PRE-SEASON TESTING THREAD Backmarker 02/21/16 (Sun) 12:32:48 684241 No. 35459 [View All]
PRE-SEASON TESTING THREAD
>The wait is finally over! (nearly)
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2015 Barcelona pole time:
>Nico Rosberg 1m 24.681
List of 2015 1st Barcelona test times, all days combined:
>1. Romain Grosjean Lotus-Mercedes 102 laps 1m 24.067
>2. Nico Rosberg Mercedes-Mercedes 197 laps 1m 24.321
>3. Pastor Maldonado Lotus-Mercedes 173 laps 1m 24.345
>4. Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull-Renault 202 laps 1m 24.574
>5. Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari-Ferrari 164 laps 1m 24.584
>6. Felipe Massa Williams-Mercedes 143 laps 1m 24.672
>7. Sergio Perez Force India-Mercedes 155 laps 1m 24.702
>8. Max Verstappen Toro Rosso-Renault 223 laps 1m 24.729
>9. Lewis Hamilton Mercedes-Mercedes 201 laps 1m 24.923
>10. Daniil Kvyat Red Bull-Renault 214 laps 1m 24.941
>11. Felipe Nasr Sauber-Ferrari 152 laps 1m 24.956
>12. Valtteri Bottas Williams-Mercedes 176 laps 1m 25.345
>13. Carlos Sainz Toro Rosso-Renault 188 laps 1m 25.60
>14. Fernando Alonso McLaren-Honda 79 laps 1m 25.961
>15. Jolyon Palmer Lotus-Mercedes 77 laps 1m 26.280
>16. Sebastian Vettel Ferrari-Ferrari 179 laps 1m 26.312
>17. Marcus Ericsson Sauber-Ferrari 166 laps 1m 26.340
>18. Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 36 laps 1m 26.591
>19. Pascal Wehrlein Force India-Mercedes 113 laps 1m 27.333
>20. Jenson Button McLaren-Honda 44 laps 1m 28.182
>21. Pascal Wehrlein Mercedes-Mercedes 48 laps 1m 28.489
>22. Susie Wolff Williams-Mercedes 86 laps 1m 28.906
List of 2015 2nd Barcelona test times, all days combined:
>1. Nico Rosberg Mercedes-Mercedes 254 laps 1m 22.792
>2. Lewis Hamilton Mercedes-Mercedes 124 laps 1m 23.022
>3. Valtteri Bottas Williams-Mercedes 179 laps 1m 23.063
>4. Felipe Massa Williams-Mercedes 205 laps 1m 23.500
>5. Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari-Ferrari 216 laps 1m 23.276
>6. Sebastian Vettel Ferrari-Ferrari 272 laps 1m 23.469
>7. Felipe Nasr Sauber-Ferrari 300 laps 1m 24.023
>8. Carlos Sainz Toro Rosso-Renault 218 laps 1m 24.191
>9. Romain Grosjean Lotus-Mercedes 191 laps 1m 24.200
>10. Marcus Ericsson Sauber-Ferrari 245 laps 1m 24.276
>11. Max Verstappen Toro Rosso-Renault 224 laps 1m 24.527
>12. Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull-Renault 200 laps 1m 24.638
>13. Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 235 laps 1m 24.939
>14. Sergio Perez Force India-Mercedes 130 laps 1m 25.113
>15. Kevin Magnussen McLaren-Honda 39 laps 1m 25.225
>16. Jenson Button McLaren-Honda 138 laps 1m 25.327
>17. Daniil Kvyat Red Bull-Renault 159 laps 1m 25.947
>18. Pastor Maldonado Lotus-Mercedes 176 laps 1m 26.705
List of drivers who just parked the car by crashing in to a wall at high speed while unconscious during 2015 testing:
>Fernando Alonso
List of drivers who required a helicopter medevac after they just parked the car during 2015 testing:
>Fernando Alonso
List of drivers who woke up and thought it was 1995 and that they were a 13 year old kart racer after they just parked the car during 2015 testing:
>Fernando Alonso
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Backmarker 02/23/16 (Tue) 17:05:45 684241 No. 36179
>>36177
To happen so close to the end of the session and without much fuss makes that seem likely.
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Backmarker 02/23/16 (Tue) 17:07:59 684241 No. 36180
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>36178
>>Session will not restart
>>Purposefully stopping the car to stop anyone from doing more testing
>Clever
>German
>Ferrari
Story checks out
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Backmarker 02/23/16 (Tue) 17:11:39 684241 No. 36181
>>36179
Yes, very high probability it is just fuel calibration.
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Backmarker 02/23/16 (Tue) 17:27:59 684241 No. 36187
>F1 strategy group wants 1 month more time to decide on 2017 regs. Agreement on chassis width of 160cm.
Honestly they must just sit around and come up with tiny stuff to argue about in the next meeting.
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Backmarker 02/23/16 (Tue) 17:31:05 684241 No. 36188
>>36187
wait hang on
>160cm
THEY ARE MAKING THEM FUCKING NARROWER?
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Backmarker 02/23/16 (Tue) 17:34:40 684241 No. 36189
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Backmarker 02/23/16 (Tue) 17:37:05 684241 No. 36190
Where's Ted Kravtiz when you need him to explain all this incorrectly
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Backmarker 02/23/16 (Tue) 17:38:57 684241 No. 36191
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/formel-1/f1-auto-2017-strategie-gruppe-will-einen-monat-mehr-zeit-10566696.html
>Favorite for the new regulations is the so-called McLaren model with a body width of 160 centimeters.
>This version also supports Pirelli. The tire manufacturer said in front against Red Bull concept with a body width of 1.80 meters
It must just be the body width not the max width because having the cars be 160cm max wide would just be fucking wrong.
So it would 2m wide with a 160 wide body?
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Backmarker 02/23/16 (Tue) 17:42:06 684241 No. 36192
>>36191
They won't run the body (other than the floor) at max width anyway, too shit for CdA aero.
The big question is, is what is the maximum track allowed to be under the new regs.
From what I found, the track is currently:
>http://www.f1technical.net/f1db/cars/1006/lotus-e22
>Front Track: 1450 mm
>Rear Track: 1400 mm
>http://www.f1technical.net/f1db/cars/1019/scuderia-toro-rosso-str10
>Track width: 1,460 mm (front); 1,416 mm (rear)
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Backmarker 02/23/16 (Tue) 17:49:19 684241 No. 36193
>>36192
Yes but if they keep the 200cm width surely the tyres would be twice the width they currently are?
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Backmarker 02/23/16 (Tue) 18:23:58 684241 No. 36195
OH FOR FUCK SAKES
>@tgruener
>New #F1 quali mode in discussion for 2016. All cars running on the track together - after every few minutes the slowest drops out. #AMuS
Does it honestly surprise anyone that they want to ruin one of the few things that F1 does right?
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Backmarker 02/23/16 (Tue) 18:24:01 684241 No. 36196
>New #F1 quali mode in discussion for 2016. All cars running on the track together - after every few minutes the slowest drops out.
Oh for fuck sake
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Backmarker 02/23/16 (Tue) 18:24:25 684241 No. 36197
>>36193
No, the inside of the rubber could just sit further out.
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Backmarker 02/23/16 (Tue) 18:24:47 684241 No. 36198
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Backmarker 02/23/16 (Tue) 18:25:15 684241 No. 36199
>>36198
Surprisingly well done as well
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Backmarker 02/23/16 (Tue) 18:43:27 684241 No. 36200
Did anyone else know that Japan has a giant stand which says Marlboro on it or do the broadcasters make sure it never gets in shot?
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Backmarker 02/23/16 (Tue) 18:46:06 684241 No. 36201
>>36195
But how do they decide the order of the cars on the track? Because I can clearly see some drivers cheating the rules and doing some clever "nearly blocking" manoeuvres if they're in front of other cars.
Sure there are rules about that, but I would be surprised if anyone didn't try it.
Probably going to be experimented at some race, then dropped right afterwards because of how stupid it is. If the issue is that half the qualifying sessions are boring because no one's driving, then maybe they should stop penalizing the drivers actually driving in quali by having them carry over their tires.
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Backmarker 02/23/16 (Tue) 18:50:11 684241 No. 36202
>>36201
If you assume it is every 5 minutes then it would be anyone on a lap when it goes 5 minutes can complete that lap.
Slowest lap is gone.
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Backmarker 02/23/16 (Tue) 18:55:14 684241 No. 36203
>>36202
>be driver
>need fuel
>about to be knocked out
>stay out and attempts a lap
>run out of fuel
>cause red flag
Brilliant system…
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Backmarker 02/23/16 (Tue) 18:57:59 684241 No. 36204
>>36203
You would have to fill assuming you were going to run for the whole session.
Tyre pit stops could be done but it would be tight to pull in, get them done, do an out lap and then a fast lap.
All in all it is just a shit system.
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Backmarker 02/23/16 (Tue) 19:03:58 684241 No. 36205
>>36204
>You would have to fill assuming you were going to run for the whole session.
What about the midfield though?
You'd get a huge advantage by fueling the car for 30 minutes of running instead of an hour.
And as a result, you won't get knocked out after 30 minutes, and run out of fuel.
It really is mindbogglingly incompetent that they want to fuck with one of the few things in F1 that actually works well.
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Backmarker 02/23/16 (Tue) 19:04:31 684241 No. 36206
Reminder: SkyF1 nightly coverage in 2 bongs
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Backmarker 02/23/16 (Tue) 19:06:18 684241 No. 36207
>>36205
Apparently it's not that they want to fuck it
They have already stuck it in dry. The change is for this season.
Fuck me.
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Backmarker 02/23/16 (Tue) 19:11:01 684241 No. 36208
>>36207
>Formula 1 teams have agreed to the introduction of a radical elimination style qualifying format as part of a move to improve the show.
>After hours of discussion in Geneva between team bosses and F1 chiefs, sources have revealed that some proposals gained support.
>One of them is for an elimination style of qualifying, where the slowest car at certain segments is eliminated.
>The slowest driver will be eliminated every 1.5 minutes within the existing Q1-Q2-Q3 format.
I fucking what?
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Backmarker 02/23/16 (Tue) 19:14:01 684241 No. 36209
>>36208
>within the existing Q1-Q2-Q3 format
Holy fuck that's even worse.
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Backmarker 02/23/16 (Tue) 19:18:27 684241 No. 36210
>How it works
>Q1
>16 minutes duration
>After 7 minutes, slowest driver is eliminated
>Slowest driver eliminated every 1 minute 30 seconds thereafter until the chequered flag
>7 drivers eliminated, 15 progress to Q2
>Q2
>15 minutes duration
>After 6 minutes, slowest driver eliminated
>Slowest driver eliminated every 1 minute 30 seconds thereafter until the chequered flag
>7 drivers eliminated, 8 progress to Q3
>Q3
>14 minutes
>After 5 minutes, slowest driver eliminated
>Slowest driver eliminated every 1 minute 30 seconds thereafter until the chequered flag
>2 drivers left in final 1 minute 30 seconds
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Backmarker 02/23/16 (Tue) 19:18:55 684241 No. 36211
>Time ballast
>There are also suggestions that the format could be combined with a time ballast proposal, where the championship leader has certain time added to his lap.
>Teams have also agreed to delay a final decision on 2017 bodywork rules until April 30 following a disagreement about the scope of aerodynamic changes.
ARGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Backmarker 02/23/16 (Tue) 19:19:50 684241 No. 36212
>>36208
>The slowest driver will be eliminated every 1.5 minutes
It's like in one of my video games!
>within the existing Q1-Q2-Q3 format.
What the fuck?
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Backmarker 02/23/16 (Tue) 19:24:20 684241 No. 36213
>>36208
>think people aren't watching because qualifying isn't "exciting" (citation needed)
>now Q3 will be between uhh wait
1.5 min between each elimination, Q1 is 15 min and there are 22 cars. So that gives us (15/1.5)-1=9 drivers out, 13 left. Then Q2 is 3 min longer so that's an extra two cars out (13-11) for… 2 left in Q3?
So it looks like we've gone from a multi-way shootout to 12 minutes of two cars (which will probably be Mercedes) sitting in their garages after setting a banker lap since there aren't enough tires.
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Backmarker 02/23/16 (Tue) 19:25:42 684241 No. 36214
Just fucking imagine Monaco
Just fucking imagine if it rains during the elimination period.
It's going to be such a fucking shitshow
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Backmarker 02/23/16 (Tue) 19:26:36 684241 No. 36215
>>36208
>F1 teams have agreeed
calling bullshit on this one, F1 teams never fucking agree and it takes them like 15 hours of meetings to validate the size of the water bottle
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Backmarker 02/23/16 (Tue) 19:26:42 684241 No. 36216
>>36210
ah that makes slightly more sense, though it's now asininely complicated a la the new tire rules
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Backmarker 02/23/16 (Tue) 19:29:20 684241 No. 36217
>>36210
Shouldn't they focus on actually improving the sport for 2017 instead?
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Backmarker 02/23/16 (Tue) 19:31:05 684241 No. 36218
>>36217
What if they intend on ruining this season so anything can pass as an improvement in 2017?
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Backmarker 02/23/16 (Tue) 19:32:21 684241 No. 36219
>>36218
That has happened multiple times but this is going a bit far.
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Backmarker 02/23/16 (Tue) 19:32:56 684241 No. 36220
>>36218
That's pretty much what they've done for like the past 7 years
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Backmarker 02/23/16 (Tue) 19:35:40 684241 No. 36221
>>36219
Forgot to remove my tinfoil hat sorry
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Backmarker 02/23/16 (Tue) 19:38:09 684241 No. 36222
Another problem with this new format is that it doesn't account for laps that take longer than 90s. So this would be fine for Canada, Interlagos, etc. which have short laps and the driver can theoretically respond/get another lap in. But if it's Spa and raining (extreme but realistic example) the laps take 2 minutes and cars are going to knocked out after getting one flying lap down (out lap + timed lap could be almost 5 minutes if they're on track the instant the session begins).
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Backmarker 02/23/16 (Tue) 19:39:56 684241 No. 36223
>>36222
Singapore is 1:40 lap time.
2 elimination can happen in the time it takes you to do a single lap.
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Backmarker 02/23/16 (Tue) 19:41:58 684241 No. 36224
>>36223
also we will see this every session
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Backmarker 02/23/16 (Tue) 19:42:01 684241 No. 36225
>>36223
That's why you block the person that might knock you out.
>a system this retarded
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Backmarker 02/23/16 (Tue) 19:44:31 684241 No. 36226
>http://beta.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/122938/2017-cars-to-be-three-seconds-faster
>F1 agrees to make 2017 cars three seconds faster, not five-to-six as previously planned
Are they trying to kill this sort to lower the price or something?
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Backmarker 02/23/16 (Tue) 19:44:43 684241 No. 36227
>>36225
But it's not blocking I accidentally stalled when trying to start from the pitlane. I swear mr race director
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Backmarker 02/23/16 (Tue) 19:46:13 684241 No. 36228
>>36224
Might as well just start them direct from the grid instead
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Backmarker 02/23/16 (Tue) 19:48:12 684241 No. 36229
>>36222
Singapore is 1:40 lap time.
2 elimination can happen in the time it takes you to do a single lap.
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Backmarker 02/23/16 (Tue) 19:49:39 684241 No. 36230
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Backmarker 02/23/16 (Tue) 19:59:58 684241 No. 36231
>>36230
>2017 quali determined by a huge game of Uno between all the drivers
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Backmarker 02/23/16 (Tue) 20:01:08 684241 No. 36232
>many team bosses didn't understood how this qualifying would work and Ecclestone was very aggressive, saying that if F1 continues in this way, they will soon lose races
>many team bosses didn't understood how this qualifying would work
WHO IN GODS NAME CAME UP WITH IT THEN????
HOW CAN YOU COME UP WITH AND DECIDE ON SOMETHING YOU JUST FUNDAMENTALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND????
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Backmarker 02/23/16 (Tue) 20:22:36 684241 No. 36234
99 percent sure this is a threat. They keep proposing shitty shit at ecclestone's behest. He wanted these shit formulae removed and the manufacturers and todt stopped him, so now he's twisting the knife.
He's showing that if he doesn't get his way he'll have to fuck it up.
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Backmarker 02/23/16 (Tue) 20:23:13 684241 No. 36235
NEW THREAD
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>>36233
>>36233
>>36233
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>>36233
>>36233
>>36233
NEW THREAD
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