauldron walls freeing up mechanised/motorised infantry to support the panzer divisions in further offensive/flanking action. And don't even get me started on how easier the logistics would be again.
I don't think allies could rally up neither in numbers nor in speed high enough to conduct a massed attack on germany. I mean, they still would have a fight on their hands in africa. And in africa again would the portals be used to transport supplies. There would be, no need to waste ships and oil. Italians could just sit and commence fleet-in-being operations. that is, sit in port for the whole duration of war
I don't think the US would join the war quickly enough to stir shit up especially since the outcome of the battle of england would likely be a moderate success so the germans wouldn't feel so inclined to move their uboots closer to american soil in order to hunt for the convoys.
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e330a7 No.663006
>>663005
Now, the real problem would be tightening the relations between both countries so early on, it's not like japan trusted germany that much, they outright thought that germans betrayed the anti-comintern pact and therefore decided to sign the anti-agression pact with russia, turning their gaze towards the pacific instead of russia. So basically, all I've said about the early cooperation in destroying the anglos in 1940 would be almost impossible to do diplomatically since I really doubt that japan would want to suddenly transport their brand new fighters to fight in doubtfully profitable war with an ally they don't know they can really rely on.
Axis pact was much more of a conglomeration of predators rather than an actual alliance so it's way more difficult to conduct joint operations. Army group south during operation barbarossa felt it a lot, when german high command had to somehow manage to force contingents coming from five different nations to cooperate. And they often failed in communications, sparked rivalries or straight up gave tasks too difficult for poor and badly equipped minor axis armies.
And if portal tech is possible, then why wouldn't it be possible for the allies? I'm sure there would be chances for allies to catch up to germans in the use of portal technology. Either it would become too popular thus making it easier to capture, study or even interrogate left-behind personnel eventually reverse-engineering the tech or germans would consider it too important to loose or just straight up too expensive thus limiting it's usefulness.
This activates my autism, I sure would love to read a japanese mango about ww2 wizards doing cool shit like this and more.
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70d239 No.663007
>>663006
> I sure would love to read a japanese mango about ww2 wizards doing cool shit like this and more.
Kutsuzure Sensen: Witch Vasenka's War - 靴ずれ戦線 -魔女ワーシェンカの戦争?
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e330a7 No.663015
>>663007
didn't read, but seems to be ok-tier, I'll check it out, thanks anon
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df7030 No.663023
>>663006
>>663005
>Also, wouldn't it require two portals in order to work? One in germany and one in asia? It would be pretty difficult to set up those given how it would not only be some top-secret tech, but also very fresh one, likely hard to build
Well technically the wormhole is one giant space-time tube so if one end collapses it's fucked.
ITTL the Thule society doesn't have much of an idea why their meme ritual went so well so they can't just freely create another Gate elsewhere at least not early on.
>The biggest problem would be keeping it from hostile intelligence and actually fitting anything through such a small gate. 3x3m Stargate would allow to barely fit a panzer III through it, zeroes only had folding WINGTIPS so you could drop down their wingspan down to 10 meters, perhaps 9.
Any larger objects would have to be disassembled, however this should not be too much of a problem since 3x3 is big enough to fit DB 60X engines, blueprints, engineers and Ger-to-Nip translators through the wormhole allowing Kurt Tank and Takeo Doi to unleash their full autism.
Nips at the time were still extremely eager to reverse engineer western tech whenever they could so gaining access to the treasure trove of engineering that was the 3rd Reich at superluminal speeds would surely be a wet dream to them, with their discipline and a ready supply of senior german engineers it should not have been to difficult to whip up some licensed production in a matter of months.
Zeroes could've been transported with their wings and prop removed and then reassembled by Nips at the other end as was done when transporting aircraft via road or rail.
>Axis pact was much more of a conglomeration of predators rather than an actual alliance so it's way more difficult to conduct joint operations.
They wouldn't have to cooperate that closely during Barbarossa since their respective fronts would still be some 6500+ km apart barring any new Gates opening up, justing turning the Kwantung Army into a fighting force capable of legitimately threatening the Soviet Union's Far East would be enough.
Of course the Waffen SS would try and assemble volunteer legions with random assortments of Han Chinks, Manchus, Koreans and such, but alas.
Curiously enough I wonder what sort of consequences and conflict could sprout from a more heavily industrialized Manchukuo with a strong german industrial presence and a considerable temporary immigration of Japanese engineers and Army officials to the Prussian heartland on the Baltic coast.
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c9be90 No.663062
>>662989
>Thule Gesselschaft employs 'Ancient Aryan Magickaiy (tm)'.
>Nazi arcana combined with cutting edge super-science grants them an advantage for a few days.
>In response to this the UK War Office finally signs off on the proposal from Jaspar Maskelyne.
>Maskelyne summons an endless army of the 'Faire Folke (tm)', points them at Germany.
>Arcane WMDs cause more damage than Arthur Harris ever dared to imagine.
>The European continent becomes the kind of Paranormal barbarian wasteland that would make 40k look optimistic.
>Britloks and Europoors split their time evenly between raising children, studying the hidden truths of reality, exterminating the unnatural beasts their ancestors unleashed, and fighting with each other over the last remaining patches of decent arable land, for ownership of the last healthy and fertile teenage girls, for deposits of metals able to withstand the strain of magic/other resources, and just because those fuckers from the other side of the valley are arseholes who were asking for it.
>To be a man in such times is to be a hero, if you want to live long enough to see puberty.
>America goes so isolationist that it exceeds the bounds of the English language (carpet nukes anything that gets within 100 miles of their borders/territorial waters) and desperately tries to find any kind of magic they can call on, most likely fail as the only tradition they have on hand is from Dem Injuns! and they either refuse to cooperate/are dead.
>Soviets begin massive study of earlier Slavic occultism and abandon Socialism in favour of more wizardry friendly Romuvan tribal social model, as magic is the new nuke.
>The Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere expands and grows (for a while at least) as the Emperor and IJN desperately try to find mundane counters to the weird shit that has entered the world everywhere else (even they are honest that it is a losing battle, particularly when their border forces start to collapse, but Japan refuses to surrender and is prepared to go out in full 'MUH SAMOOREYE HONRAR!' mode).
>Africa returns to being the continent where angels fear to tread, not that this stops a few hundred Brit/Euro explorers every year; around campfires everywhere stories are told of the one band of Voortekkers who made it and are living comfortably on the best farm land on the planet; the names dates and details change with every telling though.
>The last word out of southern and central America suggests they have returned to their blood cult ancestry, rumours of flying feathered serpents have yet to be confirmed by reputable sources (such as they are in this timeline).
>World is Eleventy Bajillion times better off than the shit tier timeline we're expected to live in.
>We will never see such beauty.
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df7030 No.663069
>>663062
>The world never turns into a giant Gensokyo
>ywn perform arcane experiments with the goal of creating the ultimate black magic undead creature summon from Turkroach corpses to counter Anglo-Arab demonspawn encroaching upon your lands
>computers will never contain christian machine spirits communicating with space aliens in 640x480 8-bit color as god intended
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b27c96 No.663073
>>663000
Nice salty trips you got there.
Want some Pretzels on top? We can deliver to Paris within 46 days. 50% off if you order more than 100.000 on 2nd of September or are of royal heritage.
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c9be90 No.663080
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>663069
>It_could_have_been_beautiful.jpg
>It_could_have_been_so_beautiful.png
>Single_restrained_british_tear.webm
Maybe in some other, luckier, timeline our cousins are living that life … maybe we can be happy for them.
out of interest does anyone have the webm for this song?
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70d239 No.663095
>>663062
>>Soviets begin massive study of earlier Slavic occultism and abandon Socialism in favour of more wizardry friendly Romuvan tribal social model, as magic is the new nuke.
But Magic of socialism is one of the most powerful magics that transcends human understanding and allows as if through no effort make people, food, resources, anything really, vanish without a trace.
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c9be90 No.663096
>>663095
Hahaha, fair point. Maybe the 'will of the workers' would make all their propaganda stories come true in that timeline? I'm thinking of Alexey Stakhanov - that one miner who was credited with collecting 102.45 tonnes of coal in five hours.
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70d239 No.663104
>>663096
>Maybe the 'will of the workers' would make all their propaganda stories come true in that timeline
In a Polish series of short stories about a rural exorcist, Lenin's mummy comes back to life because of people chanting that "communism and Lenin live forever" so even the mummy started believing it.
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cf9a39 No.663122
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9ca0d6 No.663179
>>662989
We have a German alt history thread already >>661230
Polite sage
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c9be90 No.663242
>>663104
In that scenario what's stopping them from rolling hordes of indestructible T54s (their armour is their faith in the motherland, comrade) across the rest of the world? The reason I went with the Romuva over the other Slavic faiths was that (from what I remember of that faith) it makes a lot more sense for it to become insular and defensive rather than pushing a global revolution/conversion war.
>>663122
cheers m8
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01ea4a No.663250
>>662989
>silly alt-history scenarios that would be nigh impossible from a physics standpoint but could still be fun to shitpost about for their sheer absurdity
Big stompy WW2 robots.
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cf3f56 No.663251
>Greece signs a peace treaty with Italy
>Greece joins the war on the axis side
>Operation Barbarossa never gets delayed
>Germans and Italians don't need to waste men and supplies on fighting Greece
>German paratroopers are used on the eastern front because the battle of Crete never happened
>Allies can't use Greece as an FOB anymore
>Greek troops are used to keep the soviets away from flanking Stalingrad
>Greek Waffen-SS divisions are created
Even if the war was lost, at least we wouldn't have to be ashamed of siding with the kikes now.
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4810cf No.663254
>>663251
And what would that peace treaty between Greece and Italy contain? Italy wanted to conquer Greece completely, didn't they?
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cf3f56 No.663258
>>663254
>Italy wanted to conquer Greece completely, didn't they?
Not if Hitler becomes aware of it before the pastas can attack. We could send a treaty to both, Hitler would never allow the Italians to screw up when they've been given the option to get another ally
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df7030 No.663278
>>663251
>Greece used as an Axis FOB to ship troops to Vichy Syria pre-Barbarossa
>Bongs expelled from Iraq and Palestine
>Rommel wins at El Alamein
>Anglos cucked out of the Suez
>While Wehrmacht paratroopers overrun Malta Stalin decides to go all out in Iran
>Iran crashes with no survivors, Persians flee to Iraq
>Rommel can't link up with the Troops in Iraq and Syria in time, they get pushed back all the way to Aleppo, Homs and Damascus thanks to Vichy French glownig traitors feeding info to Soviets
>British-Soviet relations deteriorate as Stalin wasn't originally meant to go past Iran, no lend lease as a result
>Brits abandon the mediterranean to avoid further fleet losses to slightly less incompetent Italians under Japanese command, hoping to recapture Gibraltar with American help at some point
>Wehrmacht and USSR forces decide to attack each other in Europe on the same day
>despite being outnumbered 10:1 the Wehrmacht manages to hold their ground while inflicting Finland-tier losses on the attacking Soviets
>Soviet rule in the middle east is pure dogshit, with Muhajideen of various ethnicities assassinating Soviet personnel, Ackbaring convoys and cooperating with german intelligence on a day to day basis
>Soviets respond by flattening entire villages and towns suspected of harboring pro-Axis terrorists
>Images of Soviet warcrimes in every Axis newspaper, Wehrmacht+Waffen SS units in eastern Syria can barely handle the flow of refugees+volunteers
>Despite all the support from local goat herders the Syrian Wehrmacht has nowhere near enough supplies and skilled personnel to hold their defensive line for very long while the Soviets can barely keep their troops properly fed due to the insurgency, hence the mass influx of illiterate reservists to throw at german defenses
>Turkey begins to secretly aid the Soviet Union after catching wind of a terrifying military buildup of Kurdish Waffen SS farm boys on the Syrian border, insurgents in Iraqi Kurdistan catch wind of this right away
>Stalin signs a nonaggression pact with Finland, cedes some territory to keep up the stalemate in the Baltics and western Ukraine at least until American shipments get there via the Transsiberian railway
>Just then, the Nips launch an all out attack on the Russian Far East
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cf3f56 No.663282
>>663278
>Greece in the middle of all the chaos invades Turkey
>After our experience from the previous war we easily roflstomp our way into Ankara
>Metaxas commits turkish genocide because he can and it's funny
A timeline so absurdly perfect, forever lost because the italians wanted war with us
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df7030 No.663291
>>663278
>>663282
>The Nip attack coincides with a large scale diversionary offensive on all western+middle eastern fronts
>The exhausted Soviet defensive lines in Syria crumble like a house of cards, the Wehrmacht marches all the way to Raqqa and Palmyra in the course of a week
>The Wehrmacht offensives in the Ukraine and Lithuania are keeping Stalin too busy to adequately deal with the Japanese threat in the East
>Nips equipped with Type 6 クマ, Type 5 イノシシ tanks and Type 14/88 狸 tankettes armed with experimental ATGMs crash the Soviets with no survivors
>by the time Stalin recieves word the IJN are already conducting landing operations in Vladivostok
>American Lend Lease shipments+the eastern end of the Transsiberian railway captured by Nips
>Stalin completely abandons the middle east to concentrate his forces for a last ditch effort in Europe
>Meanwhile Britbong carrier fleets are sailing along the Indian Ocean with the goal of conducting a UK-US joint landing operation in Brittany upon arriving in Europe
>Burgers surprise attack the Japanese at Iwo Jima, conquer the Island
>Turks decide to take matters into their own hands in Syria, only for a fuckhueg joint volunteer Corps consisting of every Balkan ethnicity under Greek command to crash themselves all over Anatolia with no Roach survivors
>The US-UK landing operation in Brittany is an absymal failure due to newly introduced Me 262s shoahing Allied bomber fleets, with the exhausted British Carrier groups from Asia getting sunk by submarines causing the Americans to fuck off in the hopes Jerries won't notice
>Nip pilots flying A7M9/Ta 164 bury their 20mm mineshells deep in fat Hellcat tats over the Philippines
>Finns on Meth invade Moscow while Soviets get routed.com in the Baltic, Ukraine, Armenia, Mongolia etc.
>Anglos get trashed by V2 spam all over the Island as Stalin commits suicide
>Ireland joins the Axis and invades Bong-held Northern Ireland
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6cd6a1 No.663294
>>663251
Τάγματα Ασφαλείας?
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cf3f56 No.663295
>>663291
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
NEVER EVER
>>663294
>すばらしい!
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24b47d No.663324
>>663309
>*jingoism
The French have their own word for idiots like that. They literally invented it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolas_Chauvin
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1f967b No.663356
>>663301
lol french mod deleted my reply but let this jingo idiot's stand very nice
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df7030 No.663360
>>663291
>The English plead for American assistance but Burgers don't want to get involved in Europe anymore
>Operation Seelöwe commences with 52 divisions
>The bombed out starving British barely put up much of a fight, surrender after the Wehrmacht reaches the outskirts of London after a mere week
>Japan and the US fight themselves into a stalemate at the Hawaiian archipelago
>Nips have the tech advantage with MCLOS AA missiles and better carrier-based aircraft but the deeply entrenched Americans with their superior numbers and tonnage are difficult to remove
>Following Australia and New Zealand's annexation by the US an armistice is signed between Nippon and Burgerland
>Nips control all Hawaiian Islands west of O'ahu, Burgers remain on Moloka'i, Maui and Hawai'i
>Hawaii turns into a pacific wannabe Korea with considerable military buildup on both sides
>Inner Mongolia gets reincorporated into Nationalist China, however Chiang-kai Shek remains deeply distrustful towards the Nipponese Empire and refuses to engage in any sort of diplomatic affairs with them unless at least one german arbitrator is present
>India kicks out Anglos and pretends to be a superpower
>Australia turns into Alaska with Kangaroos
>Russia is divided between the Greater German Reich, the newly christened Byzantine Kingdom and the Empire of Japan
>Ireland is whole again
>Burgers sign an armistice with Germany after some low-key shitflinging in the Atlantic, then start to covertly democratize South America and some former Anglo colonies in Africa after those evil Nahtzees gave the Malvinas back to Argentina without even asking the US for permission >:^(
>Bulgaria, Serbia, Macedonia, Armenia become Byzantine vassals
>by the mid-1950s American voodoo subversion in Africa causes the German Empire to step in and cuck conquered Britain out of the remainder of its colonial empire
>Mosley doesn't care as Germans have been doing a great job administrating Negroes in the DRC
>Rhodesia peacefully declares independence from the former British Empire only to be beset by evil spirits roaming the land
>Rothschild descendants live in luxurious mud huts burning huge stacks of paper money in Talmudic rituals to survive the Madagascarian jungle
>Nips station undercover Magical Girls in Hawaii in order to lure out and exterminate fat old men under the control of American NTR spells
>Germans land on the Moon in 1960
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9aea22 No.663377
>>663373
>pic not related
>im america
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9dbac1 No.663379
>>663301
>1944 to 1994
You really didn't deserve it since you got your ass kicked in the course of a few weeks regardless if that was the fault of some commies' retarded factory generalization plan, the Anglos were just being nice to you and the global consensus remembers you as the occupied not the occupier.
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41cd22 No.663478
>>663356
Because the "Greek" volunteer IS the butthurt boomer muttposter, and BO was being a retarded shitcunt as usual.
Lets just give the power to CONTROL a board to anyone retard who cries loud enough. A larping "genocidal" retard sperg at that.
Nu/k/ deserves to die tbh.
>>663324
Jingoism is worse tbh
>>663301
STFU surrender monkey. Deleted post was right, you are probably not even ethnic French. Ethnic French only got humiliated by half breeds and niggers after Germany's defeat.
>>663373
>*nglo
But I do agree any modern German who is "ashamed" of his ancestors is a cuck deserving to be mocked.
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0bb8ed No.663486
>>663301
>>663373
>Totally-not-turk-roach-spawn said no D&C allowed
>These are still let up
KEK
Nice one, ausman. Fell for the oldest trick in the fucking boom.
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cf3f56 No.663490
>>663486
>albanian LARPing as a German never reports anything
>and yet I am somehow supposed to always know when somebody starts d&c
You fucking retard, others always report your muttposting, but you never report anyone else's.
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cf3f56 No.663491
>>663478
>>663486
There you go shitheads, satisfied yet?
If you want shit gone then like I said since day 1, report it. I don't browse every single thread 24/7.
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0bb8ed No.663492
>>663491
>>663491
>>663490
You totally showed us your compentence as moderator here.
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819593 No.663495
>>663492
>>663486
>>663478
Nice falseflag muttposter.
You even fucking used the same image names.
It's always the same posting style with you, and the sudden 'Dutch' flag that popped up the last month, the moment he stopped using his French flag. All just a coincidence you fucking kike.
The same Dutch flag that damage controlled in the Brentan threads?
Only the muttspammer is crying about the new Greek vol, crying about how it is the end of /k/, because somebody is deleting his spam.
You are also the only one who uses tbh in every second post.
Why aren't you posting under your Israeli flag, you scared that you may forget to hide your flag.
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fa7454 No.663499
>>663495
Nicht Deutsch spreche, Spergkraut
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5355e1 No.663500
>>663495
What spam, fake kraut?
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f6c590 No.663503
>>663062
So, basically Shadowrun, but with less corporations?
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5bcd9f No.663510
>>663495
People don't download files with original filenames in one click here?
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41cd22 No.663511
>>663510
ssshhhh, let the cuck kraut sperg….
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a7ff9f No.663572
>children's crusade actually arrives at Holy Land somehow
>crusaders there make them wait to grow up a bit and train them into killing machines
>"children" free the holy land
>pope goes "Oh God I can't believe this bullshit worked, let's do it again"
>child soldiers become a reality in medieval warfare on a massive scale as countries realise they can make professional armies out of their poor class if they fanaticise them enough
>muslims respond by fitting barrels full of black gunpowder on kids which they are supposed to light on fire when near the enemy
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df7030 No.663576
>>663572
>child crusaders pray for the mediterranean sea to open a road to the Holy Land
>it actually does
>children discover they can awaken god-given magic to defeat their heretic foes
>angels bestow young christian girls with the power to defeat demonkind
>Future crusades are lead by frontline magical girl nuns backed up by divine priests casting thermobaric spells by reading psalms
>Jews try to take over Europe by using Synagogues as Portals to and from Hell
>they are defeated by the power of friendship and chastity
>Muslims get trashed due the Quran's bootleg nature and FGM inhibiting magic potential
>a centuries-long cold war between the Aztecs, Christians and Hindus ensures
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1ffbe5 No.663616
>>663282
Hey m8, I think I found how you'd be as a loli.
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1ba39e No.663656
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9d54e5 No.663689
>>663531
Stop sperging, spergkraut?
Wie erbärmlich. Was versuchst du hier damit?
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1ffbe5 No.663693
>>663656
Pikari-chan wa Nakanaka Shinanai!
It's about a cockroach girl and spider loli pestering a ramen shop cook.
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4befd7 No.663720
>Instead of pissing around with Thallium and Anthrax Rhodesia researches more contagious pathogens like Ebola and the Bubonic plague
>Genetically engineer pathogens into race specific bio weapons
>Rhodesians use superbugs to crash the nog population with no survivors
>Cuban, and Cuban advisors to the negroid communist rebels catch delayed action diseases and bring them back to their home countries
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1ba39e No.663932
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>663693
What does Shinanai means in nippon?
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2f1d7d No.664453
>>663242
I dunno because the stories take place in XXI century eastern Poland most of the time.
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df7030 No.664467
>>663576
>Cold war ends when Jews summon fallen angels
>they blow up Antarctica, half the world's population gets wiped out in a megatsunami
>Fallen Angels open up demonic portals around the world causing additional destruction
>Churches eventually figure out that large concentrations of Jews attract Fallen Angels
>A single Angel is captured in a joint operation between the Eastern Orthodox Churches' ICMM network, Zoroastrian dragonriders and a Hindu Vimana fleet
>The Angel self-destructs after a several hours in captivity according to the official story following the successful extraction and preservation of some tissue
>An international project is launched to grow artificial false Angels in a spiritually reinforced Underground bunker in Japan
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120e1b No.668776
How would the Russian Empire have ended up had they said fuck it in Spring of 1916 and signed an armistice with the Central Powers, allowing the German Empire to regain its footing and defeat the French a year later?
Why didn't they do such a thing IRL?
They lost practically every large battle against German troops in the North and the guys in the South were only barely holding out by virtue of the Austrohungarians being even more incompetent than them, on top of that the Russian economy was going to shit fast owing to an accelerated wartime industrialization paid with excessively printed Fiat so they wouldn't run out of Ammo again and there were Commies everywhere, the other Entente members also didn't do shit aside from asking for Russian suicide attacks or starting a Tard invasion in the Balkans.
Was Ludendorff that scary?
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236095 No.668778
>>668776
the czar was a fucking retard, same reason why he started ww1
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826dd8 No.668780
>>668776
The state of world now can be attributed to bad decisions made by world powers in WW1.
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120e1b No.668792
>>668780
Would there have been a second world war if the Central Powers won?
The German Empire played host to plenty of Jewish bankers and industrialists prior to the war, there also wasn't much in the way of organized anti-semitism until the Treaty of Versailles and all the subsequent kikery leading to the rise of literally Hitler.
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0b5496 No.668800
>>668776
Definitely would be interesting, as they had to wait a year longer for Russia to surrender in OTL. But I don't think it will have much of an effect, unless they somehow manage to keep the USA out of the war as well as winning in the North Sea and stopping the British blockade that crippled the army. If they manage to do both of those things, We could see a German victory in late 1917 or early 1918.
>>668792
France and Britain would be angry as hell, possibly America as well. Even before WWI, the future members of the Entente was bootyblasted that Germany was beating them in population, economically and militarily. The Franco-British stranglehold over Africa would be broken, Germany would try to connect their current colonies together. The French would lose all of Lorraine, and some of Calais to the now German puppet state of Belgium. Monarchies with strong heads of state would be back in fashion, possibly taking hold in South America and African nations, if/when they get independence. It's possible, though I don't think a second Entente could win a WWII, especially if the Russian Civil War ends in a White Victory,which would be at best neutral and at worst a strong German ally.
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826dd8 No.668801
>>668792
Don't think so.
If the brits and ruskies are taken out of the picture or at least settle with a truce, there's gonna be peace in Europe for the next 50 years.
If you think about it, the World War (and Napoleonic war before that) is about the prevention of a strong continental empire (France Empire, 2nd Reich, 3rd Reich).
Modern politics is also about that, considering NATO and EU spares no expenses to cuck continental Europe.
The jew things can go whichever way though, but I doubt Israel would exist without the brits/USA's winning of WW2.
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bb695d No.668835
>>662989
ALTERNATIVE HISTORY HUB PRESENTS: WHAT IF THE HOLOCAUST HAPPENED?
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41b566 No.668846
The kind of history you learn in school is basically alternate history, it's garbage fiction dredged up in the 20th century by retards who thought the shape of your hair could determine if you're good or evil.
Watch these:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFlAFo78xoQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDejwCGdUV8
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087dd2 No.668852
>>668846
Phrenology was phased out because jews grew in power and wanted to erase the (((completely coincidental connection))) between hooked nose, beady eyes, curly hair, sickly facial hair and usury, untrustworthiness, deceit and malice
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b9a839 No.668864
>>668801
>>668800
>Mfw no Prusso-Tsarist post-great war Alliance culminating in the defeat+dissolution of the Sino-Chinese-American Entente leading to the events oft Jin Roh
Why is life so unfair.
Then again Pissrael could still exist if (((they))) manage to erect a second Hollywood in mainland Europe broadcasting Propaganda about colonial Anglo concentration camps+Burger proxy snackbar war crimes, the Balkans also would still have turned to shit at one point or another given the precarious prewar state of Austro-hungary.
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120e1b No.668879
>>668835
If the Hollercoast happened the Morgenthau plan would've come into effect and Fusion power would be the world's prime energy source thanks to german wartime advances in Oven&Furnace technology.
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cf3f56 No.668880
>>668835
It would have to happen again
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41b566 No.668899
>>668852
Phrenology is the study of skull shape which is legitimate because skull shape is determined by genetics and is highly determinant on intelligence. I'm not talking about that. Look at some older 1920s-1960s magazines, they thought being left handed made you evil, having prominent ears made you lecherous and things like that. It's fucking stupidity and most of it is ingrained in scientific institutions to this day - destruction of phrenology is actually one of them.
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658dc8 No.668905
>The Montana class battleships are built
>they survive to be modernized in the 80s
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3e5c35 No.669356
>be the Imperial Navy's latest and most advanced carrier
>can't detect sub taking ideal positioning and firing a salvo of 6 torps
>get sunk by a single torpedo because shitty ventilation made flooding partitioning measures literally non-viable for the crew
>could not even reverse engineer bofor guns properly leaving them with 1/3rd their original range
Could the nips win the pacific war if their manufacturing weren't chink-tier back then?
Also, other than anti-ZOG pride points, was there any point for Japan in not negotiating a cease-fire after Berlin fell?
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3e5c35 No.669357
>>668899
>having (((prominent ears))) made you lecherous
That's actually the case.
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e8431d No.669361
>>669356
No, not really. They didn't have the resources and their electronics were fucking trash. They lacked radar systems and proper hydrophones. If this guy is to be believed that is.
>>668776
>Why didn't they do such a thing IRL?
Because Russia is closest equivalent to Warhammer 40k universe we have. That nation sort of works in a similar manner to the imperium of man, as any major war is sort of a religious experience with it's own saints, miracles and what not. So, I suppose that russian leadership was just kinda hoping that things would work out eventually, as admitting defeat would have been borderline disastrous, as that would have implied that they, protectors of slavs and orthodox christianity, were not blessed by God, or weren't faithful enough to carry the burden of being protector of christianity and slavism.
Would have been interesting to see what kind of peaceful solution could have been found for the russo-austro-hungarian issue though.
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cb36d2 No.669366
>>669361
Quiet honestly we should had just give up Galicia and let the Russians pester around with the Poles and Ukrainians in exchange of them fucking off in our issues with the rest of the Slavs.
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7f3a72 No.669371
>>669366
Do you have a plan for the return of Translyvania (Erdely) to Hungary? Like which counties would you claim and how would you do a population transfer? I can't see a way to do it without it either being a non contiguous exclave (which is shit), having a huge and difficult to defend border, causing a shit show with Serbia and other nations that might be obligated to intervene (unless you de-recognized Kosovo or got the Romanians to do something dumb enough to burn their bridges with the Serbs). And how do you get it to be permanent and recognized when you're in NATO and the EU?
Genuinely interested in what a Hungarian thinks.
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e07f2b No.669390
>>669361
>They lacked radar systems and proper hydrophones.
Even if the Taiho had proper Radar equipment and ventilation systems it still wouldn't have amounted to much with air wings consisting of Zeroes, Kates and Vals instead of A7Ms and B7As.
Would've been really interesting if they could've cooperated with German war industry like the Italians did, that way the Ki-61 might not have struggled so much with maintenance issues.
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38768d No.669540
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8756ae No.669829
How would the Syrian civil war have progressed had the 2016 glownigger coup attempt in occupied Byzantium succeeded and Erdogan been thrown out of his plane?
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984d4e No.669831
>>669829
I'm a believer that the "coup" was a hoax.
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8756ae No.669838
>>669831
It's possible, but given how hard Erdogan's policies were threatening to crash US policies in Syria with no survivors it's also not impossible for the Obama administration at the time to consider removing him and installing a new democratic puppet ruler in the spirit of the Arab spring or some shit.
Ever since that failed coup US-Turkey relations have deteriorated to the brink of collapse, with Roaches now buying S-400s and being buddy buddy with evil Putin instead of projecting Democracy under the goyse of NATO.
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3e1bb2 No.669843
>>669371
It's like you don't even know how it works in this clown world of ours. Normally we'd just have to take back the lands that are ours and expell those goat herders. But since ww2 the way to go is to finance guerrillas and tell them to make a state of their own that nobody recognizes. Then either drag out the conflict or win it very quickly, the point is to sow a lot of confusion, because in that general aura of uncertainity most people either freeze and do nothing, or flee. And an active minority will do risky things, therefore they will be visible and you can get rid of them. Basically look at how the jews made Israel real, and then how they de facto annexed territories around that joke of a country. Of course for us to do something similar we'd need an autocracy, a strong army, and at least some tactical nukes.
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4810cf No.669851
>>669843
This. Just throw a large amount of money and weapons on the Székelys and they will make their own nation. When the rebellion brokes out, just attack Romania under the cassus belli of "evil Romanians oppressing Hungarian minority" and we are good to go. And above the autocracy, a strong army and the tactical nukes, we'd need the protective hands of the US taken off of Romania, as we are both members of NATO.
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3e1bb2 No.669858
>>669843
I've just noticed that I wrote autocracy instead of autarky. Whatever, we would need both those anyway. Basically we'd have to be a non-communist Best Korea.
>>669851
If we had nukes, then we wouldn't really have to worry about murka. They can't even bother themselves to do something with North Korea, do you think they'd want us to nuke a major European city?
>inb4 LARPing
I know that this is nothing more than LARPing, but that's all we can do in out current situation.
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0a7a55 No.669862
>>669858
Of course we need autocracy. Both the communist constitution of 1948 and the democratic constitution of 2012 are illegitimate. We need to return to the constitutional monarchy and elect a king. But who would be our king?
>autarky
Nobrainer. The fact that we are importing food and generally goods of any kind that we can produce and manufacture here always baffled me.
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680241 No.669911
>>669862
>But who would be our king?
Should have 140 IQ and be able to beat all other candidates in any form of hand to hand combat, preferrably by suplexing them.
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1e880f No.670022
>ywn never have an autistic warrior king genius overthrowning the government, executing all the oligarchs and career politicians, genociding the gipsies and the jews, restoring the monarchy and a neo-feudal society based on faith, honor and blood
Why even live?
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cf3f56 No.670038
>>670022
You can be your own Fyodorovich von Ungern-Sternberg anon!
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daec42 No.670045
>>670022
>Why even live?
To become one.
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1e880f No.670073
>>670038
>>670045
You know that it's not that easy. You need to be a devout religious person, an expert and experienced high-ranking military officer, a monarchist AND you need to be in the right place at the right time with elligible support of the population. Don't have any of this, and you won't be the next king of your country.
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daec42 No.670076
>>670073
You better start working on it then.
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b72bb0 No.670132
>Chicoms come over the korean border during the war
>Douglas Macarthur atom bombs the yellow fucks on day 1
>Atomic weapons never get a chance to be put on a special pedestal and so are just an accepted part of warfare from the 50s onwards
>This also spills over to civilian life with atomic explosives used for making harbours, canals, etc.
>Yanks atom bombing the North Vietnamese to bring them to the table
>Soviets nuccing the afghans in the 80s
>Nuclear proliferation is de-jour
ye boi
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8756ae No.670141
>>670132
A shame Hitler never got the bomb first and fired several nuclear V2 salvos on Soviet and Anglo positions.
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355168 No.671052
To what extent would a massed Kwantung Army Banzai charge in the Soviet Far East sometime in Fall of 1941 have hindered logistics in Western Russia?
Would it have eased pressure on the Wehrmacht enough for them to capture Moscow or would Nips just get themselves shrekt with no survivors like in 1945?
Would capturing Moscow have changed anything in the long term?
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8f11ff No.677988
>>669371
>Alternate history
Gott erhalte unser Kaiser und Király, Otto.
The Empire rises. We are growing stronger under His benevolent rule.
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a2b658 No.677989
>>677988
>Habsburgs flooded our countries with multiple ethnicities of different religion, culture and language, agitated them against us (and eventually against themselfes), held the industrial and technological advancement of out country back, failed to either federalise or homogenise their realm and lead their empire into a war they couldn't win
>"two times the charm"
But then I read its alternative history.
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d1ec76 No.677991
>>677988
Say no to empires and colonialism anon.
Look at britain and france today, hitler warned them what the logical conclusion was 100 years ago, and he was right, england and france now flooded by africans, pakistanis, and hindus.
At the very least genocide the conquered peoples to a zoo-level minimum for preservation purposes if you must, I guess.
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cf947e No.678047
>Be American national socialist
>go back in time and deliver thousands of M4's and F-35's to Hitler
>they lose even harder
It's funny because everything's fucked and it's all our fault.
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1e67a8 No.678058
>>678047
>Delivering f35 and (((5.56)))
Yeah more some jewtin globohomo agent.
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4a9b27 No.678128
>>678047
>Alt-kike Anon goes back in time and delivers an F-35 to Hitler at the time of France's surrender
>German aero engineers disassemble and analyze it
>through sheer force of autism they actually manage to derive working prototype tech out of its individual components
>Allied bombers intercepted by swarms of carrier-launched Jet-powered picrels in early 1943, RAF pilots stunned into gradually losing air supremacy over the channel
>Ho 229 night fighters outfitted with primitive AESA radars further deprive the western Allies of their aerial foothold over the European mainland in fall of 1943
>By Fall of 1944 allied surface fleets get demolished so hard by TV-equipped Fritz X bombs the Salo republic accidentally retakes all of the Italian mainland, Spain joins the war effort on the Axis side and Moscow is a smoldering ruin following 6 million V-1 strikes
>By Summer of 1945 the Mediterranean is closed off to all Allied shipping, the Royal Navy is about as capable of the IOTL IJN of the same time period and german aircraft carriers are raiding American convoys in the Atlantic with near impunity following the introduction of the vertically-launched Hs 137B semi-autonomous heatseeking surface to air missile to german cruiser escorts, with the USN barely holding on through superior numbers and suicidal submarine raids, any lend-lease efforts long having been shelved
>Soviet Union disintegrates in December of that year with the disappearance of Stalin, an Iranian popular uprising and unsustainable Soviet losses to german ATGM teams, guided precision rocket artillery and ballistic missiles
>Britain surrenders in early 1946 just as Unternehmen Lindwurm lands its first ships on British shores, but then the Americans stage a massive Operation Downfall-tier landing in Ireland and Scotland
>Burgers capture ground but lose some 40% of their vessels in the first two weeks of combat, they deploy tactical nukes twice but by that point germans have gotten close enough to no longer be reliant on long-range prop driven bombers to deliver their payloads
>USN fleet losses approach 70% as Jet-powered schnellbomber destroy harbor infrastructure, with the Kriegsmarine and Hellenic navy massacring burger supply convoys
>Meanwhile Nippon barely managed to avoid the loss of the northern Mariana Islands in summer of 1944, what with more and more allied warships being transferred to the Atlantic
>The Pacific war cools down considerably with both sides being too exhausted to risk any large offensives
>then China dies along with the Soviet Union, considerably advancing the Nips' plan to capture Pearl Harbor in a decisive battle
>British colonies such as Australia declaring independence and opting for neutrality following the Anglo surrender also helped
>Back in Europe germans begin to re-greenlight various shelved military meme projects for the luls, with Allies no longer having the capabilities to interrupt their sessions
>germans perform airshows with random assortments of memeplanes over Burger-occupied parts of Ireland so as to motivate the American military to surrender or at least fuck off in the face of overwhelming autism
>USN fleet losses at 97%, American soldiers stuck on Ireland bringing freedom and democracy to Irish women until the germans, Italians, Greeks, Spanish, Poles, Cossacks, Serbs and whoever else is currently making up the Waffen SS arrives
>Amerika bombers flying over NYC crash US war propaganda with no survivors
>Eisenhower's repeated refusals to accept any and all Axis peace proposals culminate in a violent uprising against freedom and democracy, just as the Japanese capture Pearl Harbor
>American interim government signs peace agreement with the Axis powers in January of 1947, bringing the war to a close as the first Haunebu flying disk reaches low earth Orbit
It'd be a fun timeline.
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368419 No.678152
>>677991
That ignores the people within our own nations that allowed it to happen. It's not like people didn't ensure we found ourselves in this state of affairs.
https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2015/07/12/jews-the-ss-empire-windrush-and-the-origins-of-multicultural-britain/
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b2606d No.678166
>>678128
Not even German autism can make the F-35 work. You can't beat physics.
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4a9b27 No.678177
>>678166
>You can't beat physics.
You can make the F-35 work if you take one apart and construct 3 planes out of it or just reverse engineer the workings behind its individual components for mass producing DIY versions of said components with 1940s technology.
If you could time travel to 1939-1940 and bring along a single item of CY+4 tech to Hitler what would it be?
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da016d No.678178
>>678177
Pretty much any modern day slav stuff.
Imagine the RAF getting torn apart by modern day Russian anti-air.
Maybe an Oniks turning the Royal Navy or US Navy to scrap?
How about a BM-30 loaded up with thermobaric rockets to really cook stuff up?
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e8431d No.678200
>>678177
Oh jesus, that's a difficult one.
Blueprints for T-64 or T-55? G3? AK47? Some fucking useful radar they couldn't even produce? MIG-17? Or better yet, some bluprint for some useful industrial machine that germans didn't have for some reason?
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4a9b27 No.678217
>>678178
60s to early 1970s tech would make the most sense as those still heavily relied on analog electronics and vacuum tube tech which german computer pioneers should have little trouble with, they do need to mass produce several hundred if not thousands of SAMs if they want to stave off Allied air attacks after all.
Personally I'm torn between an early heatseeking missile, early wire guided ATGMs or a book describing the technical principles behind late 1950s/early 1960s fire control radars.
Would be interesting to see how the Soviets would perform in Stalingrad with germans suddenly mounting primitive ATGMs on top of Tigers and/or near stationary anti-tank guns.
That same ATGM tech could then be adopted for anti-air and air to air purposes, SAMs would be possible even without proper radars if the missile was steered to its target manually with the operator engaging the heatseeker at close distance.
Actually scratch that, handing them the technical docs from the Manhattan project should be more than enough to change the outcome of the war.
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4edc7d No.678218
>>678217
The germans can beat the Soviet with their existing equipment.
What matters is their overall strategy.
Urban siege are shit and you should avoid that at all cost.
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7930ba No.678219
>>678218
>Nukes.
Why avoid an urban siege when you can just get rid of the urban bit?
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4edc7d No.678229
>>678219
Germans didn't have nukes in WW2 nor capacity to deliver it.
What germans could do is encirclement, poison the water and prevent the enemy inside the city from getting supplied.
Speed is the essence of warfare, Germans have great access in open terrain combat due to their superior range, accuracy and tactics. All that is lost in a urban siege of attrition.
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4395fc No.678268
>>678229
>Germans didn't have nukes in WW2 nor capacity to deliver it.
Nuremberg Trials claim otherwise. They just used their miniature nukes to desintegrate jews on the spot. (IMG Volume XVI, p. 529)
……
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4edc7d No.678270
>>678268
LOL if only the germans could those mini-nukes to shell Stalingrad.
Those pesky "anti-semites".
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31116a No.678277
>>678229
>What germans could do is encirclement, poison the water and prevent the enemy inside the city from getting supplied.
They tried encirclement at Leningrad and ultimately did not succeed.
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bef0e6 No.678286
>>678229
>>678229
>poison the water
>the water
>THE water
This is a major problem with english I have noticed ever since starting duolingo. Most other languages dont have a designation for a singular concept, but in English this singular concept is used as part of common parlance. This causes people to THINK in a completely different way, as if the universe was built of several large and easily understandable blocks rather than an infinity of tiny quanta. Blake wrote best about the Bri'ish tendency to see a morass of problems as one solvable block, and the tendency to think in terms of metaphors. This kind of thinking leads tou to make stupid mistakes, but you do tend to think that youre all knowing which eliminates doubt and instills confidence. Although people fall to believing all kinds of nonsense because they extrapolate from THE.
To see a World in a Grain of Sand
And a Heaven in a Wild Flower,
Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand
And Eternity in an hour.
A Robin Redbreast in a Cage
Puts all Heaven in a Rage.
A dove house fill’d with doves and pigeons
Shudders Hell thro’ all its regions.
A Dog starv’d at his Master’s Gate
Predicts the ruin of the State.
A Horse misus’d upon the Road
Calls to Heaven for Human blood.
Each outcry of the hunted Hare
A fiber from the Brain does tear.
He who shall train the Horse to War
Shall never pass the Polar Bar.
The Beggar’s Dog and Widow’s Cat,
Feed them and thou wilt grow fat.
The Gnat that sings his Summer song
Poison gets from Slander’s tongue.
The poison of the Snake and Newt
Is the sweat of Envy’s Foot.
A truth that’s told with bad intent
Beats all the Lies you can invent.
It is right it should be so;
Man was made for Joy and Woe;
And when this we rightly know
Thro’ the World we safely go.
TL;DR There is no "the water" in something the size of a city. There are multiple rivers or streams, hundreds of canals branching off them, about 10000 artesian wells dug into aquifers which are seperate….. USSR did some of this by throwing bitterants (shit taste) chemicals into wells in Afghanistan, and it took motorized companies of people even with tiny a-stan villages with a dozen or so wells in a nation that has no real abundance of water. It would be impossible to do it from OUTSIDE a city.
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6f0f24 No.678728
I would have much rather given them all US military technology that of the mid to late 50s.
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146f71 No.678777
>>663062
Pretty dank my man, i'm gonna have to save this to my idea folder, i will credit you if i use this publicly for anything.
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0b5496 No.678782
>>677989
>held the industrial and technological advancement of out country back
Industry was growing, railroad networks were expanding and between 1870 and 1913 per capita GNP in Austria-Hungary actually grew at a slightly higher rate than in Britain, France or Germany. The Austrian Empire was more developed than other areas but the Kingdom of Hungary, before World War I, was a major source of food exports to the rest of Europe and had a thriving agricultural industry.
Don't trust modern historians.
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0b5496 No.678783
>>678217
>spoiler
Where would they get the material for a nuke from?
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146f71 No.678801
>>663095
Bolshevist jews use jewish magic to turn 100 million russian slavs into undead golems, great but they keep dying and not procreating so they have to raid all the lands to south of them for slaves.
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0d7493 No.678819
>>663062
>>Africa returns to being the continent where angels fear to tread, not that this stops a few hundred Brit/Euro explorers every year; around campfires everywhere stories are told of the one band of Voortekkers who made it and are living comfortably on the best farm land on the planet; the names dates and details change with every telling though.
Prester John?
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6bfc2a No.684942
imagine if we got a time machine and introduced marxism to the roman empire, any time it would be really intresting
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000497 No.684951
>Zangara hits
>Garner is president
>without New Deal and Agricultural Adjustment Act America recovers early
>Garner isn't trying to drag America into war, there's no embargo or lend lease
>Japan conquers most of Asia, except for American holdings
>without American resources and technology Soviets fall but it's a pyrrhic victory for Germany since they have no way to hold the land with their losses
>Germany collapses from overextending itself and not having the resources to hold its conquest
Fast forward to 1962
>Europe is now mix of collapsed governments and isolated neutral countries, Finland and a diminished France (Free France walked and took Paris back with minimal resistance in after the collapse)
>now lawless wasteland that's host to countless wars by pop-up warlords
>many are likely puppets and proxy governments to Japan, the US or (less likely) a great Britain/France trying to rebuild its empire
Does this sound like a fun and believable setting?
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3dadeb No.684958
>>684951
Can't be fun and believable without the Axis.
Seriously, Germany isn't going to "break up" in 10 years if it wins WW2, that's serious bullshit.
There might be some scuffles between the germans and italian over dividing the spoils but that's it.
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8dbb9f No.684969
>>684951
>Germany collapsing after removing Sovietistan
Why?
They'd probably have less of a partisan/warlord problem than Siberia and the Russian far eastern steppes would unless they decide to gas the entire ethnic Russian population for muh lebensraum.
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8dbb9f No.685010
What if a CY+4 corvette-sized or bigger US Navy warship with an ethnically and sexually diverse crew were to accidentally time travel to the Battle of Midway?
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7a9dd5 No.685039
>>685010
They'd attack the US Navy for being evil segregated racists before finding an oil tanker to crash into.
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000497 No.685040
>>684969
>>684958
The British couldn't control their empire after the men they lost even though they won, and they didn't get in nearly as much a meat grinder as the eastern front.
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7a9dd5 No.685042
>>685040
We couldn't control it because you and the Soviets kept creating communist revolutions in all of the colonies every five seconds.
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2a229b No.685043
>>685010
It'd probably cause a big friendly fire incident creating more damage at once that the Kriegsmarine could even dream of, then it'd turtle and sink with no survivors because mp4 related.
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ab8911 No.685046
>>685042
>picture related
>abloobloo murrica
I mean you absolutely fucked all your third world holdings willingly.
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94c08a No.685063
>>685040
The british empire failed after two fucking centuries at its peak, and after TWO fucking world wars.
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000497 No.685097
>>685063
Yeah, Germany totally wasn't involved in that other one… There's also the leadership struggles in the high command in Germany.
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94c08a No.685100
>>685097
Yeah, and Germany lost. The leadership struggle would be settled by Hitler in case Germany ends the war in a more favorable note.
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8dbb9f No.685157
>>685039
>US Navy suffers crippling losses trying to stop a mystery superwarship from going after their fleet oilers and merchant ships
>the warship eventually sinks itself by ramming a lone oiler after annihilating yet another carrier division, surviving crew is captured and interned
>the crewmembers are so hideous in appearance, behaviour and being that continued exposure to personnel causes said personnel to question the virtues of Democracy, Judaism and FDR's policies
>They are put into some glownig dungeon following various Manhattan project materials being "leaked" to german intelligence by men who had previously served as interrogators and/or prison guards for the mystery ship crew
>This only makes the situation worse as even the most hardened glow in the dark begins to question the US' ultimate goals of the war after watching XO Markize O'Donnell dilate day after day in >her cell Jewish CIA members on the other hand start to secretly jack off and neglect their duties upon such a sight
>Japan captures Midway and Guadalcanal, the battle of the Atlantic drags on and the Afrikakorps is getting dangerously close to Alexandria all thanks to the Royal Navy having to split their forces to make up for USN losses in the Pacific
>Wehrmacht still gets fucked in Stalingrad, but then Nips bully China into surrender and invade the Soviet Union stabilizing the eastern front somewhat
>Nips capture Vladivostok before Soviets redeploy troops to the east in numbers, the IJA gets pushed back hard only for Germans to take advantage of the temporary reduction of Soviet numbers to go all out in Kursk
>By this point the Suez canal is in german hands as the fire rises across the middle east from various anti-semitic Arab uprisings
>Turkey secretly annulls their nonaggression pact with the Soviet Union and allows german troops to pass through their territory for fear of getting Greece'd
>Nips mess up in Burma but their losses are manageable thanks to their merchant fleet being in better shape
>Burgers are starting to push back while Anglos slowly falter and withdraw, what with the loss of the Mediterranean and their convoys still getting regularly attacked by Axis subs
>The exhausted Wehrmacht makes another mad dash for the Caucasus following their hard-fought victory at Kursk, hoping that untested theoretical Wunderwaffen will fix it
>Second battle of Stalingrad ends in 5 seconds thanks to a V2 nuclear strike
>The loss.jpg of six gorillion Soviet troops deployed to Stalingrad from all over the Caucasus combined with a small number of Rommel's troops crossing the weakly guarded Turkish-Soviet border sends the entire Soviet western front into complete disarray
>Chains of command collapse as NKVD officers compete in who can execute more unpatriotic reactionary traitors responsible for this filthy defeat, deployment orders are fudged and/or disappear, Partisan uprisings and purges everywhere with Cities simply surrendering to advancing germans for fear of getting nuked
>Allies finally manage to neutralize the Axis U-boat threat in the Atlantic, Anglostan is more or less dependent on the US Navy for survival as its fleets are scattered and depleted
>News of the German capture of Baku and their unchecked advance towards Moscow complete with Finland capturing all of its rightful clay send Burger high command into a frenzy, they nuke Paris out of nowhere
>US foreign relations crash with no survivors as Free French forces turn traitor and join up with the Afrikalegion, Spain+Portugal join the Axis and various Anglo colonies declare independence and make peace with the Axis powers
>Half of South America breaks off relations with the US and writes applications to join the Axis, complete with trade embargoes on the US through what little naval prowess South American countries can muster
>before the US can redirect its attention to yet another god damn front FDR is assassinated by an Ultranationalist ethno-Patriot faction within the CIA
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072637 No.685185
>>685042
Uh you created yhe bolshevik revolution and funded the slaughter of the Romanov family.
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1f95e2 No.685195
>The Library of Alexandria manages to avoid the fires from burning Julius Caesar's military vessels reaching them and destroying 40,000 scrolls
>Library continues to see some level of support from the Roman government instead of being burned to the ground because they didn't lose their works
>Manages long enough to make it to the same era as its sister library; the Serapeum
>Alexandria becomes known as a city of scholars and a renaissance of the spreading of information and scholarly pursuits follows shortly after
>Neither library is burned down
>Knowledge is being continuously stolen lost
>Neo-platonists come to an agreement with the Rhodes school and the Hellenists to come up with a working printing press to more easily distribute the knowledge previously held by papyrus scrolls
>The Caesareum and the Claudianum in Alexandria aren't forced to borrow scrolls from the library because of this printing technology, and information is quickly disseminated among the masses
>In fact these three libraries join together to form a triumvirate to protect knowledge
>This quick spreading of information due to the printing press innovations gives the lords of Europe reason to make all tradesmen literate
>Literacy rate of the western world gets into the double digits once more
>During the Palmyrene rebellion and Diocletian's siege, the library's strong connections and mass spreading of texts means that even if the library WERE burned to the ground, very little knowledge was lost to the events
>This gives the Neoplatonists enough power to continue their existence and keeps Pope Theophilus of Alexandria from taking action against them
>Even if the pope burns down the Serapeum, not too much is lost
>Due to the Neo-platonists never truly being subdued due to their political influence over Alexandria, Hypatia is never murdered in the streets and thus an heir to the library is born, continuing its lineage of collecting knowledge
>Due to military advances pushed by many of the students and scholars who came to the library or its various schools, Alexandria manages to hold out against the Muslim hordes long enough for the library to be evacuated and disseminated to various corners of the world, including knowledge of mass production
>Mass production of bibles means monks have enough time to pursue their more scholarly intents in conjunction with their religious chores, namely book-making
>Because of this and the expansion of technology, protestantism in Germany and other European nations fails to take off
>The Catholic church sees this as reason enough to spread literacy in order to spread their influence so as to keep other protestant groups from forming
>Maintaining their grip, things like the Spanish Inquisition, a result of secular rulers ignoring the church, never happens
>While the consolidation of power in Catholicism isn't the best result for history, it serves to keep various civil wars from sprouting up over all of Europe
>The Catholic church eventually helps the Eastern Orthodox church drive back the Golden Horde in Russia
>The two reconcile their differences and decide to put the Catholic sacking of their holy capitals behind them
>A combined one church following the Ecumenical council sees prosperity across Europe and the quick spreading of information both in civilian life and in military matters
>Steampunk becomes real
>Man's alchemy (chemistry) grows and evolves enough to produce hydrogen gas en masse
>Industrialization by the end of the 16th century
>Space flight by the middle of the 17th century
>In 20XX, man has colonized most of the known solar system under the holy empire of Earth's banner
>God's grace is felt across the galaxy by the end of the millennium
>Furries, feminists, and degenerates never exist because the Jews were unable to manipulate both the Christians and the Muslims in the various crusades to maintain/justify their existence leading to their genocide at the hands of the church
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3b0e7c No.685199
>>685195
This is your brain on linear history.
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1f95e2 No.685203
>>685199
I can't truly imagine what society would be like because I know better when seeing what previous generations thought the future would hold versus what it does, but I like to think mankind would be much better off if the library hadn't lost those scrolls when the city was burned to the ground in opposition to Caesar.
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1f95e2 No.685204
>>685199
>>685203
Also cyclical history is a shit. Decline and rebirth happen, but they are irrelevant to the passing of time so long as man pushes forward.
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1f95e2 No.685205
>>678177
>If you could time travel to 1939-1940 and bring along a single item of CY+4 tech to Hitler what would it be?
The transistor. It would have revolutionized the way Germans produce electronics leading to much less bulky equipment and much more accurate bombing/artillery triangulation.It would allow the Nazis to last long enough that I could watch them collapse from their economic policy instead of from the war so /pol/fags wouldn't be able to LARP that they were some great nation when they were really tearing apart at the seams due to their spending habits and the fact that WWII actually managed to keep them glued together longer than they would have lasted otherwise under their fiscal policy that mimics that of Venezuela.
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1f95e2 No.685206
>>663572
You know you generally have to feed soldiers and it took several peasants to keep a single soldier fed and operational, right? Those countries would need advances in agricultural techniques in order to feed an army of child soldiers.
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4edc7d No.685250
>>663572
The children's crusade was a massive scam, it benefits the merchants who fund it and all the children become sex slaves afterwards.
It's literally stupid SJW shit, Medieval edition.
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615654 No.685257
>>685250
Imagine traveling to a desert shithole hundreds of miles away from your village because you fell for some stupid kid's fantasies, losing friends and family to exposure along the way, just to get to the desert fully expecting god to help you with whatever the fuck you were trying to accomplish, only to wind up getting castrated and fucked in the ass until you get tossed into the dusty streets because your owner found a younger child, or wind up beaten and tortured into becoming a child soldier and dying horribly in the name of some desert nigger you actively opposed.
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921389 No.685281
>>685205
Bold words for someone who's socioeconmic mode has worked for less time than communism.
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921389 No.685282
>>685250
>>685257
This sounds extremely judaic. Other than common sense do we have any historical evidence that kikes were behind it?
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4edc7d No.685290
>>685282
Just read Wikipedia, muh (((merchants of Venice))).
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32a7b9 No.685325
>>685282
>>685290
Yeah there's a historical reason kikes are also referred to as merchants.
Even way back at the Roman empire's height merchants were disproportionately jewish.
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32a7b9 No.685327
Also
>using (((wikipedia))) as a source
Gyro just look up merchants of Venice in general and you'll find loads of articles about how slimy they could be.
Wikipedia cherrypicks sources to avoid "racism"
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4edc7d No.685386
>>685327
Jewish crimes are so easy to see that Wikipedia can't even hide it.
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8b2c2a No.685397
>>685386
It's still retarded to use it as a source and you only have yourself to blame if people on this site ridicule and ignore you for it.
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4edc7d No.685398
>>685397
Fine, fine.
Wikipedia is not a source itself, but it's where they store the citations in a neat place where you can check.
Any claims without citations (or with biased citations) can be quickly dismissed.
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4e973e No.685678
>>684942
> marxism to the roman empire
> marxism
Why wouldn't you just "invent" gunpowder for them, and point them in the direction of the American continent?
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8dbb9f No.685686
>>685678
Why not just time travel to 628 A.D, invent and sell gunpowder+steam engines to the Byzantine+Persian Empires while telling them to stop being gay for each other and amass forces on their southern borders against the coming mudslime assault?
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2a229b No.685712
>>685686
Why not travel far back and provide a final solution to the pharisee question?
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2b689d No.685715
What if the Italian offensive in North Africa was a success and they captured Egypt and the Suez without German assistance?
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921389 No.685731
>>685686
>stopping bulli the Persians for whatever reason
Even utterly genociding the roaches would not worth it.
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8dbb9f No.685732
>>685715
The UK would no longer be ably to efficiently send and recieve materiel from its Asian colonies, Italian subs could try their hand at submarine raids in the Indian Ocean and if Pastaniggers don't mess up and manage to capture Iraq Anglos would also lose a major source of oil and become a gay puppet of the US if they weren't already.
With the Royal Navy looking decidedly less threatening Franco may choose to cuck the UK out of all its mediterranean assets by closing off Gibraltar, making the Kriegsmarine feel slightly less insecure about its tonnage.
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2b689d No.685761
>>685732
Would having control over the ME help with Barbarossa? In theory you could try to bully the turks in to letting you move through their land to hit Baku and its oil fields.
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0d7493 No.685797
>>685731
Just go back to bullying each other once Islam is completely quashed.
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ebe1b5 No.685809
>>685398
>>685386
>>685397
Wikipedia is such a giant steaming pile of shart, it makes other tertiary sources look good.
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052e56 No.685820
>>685712
Why not go back in time and give neanderthals a bunch of loaded hi points?
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921389 No.685857
>>685797
>not bullying them while we both smash Islam
<took you a whole week to remove 50 average-sized villages of kebab? how pathetic onii-fam
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8dbb9f No.685885
>>685761
Germany wouldn't need to expend ever-needed resources on some faraway desert clusterfuck without getting anything in return, one of the reasons Stalingrad went as badly for the Wehrmacht as it did was the Luftwaffe not having enough transport aircraft to properly supply both Stalingrad and El Alamein.
Having control of the mediterranean on the other hand would create a fuckhueg safe haven for both Italian and German Industries and Navies, they could build all the aircraft carriers they'd want and ship all the oil and metal from NA and the middle east to their home industry with the biggest threat being the occasional raid from an allied sub that managed to slip through the Gibraltar strait.
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2e9a56 No.687127
>>662989
>1918
>Kolchak returns to Russia and manages to not be socially awkward for a few meetings and he manages to get the Western powers to support the White army, he’s still depressed and manic (he wouldn’t be Kolchak otherwise)
>Alexander Kerensky doesn’t escape and gets shot by the Bolsheviks
>The Royal family flees to Vladivostok before they can be captured by the Bolsheviks
>Kornilov is picks a different barn
>The spring offensive of the Russian Army is supported by America and England with Greece aiding Russian forces in the South
>Kolchak somehow gets Germany to aid the White army
>The spring offensive is a success for the White army with the Red army not being able to set up a counter offensive on its southern flank
>The advance on Moscow is a success ending with the siege and capitulation of Moscow somewhere between November of 1919 or January of 1920
>The siege of Moscow ends up being the most brutal battle during the Russian civil war, it would be comparable to the battle of Stalingrad
>The Winter offensive of 1920 lasts into October of 1920 and around Christmas, Petrograd fell to the White army
>Key Bolshevik leaders like Lenin and Stalin were executed and Trotsky would escape to Poland
>Communism is pushed out of Russia and grows in Central Europe
>Green Ukraine exists in what is now the jewish Autonomous Oblast
>Nicolas II returns to the throne with Alexander Kolchak becoming President of Russia
>Russia becomes a constitutional monarchy and the Russian people would democratically elect Boris Savinkov as Vice President
>Baron Von underneath Sternburg becomes the king of Mongolia and Manchuria
>With the civil war over turkey wouldn’t try to take Greek territories
>Becuase the Tsar remained in power Russia continues advancing and becomes one of the most advanced countries in Europe
>in 1926 after mostly rebuilding the destroyed cities Supreme Leader Kolchak with full support form Tsar Nicholas II would launch a military campaign to retake Central Asia, Poland and Finland
>Central Asia falls relatively quickly but Finland and Poland hold Russia off until 1928
>Poland and Finland would capitulate in 1930 and would agree to cede Karelia, Eastern Poland and the port of Danzig with city of Danzig being given to the Germans
>In exchange for being semi autonomous, Poland and Finland would recognize Nicholas II as their monarch
>Poland and Finland would have democratically elected leaders
>Hungary, Slovakia, Romania, Yugoslavia and France would be communist by 1930
>Kaiser Wilhelm II would remain as the Kaiser of Germany, ruling as a constitutional monarch and Adolf Hitler would become Chancellor of Germany in 1933
>Russia and its subjects would form the Moscow Berlin Axis with Mussolini joining soon after
>In 1934 the international Commune was formed after Native rebellions against France, Portugal and England would be successful in Africa and Indochina
>In 1935 Spain would retake Morocco
>the next year the Spanish civil war would occur
>Franco loses the Spanish Civil war however he would survive in Morocco
>In 1940 tensions between the commune and the Moscow Berlin Axis would boil over with the seizure of the Czech Republic
>The Czech Republic was very friendly towards the Axis and The allies
>German and Polish troops would meet the communist forces at Prague in April of 1940
>Greece and Bulgaria would join the Axis in July of 1940
>in 1942 The Axis would push communists out of Central Europe and in May of 1942 the Axis would begin a bush into France
>Japan would form the pro prosperity sphere and attack Pearl Harbor
>The United States would join the allies as England declares war on the commune in December of 1942
>operation overlord occurs on June 6th 1943
>by May 9th 1945 France and Spain had completely capitulated and most colonies in Africa had been reclaimed, Ending the war in Europe
>The Axis would aid the allies in the pacific campaign and by 1946 Japan’s Navy was destroyed and in 1947 2 nukes would be dropped on Japan
>Japan would join the Axis and the rest of the co prosperity sphere would join the allies
>on August 27th Tsar Nicholas II would die peacefully in his sleep with his son Alexei taking the throne in Russia
>Peace would last up until the 1980’s but this scenario is long enough
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