/doomer/ - Doomers Club

>>25556

The fact that no on has responded yet hasn't helped. What your saying makes sense. I do experience the things you describe that you are unsure of their existence. But I see other people who have magnitudes more access to these things. For example, I've always wondered what having a large supportive family would be like. It's been my mom, me and the cat for 17 years now… I have family, but it's a very small an isolated one that's doing its best to just get by.

>>25566

You're touching on some good stuff, but:

>in the times before the modern day written language was mostly images

Alphabets have been around for thousands of years.

>>25568

sorry for making it bland, my main point was that, yes, we live in a giant loop in-between the real and the fictitious

our bodies are becoming useless, and soon enough there wont be any point of living in the physical world since everything is virtual

>>25556

i know what you mean. i know for certain most normalfags do not know the love bond in truth. hypergamy rife. i would not think of them as deserving more than you, as these relations are empty. i would prefer to never know the sensation than know it with the average modern woman.

>>25569

i can attest that is friendship. years can pass, but the brothers that choose one another will stand by one another.

>>25572

your body will be useless only when it is dead

>>25573

>hypergamy

whoredom i mean. they are like bonobos

>>25574

>whoredom

this metaphorically equates to fucking like rabbits so this is technically a rodent thread then and I have to post in it

>>25556

Kiwi-san, I think you are describing early stages of depersonalisation or derealization. Happens even to the best of us …

But honestly, what you describe is nothing extraordinary.

If you talk to a blind person about colors, he would never understand what you mean, let alone have imationation of what you are talking about …

>>25556

If you missing something in life, like you mentioned - friendship or real compassion outside of a non-fictional setting - chances are it's your direct or indirect fault. I don't know who the hell are you but people who say this are usually so unbearable and hard to deal with, it's no wonder no one wants to have anything to do with them. Why I use word indirect is because sometimes it just isn't your fault. Sometimes you are just like that, maybe it's your personality, maybe it's your social capability, maybe it's how you look or smell and that's okay. Like what the hell are you going to do? Change your personality and suffer with yourself? You know that phrase "just be yourself"? It surely worked for me but it doesn't work for many of wiz-tier robots and I'm aware of that. Why that advice is useful though is because often, even if it isn't bringing you what you desire, at least you can look to mirror, gaze into your own eyes and recognize yourself.

>>25564

At least you have support in your small family, no matter how isolated. A lot people don't have even that, or even worse, they have toxic family relationships.

>>25569

>Real friendship and compassion are a rarity in our world

Not as much as you think. They require (boomer talk warning) hard work. If you are not willing to give, you ca not expect any gifts. The reasons why long lasting friendships end are life circumstances in most cases. Like for example I know this girl since elementary school and she got pregnant recently, moved to completely different part of world so it's like, we can talk from time to time online but I give about 0% chance we will meet again. And interesting is why - because I could visit her if I'd wanted, or she could travel here if she wanted but none of us really want that at this point, we have our own lives going on etc but even if we will meet years later, the chemistry will be there and that's all you need for good friendship. We weren't together for 2 years and when we met recently, it was like good ole times, she didn't changed a bit. You just have to click with that person. You will meet a lot of not so important people in your life but you will meet a lot of good ones too and it depends on you how much energy you want to put into this form of relationship.

>>25574

Ironically enough, everyone fucking like bonobos might solve a lot of the world's problems but we are far closer to the chimpanzees. We evolved on the wrong side of the congo, non-motherfucker.

>>25594

the population is already too large. unless you mean accelerationism, in which case i am game

>>25556

AFAICT autists just have a rock solid connection to logic which hoi polloi do not. They'd rather walk through hell than leave their mental structure - as is their right.

If they knew to systematically meditate in nature that'd go a long way for them to develop empathy and the capacity to discern what not to empathize with.

>>25610

>AFAICT autists just have a rock solid connection to logic which hoi polloi do not. They'd rather walk through hell than leave their mental structure -

This is self-serving bullshit. Basically "REEEEEEE… We wuz logickal n sheeid!"

>>25615

Nah it's accurate. Logic doesn't get you far without a working body and emotions - that's their problem, but they have no problem holding onto their own logic, which the average Joe does. Can't turn an autist into a slave.

>>25621

No. Autistic "logic" is severely flawed, even when isolated from other deficiencies. Wanting to shoehorn everything to excessively rigid schemata and compulsively linear causal chains isn't some principled "holding on to ideals", it's just retardation.

>>25621

Only if autistic kids wouldn't need specially trained workers to play with them games and take care of them. This is why I don't like term 'borderline autism', even though I might be there somewhere, because it has nothing to do with people who really "suffer?(not sure if they internally really do suffer, but english speaking folks would probably say suffer)" because of autism. 50% of twitter bios have this some kind of disability thing in them and (borderline)autism is in that category. Even in scenario when your autist can be free thinker and not slave (which is not the case, since they are slaves of their own mind patterns aka neural connections, their own subjective logic), you can literally shatter their whole world by hugging them. Autist-like patterns of behavior =/= autism.

>>25621

>>25621

>Can't turn an autist into a slave.

you got that part right, but not because they are too "logic", they are simply too inept useless.

>>25556

I feel like I have no reference for what reality is at this point.

People talk about the importance of family and support, and I play along and talk about visiting my family, but when I do none of my family really talks to eachother. My dad sits on the couch watching "top ten" youtube videos on an ipad and my mom watches TV. I don't claim to be an overly supportive or interesting person myself, but even trying to broach anything about their lives, my life, current affairs, media that we've both seen they usually just give empty responses like "good" or "I don't know". The few times that my parent's emptiness have led me to vocalize my lack of hope in a future or the disconnection I feel they also just disconnect and so "oh okay, I don't know".

People talk about all of these experiences they have outside of work that change their worldview or that they really enjoy, like travelling, hiking, various social activities, and I just can't understand. I travelled to a few locations in Europe in a last ditch hope that things would be somewhat different but all I saw was the same rampant consumerism and tourism that I see elsewhere. My airbnb roommates were vapid fat sluts who I couldn't even have a brief conversation with, all they want to do is "partyyy". My belgian airbnb host was a somewhat quirky french lady who liked to talk about how eating grapes with the seeds is best for health since that's where the vitamins are. NYE in Brussels was boring and overcrowded, the crowd barely even danced and basically just stood there staring at the stage. Everything is either a tourist attraction or basically the same as my home, and the people aren't really different either. Yet my friends who subsequently went on similar trips seem to call it the greatest thing they've done with their life - while not being able to describe anything that seems truly interesting.

Apparently Tinder works for a lot of people, but even when I do get matches I find myself bored so god damn quickly. Every minute of conversation is a chore. But conversation is supposed to be what people enjoy?? I don't know.

My friends used to all play civ V or CSGO but for some reason they quickly stopped, but don't really seem to do anything else. Not that I really enjoy any video games anymore either, but it seems impossible to gather people to do something.

The people who are younger than me seem both extremely lost, with no ambition or talent in their studies (very much the "woe is me I have 2 much homework" kind of crowd), and the people older than me seem very dead-set in everything being fine or good. Those my age similarily complain about depression or whatever but it seems performative as they then seem to do a lot of shit and not sympathize with any of my views (not that I press my views often as most don't like it).

School has been consistently very easy. Everyone around me complains about how challenging it is, this seems to be a constant throughout high school to university, but I see no issues. I'm constantly told it will "be harder next year!" but I've been doing less and less each year. First year of university I showed up for every class, bought books, and studied with friends. Third and fourth year I literally stopped showing up for class, skipped labs since I didn't need the marks and didn't feel like wasting 3 hours to do nothing, and still aced the classes with (mostly) A's. The only studying I did was a few hours before the final. This is for STEM. It feels like a joke, but I don't feel like studying more since there doesn't feel like there is a point and I'm too tired to do anything productive with my time.

My friends complain about finding jobs, applying to hundreds of positions, but I applied to 1 position and got the job. Did half-ass work during my internship and my boss literally seeked me out to get me on board after graduation.

I don't intend to brag here, it just feels all so dissonant. Nothing anyone says seems to relate to my experiences. It seems people are always doing things in secret. My beliefs are never really challenged yet the people I know are ardently opposed to me.

Maybe this relates to how you're feeling, I've been wanting to grind this axe for a while but don't do so IRL since I understand that most people don't empathize with this, so it's best for my relationships to be more optimistic/human etc.

>>25784

hope youre doing good, leaf

>>25793

Thanks. Technically I'm doing well, not going to give up on *something* coming together considering I've still got 60+ years in my life left to enjoy, hopefully. Thanks for reading my rant.

>>25784

I don't know… it's almost as if…. PEOPLE HAVE THEIR OWN LIVES???????????????

>>25568

This is true, but it should be noted that the common person has only been able to read and write for a few hundred years. These were skills often reserved for the elite, and in some cases even the nobility had to rely on a scribe or monk to write for them.

I think most people, despite the measures taken to educate them, still have a disposition toward basic modes of communication and elementary levels of understanding. It's one of many reasons we have so many simple minded folks, especially here in the US, with 8th grade reading levels and an inability to comprehend complex ideas.