3ad9b9 No.659199 [Last50 Posts]
Guess the Glockteen 11 with a chamber full of empty space wasn't so popular.
http://archive.is/diOj3
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26c1a7 No.659210
Who would pay for this shit anyways?
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d3e8ab No.659212
>>659210
They're down to ~$700 on the street since half of them have defects and there's nowhere to get parts from.
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9cca25 No.659236
>>659214
No, it's a retarded, overpriced frankengun designed in powerpoint, and you'd be better off selling bootleg guns from video games
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1aaaf7 No.659248
>>659236
>designed in powerpoint
I keep hearing this meme but I've never seen proof of it.
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c17d12 No.659250
>>659199
I don't know much about this company, how did the fuck up?
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d3e8ab No.659255
>>659248
When Karl and Ian were shilling it, they did an interview with the husband and wife team that made it. They used PowerPoint to shop a 1911, hired a machinist, and went from there.
Yes, they were that retarded and people were actually looking forward to the gun.
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9cca25 No.659257
>>659250
>how did the fuck up?
ugly gun, does nothing special, costs 6 million dollars
>>659212
What and how many better guns can you buy for 700 dollars?
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d3e8ab No.659268
>>659257
>What and how many better guns can you buy for 700 dollars?
Anything that costs $700 or less.
They outsourced production to some assholes who have never done it before so returns and warranties were sent in because of various defections ranging from cosmetic to functional. I'd rather buy a barebones M&P or Glawk and spend the rest on mags and ammunition.
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9cca25 No.659272
>>659268
>Anything that costs $700 or less.
no shit, but as you might've deduced from the flag, I'm not familiar with handgun market enough to know all the sub 700 dollars superior alternatives to the powerpoint gun.
Maxim 9? hi-point?
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50c4c6 No.659279
>>659272
Any Hi-Power derivative. Given your proximity to Czechia, I recommend the CZ 75. It's the grandson of the M1911 and it's fucking flawless.
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f041f6 No.659285
>>659272
In America you can generally get a Hi-Power clone or a CZ75 (original or clone) for less than that. For that $700 you could also buy two striker fired polymer framed pistols that are of good quality.
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3ad9b9 No.659288
>>659250
They charged 1100 dollars for something that only provided incremental performance gains over the competition. On top of that, they shoot low out of the box, and aren't any more accurate than other handguns. Most of that area in front of the trigger guard is just empty space, it consists entirely of moving the recoil spring a bit lower and wasting a lot of internal space and adding weight for no reason.
It has only two real advantages: bore axis and muh straight-pull 1911-style trigger. The bore-axis is only a little bit lower than the competition, to the point that no regular shooter will notice the difference. Professional competition shooters that would notice the difference will go for the Laugo Alien, or a different design that has a more substantial impact on bore-axis. The straight-pull trigger is nice, but A) only some people even notice a difference between the two and B) even for those people, the difference is so incremental it only matters to competition shooters, but because the rest of the gun isn't optimized towards competition, it really doesn't make any sense. I might see this being a viable design at 600 dorrar, if you're the type of person who's interested in """""unique""""" designs, but at anything higher it's a useless gun.
>>659272
Thirding CZ derivatives, the CZ-SP01 phantom is basically the CZ-75 updated with modern features and it's top-tier. My second choice after that would be Steyr's line of pistols, if you're looking for something striker-fired rather than hammer-fired.
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c17d12 No.659293
>>659288
> 1100 dollars
Literally what the fuck were they thinking?
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5aa5bf No.659296
>wanting 1100 buckaroos for powerpoint monstrosity
They were doomed to fail.
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9cca25 No.659304
>>659288
>They charged 1100 dollars
Looked up C96 and Luger-p08 for sale.
you could get C96 for 800~ and P08 from 1917 for only 200 dollars more, what the fuck, who would buy this piece of shit?
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372450 No.659329
>>659288
For 1100, I can get a vepr 12, a drum mag, a box of ammo to fill up said drum mag, a bottle of vodka, some watermelons, and some gas to go to a nice spot where I can get drunk and blow up said melons. Then after a good nap, I can stop by a decent burger joint for dinner and still have some dosh in my pocket at the end of the day.
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b270db No.659337
>>659288
>CZ-SP01 Phantom
My personal favorite. Trigger could be better, but otherwise pretty flawless. The SP01 line is an awesome update to the already fantastic CZ-75 platform.
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894346 No.659353
>>659288
Not to mention, at 1100 its in direct competition with glorious Shadow 2. If someone really wants muh bore axis, steyr m9 exists for less than half the price. Even if it had no other issues, it would still be a pistol for no one. Hudson owes surviving as long as it did entirely eceleb shilling.
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eb5208 No.659367
>>659199
hopefully the wife will do porn now.
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26c1a7 No.659374
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251eef No.659533
>>659279
If you exclude the slide made for the hands of dwarf chinese children
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50c4c6 No.659540
>>659533
>CZ 75 slide
>particularly small
Maybe if you have rheumatoid arthritis. I've never had problems handling any wonder nine, revolver, M1911, or not-Glock, and I have small hands. I'm looking at my next purchase to be a Rock Island Ultra FS HC in 10mm or an FNX-45 Tactical, actually.
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1214e5 No.659547
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>659248
Here's the interview. I'm too lazy to provide a timestamp, but you should listen to the whole thing anyway.
>>659255
Don't forget, they hired "CAD guys" who never worked with firearms. There is an other video with them where they show the prototypes, and one of the first ones had a ridiculously thick barrel. It's because they used an M1911 as their basis, and they kept the .45 ACP barrel for the 9mm gun.
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dc249d No.659549
>>659547
>There is an other video with them where they show the prototypes, and one of the first ones had a ridiculously thick barrel. It's because they used an M1911 as their basis, and they kept the .45 ACP barrel for the 9mm gun.
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28cebb No.659570
>>659337
>>659279
>overpriced
>double/single garbage
>9mmicropenis
just get a good 1911
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50c4c6 No.659572
>>659570
>CZ 75
>overpriced
You can get them for under $400. Maybe you should try not being a faggot. Single action only is definitely the master race for smooth shooting, but that doesn't excuse your homosexuality.
t. owner of RIA Tact-2011 and Sig P229
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28cebb No.659574
>>659572
>"hue hue I found one this one time for THIS much
>double/single garbage
>9mmicropenis
>"P229"
>double/single garbage
>retarded bore axis
>shitty aluminum frame that get its shit fucked up by the massive steel slide
at least it's not 9mmicropenis
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50c4c6 No.659577
>>659574
>P229 is somehow a slur
Are you uneducated or just a nogunz?
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1214e5 No.659583
>>659570
>1911
At that point you might as well just get a revolver chambered for a decent cartridge. The .45 ACP was designed to replicate the .45 Schofield, and the magazine only holds seven of them. How is that better than a seven shot revolver chambered for .357 Magnum?
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ec3938 No.659596
>>659288
>1100
you know Hitler i remember when the FW fags went full damage control when people said it was to much money.
Glad they failed honestly.
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d4e0bc No.659608
>>659288
1100? I remember when it came out it was 1500.
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df0ae9 No.659610
>>659583
8 shot revolver in .357 mag tbh
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1214e5 No.659611
>>659610
You can have an additional round in the chamber of the 1911, so that's a fair point.
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50c4c6 No.659622
>>659610
8+1 capacity in an RIA pistol tbh
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df0ae9 No.659635
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
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b270db No.659636
>>659570
>1911
>so much jam
>single stack master race lolol
>whoops I forgot to disengage my safety sry
>dat field strip procedure
>hand-fit parts lol
And if you insist on using a .45 at least get something beefy enough to handle a conversion to .45 super
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ef775c No.659643
>>659636
>1911s
>jam
>implying the stripping isn't retard simple
Go home buck angel, nobody thinks you're cool here
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b270db No.659646
>>659643
>implying field stripping most modern pistols isn't even simpler and faster
Come on.
>jam
In a sub-$700 1911? Yep, probably. There are exceptions, of course.
We're just talking personal preferences here, sir; no need to be shitty. The fact is that both the CZ 75 and 1911 are great designs with a lot of history behind them, and both have their place.
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d3e8ab No.659654
>>659646
>In a sub-$700 1911? Yep, probably.
Sub-$700 1911 pistols have shit springs/extractors, $700-and-up 1911 pistols are too tightly fit out of the factory and seize up through friction until the edges are worn down.
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92e823 No.659672
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50c4c6 No.659681
>>659636
I have never had a single malfunction out of a thousand rounds in my RIA, which is a $600 pistol. One hangfire, which can be blamed on a bad cartridge, probably a primer issue. 'nine ten levuns jam lolol' is a retarded myth, unless you buy Kimber or Colt like a nigger.
>all M1911s are single stack
>manual safeties are a bad thing
>you have to use the manual safety, it's not literally fucking optional
>I love shitty triggers
>I love how my Glock requires me to pull the trigger to strip, haha whoops I left the mag in
>tight tolerances are bad!
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5aa5bf No.659687
>>659681
>>I love how my Glock requires me to pull the trigger to strip, haha whoops I left the mag in
So what you're saying is Glock is for the high IQ operator and M1911 is for brainlets, got it.
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b270db No.659689
>>659681
Like I said, there are exceptions. RIA is one of them. Same deal with double-stack magazines: they're the exception.
I was mostly just knocking 1911s because
>>659574
>>659570
was being a jackass.
As I said in
>>659646
>both the CZ 75 and 1911 are great designs with a lot of history behind them, and both have their place.
No hard feelings, friend. At the risk of pissing you off even more though: do you really consider the manual safety of a 1911 optional? In other words, would you comfortably recommend carrying condition 0 to the average person?
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50c4c6 No.659706
>>659689
The average person? No. I carry C0 and am perfectly confident doing so because of my training and because of prior experiences where I've had to defend myself, and I know that in any future situation I am not willing to risk the extra step and the extra quarter of a second that's involved in making sure I flick the safety during my draw. The average person, on the other hand, is either not a gun owner or barely knows the minimum to handle one, most people are not willing to carry, and most that carry don't do so seriously and responsibly. C0 is a technique for people who have the mentality to act quickly and without making mistakes.
Since the average person makes up retarded excuses like 'I don't carry my gun because I feel dangerous' or 'it's too heavy lol', I don't trust them to be able to make good judgement in a stressful situation. So, for them, a safety is good. If you intentionally practice with turning the safety off as a main part of your draw, you can get very smooth and fast with it. It's just not my personal preference. Honestly? I wouldn't mind having a pistol with no grip safety either, because those can pose a potential risk of failure to fire, but that's a compromise that I'm okay with in a non-custom gun. It's my job to retain my gun and keep my grip tight.
The average person does not practice or leaves their gun at home every day, though, which is a damn shame.
>TL;DR: whatever the shooter's confident with
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d3e8ab No.659870
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>first ~8 minutes of the video confirming that anything that Karl and Ian enjoy and support dies
>making excuses for guns breaking after purchases
>10:22 - NO IT'S YOUR FAULT FOR BUYING IT
>11:58 - We just expect too much, it's our fault.
>13:25 - Wanting a gun that works is an outrageously high standard.
>13:46 - HMG Sturmgewehr
<hurdur machining and work is HARD guys
>22:25 - I knew it all along, I saw it coming a mile away!
>22:54 - Innovation is bad!
<~25 minutes - lol whoops I forgot to tell you not to preorder guns while telling you to preorder guns after I preordered the gun also I got ripped off before the same way
>PLEASE DON'T BLAME KARL AND I FOR SHILLING TERRIBLE THINGS
>remember guys gaston glock made a miracle and he probably almost didn't
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ef775c No.659898
>>659870
Now that's some quality kikery
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623222 No.659904
all you heebs shitting on a man that put his life's savings on a passion project handgun just because some cumlord satanist endorsed it. i'm saddened by Hudson going down, I hope someone buys them up.
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f200c0 No.659909
>>659904
>get glock
>make it look like a 1911
>move the recoil spring down in the name of "muh bore axis"
>don't actually lower the bore axis at all, so there's a 2" gap between the recoil spring and barrel
>"that'll be 3 grand please"
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ef775c No.659910
>>659904
>use your considerable reputation to shill a product from an unproven company with a product that was designed in fucking paint
>wonder why people who put their trust onto your word are upset when it cost them money
He did it to himself and there is no pity here to be found. fuck off ian.
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902761 No.659913
its like buying a DeLorean.
obviously there are reasons the rest of the world don't do it like that, but what the hell
auto mechanic buddy's shop does lots of work on DeLoreans. owners are all "Smart people who spend their money on stupid shit".
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5aa5bf No.659952
>>659870
Typical kike bastards. Someone should go Tarrant their asses.
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b270db No.659975
>>659730
>>659731
I never even mentioned a Glock, friend. The CZ products that I did mention have a faster, simpler takedown procedure than a 1911 as well.
>don't buy cheap shit, and clean your gun
But we're literally talking about sub-$700 guns. As it was mentioned before, not all cheap 1911s jam, but it's pretty damn common in my experience.
I wasn't even going to bring up the caliber debate, because it usually doesn't do anyone any good, but there's no reason to knock 9mm. It's a perfectly decent round with pleasant recoil characteristics, it allows for high capacity, and although it may not expand to the same extent as 45 ACP, it does reliably expand more often and is quite capable of offering deeper penetration. Plus, it's cheap.
The idea of double/single action "sucking" is just silly. Single action clearly offers a better trigger pull (in the case of stock pistols... customization can really narrow the gap) but DA/SA protects against negligent discharge without having to worry about disengaging a safety (which can be overcome with training, of course, but still.) DA has one more benefit, though, which is that if you get a light primer strike you can pull the trigger a second time to give it one more try.
>>659706
Understood, and agreed. I wasn't knocking you for your decision, I just wanted you to clarify your opinion.
>The average person does not practice or leaves their gun at home every day
Hit the nail so hard on the head here. It almost makes me want to live in a state that require hands-on instruction to acquire a CCW license, because
>whatever the shooter's confident with
is a moot point if they're not confident with ANYTHING. It is a damn shame.
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fa746a No.659995
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2ea99f No.659996
>>659995
Sorry, it's gone now.
But there's one with matching stock for 1030 on gunbroker.
Not sure what burgers use to buy guns online, is it a legitimate site?
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fa746a No.659998
>>659996
It is really iffy. You arent sure what you will get in terms of product description. I only see C96s at my local gunshow go over $2000.
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5aa5bf No.660002
>>659998
>at my local gunshow
Let's be fair, gunshows mark up their prices to retarded prices.
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16dd66 No.660008
Is the GWACs lower good? Anything new about their new production since they announced they needed to change locations in January? I hope their new version has an 80% option. Durability of aluminum with the ease of milling polymer
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50c4c6 No.660009
>>660008
>polymer receiver ever
>retardedly light rifles are good, what is recoil management or parts breakage
It's a shitpost.
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16dd66 No.660010
>>660009
>5.56
>recoil management
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5aa5bf No.660011
>>660009
>what is recoil management
Negligible for 556?
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d3e8ab No.660012
>>660009
>>polymer receiver ever
To be fair, they made the lower with the material in mind and it's not a 1:1 copy of a standard lower.
>recoil management
get fucked
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b9e889 No.660033
>>660010
>>660009
>>660011
>>660012
Retards think recoil management is "muh feelz" and bruising shoulders and pain. Its not, its about how fast you can pull follow up shots in string and otherwise rapid fire. You can shoot faster better with a heavier gun, therefore yes even in 5.56mm a heavier gun will mitigate recoil better and provide faster follow up. Another great reason why they are getting all teh kids to put heavy rails filled with shit on the front of their AR's is to make up for the fact that the AR15's front light design turned out to be a flaw instead of a feature. Easier to control a heavier gun.
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5aa5bf No.660034
>>660033
>Retards think recoil management is "muh feelz" and bruising shoulders and pain. Its not, its about how fast you can pull follow up shots in string and otherwise rapid fire.
Literally nobody said that. Muzzle rise determines the ability to put quick follow up shots in rifles, not recoil management. Recoil management is a term usually used for pistols because that's where recoil management and muzzle rise and almost synonymous. Heavier gun =/= easier control, if you transition from target to target the inertial mass is greater with a heavier gun making it even harder to control, hence why the cool slick comp ARs are light as fuck with huge muzzle comps. Of course everything can be mitigated with training, training is the great equalizer here, but don't make retarded statements like "You can shoot faster better with a heavier gun" that's just not fucking true.
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cb68ec No.660054
>>659975
>"muh takedown"
people bitch about the 1911 takedown because there's pretty much nothing else to bitch about.
>"muh gun jammed"
>"muh jam"
>"I'm not cleaning a gun because it takes me a little bit longer to take it apart and it cost $600, so there."
I hate people like you. You are a moron. All guns will jam. The only reason Glocks jam less often is because Gaston removed 25% of the chamber and lowered the feeding ramp, and that's why Glock is really good for nothing besides 9mm. Otherwise the difference in "jamming" is meaningless and is contingent on at least a few factors.
>"there's no reason to knock 9mm"
The reason 9mm has "pleasant recoil characteristics" is because the 9mm is weak. It's simple physics. If a round is weak, then it will have light, easy to control recoil. If a round is more powerful, it will recoil harder. The force has to go somewhere. 9mm faggots want to have their cake and eat it too, but no, you're wrong, I'm afraid. The 9mm is easy to shoot and has a "high capacity" for a reason; it is a weak round.
>muh 9mm is cheap
because it is a weak round. It requires less brass, less powder, and less lead, because it is a weak round. Since most gun people don't actually shoot, 9mm is popular, it's a nogunz round, which further drives the cost down, and even so we're talking about a few cents compared to .40 and .45. If you can't afford a few more cents per round to shoot, then you shouldn't be blowing your money on guns at all, you have bigger problems. The 9mm is so weak that the 9mm shills upfront openly admit that they have to use high pressure, bonded bullets to get their expansion and penetration, and that without such ammo the 9mm would be inadequate. So right there out the window goes the cost and recoil arguments.
>double/single semi-autos really are good
no, they're shit. The whole idea of double/single is centered around people having no idea what they're doing, so the Germans in WW2 just made the first pull on the p-38 absurdly heavy so they would stop accidentally shooting themselves. Tactically it is inferior to a manual safety, especially on SIGs with their "SRT" trigger; you go from a massive 10lb pull to a microscopic sub lb pull and is totally disorienting even with extended use. The 1911 external safety is uniquely ergonomic, people have said this over and over again.
Hudson was a gimmick gun that used a gimmick round and was designed by low-IQ people. The whole gun industry right now is shit, it is purely gauged around cost obsession and limp wrist pussies, and there's a lot of guys out there who realize this and are tired of it. Hudson should have built a gun from the ground-up for the 10mm given that it is making a comeback these days, a CC gun designed specifically for 10mm, meaning a p229 style heavy slide and steel frame. I can hear the 9mm pussies now coming in to bitch about "muh weight." I HATE you fucking people.
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eb5208 No.660077
>>659870
does anyone still like these fags?
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69fc8f No.660086
>>660009
>recoil management
Recoil management has to do with bolt/slide weighting first and foremost, body/frame weight is negligible. If anything being front heavy HELPS recoil management.
Lightweight bolt is retardation, lightweight body isn't.
>Thinking any of it actually matters on a 5.56.
Retard.
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8646be No.660113
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9bd921 No.660132
>>660008
>>660009
The SCAR seems to get along fine with a polymer lower, as well as the beretta ARX. So long as the upper receiver stays metal and the polymer is chink airshit tier, its fine in theory. I haven't heard of anything like this other than the ATI omni which is complete garbage, though.
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9bd921 No.660134
>>660132
>So long as the upper receiver stays metal and the polymer is chink airshit tier
isnt…isnt cheap shit. fug
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ef775c No.660136
>>660132
> I haven't heard of anything like this
the plum crazy lowers are completely polymer. though i won't buy into the shilling put into them. they come with a lifetime warranty though, make of that what you will.
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9cf46c No.660632
Just picked up muh hudson. Less than 650 freedom sheckles. Ask me anything.
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50c4c6 No.660633
>>660632
No you didn't, nogunz.
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9cf46c No.660637
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cc38fd No.660639
>>660637
>it's real
How is it, any problems yet?
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19c81f No.660641
>>660637
Did you use some of your foreskin as payment to get that discount?
Take it apart and show us its insides. I wanna see what one in the wild looks like not a show piece slathered in karls jizz
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7506cd No.660642
>>660008
I bought into the meme, its very light weight and is just as structurally sound as they said, but the uncaptured cross pins are too tight to disassemble by hand and I don't have the time/will to file the holes. Want it? $100 firm, will send via ffl to your ffl.
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19c81f No.660644
>>660132
The issue with poly AR lowers is due to the receiver extension area being a thin weak area prone to snapping. The other guns don't have this issue since those lowers are like an M60s or older H&K style, just grip and fire control group nothing else.
sage for double post
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9cf46c No.660646
>>660639
Have yet to shoot it.
>>660641
Its pretty obvious why it cost so much. There are way too many milling operations. Just look at all the cuts in the barrel.
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5aa5bf No.660657
>>660646
Overengineered piece of shit
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7ed433 No.660658
>>660646
If someone told me that the round part of the barrel wasn't made in a lathe, but milled from a solid block of metal, I'd believe him. I can barely find a geometry that actually does something useful, yet it's full of small cuts for no reason whatsoever.
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d919e2 No.660666
Unfocused vertical vid because life is meaningless. For what is worth I put about a hundred rounds through it without a hang up.
>handles like a motherfucker
>easy pointing and low recoil are not memes
>shoots like a competition glock or m&p
>mags require the force of a thousand thumbs to load
Its a shame they couldn't iron out the production and whatnot.
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ae27e5 No.660692
>>659570
>just get a good 1911
>fudds found 8/k/
Goddamn it.
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9734d1 No.660696
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eaa448 No.660702
>>660692
>>660696
Don't be breaking rule five now.
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a8b1aa No.660729
>>659904
Aren't both of the Hudsons veterans?
>take your fancy GI bill to the local college
>take a few engineering courses
>learn your math and get smrter
>don't hire a 3rd party to CAD-design your passion project with a life savings investment
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5aa5bf No.660733
>>659904
While putting your money where your mouth is and trying to create something new is very admirable, they were by all means retards to try to jump into the firearm industry. No one's going to buy a 1100 dollar pistol when a 600 dollar Glock will do the same damn job. They should've just bought government bonds with their savings instead.
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7f4637 No.660751
>>660733
>While putting your money where your mouth is and trying to create something new is very admirable, they were by all means retards to try to jump into the firearm industry.
That and there's the fact that, as far as I'm aware, these guys didn't have any sort of engineering, metalworking, or manufacturing experience. They just figured they'd jump in feet first and outsource what they needed to.
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15f4fd No.660910
Welp, that didnt last long…
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ef775c No.660911
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51bc46 No.660913
>>660910
All that fucking milling on the barrel, shitty steel or both?
For shame anon, you could have had 20 moist nuggets for the burgerbucks you payed on that thing.
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15ae10 No.660914
>>660910
Guess the thread speaks for itself now.
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23ce15 No.660915
>>660910
Could you take a few picturse of it outside of the slide and from different angles? I want to see that crack real good.
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15f4fd No.660916
I think it was a factory double charge… still should have handled it better. I took somthing to the face and glasses tho, bled like a stuck pig.
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15f4fd No.660917
>>660915
Will get more later, pretty sure there is brass and or steel lodged in my face.
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3f9309 No.660918
>>660910
I lost 15 dollars. Thanks bro.
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488bc4 No.660919
>>660916
>>660917
Christ on a stick!
Medical needs first, shitposting later, it's an 8/k thread will still be here tomorrow, you phone poster.
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c90501 No.660920
>>660910
>>660913
>>660916
>>660919
What the fuck actually happened there?
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23ce15 No.660922
>>659635
What's the point then? smh tbh famalam
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3f9309 No.660924
>>660919
Shitposting is priority man. I mean its not like you can't wait to stitch up a graze.
t.guy who bled like a sliced pig
>>660920
Looks like a squib gone wrong, or a factory fuck up on both ends.
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15ae10 No.660929
>>660917
>seriously injured and bleeding
>first instinct is to post exploded gun
You aren't quite 'eat a DU boolit' retarded, but I commend you on your dedication to shitposting.
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ef775c No.660930
>>660920
>What the fuck actually happened there?
The perfect shitstorm.
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9bd921 No.660931
>>660910
>>660916
>>660917
Pics of barrel out of frame when you're done being bleeding faggot pls
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15f4fd No.660936
>>660931
Gun is locked up. The slide is bowed out and up over one of the rails. Barrel is split almost halfway up.
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5aa5bf No.660937
>>660936
Holy shit, what a piece of garbage
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f200c0 No.660939
>>660910
>"made in america"
>high quality
Pick one
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2f5be5 No.660946
>>660632
>Less than 650 freedom sheckles. Ask me anything.
How does it feel spending 650 dollars to cause physical harm to yourself?
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d919e2 No.660950
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79911a No.660959
>>660936
wew.
Are you planning to cast jew sorcery and sue hudson?
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d919e2 No.660962
>>660959
Cant sue what no longer exists. Also cant file a warranty claim. Guess i got a new doorstop.
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23ce15 No.660963
>>660961
On the right side it split along one of those completely needless cuts, and on the left side it split in two where the material seems to be the thickest. I really am baffled.
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b270db No.660964
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3f9309 No.660965
>>660962
Get me a photo like the second, but the barrel is facing left.
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51bc46 No.660966
>>660962
Well now that you have been bullied accordingly by the board and the gun I will say thanks for risking life and limb to show of that POS.
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d919e2 No.660971
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d919e2 No.660972
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23ce15 No.660974
>>660963
>>660972
I take back my words, it split everywhere. Actually, it might be just a trick of the perspective, but it looks like a significant amount of material was
FUCKING BLOWN OUT FROM THIS PIECE OF SHIT!
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50c4c6 No.660975
>barrel is unnaturally fat for 9mm
>like twice the thickness of a .45 barrel
Are you sure that worthless piece of garbage was milled and not cast, shill-kun? Did they even heat treat any of the parts? I'm in disbelief.
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3f9309 No.660976
>>660971
>>660972
>>660974
Looks like an engineering fault, we'll probably be seeing more of these things go pop like that.
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d1d92e No.660977
What ammo did you used, anon?
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418a86 No.660978
>>660971
So is this a fault in the design or the manufacturing?
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418a86 No.660979
>>660978
Why am I posting under this flag? My VPN says the server is in Brisbane.
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cc38fd No.660980
>>660962
>>660971
>>660972
What a fucking piece of junk, hope you're alright anon.
What ammo did you use?
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79911a No.660983
>>660962
Its all a matter of wording your lawsuit, anon.
>If your lawsuit is discharged through bankruptcy, you are prevented from continuing with it and you can never collect from the company. However, if your lawsuit alleges the company caused you willful and malicious injury or it defrauded you, the debt is non-dischargeable, and your claim will survive the bankruptcy.
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8b0b22 No.661015
>>660977
>>660980
115gr low tier federal or wwb. I had it loose packed in cans and tossed threw boxes.
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251eef No.661020
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d3e8ab No.661022
>>660962
>Cant sue what no longer exists.
Sue the company they outsourced it to.
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54bb35 No.661032
>>660913
>For shame anon, you could have had 20 moist nuggets for the burgerbucks you payed on that thing.
>20
What is this, 2011?
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5aa5bf No.661041
>>660972
Woah didn't know Hudson made hand grenades.
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ea7777 No.661044
>>661041
Doesn't this mean they were successful in adapting Glocknade features after all?
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d1052e No.661052
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>660972
Did that fail along the rifling grooves?
>>661015
I highly doubt it was the ammo.
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b9e889 No.661063
Did Gunny McBlowey have any rounds where the bullet sank deeper into the case? One thing 9mm Luger has greater problems with compared to some other cartridges is that its high pressure and powder space sensitive. While one has a lot of leeway with a 45 ACP, 38 Special, 45 Colt, ect., 9mm ain't got much space to spare when you've got it loaded, if bullets get jammed deeper against the powder you can reduce the area of the cartridge in initial burn and push that high pressure much higher. Low pressure and big cases means other rounds have some tolerances and still be safe, others not so much.
Just speculating here, but if the shooter in question had rounds that somehow got pushed in further, poor and rough handling, perhaps the feeding ramp was that fucked and he slammed in a round that was chambering hard and got it to push in, just speculation. If it was factory ammunition, SAAMI non +p, then it had to be one shitty gun or something had to have happened to that ammunition.
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13e7d0 No.661088
>>660939
The brit is mostly right. You can still find well made U.S. made products that are industrial/heavy duty and where they have been making the same thing for a long ass time, as well as hand crafted products.
On the other hand, pretty much every newly engineered/factory made product is garbage made by spics. The De-industrialization of this country has led to indifferent QC and extremely substandard parts and materials that are subcontracted out.
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cce85d No.661147
>>659681
>>659706
1911fag, what should I do if I keep accidentally engaging the manual safety after I use the slide release? It seems too easy to engage and I've got long fingers and a high grip on the gun.
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d3e8ab No.661168
>>661147
Not him, but use your left thumb to engage the slide release. Or just don't use the slide release.
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50c4c6 No.661176
>>661147
How are you accidentally bringing your thumb back up after a positive stroke downwards, when the safety is harder to engage than disengage (at least in most I've handled)? Why are you thumbing the slide like that? If that's where you normally keep any of your digits then you should know that that has a really good chance of either injuring you or causing a cycling malfunction, with any pistol. Keep your niblets away from moving parts under high pressures. Aside from that, I can only assume you don't have enough practice, since there's no reason to be doing that extra motion.
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ac8358 No.661180
>>660910
This is what you get for not using your brain. Also take it apart and show broken shit
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ac8358 No.661184
I should read the thread before replying
>>660972
How
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2c8551 No.661201
>>661147
After you seat the magazine with your left hand use that hands thumb to drop the slide release.
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cce85d No.661222
>>661176
I got an extended slide release because I'm used to using my right thumb to drop the slide with my other pistols. The problem is, my right thumb's long enough that as it touches the slide release, the tendon on the side will push the safety upward as I exert pressure on the slide, so when the slide drops it also raises the safety. Doesn't completely engage and doesn't always happen, but enough to be a problem. I've actually noticed the inverse regarding the safety; it's easier to raise than lower.
I'm able to still drop the slide without bungling things if there isn't much spring pressure from the magazine but on my Wilson Combat mags it's so heavy that I need to really leverage my thumb downward to release the slide, thus causing the safety to come on.
>>661168
>>661201
I was hoping to avoid having to use my left hand to drop the slide, but if that's the only way to stop this from happening I'll do it.
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f200c0 No.661227
>>660972
>the H9 was actually a satanic plan engineered by Karl as a massive blood sacrifice as thousands of guns explode and kill/injure their users
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50c4c6 No.661232
>>661222
That's pretty strange, honestly, and I don't think I've ever quite heard of that particular problem before. It's more understandable now that I can visualise it. I can do everything with an M1911 one-handed, personally, which isn't bragging but may be unusual since I have small hands and most people complain about issues handling full size pistols, whereas I don't. You seem like you have the opposite case, though, weirdly big/gangly hands. Kinda sounds like my brother, actually. Do you also have super long toes?
Anyway, as other Streloks have suggested a Weaver style grip should allow you to drop the slide with your left hand without too much movement, but in my personal experience I find it easier to hold a sight picture by keeping my support still and using my right thumb. M1911s may just not be your gun, it happens. Sometimes things take inordinate amounts of practice to feel right, though, so don't get discouraged.
t. RIAfag
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cce85d No.661251
>>661232
I apparently have normal sized hands by length, but my fingers are long and twiggy. I've had them described as creepy.
Thanks for the help. It's probably because I'm riding the grip too high and making it worse by pushing my right hand up with my left.
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50c4c6 No.661257
>>661251
Would you mind getting a picture similar to this one? This is old and I was just showing off the gun so the angle isn't perfect, but if it isn't clear I do have the beaver tail dug into the web of my hand. When I reach for the slide release my thumb actually wraps around the safety, which is something I just checked to make sure I wasn't bullshitting. Maybe your hand is rotated to the right side of the gun, not giving your thumb as much range of motion so it has to go straight up? Or I guess if there's not much meat on the digit then it could be difficult to press the slide release without getting more on top of it.
When you shoot, have you ever noticed any issues with your accuracy, particularly do you miss to the right often?
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5aa5bf No.661259
>>661232
Those aren't small hands anon, THESE are small hands.
t. zognald dorfph
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cce85d No.661262
>>661257
I haven't shot it enough to tell my shithole range only lets you shoot pistols starting at 50 yards unless you're on the pistol range, and my 1911 is actually a rifle so I'm trapped in boomer hell.
Hopefully these pictures help. It seems my thumb is significantly longer than yours.
After noticing more closely, it seems that my thumb's actually pushing the safety up from the underside of the safety (as in the bottom of the entire metal piece as opposed to the tab sticking out the side.
Included an image of me engaging the slide release on my SP-01, which I can do comfortably without adjusting my grip much.
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b270db No.661265
>>661262
It could just be your long and bony fingers, so I apologize if I'm wrong here, but from these pictures it looks to me like your grip is a bit off. It's like your hand is rotated too far inboard, if that makes sense.
If you hold the pistol and make sure your wrist is perfectly straight, is the gun also perfectly straight?
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b270db No.661266
>>661265
>inboard
To clarify, it's almost like you're cocking your wrist to the RIGHT and causing your thumb to wrap further around the gun on the LEFT.
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cce85d No.661271
>>661266
Well, yeah. My thumb won't reach the slide release enough to leverage useful force if I don't. I can actuate it without cocking my wrist and it still results in my thumb's skin on the right flipping the safety. It's just a lot less comfortable.
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cce85d No.661273
>>661266
Here's a better image of my normal grip and me using the slide release while avoiding cocking my wrist. As you can see, the skin on the right of the thumb between the knuckle and joint causes the safety to engage as I press down on the lever. My thumb is currently pushing down on it (not enough to drop the slide obviously) and I can feel the skin putting upward pressure on the safety. When the slide drops, the safety engages right after.
Adjusting my grip as in the previous images gives me more leverage and leaves a slight pocket for the safety so my thumb doesn't always touch it, but when it does the same effect happens.
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b270db No.661275
>>661271
Roger that. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful. Looks like you're going to need to use your left hand after all, because you don't want to be changing your grip or accidentally engaging the safety during a gunfight.
>>661273
Yeah, I get it now. Sorry about your unique anatomy, bro.
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cce85d No.661279
>>661275
Appreciate the help. I'm going to see if I can change out the safety for something that fits more flush with the frame.
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50c4c6 No.661324
>>661262
Yeah, your hands really are a little abnormal, or at least the thumb is. That's just how the genetic lottery goes sometimes. Looking at these and your other pictures I'm really not sure what further advice I could offer you without being in person to get a closer look at things, but I think you've already made the right conclusion by deciding to do it left-handed. Your thumb's definitely longer and thinner than mine although I do have slightly buff thumbs for what that's worth.
You have some nice shootas, by the way. How do you like those GI style sights with the long barrel? I'm a three dot guy myself.
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0662f1 No.661371
>>660916
>muh high pressure .40 is bad
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0662f1 No.661372
>>661015
it wasn't federal or winchester
can't believe you dropped $700 on that garbage.
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cce85d No.661380
>>661324
The GI sights mean that any advantage the 16 inch barrel gives are neutralized by being unable to effectively engage at distances beyond like 35-45 yards. I can barely see a fucking thing. Using the stock helps a lot but I'd like to replace the GI sights with 3-dots.
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50c4c6 No.661382
>>661380
I'd happily recommend either irons like mine, or some raised target-style ones. You obviously aren't planning to use a suppressor unless you bother to replace that long-ass barrel, but high profile irons are also way nicer for shooting at range. The rear sight on mine is technically adjustable, I guess, but honestly I've never touched it. GI sights are kind of ass, though they were designed with a military sidearm in mind, so it makes sense that they're less useful than other sorts. Fair warning, most sight replacements are gonna require a smith.
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50c4c6 No.661383
>>661382
Well, I guess I shouldn't say most since I don't actually know that, but I know a lot of the ones I've used have a non-standard dovetail and quite often a screw down into the slide as well to make sure they don't move.
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6e29ed No.661572
>>660939
I mostly agree with this, though unlike your country we can still make a good rifle. Nothing is built to last anymore, its cutting as many corners as you can.
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f200c0 No.661574
>>661572
You can't though, Colt is dogshit and FN makes all your M4s now. Just look at the absolute STATE of US-made AKs.
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3f9309 No.661589
>>661574
Colt and FN guns are breddy much the same, you're just paying for the rollmark. iirc FN is doing it cheaper than both Remington and Colt.
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e4942f No.661592
>>661574
Colt's problem has never been quality, they're just terminally incapable of managing costs and vastly overestimate the value of the pony rollmark.
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e21b8d No.661655
>>661574
>its a ignore Ruger, Smith&Wesson, Savage, Armalite, Lewis Machine and tool, Daniel defense, Weatherby, and hipoint derail
Let me guess, next you are going to say burgers can't make bread or cheese because wonderbread and kraft singles is what you use as a standard for this country.
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623222 No.661925
>>660962
i'd buy it off you and machine a replacement
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387682 No.666172
>taking muh stopping power over magazine capacity
kek
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5d4c8a No.666177
>>660939
>>661088
>>661572
The part the Britbong leaves out is that they make about as much shit locally as the US does. UK is just as addicted to chinkshit garbage as the rest of the West.
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b9e889 No.666188
>>661592
Rumbles and murmors are that Colt's quality has been slipping the last few years, and the shutting down of shops and cutting costs has meant that one of its greatest assets, its human capital, is bleeding out and some of its good gunsmiths and best guys are leaving/gone. that quality is slipping, that Colt isn't just in cash problems, its reaching a dangerous point of no return as its liabilities and prices continue to go up while its quality, its old strong point, decreases. Every time you look at it, it just keeps getting worse. Colt needs those guns to sell for those prices, and once its last thing beyond the name brand go its a safe bet to say the brand is just waiting to die. A slow, decades long, miserable death.
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e21b8d No.666191
>>666188
That's an interesting rumor seeing that Colt doesn't even make firearms anymore and just slaps their rollmark on guns they buy from the Philippines and pedal shitty nigger rap tier malt liquor.
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bbb63f No.666192
>>666177
I'm not implying you have no industry, I'm saying that what shit you do produce is typically low quality, even worse than chinkshit somehow.
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b9e889 No.666203
>>666191
Maybe they were complaining about the quality of the malt liquor?
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82f0ca No.680436
We got any anons who live down in Temple who can go and check with the Hudson guys, see what's left? With how desperate they are to make any money back in order to pay off their creditors, we could buy the plans for this gun and make it ourselves.
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d94555 No.680440
There's a H9 at my LGS marked down to 550, and im honestly tempted to get it purely for memes. should i?
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5aa5bf No.680442
>>680440
Didn't a fag do that in this thread and the gun literally blew up on him.
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d94555 No.680443
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e38040 No.680447
>>680440
I've seen very good Star BMs for 250… Do it, anakin. Kill him
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e1623c No.680452
>>660008
It's been shilled by the InRange guys, so I am guessing it's shit.
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3ad9b9 No.680461
>>660008
It's not bad, but if you're going for a lightweight build, there are other options you can try. And those options aren't constantly out of stock thanks to inRange shilling.
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c1eed9 No.680464
>>660011
>>660010
>>660012
>>660086
durr me macho man me no need rekoil mange men me cuntroll boom stik wif big mussles. funni me me men on word and picture site told rekoil mange men for dum dum. eek ook my boo boo is big me rub big boo boo on boom stick me stick boo boo in boom stik boo boo hole and make baby juice inside. few moons be four i get little boom stik babys
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4e72a4 No.680465
>>680464
The posters you replied to are all faggots but you still managed to be ten times worse. Fuck off back to cuckchan and never return.
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45e76e No.680470
>>661574
>Colt
>America can't make good guns
>Lists big name publicly traded company
You might as well have listed a Khyber Pass company, because that's what all publicly traded companies are.
It's a race to the bottom. Minimum Viable Product.
How many garage gunsmiths exist in America?
How many off the books gunsmiths exist in America?
I'm willing to bet that their quality exceeds that of any major manufacturer.
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a8780b No.680512
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a8780b No.680517
>>659574
9mm is more powerful then 45
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c9f292 No.680546
>hudson tries to make a low-bore pistol out of a glock and 1911
>fails spectacularly with an ugly-ass result
>russians make one in less time and entirely original
>is a much better weapon both aesthetically and mechanically
To be honest though, original PL-14 had an absolute assload of reliability issues and wasn't that good, but PL-15 fixed pretty much all of them.
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5bff7b No.680552
>>680512
>hash filename
I see the cancer has metastated here
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4e72a4 No.680564
>>680552
The BUMMERS autism wasn't your first clue
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865281 No.680569
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c1eed9 No.680578
>>680465
I agree. If someone breaks into your house, you could just stick the barrel of your plastic gun under his chin and fire, both shooting him and giving him an uppercut when the muzzle kicks a couple inches up
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4e72a4 No.680583
>>680569
>autistic screeching
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a8780b No.680603
>>660008
should've called it the JEB-15
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a8780b No.680604
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a8780b No.680606
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5aa5bf No.680614
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c94f66 No.680880
>>680436
>We got any anons who live down in Temple who can go and check with the Hudson guys, see what's left? With how desperate they are to make any money back in order to pay off their creditors, we could buy the plans for this gun and make it ourselves.
why would you want that? i could make a better project in paint
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28b5d8 No.684908
>>659288
Allow me to disagree. Minor gains in major factors that can't be had any other way for a mere $600 (or 2x) price of Glock sound like a GREAT biz model.
For fucks sake, browse any normie gun forum like (((Calguns))). Every Boomer and his nephews are all adding $600 worth of shit to their Glocks and don't get me started on AR-15s and 1911s. $1100 is a starting point for "big name" 1911, and it goes up past $4000 easy.
I'm not a big time shooter, but I've shot my share of pistols and bore axis is pretty much THE thing, so just say "better than ANY other" is a big, big deal.
Any new venture is risky, but I'd have considered investing. I'd consider it again. Lots of ideas take a couple of tries.
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329d2c No.684912
>>684908
But the H9 doesn't change bore axis at all, and functions worse than every other $1100 pistol I have ever seen with the sole exception of a Kimber. It's not "better than any other", you fucking moron, the reason the company failed is because of no noticeable improvement coupled with glaring reliability problems. Don't even get me started on your Reddit spacing or necroposting.
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e572b0 No.684919
>>680606
>he doesn't know what metastasis means
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