/fit/ - Fitness, Health, and Feels

just stop doing anything, this board is extremely slow, it doesn't need bumplocks, just let it be

and only have the "## Board Owner" thing attached to your post when necessary like in a meta thread, blend in with everyone else otherwise

>>139184

>it doesn't need bumplocks

I'm listening; your request is understood. However, currently I disagree that the amount of bumplocks needed is 0 in quantity. That's okay; it is possible for me to change my mind. Perhaps it would be possible to get to the heart of the matter if you linked to your least favorite instance of bumplocking or any particular one that can be used to extrapolate a general guideline of when to refrain from bumplocking.

>and only have the "## Board Owner" thing attached to your post when necessary like in a meta thread

What is your least favorite example of when I have used the ## Board Owner name tag? As a general rule, I prefer to use it when making statements about board policy (so readers understand why particular actions were taken) or when meta discussion is happening (because the topic might be about me). There has been a lot of meta discussion lately. If you don't want me to show up under the ## Board Owner name, don't summon me. I reserve the right to comment under the ## Board Owner name when explaining why your thread is bumplocked. I might even explain it in a childish manner so as to mock you when doing so, because I'm having fun. (You should be having fun also. Why aren't you?) Don't mistake that as me being a person with an unchangeable mind who doesn't listen. I might even admit to wrongdoing if you explain it to me.

I'm listening, but you haven't given me much to consider. From specific examples, I can learn to generalize policies though.

>>139184

Btw, feel free to locally report (!) ## Board Owner posts if you think they are unnecessary namefagging or attention whoring. I might dismiss it if I am explaining board policy or why certain actions were taken, but it'll give me a moment of reflection.

1.) why tf was >>138746 made a cyclical?

2.) no need to show up and be a capfag unless absolutely necessary (such as BTFOing a monkey on a fixie)

3.) stop anchoring so many threads

4.) turn on board logs (not even sure why that's still optional at this point)

>>139187

>1.) why tf was >>138746 (You) made a cyclical?

Knowing the way the BO/vol buttons work, he likely meant to hit either edit or lock, and fucked up.

>>139187

>1.) why tf was >>138746 made a cyclical?

Partly as a joke, as I doubt such a thread would reach the bump limit. It could become a storytime general though, since many visitors are very enthusiastic about blogging.

>2.) no need to show up and be a capfag unless absolutely necessary (such as BTFOing a monkey on a fixie)

I generally agree that capfagging should be minimized, but perhaps address the statements I made about why I do it in this post >>139185 in order to make a better case against the times I have used it so far.

>3.) stop anchoring so many threads

Again see this post >>139185 If you call out a specific thread that you hated to see bumplocked, I can generalize when I should exercise restraint.

>4.) turn on board logs (not even sure why that's still optional at this point)

Request granted. Additionally, I checked the box that makes board bans public.

>>139190

I find your response strange. Why not link to a thread you wish wasn't bumplocked if the matter is important to you?

>>139190

>Fitness, Health, and Feels

I changed the title in response to this. It's not as catchy, but if Feels implies /b/-tier catalog, then perhaps it's time for a change.

What happened to the previos BO? Did you usurp both his gainz and his throne as a BO? Explain this shit to us.

>>139195

Okay, it's really simple. If you don't login for a while, you forfeit your ownership of the board and anybody can claim it through email. Since I frequently lurked, and somebody posted this thead >>138629 I decided I would claim it because I was primarily tired of seeing Discord spam and was also interested in eventually releasing the Info images sticky so a new one could be made. I also favor promoting /fit/ related threads by bumplocking offtopic ones, but that aspect of my privileges isn't as important to me as maintaining two stickies and whatever custom board pages I or the community can come up with.

>>139198

>But thou ist a cvckold.

But are you able to name a single instance of cuck-like behavior? This inability to be specific is a chronic habit of complainers lately. If it continues, I'll assume most of those complaining either don't know what they want (shocking!) or are doing something not unlike concern trolling. Complaints full of hot air are to be ignored, and talking a whole lot without saying anything at all is to be laughed at.

>>139199

>>139197

>>139194

Your whole response is exactly why anons are calling you a soyboy who doesn't fucking get it. /fit/ was always 90% feels, 10% actual /fit/ness. You're like a federal government worker or sheriff from out-of-town who got a position that nobody wanted filled, and wondering why anons are upset that you're pushing your outsider bullshit on us. You don't belong here, BO. Plain and simple. You can transform this place to whatever the fuck you want, you're the BO, but the original inhabitants will just move away while the board dries up into a husk. Go import a bunch of redditors since your new ass doesn't and never did get it.

>>139201

>wondering why anons are upset

No, I see exactly what is going on here. I'm just giving those with good reasons to object to my actions an opportunity to have their opinions heard. You didn't want to talk about health and fitness? Why the fuck are you here? This isn't 4chan.org/fit/. These aren't the good ol' days. This is what it is—a big joke. Nobody cares if you don't get it.

>the original inhabitants will just move away while the board dries up into a husk

Sounds good to me. If you wanted /b/ or /r9k/ why weren't you posting there to begin with? Health & fitness are the topics here. If nobody is interested in that, what is there to talk about on this board? If everyone leaves, it will just shatter the illusion that there ever existed a group of people interested in health and fitness on this website. Are muscular, weightlifting, aesthetic, steroid users the only people capable of understanding your feels?

>>>/sudo/80058

This is a neat thread. I figured you guys would like it since you enjoy complaining.

All the bumplocked threads are completely off topic or have no value, I'd just delete them.

>>139209

>"muh /pol/tards"

You're imagining things. I have never used such a phrase nor do I care that /pol/ users post here and express /pol/-tier opinions here. However, a thread complaining about niggers isn't related to /fit/ just because the story happened on a bicycle. If you make a thread about health and fitness and it leads to complaining about niggers, that's just a natural turn of events. If you make a thread complaining about niggers that is really centered on, well, just niggers—not much to do with health or fitness—why not post it on another board?

What is your first choice for nigger posting? Go on, tell me what feels natural to you:

A) /pol/

B) /b/

C) /r9k/

D) /k/

E) /v/

F) /fit/

If you chose /fit/, congratulations. You've been chosen as the autist that bangs his head against the wall repeatedly because a board has a particular topic of discussion.

>>139210

STFU rulecuck

>>139185

>it would be possible to get to the heart of the matter if you linked to your least favorite instance of bumplocking

all of them, this board has no BO for like weeks and there was no problem, because it's so slow. the unique IDs, PPH, everything is low and the board is slow, there's only a few posts per day. some mildly off-topic bantz is fine, and bumplocking things can make the few threads that are getting any attention sink down the catalog.

>>139230

>all of them

Wrong answer. By repeatedly not being specific, it's safe to assume the complainers here either don't know what they want, realize that none of the threads in question are defensible and deserving removal of the bumplock, or are doing something akin to concern trolling just to make a big fuss about nothing. If you can defend all of the threads, you can make a case for one thread, so either do it or expect to be ignored.

>it's so slow

>bumplocking things can make the few threads that are getting any attention sink down the catalog

Do you realize these two statements are at odds with each other? If it's so slow, bumplocked threads will stay on page 1 & 2 for ages. You can continue merily chatting away in them for a good long time. I'm not going to stop you. All the bumplocks do is let on topic threads have priority in the catalog.

Btw, nigger posting is fine here. Let's just not clutter the catalog with off-topic noise. That's why the designated storytime nigger posting thread exists:

>>138746

Off-topic questions could just as well go here:

>>139020

(It's often used for noob questions, but noobs making on topic threads isn't nearly as worthless as countless off-topic threads cluttering the catalog.)

>waaaahh, no step on snek

While you spergs were busy baaawwing your little eyes out about tyranny, you were free---from the beginning of my reign---to do all the same things you've been doing except in a tidy manner. If you ever see a thread with a cyclical tag, it's a hint it might be a general you can go play in while the big boys talk about health and fitness. If an appropriate general doesn't exist either setup your thread as a general from the beginning or ask if unsure if it would be appropriate for the board. You can do stupid stuff like a /fit/ video game general. I don't care. Just don't make an individual thread dedicated solely to the latest DBZ game because it motivated you to do 5 pushups.

>>139261

>>139261

I didn't touch the banners. Whatever state you see them in is how they were when I acquired the board. Don't make up bullshit. If you think some are missing, post them. I see no reason not to add any missing banners back unless there isn't room.

I decided to anchor >>139339

Offhand, I don't think cross-board drama is really that important to /fit/. The post is very meta-8chan-tier and also political. I'm pretty sure /leftypol/ is allergic to making it anyways. This is the first post of this type I recall seeing lately, so let me know if it's important to you that /fit/ be active and invested in cross-board matters. Any bumplock can potentially be reversed when good reasons are given.

>>139341

Thanks for giving the thread a chance and not just deleting it.

Worst case scenario the manufactured controversy stirs up some interest in the 8chan Cup, which is a good thing for the site as a whole.

>>139343

I don't normally delete threads. If you check the logs, there is a thread I just deleted, but I primarily use bumplocks if I think the thread is offtopic or unnecessary.

https://8ch.net/log.php?board=fit

>>139404

>Previous BO here

♬

So you're an angel meant to walk down here

And you believe it's all divine

And you don't play by all those temporal rules

You watch the world begin to die

♬[1]

Doesn't even matter to begin with. Instead of coming here under the guise of "Previous BO", it's better to just say what you feel or don't, because there's not a lot of prestige in the BO name, you see. This isn't real life politics, so you may as well be the King of Sweden and get the same response.

>Unfortunately you don't seem to understand /fit/

♬

Like a wheel I keep on turning

Straight ahead, it's got me burning

The melody — the dignity,

Something is speaking to me

Night is cold and my soul is battered

Not afraid for the first time now that I realize

We coincide, I'll never belong to the tribe

And a song is calling me to this ship of fools

♬[2]

I've been charged with similar accusations. The accusers seem to be assuming that anyone who understands /fit/ culture would automatically act as a lemming should he obtain BO privileges. Not only do I have independent tastes, but I also don't care if people are merely upset when I do things differently. I say merely, because I continually extend the opportunity to argue against what I do with reason, and I might reverse decisions or policies in the face of a sound argument. But let there be no illusion between /fit/ and me. There are no rules*. The only policies are what I like—subject to change on a whim—and you are faced with arguing that I might enjoy doing things differently if you do not like my actions. Fortunately, I enjoy /fit/ having relative freedom provided that offtopic posts find themselves in generals instead of cluttering the catalog and that only one meta thread exists at a time—the one stickied.

*Except any and all 8chan global rules.

>I have to assume you were never a /fit/izen

♬

Hm, I'm a stranger,

I'm a changer

And I'm danger…

Maybe

♬[1]

>Learning to exercise isn't that hard

What about learning to lift the heart?

>Most of the board is about what comes with it, the feels, the shared obstacles and experiences, the gym stories, the conversations about things /fit/izens are into, the greentexts, the humor, the hip drahve and the natty gains.

That stuff doesn't need to leave the board. I will continue to prioritize health and fitness topics, however.

>micromanaging conversations

While I continue to act primarily on the level of the catalog, there is no “micromanagement” because there is no management. I don’t entertain illusions of control. I’m only a monkey riding a wild animal. That wild animal may get angry, try to buck the monkey off, and run around like mad, or it could make peace or friends with the monkey. One situation is funny—the other is joyful and full of wonder.

>namefagging so much and waving ##BO tag for attention

But that’s exactly what the ## Board Owner name is for: attention. I will freely use it as I see fit to explain why I do things. It doesn’t come natural to me to be the silent dictator operating from the shadows but rather to act out in the open without shame. Those bothered by it are just as guilty of paying me attention. What are all those meta threads about? /fit/ can’t seem to get enough of me, so the designated meta sticky is hardly enough for such people.

>Godspeed fit, Maybe the board won't make it, but you will.

♬

You're awake in your darkest dream

I have come for you

And nobody can hear you scream

When I reach for you

♬[3]

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNEtnyAm6S4

[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45_jbDu_3gw

[3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pd98tDYlPOk

>>139417

Never has delusional cringe been refined into such a pure form as in this post.

>>139264

>I didn't touch the banners

According to our resident lolcow you did: >>>/rockettits/29

Guess he saw that post.

I recall there being one of some anime cardiobunny's tits bouncing while she ran and another about macaroons that said >bulking or something like that.

>>139423

Make sure to include a copy of the ID with the board owner hashtag in it so people realize how cringeworthy BO is.

>>139424

I just find it to be such a weird claim. I don't think he did an inventory check on the banners right before I became board owner, and I certainly didn't. I wouldn't do such a thing, but I've noticed everyone complaining is faithless and never takes the opportunity to be specific because they probably assume it would be a fruitless endeavor to request a specific thread not be bumplocked. It doesn't help that I say things to deliberately throw people off and make reading my comments a weird experience, but there are no evil thoughts on my end—just happiness, laughter, and perhaps mischief. I had no interest in banners, tbh. It's such a boring thing to fuck with, and I don't do things out of spite.

>>139426

And wouldn't you know it. I just added them back. Simple as that.

>>139428

For some reason

https://banners.8ch.net/list/fit

is not in sync with:

https://sys.8ch.net/mod.php?/banners/fit

No idea why. I guess you'll have to take my word for it until they show up on their own.

>>139428

Shame you can't re-add the ones nobody had backups of you chucklefuck. And still not admiting you removed them. I guess they all just magically vanished along with all the more useful links in the sticky. You taking over at that time was just a coincidence. Even weirder it's the anime and comedy banners that vanish while you just happen to be talking about wanting the board to be more serious and exercise focused. Really gets the noggin joggin

>>139431

>I guess they all just magically vanished

For all I know, they could have. This site is buggy as fuck.

I mean look at this thread:

>>>/sudo/67701

I know it doesn't say anything about banners, but there's no need for bad feels here. Anything could have happened on this website. It's not necessarily a choice between me or the old BO having done it.

>wanting the board to be more serious

I don't want it to be more serious. I hope you guys have fun, tbh. I am. People with health issues are more important to me though, and I like seeing their threads stand out so they can be helped more quickly. That's the only reason I encourage generals over clutter.

>>139433

God-damn you are just plain fucking dumb

>>139434

Monkeys don't think very hard, because monkey minds are a troublesome nuisance.

>>139431

>the more useful links in the sticky

https://ss.fitness/

Simple Science Fitness seems like little more than an advertisement for some program.

http://liamrosen.com/fitness.html

You like this? I skimmed over it. Seems like a lot of bullshit mixed in with good info by some random guru who didn't do his research.

https://pastebin.com/3dddYgvq

just an absolute waste of space.

That's fine though. I'm not going to turn this into a debate over what points those websites and articles get wrong. I just thought nobody would care if those links were missing because they offer little of value, and exrx is a fairly objective database of knowledge. However, if one person asks for the links to be added back I will do so, but specify if you want them in:

>>139165

or

https://8ch.net/fit/links.html

or both.

I'd prefer the sticky to have a brief selection of links and the links.html page to have a collection of many. That's the only difference between the link selection of the two pages. I will put any links requested by the community under a "Community Links" header, and it is definitely the case that community links can go in the sticky. I'm not intending to hide what you contribute under a rug.

>>139438

They are also allowed and encouraged here—in generals. It doesn't need to be in a general if it has an on topic section in the OP or a single health and fitness question. Threads that look like /b/ or /r9k/ posts are encouraged to stay in a general.

>>139439

Eat shit.

>>139440

I hope your board takes off. I said earlier that if the original inhabitants move away, that's absolutely fine by me. This is a test to see if an on topic health and fitness board can exist—that is to say if there are enough people interested in such a thing. If it can't exist, I'm not interested in partaking in /fit/ if it's just some random clubhouse anyway. I can just visit /b/ for that.

>>139442

Translation:

>I'm willing to ruin a legacy board on a whim

>>139443

I absolutely am. That sounds funny. No idea why the community would be that sensitive, but I'm not exactly emotionally invested here—just playing around. I wanted to play with like-minded individuals. If you show me they don't exist, you did me a favor is all.

>>139442

Not with your ass-backwards definition of "on topic". Look at this backpeddling you know what a fool you've made of yourself. Don't pretend like this was ever some /b/teir shitpostfest when you know it wasn't. Keep telling everyone how you don't care and that it'll be our fault for not behaving right when you run away. You're transparent as fuck. If you wanted to test out a board regulated to your whim you should have made a board instead of hijacking one to try and make people pay attention to you and your reddit humor. You are an honest to goodness genuine personification of the gains goblin.

Shoo shoo gains goblin

>>139445

>I'm not exactly emotionally invested here—just playing around

<Therefore I feel that I'm the right person for the BO position

What a fucking shitheel you are

>>139445

http://archive.is/qeeup

>>139445

>I wanted to play with like-minded individuals.

Might I suggest https://www.reddit.com/r/autism/

>>139448

Gotta preserve this comedy gold

>>139016

>>139186

>>139210

>>139242

>>139249

>>139341

>>139417

>>139421

>>139442

>Editing this many posts after the fact

>>139446

>Look at this backpeddling

Name one thing I backpeddled on. I can see what's going on here. You're just a group of very sensitive people that assume the worst at the first sign of change.

>Don't pretend like this was ever some /b/teir shitpostfes

It wasn't really that bad. That's true. I just felt like bumplocking the part I felt matched that description, and still nobody has listed a single thread they want EDIT: unlocked unanchored. So it must mean none were worth saving and they were all the right choices for anchoring.

>make people pay attention

Can't stop sticking your finger in the fire, eh?

>>139447

You could say I subscribe to a variety of nihilism.

>>139448

Oh no, it's archived now. You caught me… doing what exactly? No rules were broken. I didn't stop you from posting or hand out tons of bans. I just triggered you all, acted cringeworthy according to your perspective, and basically said all you valued is worthless to me. Hey, maybe it can be a nice memory when I'm gone. You know, that you no longer have to deal with me. Like, "Fuck that guy. Worse than Moot."

>>139450

I do lots of formatting changes and clarifications of wording.

>>139451

This is cute. I just received a report:

>New BO just admitted to running the board into the ground, Porchmonkey

I'm pretty sure he's not dumb enough to take my statement out of context, but of course, the administration of the website could remove me at any time for any reason. I don't think I've acted against any of their general principles though—just acted like I don't really care about stuff.

It's funny that an autistic new bo is exactly what killed /x/ too.

>>139016

>>139016

You son of a whoring bitch, where in the god damn hell is Scooby?

>>139536

That has been my plan from the beginning. The other sticky is eventually intended to replace it. I'll be revealing a new board page in the future that is meant to work alongside the new sticky. I suggest anyone that appreciates the images in the Info images thread to save what they want in the meantime. It will be allowed to slide off the catalog at some point, and the new sticky will be made cyclical so people can post helpful infographics indefinitely.

>>139540

That is my humor—whether or not you think it's funny. Why do you think I linked you to my thread on /rockettits/ if I were to be embarrassed by my silly language?

>>139541

Jokes on us you were only pretending? What a funny joke to act like a whimp and complain about cyberbullies. We just gotta get on your level

>>139436

>an advertisement for some program

What the fuck? It's a one-stop shop for basic advice across the entire spectrum of fitness supported by a wide range of sources. Easily the best newbie guide online. Put it back in the sticky at least.

>>139542

Why would I "complain about cyberbullies" and then link said "bullies" to my pathetic thread? I was poking fun at you for not believing my statements about the automatic usage of a tripcode caused by the board's settings.

>>139543

Done. It was added to the Links page as well, as almost every link in the sticky needs to be reflected there, but not every link on the Links page needs to be in the sticky. Only one official request (as in a direct request in this thread) is needed to add a link to the list. It just needs to be related to health, fitness, exercise, nutrition, etc.

https://8ch.net/fit/links.html

>>an advertisement for some program

>What the fuck?

I said that because they seem to be all about getting you to sign up so you can see their members only section. My opinion on it doesn't presently matter though. If /fit/ officially requests it, it should be added to the list. It's true that I assumed people were no longer interested in it, and it's true that was a mistake. Everyone is welcome to continue requesting away regarding links in the future.

>>139016

test

>>139704

lol if I was insecure I would delete+ban your whining. That's very possibly someone testing out a proxy or some special setup as they prepare the next wave of spam---maybe not even targeting this board. However, this board is a target of regular spam as strange as it sounds.

What do you want me to do anyways, pin your post on my fridge so nobody can "hide" it? Keep posting it, dude. Nobody gives a shit. Make an entire thread for it if you want. All I'm going to do in that situation is check your post history to make sure you're not spamming and then anchor it if you aren't because we still only need one meta thread 95% of the time. And then if multiple IPs take that as their cue to make whining meta threads all at the same time, I may consider that spam if it reaches a certain threshold.

see this thread: >>139697

I don't care. He's not a spammer, but he made yet another meta thread so it gets anchored. If he posted it in this thread, it would stay on page one. here's another secret: you can get your /fit/ alternative board officially listed in the community links or even in the Board announcement bar if you just ask me (and the list doesn't get too long) instead of acting like you have to instigate some sort of bitter e-rebellion, but let's be honest here, nearly everyone in this thread is too dumb to ask for specific things.

>>139714

>>everyone is dumb but me

I didn't quite say that, but it's true that I consider a lot of people dumb, which is fine with me, because I don't obsess over it long. I've seen how smart people act. They're a very different beast from the average person.

>>why does everyone hate me

I'm not stuck on this question. Is there a reason you think I am? I'm quite comfortable having you and everyone else hate me. (Although, that's not the plan. It's just that whatever happens happens.)

What is this shit?

>>140022

I'm assuming it's spam. There are no other posts by the IP hash and the name field was filled out—presumably because it was posted by someone who never used an imageboard before. I've seen this before, except last time they assumed an email address was required. It links to a youtube video with less than 1000 views and Russian language title. These are signs of drive by spamming by a human operated ad agency in a third world country—not to mention the wording of the subject line for the thread. Just in case, the thread is going to be locked for now, and if nobody objects, delete+ban will occur later today.

>>140490

It should be obvious, but this isn't the dark web. I do not know or care if the file contained a hidden message, but I have no desire to begin checking every file that is posted on this board for secrets even if it's a joke or it just so happens to be the case that critical information is usually automatically stripped by the board's software. If it can't be viewed in a casual, straightforward manner in a web browser, it has no business being on /fit/. The poster who indicated his file should be opened in 7zip was banned for 1 hour this time, because I find it unlikely there were bad intentions. However, if any similar post is made by him again or any indication is made that this is a growing trend, it will be nothing but permanent bans and deletions from here on out.

I don't really want to censor much discussion, but if it can't be said out in the open, maybe you should keep it to yourself.

The accepted way to "hide" things on this website is to use spoilers.

>>140516

>What the fuck happened to the info images thread and why can I not go through it despite it remaining up?

This is a well known bug. The 8chan software stack occasionally glitches and 404s active threads for those who are not logged in as a moderator.

>Did the new Board Owner fuck everything up with their 'improvements' already?

No, I had no intentional involvement in temporarily 404ing that thread. As far as I know, nothing in particular is required for the thread to become glitched like that, but because it's a bug anything is possible and I (or even you) may have triggered it by so much as refreshing the catalog.

If you had taken a moment to read the 404 page, you would have seen this:

>If your board has threads that 404, read this:

>1. Sign in as a Board Volunteer or a Board Owner. If you are just a user, there is a public mod.php account with the following credentials:

>Username: Anyone

>Password: 0

When you login with the Anyone username, you will be able to view any thread that becomes glitched like that. However, this was a simple matter for me to fix, as all I had to do was anchor and unanchor the thread and it became viewable by regular users again. If something of this sort happens again in the future, I encourage you to post about it in this thread where I will take notice sooner. I may not immediately notice a thread is 404ing, as they simply do not 404 from a glitch for users who are logged in.

If the thread had really been deleted or gone truly missing, there is a link to an archived version of it on this page:

https://8ch.net/fit/threads.html

but unless someone goes to the trouble of archiving the links to all the full size images only thumbnails will be available for parts of the thread.

I say we make a new /fit/ to escape our BO's evil clutches.

>>140859

is that a picture jesus levitating a barbell and doing pullups on it?

>>141127

I don't normally delete things outright unless they are spam. I've been using anchors so that discussion can continue and my decision can be reversed in theory.

I'm guilty of not acting quickly on the matter, but I was also curious about how /fit/ would respond to the bait and didn't consider it an emergency. In the meantime, not one report was received nor any complaints in this thread. I understand the lack of reports or complaints isn't explicit approval, but it is funny watching so many chomp down and even bump the thread. I've been eyeing that thread and considering doing something, but first and foremost I've been trying to view it from all angles to make a good judgment. Clearly that person is misguided (or trolling). Currently, I don't consider it my job to save the board from all attempts to bait, nor do I consider it my job to prevent misguided people from making threads and posting even if they seek help with profoundly misguided tasks. If I did, I would be anchoring much more than threads by transgender people.

That thread is still treading a fine line though. If it were asking for advice on how to "transition" sexually, I think that's unrelated to /fit/ enough to be straightforwardly considered off-topic and deserving of an anchor at minimum. The OP says

>Trying to lose weight/bulk up/man up

with the added attention whoring addition that she's a "transboy". The post seems to be asking for advice on how to gain muscle and lose fat while stating that a "transition" is happening through administration of testosterone and surgery. It is true that the thread has no value when stripped of meaningless additions. Trying to lose weight and bulk up is more or less the goal of the whole board, and nothing of significance has changed on how to approach that problem by stating that the poster herself is a "transboy".

The low signal-to-noise ratio of the post would appear to stem from an egocentric approach to posting. That is to say "The world is about me, myself, and I. What special fitness program is appropriate for my special little self who cannot possibly fathom that I am not extra special and that the same exercise and dieting techniques that work for everyone else do in fact apply to me? What special fitness program says me, me, me without forcing me to investigate what others are doing? Oh yeah, did I mention all these special things that I am and what I'm going through? This is also my blog---not just a desperate plea for attention. Did I mention that I am extremely impatient and don't have the time to see what other people are up to and how they solve the exact same problems I have?" Unfortunately, that is not enough to warrant my involvement, as this is also the approach to life for most people (including myself). I am pessimistic about the result of policing the board to only allow threads by people who don't have their heads up their respective ego's ass; very few people would be left.

I did some more thinking, and a test I could use came to me:

It should be the case that

An individual thread of a particular category is allowable. → A general of that category is allowable.

However, intuitively it should then also be the case that

A general thread of a particular category is allowable. ↛ An individual thread of that category is allowable.

So the test is thus:

Would I want to allow a general version of the thread in question?

I already considered that the consequence of permitting the thread might mean more and more transgender posts in the future, so I was not looking forward to the situation where I had to quell the growth of a rising trend to sustain normality. Anything can be considered spam if it gets out of hand with obnoxious repetition of many OPs with the same pattern so as to take on the appearance of a raid. Ultimately, I don't think we need to make space for a "Transgender /fit/ General", and in the future such posts should go to the QTDDTOT thread. So in other words, I now have decided to anchor the thread. Of course, this also raises the question of "What should be allowable as a general?" I think one perspective on generals is that they are a compromise between being strictly on the topic of health and fitness and diverging into other areas that /fit/izens often want to talk about. Ideally, there would be so many interesting health and fitness posts and activity that very little compromise would be needed to keep a minimum amount of people engaged with a minimum amount of activity. Before I have said even a "/fit/ Video Games General" would be allowable, so I think the pattern I want to follow is usually going to be allowing the types of interests that many people on this website or the main demographic of /fit/ would tend to be interested in. I think size of the group interested in transgender topics is marginal enough to not warrant any such compromise.

I do not consider "Help me sexually transition" a topic that /fit/ needs in order to serve its main demographic, but I don't want this to be a place where people can't ever ask for help with their problems or seek objective advice, so if someone were to make a thread genuinely asking "Is it healthy to transition sexually?" or "What are the health consequences of being transgender?" or even "Is it a good idea to have a sex change?" that would be fine. After all, intuitively I wouldn't stop fat people from asking similar questions about obesity.

>>141133

>it is funny watching so many chomp down and even bump the thread

I think that's more to do with the fact that the board is slow, at least feels slower than a year or two ago (purely subjective, I may be blowing stats out my ass). So hungry shitposters happily partake in aforementioned faggotry.

>I am pessimistic about the result of policing the board to only allow threads by people who don't have their heads up their respective ego's ass; very few people would be left.

Agree, /fit/ audience tends to be more egotistical through self-selection not meant as a dig

Instead of framing your policy as "X,Y,Z threads are allowed on /fit/" why not ask "does a thread about W harm or detract from /fit/'s charter/purpose?"

>I've been using anchors so that discussion can continue and my decision can be reversed in theory.

>I now have decided to anchor the thread.

Could you explain, for the mere mortals, what "anchoring" does? It's not mentioned in https://8ch.net/faq.html

>>141378

>Instead of framing your policy as "X,Y,Z threads are allowed on /fit/"

I think there's always going to be dark corners where policy reveals itself as arbitrary, so a list of X, Y, and Z is just there to fuel intuition. After all, you're dealing with a live person (me) and his disposition regarding certain activities—not merely programmatic rules a computer could follow.

>why not ask "does a thread about W harm or detract from /fit/'s charter/purpose?"

Are you wondering why I don't publicly ask that question before taking moderation action or why I am not asking myself that question?

For the first interpretation, I would say because most of these actions are to anchor (or bumplock)—which can be harmlessly reversed if people decide to speak up about a thread being anchored. If I anchor something and you don't like it, you could see it as being prompted to say something about it in this thread. It is possible for me to reverse decisions and even to become more lenient. Of course, for that to happen, you have to at least say which thread shouldn't be anchored and why.

For the second interpretation, I do try to look at things from multiple perspectives, but I like to mention specifics so people can hopefully follow the pattern of what I am doing—which is also why I prefer there to be some level of consistency in my actions. I don't want what I do next to be a complete surprise. I see the rules as a way of getting to know me and what to expect from me (as a moderator). It's not fun if you are potential poster and you are on edge wondering whether or not your thread will just be deleted outright by someone being overzealous with censorship, but I tend to think it's probably inevitable that I will occasionally need to make judgments on the fly without precedent—like the transgender thread. There was no explicit policy about transgender threads, but behind /fit/'s charter/purpose are actual people that come here—some as regulars. I didn't think they would appreciate the board going in that direction. There's a part of me that does not care if a transgender thread appears in this board as long as I still get to read and interact with the threads I'm interested in and the signal to noise ratio doesn't crash, but that's the thing. The interesting threads can go away if the relationship with the main crowd of /fit/ is not maintained and I start sending signals that another crowd is desired, so some decisions may be based on wanting to maintain just enough status quo for the "interesting crowd" to stick around. The posters make the board what it is, and the board can morph into something completely different if they are exchanged for another group.

>Could you explain, for the mere mortals, what "anchoring" does?

I find myself skeptical that you have been coming here since a year or two ago and yet you don't know what it means for a thread to be anchored. I'll explain anyways. It means the thread cannot be "bumped", but discussion can continue in the thread until it "falls off" the catalog. Normally when a post is made in a thread, the thread is "bumped" by placing it on the top of page 1 in the catalog unless the thread is bumplocked (or "anchored"). The catalog of threads has limited space, so when the catalog is full and a new thread is made, the bottom most thread is deleted automatically, and anchored threads tend reach the bottom and get deleted sooner (because they can't be bumped). Btw, /fit/'s catalog hasn't run out of space yet, so nothing has been automatically deleted in this way in quite some time. I like using anchors much, much more than deletions or bans, because I'm not very interested in full blown censorship. I only care so much about what you guys post about and prefer to be a poster more often than a moderator. My favorite things to delete are spam.

>>141386

>Are you wondering why I don't publicly ask that question before taking moderation action or why I am not asking myself that question?

Nah, no need to turn this place into reddit :^) I was just nitpicking on your formal logic description of the "test".

I think you basically have the right approach:

>I like using anchors much, much more than deletions or bans, because I'm not very interested in full blown censorship. I only care so much about what you guys post about and prefer to be a poster more often than a moderator. My favorite things to delete are spam.

>It [anchoring] means the thread cannot be "bumped", but discussion can continue in the thread until it "falls off" the catalog.

Thanks for explaining, was an honest question. I know bumping, saging, catalog limits, sliding threads, etc. but "bumplocking" mechanics never occurred to me (never been a mod/board owner). thinking back tho it explains a few threads I've been in…

>>141584

I don't mind meta discussion or even posts that criticize me, but more than one meta thread is not needed on this board and additional threads just clutter the catalog.

>>141972

I don't give a fuck about board drama since all of 8chan is already dead now but nigger that is not a gecko.

Do not post, request, or link to any content that is illegal in the United States of America and do not create boards with the purpose of posting or spreading such content.

It has come to my attention that a ban appeal for a post from a French IP address was made. The post broke 8chan's global rule which is shaped by the laws and culture of the United States of America. Under no circumstance will any such appeal ever be granted unless it is shown that the post was actually legal without any shadow of a doubt. An extreme bias for not investigating evidence of its legality should normally be expected, and evidence of legality is absolutely not enough to allow continued posting of anything remotely similar to what aroused suspicion enough to cause a ban. Such evidence is only suitable for the one appeal allotted to banned posters, and continued behavior that arouses suspicion will result in another ban where the appeal is ignored.

However, suspicion of having posted child porn or any real picture or remotely realistic and obscene depiction of an underage person (underage according to the laws of the United States of America) will always result in a ban for which the one allotted appeal will always be ignored and any evidence to the contrary will be universally ignored. The reason is simple: I am not in the business of determining if your porn or obscene depictions are legal or not and I am not interested in promoting a board culture that posts obscene pictures of persons who are of questionable age. While /fit/ may not be safe for work, it's not a board centered around porn, so this is not supposed to be a problem here. If the person pictured appears to be underage and the picture appears obscene, it will always be treated the same as a person being certainly underage and the picture being certainly obscene. This is a touchy subject by design, and even if you were to post an obscene picture of a well-known person who "everyone knows was of proper age but he/she looked young", you will be banned and your entire post deleted without hesitation, because it is considered enticing others to post obscene pictures of actual underage persons and you can't expect me to even know who your favorite child-like, but still adult, well-known person is.

Please understand that while /fit/ wishes to promote a kind of international culture with the use of flags associated with posts, you aren't wanted here if you are not familiar enough with the context of what is legal in the United States of America. There isn't necessarily some grudge against you and what your own culture and country considers legal, righteous, or neutral, but neither /fit/ nor 8chan is able or willing to cater to your needs. This message is posted for the benefit and understanding of the banned poster and all would-be posters on /fit/. Please use this information well, and I advise that nobody reply to this post without a really good reason. Any sincere questions should be addressed to the 8chan administration, because this is regarding the global rules:

☞ https://8ch.net/faq.html#what-is-the-best-way-to-contact-the-8chan-administration

If anyone sees a post which is suspected of breaking global rules, I suggest you click the right-pointing triangle (‣) in the top-left corner of the post, and then click "Global report" in the subsequently appearing menu at a minimum. You may also choose "Report" secondarily which is a local report mainly seen by me, the board owner of /fit/, but please always notify the global administration of 8chan for posts breaking global rules first as they are a larger, more vigilant team than the administration of /fit/.

See the following links for further information:

☞ https://8ch.net/faq.html#are-there-any-global-rules-regarding-content

☞ https://8ch.net/globalrule.html

☞ https://8ch.net/obscenity.html

☞ https://8ch.net/dost.html

>>142796

R-ron?

>>142796

After reading this post, how many of you thought pedophile discussion threads were wanted on this board provided that the post attachments were strictly legal—perhaps even youtube embeds? If you thought so, leave now and never come back.

/fit/ will not ever cater to pedophile discussion or interests in any format whatsoever.

Legality is important, but it is not enough to make any threads centered around ogling the underage acceptable on this board. Not even philosophical discussion is wanted—meaning you won't skirt around this by having a pedophile thread composed of 100% text either. I can't imagine why someone would be so desperate to talk about these things that they come to /fit/ to do so, but do us all a favor and remove yourself from this place if the pedophile spaghetti is just spilling out of your pockets uncontrollably.

All pedophiles should just leave and never come back.

>>143099

What warranted this second post? Why are you sperging out so hard? You got one ban appeal and this is what it does to you? I'm just want to know what you're trying to accomplish with this post.

I don't need to read your wall of text just to get "no pedo discussion on this board" out of it, which would be fucking obvious since this is /fit/.

I don't know what animal crawled up your ass, but no one cares about your moral crusade, pedoshit or otherwise. Just do your job and please make yourself as least visible as necessary..

>>143099

Pedophilia is not a crime you little manlet fag.

I would like to be hotpocket

Why was http://liamrosen.com/fitness.html removed from the sticky?

>>144369

Why was it added to the sticky in the first place? I removed it when I was in the mode of changing things because I wasn't impressed by it and didn't think it would be missed. I'll add it back if you explicitly ask for it to be added. I'm not inherently against it, but I did think of it as odd associating /fit/ with this random guru. Although, /fit/ does have many gurus, but they hang around only as long as they are memed. One day, even Starting Strength will be lost and forgotten.

>>144372

>I wasn't impressed by it and didn't think it would be missed

It's not meant to impress, it's the sticky for newfaggots.

Jesus fucking christ I can't believe I have to explain this to the BO of /fit/

>One day, even Starting Strength will be lost and forgotten.

It just never stops with you does it

>>144414

>It's not meant to impress,

What I meant by that was it didn't impress me in the context of helping newfaggots, as in from my perspective it seemed to be wrong on many points and to be unhelpful to someone just starting out. That's just like my opinion though, man. I only have the privilege of twiddling with the knobs on this board. I don't really have a bone to pick with Liam Rosen's guide or any other links that /fit/ wants in the sticky. I simply removed it without asking, because I can try such a thing and it's straightforward to put it back. Almost anything generally helpful and fitness related could go in the sticky, but there has to be an explicit request—not just "Why is this link missing?". Also, I probably would deny requests to link to most commercial products or programs, because I don't think the sticky is for egregious* shilling. Simple Science Fitness is kind of a gray area to me where I allow it as long as they offer so much information for free, but it should probably be removed if they become more biased towards paid membership.

*I was going to say no shilling, period, but I don't know if that's too strict. For example, would I be okay with a reference to a generally useful book for beginners, such as Starting Strength, in the sticky? Maybe, but even that much I am cautious about doing without trying to imagine the consequences and limitations. Would I link to an Amazon page for a book? Absolutely not. I cut my teeth on Strength Training Anatomy, by Frédéric Delavier, btw.

WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE DEALS?

WHERE ARE ALL THE CHRISTMAS SPECIALS?

WHERE'S MUH CHEAP PROTEINS?

test

dyud

Is BO kill? did he not make it? There's double posts galore and not a janitor in sight. to be fair i noticed the site has been pretty shitty last few days

>>147135

I'm fine. All you see and experience before you is consciousness. Indeed, even the rocks and pebbles live and breath as you and I, because their true nature is the infinite emptiness which fills all things and constructs them out of nothing.

>Everything that appears in the three realms comes from the mind.

>But if they don't define it, what do they mean by mind?

>You ask. That's your mind. I answer. That's my mind. If I had no mind how could I answer? If you had no mind, how could you ask? That which asks is your mind.

>>147164

>Is BO kill?

We can only hope

>>147135

The board is chock full of ultra low quality posts right now. I don't think it's moderated whatsoever actually, not for the last couple weeks at least.

Seems like nothing is going on here. honestly I'd be willing to claim the board as BO and try to un-shit this place up.

there are literally 375 threads in the catalog right now. a board this slow only gets hurt by having so many threads up. dozens of threads have a single or no replies. about a quarter have 5 replies or less, and about half have 10 replies or less. there are a lot of shitposts that are basically useless.

right now the board isn't up for claiming, but it sure seems like the BO hasn't been here for a bit. I think we should cut the board catalog down drastically to maybe 50 threads or less. there are a couple duplicates and spam posts in the catalog as well. maybe decreasing the number of allowable thread creations in an hour or day might help. seems like a lot of threads are just a single question that should be in QTDDTOT, if they were they wouldn't fill up the board and the questions might actually get answered because the likelihood of someone finding the single question in the catalog is very low.

>eat 3-4 eggs a day, a piece of fruit, carrots or lightly salted nuts as a snack, a cup of cottage cheese

>jog 2 miles on trails

>check weight today

>went up from 223 to 227

… is it normal to gain weight after you cut out the junk food from your diet and start exercising? Am I doing something wrong?

>>147587

Dont know about your question specifically, but body composition is more important than weight.

Since muscle is heavier than fat, it's expected that you'll gain weight while appearing leaner if you've been lifting.

>>147614

Nevermind, I’ve been 2 mile speed walks and jogs for a couple weeks, and like I said, I changed my diet and even though I’m not seeing a lot of results yet on my weight, I took my resting BPM today and found they were down by 7 beats. I dropped from 90 to 83 so that’s a pretty big deal. Looks like I just need to be patient with it.

Also, I’ve got a 25 pound kettlebell and didn’t know if there were any decent daily exercises I could do with that.

>>147622

Kettlebell swings are the ultimate kettlebell exercise. 25 lbs is a bit light to start with unless you're really weak, but it'll do. You can also do kettlebell snatches and kettlebell clean and presses. You can get Pavel's entire "Enter the Kettlebell" video on YouTube. It's pretty good at covering the basics of kettlebell safety and the basic lifts I mentioned. I think it also covers Turkish getups.

>>147632

Gotcha, I’ll check him out and look up the proper way to do those exercises, and I’m pretty darn weak at the moment, but hopefully I won’t be this weak for long.

I appreciate the help!

>>147542

I know. I checked again today and the board isn't up for claiming, meaning that the BO has logged in in the last two weeks. but it seems like they haven't been here in longer than that anyway which really stinks. Why would he log in if he doesn't want anything to do with the board anymore?

>>147587

a couple pounds either way could just be water weight, too. I wouldn't worry about it, what matters is how you feel physically.

>>147981

I logged in to delete spam

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