No.23299
SUICIDE HOTLINE
HOTLINE!!!!! pro tip retards
hotlines are fucking anonymous
i called the national suicide prevention hotline to try it out and the first thing they do is ask for my fucking location. what the fuck is this shit? i thought i just could talk to another person who can provide me with a reason to not kill myself and is trained and shit or something and they ask for my fucking location and say its mandatory. fuck normalniggers and their shit like this fuck.
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No.23300
yeah pretty much. normals never understand us. they try hard to "save" or pretend caring about us but actually they don't. they're just a fucking wagies waiting their shift to end, they never care.
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No.23301
>>23299
>and say its mandatory
kek what are they gonna do, hang up on you? I bet they have ways to quickly call the cops and locate you via your telephone number.if they think you're some kind of "emergency" case. Then they'll put you in solitary confinement because you're "crazy" and a danger to yourself and others.
I can't imagine anyone being helped by shit like "suicide prevention".
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No.23303
>>23299
The only reason they pretend to care in the first place is because a dead wagecuck doesn't generate any money. Suicide causes economical damage. (bad debt, loss of labour)
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No.23314
>getting advice from some dayretard
also this: >>23303
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No.23316
I don't get the taboo around suicide.
If someone is fed up with life and just want to end it all then let it be dammit. Who's better than the person itself to know if its life is worth or not of living?
If anything euthanasia should be legal everywhere and instead of prevention we should have suicide clinics specialized in helping you end your suffering in a safe way, much better than letting it to the person alone to do risking becoming a potato if something goes wrong.
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No.23319
>>23316
First of all, sunlightfags don't get the concept of suicide. Second of all, they think you should be locked up if you try and fail or if you are thinking about trying it. Imagine losing status as autonomous human bean while they force you to be alive at the same time. Why? Economy (muh valuable and contributing member of society lmao) and spook factors such as religion etc.
>if I don't have a freedom to die whenever I wish to (t. stallman), then I'd rather not live at all
<oopsie, there's a catch, we won't let you die, we will do everything to keep you alive, but not more than that, so enjoy your trashy life
Let the libshits finally take power and legalize everything ffs. Of course I want legal euthanasia, there are none not-spooky arguments against it.
shitpill: Anyone who enforces laws and power over me is inherently fascist => daytumors are fascists => we live in fascistic society made of different flavors of fascism => kill all normohomos ree
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No.23327
>>23316
Eh, a lot of people commit suicide on impulse, rather than actually as the logical conclusion of careful consideration and contemplation, like a lot of people on this board like to romanticize it as. Albert Camus in the Myth of Sisyphus says "one would have to know whether a friend of the desperate man had not that very day addressed him indifferently. He is the guilty one. For that is enough to precipitate all the rancors and all the boredom still in suspension."
The taboo around suicide I think arises from the sense of urgency that such a situation creates. We feel that if we can just stop someone from killing them self now, then they'll later realize how irrationally they were acting, and thank us for saving them. I think you guys are pretty silly with this conspiracy about "economical damage" and shit. NEET Doomers offing themselves isn't going to put a dent in anyone profits. This has nothing to do with protecting wagies from themselves, it has to do with people's hero complexes. Everybody wants to be the one who's seen as the good guy just trying to save lives. That way they can virtue signal on social media and rake in the dopamine from all the head pats they get from nobody who's actually suicidal. Same thing as people who put rainbow flags on their profile pictures even though they've never given a shit about LGBTQRSTUVWXYZ before. It's all just pandering; "look how good of a person I am! Make sure you tell me how progressive you think I am so I can add it to my ego spank bank for later."
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No.23330
>>23327
>silly with this conspiracy about "economical damage"
You have a good point with the pseudo-heroic aspect of it, but there's still an economic factor to it. I didn't make that up
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5409548/
>Total cost associated with NFSB and suicide is provided in Table 6. The total cost of suicide and NFSB in 2014 is estimated at $6.73 billion
Keep in mind that in lots of countries more people are dying by suicide than traffic accidents. tendency rising
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No.23333
>>23327
>Eh, a lot of people commit suicide on impulse, rather than actually as the logical conclusion of careful consideration and contemplation, like a lot of people on this board like to romanticize it as.
I fact-checked that and apparently it's true (60% to 80% of suicide attempts are impulsive). I wonder what "impulsive" means in this case. If suicidal impulses are the consequences of a mostly unhappy life, then is it really impulsive and therefore unjustified?
Or maybe I'm just frightened by the idea that we're not in control of our emotions, that we can attempt suicide for no reasons,no goal, than tne "chemical imbalance" cliché is actually valid…
What I refuse to give up on, however, is the idea that a scientific description of the how and why of suicide has only partial bearing on how to approach suicidal people. OP's hotline's approach of the problem is terrible. They only care about calling an ambulance for you in total disregard of what you wish and for what is pushing you to suicide to begin with.
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No.23334
>>23299
Calling those hotlines gets you put on a list. Multiple lists, actually. You never should have done that…
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No.23336
Can't say I have ever had a moment in my life where talking to someone has helped me.
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No.23349
>>23316
Let me lay it out for you. Basically, imagine psychological pain as a real commodity which cannot be created or destroyed. Suicide is simply the process of transferring your pain to those closest to you, the people who care, even if they don't show it. That's the only reason it is wrong. It is you hurting the people you love. So, for me, no matter how much I don't want to be alive, I can't justify hurting the people who care.
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No.23350
>>23333
To me, the greatest "impulse" comes after I get blackout drunk and don't know what stupid shit I have done. I am a polite person, so I never have done anything too egregious, but the dread itself makes me want to die and I carry a gun everyday so I always have the means. I just focus on my work and try to ignore it.
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No.23353
>>23349
Sounds like someone trying to rationalize and find an excuse for why he is too much of a my mom's cuntard to commit suicide.
Oh noes, some few people may cry for like a few days, weeks at most and then naturally forget that I have existed after some time has passed like what happens whenever someone dies, uh, that's like totally too much dude, I can't end my suffering bcuz mamas gonna cry for a month boo hoo.
Well if those fuckers really care about you then they'll understand that your act was for the best as it ceased your suffering but people are egoistic and think that it is better to have someone around even if its life is unbearable, well I say fuck them.
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No.23354
>>23353
>my mom's cuntard
What a hell of an word filter is this? LMAO
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No.23355
>>23299
I wonder what the suicide rates for the people taking the calls for the suicide hotline are?
Also, I've always been an advocate of the right to suicide. I believe that everyone has a right to a painless and worry-free suicide. In the medical community, there are near-painless methods of suicide involving a cocktail of cheap and high quality drugs. Of course the State keeps the practice illegal for nearly everyone that isn't suffering from a terminal illness. My goals is for anyone that suffers to have the right, if they so choose. Are you an incel who was born too ugly for most girls that wants to end their suffering? Right this way friend. Are you a college kid who just failed his examinations and has found that he has no real reason to live? Come on down. Are you a normie that is sad that s/he doesn't have as many 'likes' as everyone else? Here's a cure for that (suicide). I think the civil effects would be positive because as more and more people realized just how suicidal our society's become (because more people would know suicide 'victims' as a consequence of suicide being more accessible and pain-free) people would be more willing to do things to society that they wouldn't regularly be willing to do (such as killing the bourgeois, etc.). Ultimately, I want people to realize that life's not a big deal and to take it easy. God only knows what eternity contains. And that (eternity) comes after.
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No.23356
>>23319
>>23316
I see I am in good company. Much love, frens. I've been chillin' at the best /b/ the past couple of weeks (/b2/ to be exact). It's good to see everyone.
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No.23359
>>23356
My hopes are in /anti/, or in any board which will feed my true neutral tendencies.
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No.23360
Suicide hotline workers are fucking normalnigger daywalking scum.
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No.23627
National prevention in this country is fucking pathetic. They hire morons who have absolutely no clue how to deal with people who are on the brink of critical mass. They are trained to keep you on the phone long enough to determine if you are genuinely about to do it (based on fuck all who knows what guidelines) and if so they keep you on the phone while they alert your local PD. When the cops come it's mandatory that they arrest you, that is if they don't shoot you - lol - and dump you in a psych ward which could be an abysmal pit worse than county jail - believe me, I've been to both, and I liked jail more.
Psych ward doctors are typically indifferent due to a number of factors. They have overburdened work loads and basically just run over a few things with you for a minute each day, sign a prescription for medication to take on site, then you spend the rest of your day miserable in an environment with psychopaths who could have anything from high levels of schizophrenia (I shared a unit with a lady who literally yelled at walls all day - all fucking day, no exaggeration) to intense fuckers with anger management issues who might just punch you in the head because why not? If you're lucky, they'll determine you're okay to go after three days. You better hope to whatever you pray to that they let you out after three days. Because they bill you. Congratulations, here's your 7 thousand dollar bill for sleeping in our bed with bugs in it and eating our shit ass food. Hope you feel better anon!
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No.23628
>>23627
Suicide "prevention" is codeword for keeping normies in line, and it works so well in that regard to the point that normies even sacrifice their own children to this Molochian abomination to keep from rocking their rickety boat too much for the ruling class' liking.
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No.23629
>>23627
>When the cops come it's mandatory that they arrest you, that is if they don't shoot you - lol
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No.23633
>>23629
>the suspect cannot suicide
>if we shoot him first
check mate suicide fags
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No.23662
>>23629
Except it isn't free, because someone has to pay to clean up the mess that the cops made which could be a thousand dollars to get a cleaning crew to get the blood off of walls and carpeting, then someone has to pay for a funeral which will cost thousands of dollars. This is one of the things that keeps me in check. No one in my family has the money to suddenly spend 10 grand on putting my pathetic ass in the ground.
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No.26160
>>23299
Not only are they not fucking anonymous, they are basically reading a script. tried using a suicide text line and it was the same old bs. no substance to help whatsoever
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No.26166
>>23319
>>23316
My work has mandatory suicide training, and my boss was talking about how "if you just keep telling people there is more to life they will give up on their suicidal tendencies and not want to anhero." I should probably make it clear that my boss is a total chad dudebro and a complete ass who has no idea what is going on 75% of the time who has never had any struggle in his life, and spends his time at the gym or high on life because he has never seen hardship. The person giving the training basically told us that this was not the case, and confessed that her uncle was suicidal and after "he got help" he was released from a clinic, then immediately got home and suckstarted a glock within 30 minutes of being out of the clinic.
There is a great deal of literature to support that being suicidal is the only way to really appreciate life, because you are doing it because you want to, not because you are being compelled.
This link used to have a good essay on the subject, but it seems to be locked now
http://ashspace.org/contribs/carthago_deleta/living_as_a_suicidal.php
the tl:dr is that normies would rather compel living becasue it makes them feel good about themselves, and professional suicide prevention is just there to stop wagies from not being wagies. The only way to stop someone from being suicidal is to kill them while they are alive by restraining them physically or with medication. Life without living is worse than death, a concept normies can never grasp.
>>23327
People also say that memes or some funny youtuber stopped them from ending it all. These are impulsive decisions that are shallow in nature and do not grasp the gravity of people who understand they are mortal, and can thereby determine the value and direction of their lives, and those who have merely lost the will to live, without actually understanding the value of their lives.
If you are really suicidal and need someone to talk to, there are other avenues then calling a fraudline. Sometimes just talking with other people about suicide (not about you willingness or desire to commit it though) can help you better understand the nature of control over you own life.
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No.26169
>>23333 (nice)
>60% to 80% of suicide attempts are impulsive
That’s 60-80% of failed attempts, we cannot know if successful attempts were impulsive or not. Which isn’t saying much since if your girlfriend breaks up with you and you get sad and find some twine and tie it in a loop and try to hang your self you’ll probably fail. The majority of failed attempts are impulsive because they are impulsive. The people who plan out a suicide and test it like /suicide/ don’t know if that board was carried over are much more likely to die so those numbers are intentionally misinterpreted as the impulsiveness of ALL suicides when really it’s just failed attempts. This is obviously done to push the narrative that suicide is entirely bad, sad family, “life will get better at some point”™, and stigmatize suicide as an impulse which is an inherently negative connotation.
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No.26173
>>23299
Story of a friend I do not know any more from many years ago
>they were extremely depressed but not suicidal
>they called a suicide hotline because they couldn't find anyone else to talk to them
>the suicide hotline turned them down because they didn't sound suicidal enough
>them being hung up on by the suicide hotline was such a horrible thing, their last hope to talk to someone that it made them just enough depressed more that they became suicidal
>then they called up the suicide hotline again and told them that being hung up on made them feel suicidal and they didn't believe them and hung up on them again
normal people. Well I know who is going to hell and who is going to heaven, how about you? it's so obvious who the good people are and who the bad people are.
you can not expect to plant a good seed in bad soil and expect it to grow into a good tree.
You also can't blame people for being dropped into this hell world and growing up to be just as bad as the world around them.
We are not losers or abnormal. In fact we are the most healthy ones of the strongest ones out there because of the fact that we suffer more, because only the best and most good seeds are able to feel the biggest difference between themselves and the bad environment around them.
Those who do not suffer at all, are just as evil as their surroundings.
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No.26175
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No.26181
>>23301
This post is 1000% accurate. Called one of these places, hung up and had zogniggers at my door in minutes.
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No.26182
>>26181
are you kidding? how were they able to locate you that fast
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No.26207
>>23299
You do realize that saying you're suicidal removes your civil rights, right? You're the normalfag here.
>>23662
>Except it isn't free, because someone has to pay to clean up the mess that the cops made which could be a thousand dollars to get a cleaning crew to get the blood off of walls and carpeting, then someone has to pay for a funeral which will cost thousands of dollars.
>This is one of the things that keeps me in check
No it's not.
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No.26211
>>23303
Debt maybe, loss of labor? unless you're some highly qualified indispensable worker (doubt) then they dont give a shit.
The reason these shitty hotlines exist is because suicide is still taboo and so "we have to prevent it!……no, not the reasons why people get so fucking alienated from society that they kill themselves, thats fine, just the suicide part is bad!"
Suicide is not a big deal in most non-western countries with a different cultural background
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No.26212
>>23355
>(such as killing the bourgeois, etc.)
You will just replace them with a party nobility like the nomenklatura, which will proceed to send your ass to a gulag where the only way to anhero is work yourself to death
Have a nice day commie
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No.26213
>>23629
The most normalfag thing I seen regarding this is people talking about the mental toll on pigs from those "suicide by cop assholes"
>implying those uniformed armed sociopaths with a license to kill will even remember the suicide guy they shot yesterday
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