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Looking forward to the next hotfix, also, orcm is too stingy with his updates as well. Lets critical issues that have long since been fixed just remain in the current public version while he releases like 5 separate hotfixes to patreon.

Rather just download the great mod.

Is the update out yet?

What does this mod do exactly, Anon? Is it updated to the newest official version?

>>372705

It is annoying, especially when I'd rather wait and convert the mod to the latest patreon version so I don't have to try and fix the severe and obvious bugs myself. I get enough of that from the mod itself.

>>372782

Probably tomorrow night; had to bring work home with me and it sidetracked fixing the last of the bugs.

>>372785

Ah, my apologies. I didn't even think to add that. With such a small community on the site (nowadays), I figured the only ones interested would be the ones already aware of the mod.

Features

Adds a new option called Loaded Dice under the inventory. Simply right-click/double-click the option to view the menu for the mod.

Patreon Mode

Allows you to choose the patreon mod you want. No matter what, it defaults to blacktouch/transformed so the baseline patreon content can be accessed(such as super negative traits).

Character Creation

Select CHEAT when at the full custom character creation will allow you to choose a couple of options. This includes increasing trait selection to allow for you to take them all, resetting the value of negatives to allow for more to be taken, and allowing for limitless Aspect acquisition.

The last of which is, for the time being, permanent.

RNG/Dice Mod

Allows you to control the result of an event/assignment, so they always come out as crit success, success, fail, disaster, or even remove the chance of a disaster outcome while allowing the rest of the options to persist as normal.

Biomancy Mod

An option that allows you to ensure that biomancy succeeds, as well as allowing you to choose the target. This makes backfiring or using biomancy on yourself marginally easier.

Also adds the Race Change and Create Futa options, something I felt was long overdue in the base game. Which, really, while it was a hassle, there is no reason they shouldn't be added yet.

Oh, and futa cock shrinking. Strangely enough, this is impossible in the base game.

Currently the exceptional outcome works most of the time. Some biomancy options don't use this modifier, and while it shouldn't interact with them, it can cause issues.

Corruption Mod

Similarly to Biomancy, this mod allows you to set the target, but also adds additional menus when attempting to use corruption, so the player can choose the exact outcome. However, using this does require a touch of foresight. Some corruptions don't work on certain people for obvious reasons, such as trying to remove a trait they don't have, or enlarging wings when they don't have any, etc. Just be rational.

Add gold and supplies

As it says. Located under Quality of Life.

Add to the Slavers/Slaves Total

Allows you to manually increase the maximum number of Slavers/Slaves you can have. Located under Quality of Life.

Dominate/Hypnosis Mod

Allows for the player to hardlock Domination and Hypnosis, ensuring they either always succeed, or fail (to allow easier access for Slaver Takeover events). Comes with an anti-mind break option for use with Dominate, should you desire to avoid turning your slavers into mindless slabs of meat.

Reset Day

Does as the name implies. Resets the day so one time events can be done several times without going through the new day wall of text.

Respect Mod

Locks Slaver respect so they always agree with you. Unless it's an event controlled by other variables (a slaver can refuse a position or sex for reasons beyond respect), then the slaver should agree with your whims.

Crafting Mod

Adds an option under Encampment for your slaves/slavers to craft equipment and potions upon your request. While still a work in progress as I try and allow for softlocking when designing the clothes you want, it does function.

Leader Slavery

The most experimental mod at the moment.

Adds an option for sending you, the PC, the lead slaver, through slave training. Your slaver has to have a submissive trait (secretly submissive or obedient) to be able to turn it on.

A fair warning! There are bugs and it is not a flawless option. As it is, it's going to take a few updates before something that is usable released.

>>372816

The corruption mod is very unreliable. A lot of times corruption will fail for no obvious reason. The Sinful Enlightenment Aspects basically don't work? When I tried it arch practitioner granted mad schemer instead, practitioner did nothing. I couldn't get debauched exaltation juggernaut or cloak of living shadow to work. For some reason while Anointed One and Inquisitor normally work, if I tried to use them AFTER extensive (modded) biomancy they did not work. Appearance changes also often didn't work after biomancy.

Once in a while the guaranteed success just fails and the corruption or biomancy works the next attempt. Exceptional results from Biomancy don't always work even when they should and are "guaranteed". Sometimes I'll get a double and sometimes I won't, even loading the same character and trying again. Seems to work fine for effects that can only succeed on exceptional results.

>>372875

Good thing my job took time away from the mod, or I'd have posted the update without catching your bug report.

Define very unreliable and a lot; is it failing 4/5 times or 2/5? If the prior then that's an issue I'll need more information on in order to replicate, however the latter is, for the foreseeable future, normal. There's a very long reason why, but it boils down to how corruptions framework is handled. If I place too many hardlocks in to prevent failures, then corruption will crash the game. Failures and loops are used by bedlam as an "oh shit" mechanic, which is necessary with something like RAGS. Right now, until I find a way around that, the best I can do is ensure that the desired target is targeted, and that it succeeds under normal circumstances. Normal meaning that the target can be affected by the specific outcome.

Arch-Practitioner causing mad schemes is certainly quird. I'll take a look at it and see if the variables got jumbled somehow.

Practitioner requires the character to have magic in their character description(so does arch, but that's not relevant). It's sounds rude to ask (to some), but I do need to double check if you were aware and if your target possessed that quality. That's the only requirement left in place for it, and if it's not firing despite meeting that requirement, then there's another issue afoot.

Juggernaut as well has prerequisites, but I can't quite recall exactly what they are, I'll have to take a look once I'm off work. Till then, and unless I'm confusing it with another trait, I believe the subject can't be taller than 7, which, as numerical values aren't tracked, is two below max height, a feat measurable through biomancy's size manipulation.

Cloak of Living Shadows… This thing was a problem back in the early days of the mod. However, that was different than your issue.

As it applies it's own prerequisite trait (stealth) so there shouldn't be any reason it isn't firing unless there is a problem with the corruption dice. I'll take a look.

Which changes to their appearance are you making with biomancy, and which are you attempting with corruption? The two don't overlap (much, and only under specific conditions), and as such shouldn't be causing one to prevent the other. If anything, the latter would overwrite the priors changes.

Biomancy being the cause of anointed one and inquisitor failing seems strange, as neither are physical traits. Hell, I don't even think either of them have any prerequisites. They're pretty basic as far as Aspects go. Do you remember what changes you made to the target before attempting to grant them either trait?

"fails and then succeeds"; I've been trying to figure that one out. I've no idea what causes it other than the common rags issue issue of missing timer executes and skipping to the end. Yet, while it does happen with the base game, it's significantly more frequent with the mod in place. I probably won't get this fixed by the next update, but it is known and is being worked on.

I did mention that biomancy's Exceptional are a touch fucky. The reason it works fine for results that can only succeed on exceptional results is because that's all exceptional does; allows for those events to procc. Normally they're random and can even happen when using the mod for normal biomancy, but it's low chance. Hence the option.

Unfortunately, it can cause grief with other functions in biomancy, something I've been trying to find a workaround for, it's just proving a challenge finding a method that doesn't cause more issues.

I wrote this up pretty quickly, so I missed a detail you brought up, my apologies. I'll get to it as soon I am able.

Otherwise, thank you very much for your bug report and I'll make every attempt to correct them.

Is this for pc or just for android?

>>373249

For ZX Spectrum

>>373249

In fairness to you, you person, RAGS should be capitalized in the OP, but even the people who made it don't do that consistently any longer.

can someone tell me if they can use clothing, whenever I try it tells me "You don't currently have any clothing in the encampment stash."

Anybody got the latest Patreon TF build?Anybody got the latest Patreon TF build?

>>372617

The Idea for the Game is still great but fuck me, is RAGS a piece of shit system for any game that's bigger than a linear story.

Link's broken. Got a new one?

>>373976

The arguments I've heard for not moving to a new engine are either "that engine isn't any better for this" for easy text engines like Inform and Twine (which is pretty much true) and "it's better for him to focus on updates rather than porting," which is true if he's has no time to learn Godot or something. There are probably fucking VN engines that could do this game better than this, though, and at least with something like Twine you CAN work outside its limitations, even if it's janky. I like an awful lot of the ideas this game uses, too.

>>373976

RAGS is a piece of shit system regardless of what it's being used for. The loading times alone…

>>373976

>>373996

He's doing a conversion to Twine

>>373996

>>374006

Seriously, a large portion of his streams on picarto are dedicated solely to the twine conversion, and at various places where the game is discussed that fact is mentioned.

If anyone has been 'defending the dev's "decision" to "avoid porting away from RAGs" then that person is a retard who doesn't know what they're talking about. If you are just making shit up based off of half-baked ideas from barely reading what other people wrote about the in-progress twine conversion but still developing on RAGs at the same time to keep patreon from sinking, then you are the retard.

>>374006

>>374012

If the conversion is already in progress, can't he at least post an alpha or a proof of concept for how the game might look/work? That would also placate people who don't want to deal with this game because of the engine.

>>373996

Btw, why twine? I mean, maybe it's just my opinion but twine has the habit of becoming unstable and laggy once there are a few variables to calculate (see Free Cities late game). Gonna be honest, I only played the game for a few hours, so I haven't seen much of the content but couldn't you do the same in RenPy?

>>374024

People have made brothel-like slave trainer games in Ren'Py, yeah. It's still not really the best tool for this kind of thing, since the text and menus are the main game UI and the images are important but not really related to the gameflow. Then again, people do all sorts of things in various visual novel engines. My guess as to why Twine was used is that it's easy to learn, but I'm guessing he's going to have to take the FS route and do a bunch of the work outside of what the framework provides.

>>374012

That's good to hear. If people would say that somewhere in the thread before people started crying about it, maybe we could have more discussion about the game beyond "UI bad."

>>374026

Any idea for when he plans to make the first twine release then?

>>374024

He has done twine conversion work on his other game, whorelocks, as well, and posted wip builds of that publicly.

I think that the no_haven twine build is both quite far from the full complexity of the RAGs build, and also barred to patreon patrons, of which I am not part of.

Speculating based on the whorelocks conversion, the UI will probably be somewhat better, and the loading times immensely better, once everything is in place, but UI and menu design I would say aren't one of orcm's strength as a developer, so that will probably still be ultimately lacking.

But regardless of all that, i'm still a fan of no_haven as a game conceptually and as a player, I think orcm has arbitrary GM syndrome to an extent because he's passionate about the world he's creating, and that leads to certain problems between him and the autistic patrons he has to pander to in order to make money. I feel for him tbh, not an easy position to be in.

Still would be nice if he would actually just release the public builds when they are made rather than making me wait for a patron build to be leaked. Pain in the ass considering the fucking awful bugs that are sometimes present between builds.

Every version of RAGS I have tried eliminates any HTML formatting, even the newest one.

>>372912

Which version is being used here? Or is this a compatibility issue that I just now realized and maybe someone who comes after will read this and remember to try compatibility mode.

I got pissed off at the RAGS being used in this game and ended up making my own clone of this.

Here's what I got so far:

https://medium.com/@kerrygotten/proxima-introduction-28b683569efa

Anyone like?

>>375620

I was with you until I saw "Card game". Hard pass from me, but I despise these new "card games" popping up with an ardent fervor. Besides that, doesn't sound like something I would enjoy until a modder got their hands on it and eschewed a lot of what you're aiming to do judging from your fetish section that you called "philosophical preferences" for some hilarious reason.

>>375620

For some reason the video embed is super low res. Here's a direct link to the streamable with higher res: https://streamable.com/s/bpov2

>>375624

Thanks anon

>>375625

If it helps the card game just describes the UI and the way that the information is organized into "cards". But it's not at all like magic or yugioh, the way it plays is just like no haven, there's no collecting or deck building or anything like that. Your comment is making me reconsider using the term card game as it may be misleading.

Just curious what parts of my fetishes or preferences haha you're not into. Of course I expect my specific combination of preferences to only hit a certain niche, but would like to hear feedback on what people like in general.

>>375655

Actually that link is still f'ed. https://streamable.com/bpov2

>>375620

Honestly, quite amazing. Could be because you've managed to hit all the right chords with me, could be because you know how to present information in a nice way. My only criticism is the 'card game' part. But I see that you've already took a note of it, so it's all good.

I really hope you know what you're doing, because so far it seems like you do, but further down the line it'd be a shame for Proxima to turn into but another bundle of empty promises, and crush hopes of its fanbase.

Also, if I want to help but am broke af is there any way to contact you and stuff? If nothing else, we seem to be quite like minded and you could enjoy the feedback.

>>375659

Thanks for the comment, your positive reaction is very encouraging. Started a discord:

https://discord.gg/eXMX9Cs

I would absolutely love to talk to people who like this concept.

>>375620

>No prostitution

yeah I'm thinking it's based. honestly great job, very well presented and makes it look like you know what you're doing

>>375620

yeah, card game doesn't feel like the right word and will turn a lot of people off of it imo. I usually hate patreon, but it'd be pretty cool to watch as this grows. i'm going to hold off on anything until there's some sort of demo, even just a tech one though.

>>375655

Slaves are commodities, not people. I have no interest in developing interest or attachment to commodities. Lack of prostitution and overall tone tells me there's gonna be some sort of bullshit romance bullshit or benevolent master bullshit and that's all bullshit to me and a waste of my time. Call me edgy if you want, but it's a "slavery" game. Call it something else like Harem Builder or someshit. You'd probably go far with a name like that, rake in those paymeton bux. You can be HaremBuilderDev.

>>375659

Thanks for suggesting contact, that got me to make the discord and it's popping now. Are you on it yet?

>>375683

Thanks yeah, I'm going around removing the card game term from the presented material.

>>375680

Thanks awesome.

>>375697

>>375699

I actually generally prefer edge too, torturing slaves and treating them like shit etc is the whole point of this thing really. You can still prostitute them if you want, just me personally it doesn't feel like my ideal power fantasy if I need to rent them out for money, makes me feel weak? Like I'm still in the rat race giving my women to other dudes who I'm serving. I think it's hot if the person you're treating as a commodity has high external value in other context, then owning her as a slave is a huge signal of your power. But I understand the other perspective too, if she never has any value and is utter garbage. For sure both types of slaves are represented in this game, and prostitution is still available if you're into that.

I don't intend to write anything along the lines of romancing slaves. The romance I envision is more like tricking employees into falling in love with you so you can turn them into slaves.

Procedurally generated stuff should be finished first before scripted content as I view that as easier. Scripted content will be filled in over time, we'll see how far we get with that. I posted on cuckchan and people there are very character > gameplay. https://boards.cuckchan.org/aco/thread/3922833#p3924719

>>375724

I think the best thing you can do anon is get a WIP and post it here and you'll get harsh but fair but harsh feedback and depending on how difficult it was you can move onward. Christ, if you get lucky and it's half-decent you could become one of the patreon dudes we all shit on raking in thousands every month and never updating shit! The dream!

>>375742

That's called hook up culture, we already have this IRL.

>>375724

>I posted on cuckchan and people there are very character > gameplay

Those are just /weg/-specific tastes, even /weg2d/ barely if ever talks about No Haven. Sounds like you have the right approach though given your replies to them, especially that full sex scene art would be prohibitively expensive at this stage and not primarily what you are aiming for anyway.

>>375742

Does your last name end in 'berg' or 'stein'?

>>375532

2.4.16.0, exactly what the game says it's designed for.

Anyone have 0.90?

Here's an update for No Haven, both base game and Loaded Dice. Friendly reminder that it is standalone, so choose whichever one you want to use.

Base (changelog is in the zip): http://www.mediafire.com/file/6imdqcouwaw16k5/No_Haven_0.90_-_TF.zip

Loaded Dice: https://mega.nz/#!TFhzlaAA!F1apbL8yiS-QWrhPqCX2EgjWUprwWVGC9jDAWAXOQnw

Changelog:

-Update to new game version.

-Minor fixes to misc. things.

Sorry I haven't updated the mod here (or in general) in a while. I will try and be more consistent with the updates. After I'm done being sick.

>>375620

Cool. Looks like it could be a fun project.

>>376160

nice thanks

Anyone figure out what the hidden reward in the new assignment Wayward Temptations is? Is it perhaps Kaara herself if you have anointed? I already had Kaara and merely received a Veteran Biomancer.

New to this game and it's hard to get any info on RAGS so:

How do i check the player stats? (There's a Player stats under the stats option but it shows nothing)

How do i learn corruption or hypnosis if i didnt choose it at the start without cheating?

>>376355

Can't help you with your second question, but most things are done in this particular game by right-clicking on stuff because it has a very nonstandard way of using RAGS's interface. Right click on your portrait and examine yourself, and I think that gives you all the info you can get on yourself.

I very much like the qualitative trait-based system for successes and so on in this game. It's a refreshing change from strictly numerical systems and if I were to make a game I'd probably steal it. It results in an awful lot of comparing abbreviations, though, which gets very old after an hour or two.

Does anyone know the qualities of clothing and armor? I believe epic is the best type, but I'm not sure.

Call me a retard but how do I pick assignments and send slavers into doing these assignments, like Slaving and such?

>>376947

Forget it, game was just broken, had to make a new game it seems

>>375655

>>375656

>Strategy

>For min-max players

Nice try. By this alone I can tell the game design is garbage.

Is this still broken garbage?

>>377779

Nah, they fixed absolutely everything. Changed engine, rewrote all the code, redid the gameplay to not be a fucking diceroll and even added a full 3D world to explore!

Of course it's still a broken mess, you could figure that out with a single google search to see the development.

how much content is in the game currently?

fucked around for a few hours just raiding/slaving, but is there anything more than that?

>>377786

This, look up the fixed dice version so you can rig the assignments to actually fucking succeed after your slavers end up hitting that 5% chance to get a disaster result that leads to them being wounded or lost for the fifth time in a row.

Loaded Dice for this new update? 0.91 I believe

https://nopy.to/KwWdBz7m/No_Haven_0.91.zip

>>377996

If you were answering >>377991 I already have the game, wanted the Loaded Dice version.

I know it released recently and takes a while to mod that in but I don't know how long it takes.

>>377786

as long as it's in RAGS it will be a broken mess

>>377997

bump

https://www2.zippyshare.com/v/sl2FzZxs/file.html

>>378221

Thank you.

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