No.372617 [View All]
Rags Game based around rolling dice.
Slavery and other sexy elements may also occur.
Old thread filled up before I could post it, so here ya all go.
Link to Loaded Dice: https://mega.nz/#!aMhmyYqK!lg3101nQ_Ejgu8hcUVuNnzthGVJHiROrCC3n5fvpn8c
Changelog:
V4.7
-General Update and misc. bug fixes.
-Redundant code removed.
-Fixed base game bugs.
-Gold, Supplies, and Slave/Slaver Total are now all contained under Quality of Life.
-Started work on smoothing the menus and making it more user friendly.
-Biomancy and Corruption got streamlined a little. Just assume this always happens.
-Clothing Generator should be a bit more reliable now that I've nerfed its RNG. However, still expect to not get what you want.
-New Feature: PC Slave Training. Extra beta and buggy. It works, but in a way that it shouldn't.
Next Update should be so soon that it might not be worth it to download.
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No.373995
Link's broken. Got a new one?
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No.373996
>>373976
The arguments I've heard for not moving to a new engine are either "that engine isn't any better for this" for easy text engines like Inform and Twine (which is pretty much true) and "it's better for him to focus on updates rather than porting," which is true if he's has no time to learn Godot or something. There are probably fucking VN engines that could do this game better than this, though, and at least with something like Twine you CAN work outside its limitations, even if it's janky. I like an awful lot of the ideas this game uses, too.
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No.374005
>>373976
RAGS is a piece of shit system regardless of what it's being used for. The loading times alone…
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No.374006
>>373976
>>373996
He's doing a conversion to Twine
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No.374012
>>373996
>>374006
Seriously, a large portion of his streams on picarto are dedicated solely to the twine conversion, and at various places where the game is discussed that fact is mentioned.
If anyone has been 'defending the dev's "decision" to "avoid porting away from RAGs" then that person is a retard who doesn't know what they're talking about. If you are just making shit up based off of half-baked ideas from barely reading what other people wrote about the in-progress twine conversion but still developing on RAGs at the same time to keep patreon from sinking, then you are the retard.
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No.374024
>>374006
>>374012
If the conversion is already in progress, can't he at least post an alpha or a proof of concept for how the game might look/work? That would also placate people who don't want to deal with this game because of the engine.
>>373996
Btw, why twine? I mean, maybe it's just my opinion but twine has the habit of becoming unstable and laggy once there are a few variables to calculate (see Free Cities late game). Gonna be honest, I only played the game for a few hours, so I haven't seen much of the content but couldn't you do the same in RenPy?
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No.374026
>>374024
People have made brothel-like slave trainer games in Ren'Py, yeah. It's still not really the best tool for this kind of thing, since the text and menus are the main game UI and the images are important but not really related to the gameflow. Then again, people do all sorts of things in various visual novel engines. My guess as to why Twine was used is that it's easy to learn, but I'm guessing he's going to have to take the FS route and do a bunch of the work outside of what the framework provides.
>>374012
That's good to hear. If people would say that somewhere in the thread before people started crying about it, maybe we could have more discussion about the game beyond "UI bad."
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No.374027
>>374026
Any idea for when he plans to make the first twine release then?
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No.374029
>>374024
He has done twine conversion work on his other game, whorelocks, as well, and posted wip builds of that publicly.
I think that the no_haven twine build is both quite far from the full complexity of the RAGs build, and also barred to patreon patrons, of which I am not part of.
Speculating based on the whorelocks conversion, the UI will probably be somewhat better, and the loading times immensely better, once everything is in place, but UI and menu design I would say aren't one of orcm's strength as a developer, so that will probably still be ultimately lacking.
But regardless of all that, i'm still a fan of no_haven as a game conceptually and as a player, I think orcm has arbitrary GM syndrome to an extent because he's passionate about the world he's creating, and that leads to certain problems between him and the autistic patrons he has to pander to in order to make money. I feel for him tbh, not an easy position to be in.
Still would be nice if he would actually just release the public builds when they are made rather than making me wait for a patron build to be leaked. Pain in the ass considering the fucking awful bugs that are sometimes present between builds.
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No.375532
Every version of RAGS I have tried eliminates any HTML formatting, even the newest one.
>>372912
Which version is being used here? Or is this a compatibility issue that I just now realized and maybe someone who comes after will read this and remember to try compatibility mode.
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No.375620
I got pissed off at the RAGS being used in this game and ended up making my own clone of this.
Here's what I got so far:
https://medium.com/@kerrygotten/proxima-introduction-28b683569efa
Anyone like?
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No.375624
>>375620
sounds good to me anon, keep it up.
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No.375625
>>375620
I was with you until I saw "Card game". Hard pass from me, but I despise these new "card games" popping up with an ardent fervor. Besides that, doesn't sound like something I would enjoy until a modder got their hands on it and eschewed a lot of what you're aiming to do judging from your fetish section that you called "philosophical preferences" for some hilarious reason.
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No.375655
>>375620
For some reason the video embed is super low res. Here's a direct link to the streamable with higher res: https://streamable.com/s/bpov2
>>375624
Thanks anon
>>375625
If it helps the card game just describes the UI and the way that the information is organized into "cards". But it's not at all like magic or yugioh, the way it plays is just like no haven, there's no collecting or deck building or anything like that. Your comment is making me reconsider using the term card game as it may be misleading.
Just curious what parts of my fetishes or preferences haha you're not into. Of course I expect my specific combination of preferences to only hit a certain niche, but would like to hear feedback on what people like in general.
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No.375656
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No.375659
>>375620
Honestly, quite amazing. Could be because you've managed to hit all the right chords with me, could be because you know how to present information in a nice way. My only criticism is the 'card game' part. But I see that you've already took a note of it, so it's all good.
I really hope you know what you're doing, because so far it seems like you do, but further down the line it'd be a shame for Proxima to turn into but another bundle of empty promises, and crush hopes of its fanbase.
Also, if I want to help but am broke af is there any way to contact you and stuff? If nothing else, we seem to be quite like minded and you could enjoy the feedback.
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No.375677
>>375659
Thanks for the comment, your positive reaction is very encouraging. Started a discord:
https://discord.gg/eXMX9Cs
I would absolutely love to talk to people who like this concept.
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No.375680
>>375620
>No prostitution
yeah I'm thinking it's based. honestly great job, very well presented and makes it look like you know what you're doing
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No.375683
>>375620
yeah, card game doesn't feel like the right word and will turn a lot of people off of it imo. I usually hate patreon, but it'd be pretty cool to watch as this grows. i'm going to hold off on anything until there's some sort of demo, even just a tech one though.
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No.375697
>>375655
Slaves are commodities, not people. I have no interest in developing interest or attachment to commodities. Lack of prostitution and overall tone tells me there's gonna be some sort of bullshit romance bullshit or benevolent master bullshit and that's all bullshit to me and a waste of my time. Call me edgy if you want, but it's a "slavery" game. Call it something else like Harem Builder or someshit. You'd probably go far with a name like that, rake in those paymeton bux. You can be HaremBuilderDev.
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No.375699
>>375655
throw me in as another that really likes what you're going for. every time i play FC i always end up doing picrelated. although, i do worry about the idea of scripted characters. you can never really flesh them out all that much in games like this and it seems like you'd be better off just focusing on procedurally generated stuff.
also, the option to do stuff like >>375697 wants should probably be included. while the majority of my slaves get treated well, assuming the procedural generation is good, there are going to be situations where you want to "punish" and be able to treat the ones you don't like poorly as well. godspeed to you whatever direction you take, though.
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No.375724
>>375659
Thanks for suggesting contact, that got me to make the discord and it's popping now. Are you on it yet?
>>375683
Thanks yeah, I'm going around removing the card game term from the presented material.
>>375680
Thanks awesome.
>>375697
>>375699
I actually generally prefer edge too, torturing slaves and treating them like shit etc is the whole point of this thing really. You can still prostitute them if you want, just me personally it doesn't feel like my ideal power fantasy if I need to rent them out for money, makes me feel weak? Like I'm still in the rat race giving my women to other dudes who I'm serving. I think it's hot if the person you're treating as a commodity has high external value in other context, then owning her as a slave is a huge signal of your power. But I understand the other perspective too, if she never has any value and is utter garbage. For sure both types of slaves are represented in this game, and prostitution is still available if you're into that.
I don't intend to write anything along the lines of romancing slaves. The romance I envision is more like tricking employees into falling in love with you so you can turn them into slaves.
Procedurally generated stuff should be finished first before scripted content as I view that as easier. Scripted content will be filled in over time, we'll see how far we get with that. I posted on cuckchan and people there are very character > gameplay. https://boards.cuckchan.org/aco/thread/3922833#p3924719
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No.375728
>>375724
I think the best thing you can do anon is get a WIP and post it here and you'll get harsh but fair but harsh feedback and depending on how difficult it was you can move onward. Christ, if you get lucky and it's half-decent you could become one of the patreon dudes we all shit on raking in thousands every month and never updating shit! The dream!
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No.375742
>>375724
I prefer the idea of having a sex empire but every step is willing. No mind control bullshit, no torture into madness, simply exploitation of human urges, wistful wants, comprimises and ideals.
The idea is temptation. To slowly but surely change society itself into WANTING to do all of the lewd shit. As in, you're at the bus stop, you have a nice little conversation with someone, and go "Hey, wanna fuck?" and they respond "Eh, why not?". Not by torturing them into stupidity, but by educating them into perversions that they conceive of themselves. To make the act of sex casual, make people easy and so on.
And then with that "perverted society", going out into the stars to spread the ideal. No one's tricked, you simply present the better dick. And it'll be a beneficial thing. Otherwise why would people agree to it?
"It isn't rape if it's willing": The society. And if you think it's a utopia at that point then hahahahaha no. There's always issues. But you're at the point where you can just bang whoever you want if you're bored. Like ordering a burger, or in the middle of a simple chat.
It isn't a big deal to anyone. You can just fuck and do what you want. And it leaves you free to emotionally connect with people you want to get into a relationship with over simple hobbies you like to do besides fucking. Completely unbound by all societal baggage and bullshit.
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No.375758
>>375742
That's called hook up culture, we already have this IRL.
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No.375778
>>375724
>I posted on cuckchan and people there are very character > gameplay
Those are just /weg/-specific tastes, even /weg2d/ barely if ever talks about No Haven. Sounds like you have the right approach though given your replies to them, especially that full sex scene art would be prohibitively expensive at this stage and not primarily what you are aiming for anyway.
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No.375806
>>375742
Does your last name end in 'berg' or 'stein'?
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No.376113
>>375532
2.4.16.0, exactly what the game says it's designed for.
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No.376114
>>375742
Consent is boring.
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No.376126 
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No.376160
Here's an update for No Haven, both base game and Loaded Dice. Friendly reminder that it is standalone, so choose whichever one you want to use.
Base (changelog is in the zip): http://www.mediafire.com/file/6imdqcouwaw16k5/No_Haven_0.90_-_TF.zip
Loaded Dice: https://mega.nz/#!TFhzlaAA!F1apbL8yiS-QWrhPqCX2EgjWUprwWVGC9jDAWAXOQnw
Changelog:
-Update to new game version.
-Minor fixes to misc. things.
Sorry I haven't updated the mod here (or in general) in a while. I will try and be more consistent with the updates. After I'm done being sick.
>>375620
Cool. Looks like it could be a fun project.
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No.376205
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No.376259
Anyone figure out what the hidden reward in the new assignment Wayward Temptations is? Is it perhaps Kaara herself if you have anointed? I already had Kaara and merely received a Veteran Biomancer.
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No.376355
New to this game and it's hard to get any info on RAGS so:
How do i check the player stats? (There's a Player stats under the stats option but it shows nothing)
How do i learn corruption or hypnosis if i didnt choose it at the start without cheating?
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No.376385
>>376355
Can't help you with your second question, but most things are done in this particular game by right-clicking on stuff because it has a very nonstandard way of using RAGS's interface. Right click on your portrait and examine yourself, and I think that gives you all the info you can get on yourself.
I very much like the qualitative trait-based system for successes and so on in this game. It's a refreshing change from strictly numerical systems and if I were to make a game I'd probably steal it. It results in an awful lot of comparing abbreviations, though, which gets very old after an hour or two.
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No.376832
Does anyone know the qualities of clothing and armor? I believe epic is the best type, but I'm not sure.
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No.376947
Call me a retard but how do I pick assignments and send slavers into doing these assignments, like Slaving and such?
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No.376950
>>376947
Forget it, game was just broken, had to make a new game it seems
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No.377667
>>375655
>>375656
>Strategy
>For min-max players
Nice try. By this alone I can tell the game design is garbage.
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No.377779
Is this still broken garbage?
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No.377786
>>377779
Nah, they fixed absolutely everything. Changed engine, rewrote all the code, redid the gameplay to not be a fucking diceroll and even added a full 3D world to explore!
Of course it's still a broken mess, you could figure that out with a single google search to see the development.
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No.377928
how much content is in the game currently?
fucked around for a few hours just raiding/slaving, but is there anything more than that?
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No.377980
>>377786
This, look up the fixed dice version so you can rig the assignments to actually fucking succeed after your slavers end up hitting that 5% chance to get a disaster result that leads to them being wounded or lost for the fifth time in a row.
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No.377991
Loaded Dice for this new update? 0.91 I believe
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No.377996
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No.377997
>>377996
If you were answering >>377991 I already have the game, wanted the Loaded Dice version.
I know it released recently and takes a while to mod that in but I don't know how long it takes.
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No.378016
>>377786
as long as it's in RAGS it will be a broken mess
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No.378064
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No.378221
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No.379385
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