/doomer/ - Doomers Club

>>20843

>What are your thoughts on shooters and their lives (I guess this was the premise - wow, I remembered it!)?

Heh, are you writing new article?

>a lot of them - at the very least the school-oriented shooters - really would never have accomplished anything better.

Any names? Because those shooters I have in mind had quite a potential to accomplish whatever they wanted, it's just that what they wanted was to do became central point in their lives, so they did it. Seeing these school-shooter kids as someone who kills because they were so dumb that pulling trigger was only thing they could do is just not correct.

>were they to live on until their mid-twenties having never murdered anyone would simply be unnoticed, pathetic people.

Because you in your tiny little shitoffice, living your life with infertile wife and 2 cats, we all care about you, you are noticed, we will never forget about you. No, this is not insult, it's just counterweight to your argument to show you how pointless is attention, while attention often being the key to this problem itself. I'm not trying to defend school shooters here but I honestly can understand them. There are two common problems - a) you are pushed to corner by something; b) you want to make something that counts or just act out some counter reaction. This by itself counts more than what I and most of the humancattle did - literally nothing.

>I'd at least be remembered for a while and perhaps I'd already be dead.

What if you don't care about being remembered? What if your psychology is different? What if you see yourself in position of "cleaner"? What if you do it because you think you are saving somebody else? I really hate people who are making everything about themselves. /pol/ is notorious for this - "haha I will shoot people for this dumb spook but I'll be remembered forever as vikang hero heeeeheee".

>Maybe some people I don't like would be dead too as a bonus.

Wrong mentality imo. You are that type of person who has value based on other's people views, aren't you? Now please don't take anything I say as insult, I have nothing better to do right now so I'm just trying to elaborate and go deeper. It just seems to me that you don't get the shooter's stereotypical mentality. You care about yourself to a degree but after this constant pressure (of peers, of system, of weight of existence under certain conditions - negative or even hopeless in neutral sense) it will after some time transfer your mindset into pushing your response outwards. That means you are there to do some act you find to be right thing and your life becomes focused on the act itself, you as individual go back. Now there are shooters which had this mentality of "I'm the key person, this is about me, I'm the god" mentality but I'd claim this is not case which happens very often.

tl;dr It's fucked up situation because it's about doing something you find that it should be done, however you are not really thinking about it this way. In other words - making it so selfish that it's about your personal achievements and "eternal glory/memory" is cringe.

>do you look back and wonder what your life would be like if you had done something like that when you were younger?

Literally nothing would change other than I wouldn't be here. I find attention to be even negative aspect because I don't care about changing cattle's mind, I know it can't be done and I'm not narcissistic enough to desire attention. If such an act would be part of anti-weapon propaganda or whatever? Who cares, fuck this world.

>Doesn't it seem like you may as well have?

I would prefer not to answer.

>Not endorsing violence, here, but that's only because I'm a pussy.

Violence is natural and often the most reasonable answer on psychological understanding of this matter. I'll push you to corner where you lose all possibilities to move forward and it's not if you will or will not bite back, it's only matter of time.

If you want to understand why people shoot other people then study psychology behind their acts. The trouble is that it's not only understandable but you will find out it's so natural that there is literally nothing interesting about act itself. Difference between going to groceries and going to groceries and shooting it up is so marginal that it boils down to "I shoot them up because I felt like doing it, that's all".

>>20843

English really lacks a properly ambivalent pronoun for addressing strangers.

Sir having descended from Sire; a term for knights, for barons is just too much reverence for any random clown.

For lack of a better, I shall call you Breather.

Look, Breather; somebody that joins "killing a bunch of people" and "accomplish(ing something)" in the same thought is quite a bit outside reason.

You need to get with God, Breather.

>Doesn't it seem like you may as well have?

No. Throwing my life at completely undirected and pointless malice that would be utilized as political/propaganda tool to further agendas I despise is quite the opposite of accomplishing something.

Also an uncanny number of these events are directed in some fashion.

>>20847

Off the top of my head?

Nikolas Cruz is the heaviest school shooter case - I guess Seung He-Cho could have shaped up, but afaik he was doing pretty bad. Elliott Rogers was trapped one way or another - I mean he could have gotten laid, his ideology was wrong, but he was legit so socially awkward that it fucked him over. I'm cheating - but going outside of school shooters, you gots Randy Stair who was, I guess… talented? but nevertheless was going nowhere and would probably not ever manage to reproduce the class status he was born into. Then the guy who shot up that mall in… uh… was it Omaha? He was a loser. I'm hazy right now, lemme hit you up later if you need more.

My point isn't even that they're dumb. I mean, sure - some of them (like Elliott) were absolutely held back by their actually being morons. But guys like Cruz, Stair, etc. were more products of environment - IE they were retail workers who would probably never be able to support themselves on their pay and would probably be looked down upon forever. And those who didn't get to the point of working some shitty job just to work it? I think a lot of them probably would have risen exactly to this height had they not gone out and killed people early.

>This by itself counts more than what I and most of the humancattle did - literally nothing.

Exactly!

I'm not sure I'm reading you right - but I don't believe in "eternal glory." Obviously, once you die, all human remembrance passes in basically zero time because there's no you to measure it. None of that matters anymore. It's a drop in the ocean - but when you compare that to living a shitty, not-even-comfortable life as a loser who nobody remembers, this drop in the ocean is actually something - or at least more.

>If such an act would be part of anti-weapon propaganda or whatever? Who cares, fuck this world.

Precisely!

>>20853

>No. Throwing my life at completely undirected and pointless malice that would be utilized as political/propaganda tool to further agendas I despise is quite the opposite of accomplishing something.

It doesn't matter if you despise those agendas, though. Even if they're furthered, it will only make the world worse for the people who live in it. It will, at best, slightly accelerate the speed at which humans are disarmed, defanged, drugged into complacency. It will be absolute horror for those who aren't drugged.

>Also an uncanny number of these events are directed in some fashion.

Fair point, though.

I'm not sure how much I believe in all that - Sol Pais's or whoever's case was certainly especially weird, though. It's almost as though she eventually realized her obsession was a lie and chose not to follow through with it on those grounds - like she was supposed to fulfill some other role like shooting up a group of people or being stopped by cops or "good guys with guns" to serve one or another narrative. A lot of these things actually don't stick out to me that much, but her case, for its false-start, does.

>>20843

>they're all chronic failures, otherwise

That applies to the vast majority of people in modern society though. The problem being that we have an ultracompetitive society with - supposedly - great upwards mobility where most people work their entire lives at the behest of others, and that carries through in all aspects of society.

Most people aren't Chad Thundercock, the 20 year old triple PhD investment banker that bangs 5 different chicks just while driving home to his mansion in his Ferrari. Most people are barely adequate. It's a number's game: People tend to be average, and average in an competitive environment where only very, very few have any freedom at all means loser. Sure, maybe a loser with a middle-management job and an ex-wife that jumped off the cock-carousel in her mid-thirties and 2 children that he has to pay child-support for, but still a loser. Not to mention, chances are the middle-manager's parents were probably also middle-management. Unless you at least manage to improve upon what your parents achieved, you can't really call yourself a winner.

>>20865

>Elliott Rogers was trapped one way or another

He had money, his own car, he lived in a beautiful very liberal place whos one of the most priviledge in the world, he didn`t have any physical deffects, i don`t think he even had any serious mental issues. He was simply extremely dumb, extremely lazy and entitled like you would expect from the most pampered muhricans.

>>20865

>but he was legit so socially awkward that it fucked him over

Oh, I thought you meant successful as in being able to achieve something. I didn't know you mean "being socially fit". But yes I agree with the products of environment, I mean, aren't we all products of our environments? No matter how hard I try to be as much autonomous as possible, the experiences and influences of environments I went through shaped me to the very core.

>I think a lot of them probably would have risen exactly to this height had they not gone out and killed people early.

I'm not sure really because as you get older, you are gradually losing this rebellious spirit young people have in their teens/early 20s. It's not about being coward but you start to think more in terms of "yes, I can kill these people but what for?". When you are 18, you don't think this way, you are more impulsive I would say.

>It's a drop in the ocean - but when you compare that to living a shitty, not-even-comfortable life as a loser who nobody remembers, this drop in the ocean is actually something - or at least more.

I'm actually struggling in finding target to be honest. Every "enemy" is so faceless. So it's hard to pick some people and justify their killing, unless you want to admit to yourself that you are indeed so far beyond line that you want to kill for the act of killing itself. Like, you won't get anything from killing random people in mall, you won't change anything, the only two reasons you can put behind that is that either you want to kill them because you were in mood for it or you are in role of some cleaner, cleaning the world from the scum, etc. It's not so easy topic to be discussed because a lot of psychological factors have to be included in this discussion but I hope you get my point.

>killing random people

>who are just as useless as you

why not do a real piece of art

I am talking like something like 911 or oklahoma city

bombarding govt property

showing how useless govt is

but shooting random normalcucks. what is that good for?

>what are your thoughts blah blah

basically there is 2 types of angry people in planet

those who hate themselves and those who hate the world and feel treated unfairly

the first group usually dies silently and nobody sees it coming

the second group is your typical supreme gentleman crowd who think entire world is entitled to kiss their asses even if they are not offering anything worthwhile back and devoid of any talent

I do understand their rage at the world but I don't understand their sense of entitlement

nobody owes you anything in the world …

And then there is those other people who just don't like mondays …

>>20853

>breather

my sides

>>20868

>most people are average / loser

that in itself is not a problem per se. The problem comes when you have millions of those losers who have nothing to do entire day

<no wife

<no children

<so need no job either

<have no money so cannot have friends because social activities need money

<can't have hobbies either

<but I can watch tv all day

<and mooch the govt out of monies

in the past, even those losers had the illusion that their work was values trash man, construction worker, factory slave, farmer today that is not the case anymore. So why do those things when nobody values you for it? And of course that today when nobody wants to settle for anything less than a ferrari, those avg people are frustrated about dating game and tend to give up.

>>20865

Sol was a little paradox but not because she was put into school shooter category by utter mistake because she was a "columbiner". She was a paradox because even though she was aware of human nature and her, let's call it, critique of people's traits was so fucking right on point that it killed any naivety even dreamer like me had, even though she very likely shared understanding for act such as Columbine shooting, she decided to commit suicide in most fucking humanistic manner possible - reducing the casualties just to herself. I'm telling you, she was on another level, very smart girl. This wasn't act of impulsive inhuman violence but rather act of humanity in the inhuman conditions and disappointment in people, she was confronted with on daily basis. We know that women can be pretty big monsters as well, so I'm not buying into this holy f-card, I genuinely think she shared more of disappointment and sadness rather than deeply rooted hatred or desire for revenge which shooters usually have.

>>20881

>showing how useless govt is

Then you realize that government is nothing else than replaceable human cattle. The mental gymnastics such as "if you kill your enemies - they win", shows only that any attack on current system is useless. However, do what you think is right, I respect individuality in most extreme way because I understand it. If there is thing you think should be done, go for it. That's why I don't have so much problem with people who still believe in political solutions, I just disagree with them but I don't interfere with their ways unless they shit on my lawn.

>And then there is those other people who just don't like mondays …

Just get some PCP and go on killing spree, based Brenda.

>>20865

>eternal glory

very interesting

2 days ago I was watching a movie from 1999.

It was about some dude from the NY airport. He was a controller who managed the planes who land to NY. He was condiered a luminary and the best controller they had. He never made mistakes, had a blonde wife, a big house in the suburbs, made 6 figure salary and had 2 cars.

Then one day another guy comes in. Guy is a weirdo from Denver. He is better at the job, works like a machine, drives a motorbike, has a leather jacket and his wife is bombastic. Of course the first controller feels attacked in his territory.

>new guy comes

>is better in my work than I am

>is more badass then I am

>has a blazing hot wife

and of course he is scared.

The film ended with the first guy challenging the new guy at every occasion. Basically 2 animals battling each other for the top dog position. But the fun here is that there is no winner. The first guy seduced the new guy's wife and then his own marriage was destroyed because of it. He gets depressed, cannot do his job anymore. Gets suspended, spends his entire day watching cartoons on tv alone because his wife went to her parents with his son.

The morale of the story? There is always some guy who is better than you are. And never take your current situation for granted. You can lose everything at any given moment. Your money, your wife, your job, your car, your house. That is all leasing. You have it in this moment but tomorrow it can all be gone.

>1999 Pushing Tin

that was the name of the movie

it was kind of b movie but I liked the morale behind the story

>>20895

>Dating is still more about attractiveness than status.

Rodgers was not a bad looking guy or had any physicals deffects, if genetics fucked him over is in making him extremely dumb. Dude was too stupid to operate in the world no matter how many priviledges he grew up with.

Uglier, poorer dudes get laid all the time.

>>20897

People say he was ugly because he was mixed, classical /pol/ meme. He wasn't ugly but what was very repulsive was the way how he talked, at least in his videos. Trust me, it matters.

>>20898

> was the way how he talked

Yeah, and he talked like that because of pure stupidity, nothing else.

If he wasn`t and absolute moron he would have taken advantage of so much he had going for him but he was the kind of person to retarded to ever achieve anything. Like literally all he had to do was be semi decent and not a complete total creep saying retarded shit.What made him repulsive was being way too stupid to even do that. It wasn`t even mental issues, he was just that dumb.

>>20902

That's kinda my point. You could as rich as you want, bad genes will still screw you.

>dat discussion about le supreme gentleman

let me interject for a moment

>high social status but low biological status

he was basically on the wrong place at the wrong time. he wanted young blonde thot type of girl. Like from his daddys hollywood movies. When girls are young, attractiveness matters most. His BMW is useless because they only care about partying and being with the cool people at that age. Obviously, he was not a 2m tall bodybuilder with surfer tan so he could not get his marylin monroe wyfu

He could have just waited a few years and made some money, done some self improvement faggotry and he might have scored a decent looking wyfe around age 30. One that cares more about your status in society than how good you look. But of course he was too retarded to find that out. Or should I say, he thought the world owes him a flawless blonde bride just for existing.

>ugly

his face does look unusual. Like that mixed race girl that the german guy posted once. You look at him and you feel like the composition is not consistent. But I would not call him ugly in any way. His hair looked decent. There are guys balding at his age already. No deformities. He wasnt even overweight.

>way of speaking

that was what sabotaged him mostly. People feel when you are awkward and fake. He probably gave the serial killer vibes.

by the way, his anniversary was yesterday. Didnt even mention.

>>20925

>he was not a 2m tall bodybuilder with surfer tan

Most people aren`t , specially in the obesity capital that is burguerland , and yet even guys worse off than him can score a pretty girl if they know a few social cues and being able to go at least a few hours without being retarded and creepy.

>>20928

Imagine places like LA, where you had these jersey shore types of dudes. Why? Looks is everything, you can't afford to be obese. We are not talking about regular 9-5 boomer workers from mexico here.

>>20930

>dat legs

you know what BO

this new homosexualesque style is making life complicated even for me

recently I went to buy tracksuit pants. Last time I bought them in year 2014 and I bought Adidas XL size. This year I want to buy a new one. Try on XL size. I do fit in but these filthy shits cut away so much material in their latest creations. Basically the lower it goes to your feet, the thinner it gets. My old trackpants were much wider. Then the other problem is that the length is too short now. I cannot sit with the new XL. Just all in all it looks like their new idea to maximize profit is to cut every single inch of fabric that is not necessary. What a joke

anyways, I ended up buying a 2XL one. Maybe if the gayification of our fashion keeps going on, one day I will end up 4XL just like in the good old early 2000s when hip hop style was trendy 4XL tshirts and fubu jeans

But still even that trackpant was shit because the pockets cannot be closed in the new model

>inb4 you got fat

I did but compared to 2017. Compared to 2014 I am same weight yoyo

Maybe next time I just look for another store

>>20932

> What's more is that he saw all of his life as leading up to his identity as an aggrieved virgin.

This is what ticks me wrong about incels. They grab a few factoids and truism about how dating sucks for X type of guy and pretty much base their lives around it. Is all very trite and boring tbh. I don`t really care about fucking enough to base my entire identity on it, such a mundane thing to stress so much over.

So many of them seem to be middleschoolers who are barely just starting to have sexuality be a part of their lives and they are already setting themselves up for growing up on that crab mentality. We used to get into hobbies and edgy music and shit, not sperg the entire day about tinder statistics on reddit , like anyone cares or it amounts to anything, just pay some hooker.

>>20925

>But of course he was too retarded to find that out. Or should I say, he thought the world owes him a flawless blonde bride just for existing.

The problem is: retardation and social akwardness are themselves partly biological defects.

Like Rodger I'm from an middle class family. I have an engineering degree and white-collar wagecuck job that pays decently. Like Rodger, none of this prevented me from being lonely, unhappy, or

My point is: For some people, reading social cues, hiding discomfort, knowing how to act socially in real-time, these aren't just things you can just "want away" (unless you believe in free will but free will is bullshit), when you go through failure after failure, either you kill yourself or you start to feel entitled because you feel like this is the only way you can get what you need. In a sense I agree with you that Rodger was retarded, but that retardation isn't just an abstract thing he could have chose to throw away.

>>20934

I know what you mean, I have also problem to buy normal classic pair of jeans because the cut is just ridiculous and no matter what you do, it will always squeeze your balls and make you look like faggot.

>Basically the lower it goes to your feet, the thinner it gets.

Also it's wider on hips and belly, so it doesn't fit you above same as it doesn't fit you down at feet. However, I don't think it's because they try to save fabric. Look how guys really look like, shape of their bodies is different. Like zoomers have so narrow shoulders that women here had wider shoulders than some western zoomies. Just go around in some city and try to notice that.

>>20887

Shit, I knew I'd seen it!

>>20954

well, it might be a good fit for metrosexual western soyboys but I am balkans nigger. We are all skinnyfat from eating unhealthy stuff entire life. Past 30 we get giantic beer bellies as well. So they had a certain market in mind when they designed their new lines and my people were not part of it.

But I will keep an eye open when I got to town next time

>>21140

>it might be a good fit for metrosexual western soyboys

Friend, I'm afraid that it came here to east as well. In capital cities and bigger cities in general it's sort of noticeable.

>skinnyfat

Yes maybe that's the word + I genuinely think the food we eat fucks up with our hormones since very early age so it creates various deformities.

>>21209

>came to east too

yeah in cities people want to be chic and hip

it was easily predictable that it will happen

>the thing about skinnyfat

I don't know if people get what I mean. In Serbia and Bosnia, there is rarely anyone (men) who is slim. Most guys are rather bulky. Either the bodybuilder fags (but still fat over their muscles) or straight skinnyfat body type (not obese, not slim, some body fat but you would not call them overweight per se). You can see their bellies and asses stand out but they don't fit the obese criteria otherwise. I don't know it is just a phenomenon I noticed from travelling and seing people in cities. That goes for young people. Maybe also just unhealthy food habits (lots of carbohydrates, shittons of bread to every single meal, dishes are cooked with lots of oil, etc.)

For the oldies, well, they are the beer belly demographic. I cannot believe how much people drink there. I guess we just cannot resist unhealthy food and alcohol allures.

We are bretty much american now that I see it.

>>21280

I've read that Balkan people are all super tall, even more so than Nordics. Is that true?

>>21293

yes most of us are 180cm or taller. we make the perfect targets for being shot hehe

Just my younger cousin is like 175cm or something but his fathers side of the family is small guys in general.

>>20843

They accomplished nothing. People die every day. Are you suggesting a school bus getting hit by a train is an accomplishment? What does it change. Your logic sucks. All they did was make sad parents and give gun control advocates a face to plaster on the 6 o'clock news. Especially the school shooters. Kids are shit and mean and make fun of each other. Boo fucking hoo. I was made fun of, I also made fun of other people. Is anyone here old enough to remember Halo 2 on xbox live? It was nothing but 14 year olds screaming niggerfaggot at each other (I was one of them) and it was fucking fun for adolescent shitheads like me at the time. Anyone here remember WoW and ventrilo/teamspeak? It was a shitshow and we all gave each other shit for fucking everything. People bully each other, shooting someone over it is dumb and does nothing but demonstrate that the retard deserved being bullied for being such a little shit.

>>20847

>Wrong mentality imo. You are that type of person who has value based on other's people views, aren't you? Now please don't take anything I say as insult, I have nothing better to do right now so I'm just trying to elaborate and go deeper. It just seems to me that you don't get the shooter's stereotypical mentality. You care about yourself to a degree but after this constant pressure (of peers, of system, of weight of existence under certain conditions - negative or even hopeless in neutral sense) it will after some time transfer your mindset into pushing your response outwards. That means you are there to do some act you find to be right thing and your life becomes focused on the act itself, you as individual go back. Now there are shooters which had this mentality of "I'm the key person, this is about me, I'm the god" mentality but I'd claim this is not case which happens very often.

>

>tl;dr It's fucked up situation because it's about doing something you find that it should be done, however you are not really thinking about it this way. In other words - making it so selfish that it's about your personal achievements and "eternal glory/memory" is cringe.

I think this article describes much of what you are saying:

https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Unwarranted_Self-Importance

>>20853

this.

>>20865

>ut guys like Cruz, Stair, etc. were more products of environment - IE they were retail workers who would probably never be able to support themselves on their pay and would probably be looked down upon forever. And those who didn't get to the point of working some shitty job just to work it? I think a lot of them probably would have risen exactly to this height had they not gone out and killed people early.

I personally continue living out of spite, but I consider this idea of killing out of spite to be distasteful and childish. It's like the kid who knocks over the other kids sandcastle because the one he made sucks. Shitting on the world because you are so important that if you don't have what you want, neither can anyone else.

>>20881

>but shooting random normalcucks. what is that good for?

>

>I do understand their rage at the world but I don't understand their sense of entitlement

>

>nobody owes you anything in the world …

Agreed, all of your post is good.

>>20883

beautifully written

>>20885

>"if you kill your enemies - they win"

It isn't mental gymnastics, the drama teacher was right but he didn't know he was right. The correct phrasing is

>If you kill your people, you win

False flag attacks unite the people and give them purpose. They have been extremely effective, 9/11 for example has been the excuse for completely destabilizing the middle east to ensure Israeli military supremacy in the region.

>>20954

That and the new "stretch" denim fucking sucks. I can't buy decent jeans for work anymore. Kuhl is the only brand producing a quality product at the ~$90.00 price point.

>>21298

>https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Unwarranted_Self-Importance

It seems like it, yes.

>People who believe themselves important should seek medical treatment, perhaps because of narcissistic tendencies - except for Jacknstock, who was fucking fired instead. USI has become an epidemic, and is spreading faster than diarrhea in a Mexico City restaurant.

Only if this would be medically accepted diagnose.

>"stretch" denim

I have no idea it is called this way but it makes sense now. I really hate this type of clothing, maybe I'm borderline autist or something, I don't know, but I hate tight clothing. Not a fan of baggy jeans either but the idea of having clothes tight on my skin is just disturbing me internally + to be fair, not only I don't have best figure imaginable, even if you have body to be proud on, this type of clothing will make you look like a down anyway.

>>20877

Dude he was a feminine looking Manley surrounded by sjws and a wicked demeaning stepmother. There's more to the story than most let on. Ok, Urine PP?

>>21338

>if you have any sort of self esteem you need to be locked up

Ok shlomo

>>20937

Autist here. I have no college degree. Couldn't afford it due to Medicaid issues and insurance issues and allowed work time hours

>>21358

>locked up

Is that you again who can't read basic sentences? In this case you just missed sarcasm so not big deal.

It seems like an inherently American thing so it's hard to analyze it accurately without a proper cultural context.

For me personally, I think it's a sign of an intellectual and emotional utter defeat. Suicide is very bad in itself, because it breaks the network of social connections from others of which you are a part and causes unnecessary pain and trauma to people other than yourself. That is an unforgivable act of selfish egoism which I find disgusting.

Now if you take that and kill some random people to add to the equasion, it becomes a clusterfuck of selfishness and causing pain for no reason. If you want vengeance, cause pain on those who have harmed you directly. Ed bullied me? Well I stabbed the fucker! If you did it for fun like the Postal Guy? Hah, fuck society- let 'em burn. If you did it for your political agenda- welp, it's not like it's going to help, but okay. Some of it is cool, like the German Baader-Meinhoff group offing banksters. That's kind of relatable, they're scum. But if you did it because you're an egoistic fuck like Elliott Rodger, that fills me with disgust.

>>21358

Yet you are more likely to be put in a psych ward if you have low self-esteem than high self-esteem.

<Feeling bad? How about we lock you up in a ward with rude and demeaning nurses and call it healhcare?

Involuntary commitment is an aberration.

>>21371

>Suicide is very bad in itself, because it breaks the network of social connections from others of which you are a part and causes unnecessary pain and trauma to people other than yourself. That is an unforgivable act of selfish egoism which I find disgusting.

If the only reason relatives of a suicidee feel bad is because they "cause unnecessary pain and trauma" then relatives are the selfish ones. Why should a suicidal person care about relatives who don't care about the reasons they're suicidal to begin with?

>>20944

I read the first quater of his manifesto (had to delete it by fear my relatives would find out). I remember that, at least in this part, he sounded more sad than narcissistic. I still believe that Rodger was made rather than born.

I've been hearing about Chris Chan for more than a decade now. What did he do exactly?

>>21465

> What did he do exactly?

Thats a long story my friend, you have to watch youtube documentaries to get the whole lore but basically is just an autist who hardly treated his condition due to a negligent family. He discovered the internet and has been on his dellusional tirades , posting creepy videos, creppy comics and falling for trolls for years. There´s also a lot of Sonic and weird videogame fetishes involved.

I think almost everyone agrees is sad as fuck, but people still troll him for shit and giggles even after all this time. He is like the ultimate burguer. Entitled, dellusional a manchild and vicariously lives through shitty cartoons and nostalgic stuff.

>>21298

>They accomplished nothing. People die every day. Are you suggesting a school bus getting hit by a train is an accomplishment?

Inasmuch as anything else is an accomplishment, actually - yes. And not only that, but I kind of can see someone arranging for a train-related school bus accident. Pulling the strings just so someone somewhere would suspect something but not be able to prove it - just to fuck with them and kill a few people in the process. That's really, really interesting and it certainly beats whatever bullshit I'm working on right now.

>People bully each other, shooting someone over it is dumb and does nothing but demonstrate that the retard deserved being bullied for being such a little shit.

Eh, even school shootings aren't always of the revenge-y type. Like, Sandy Hook - he hated his mom who taught there, sure, but Lanza wasn't out for revenge against those children.

And RE accomplishments - yeah, it might not make some massive objective difference in amount of lives vs. deaths, but it will still register as an event to those who live.

>Shitting on the world because you are so important that if you don't have what you want, neither can anyone else.

I don't see it that way - personally, I just think death is cool.

>That and the new "stretch" denim fucking sucks. I can't buy decent jeans for work anymore.

I was just talking about this with someone the other day - I have a pair of skinnies from '11 which I cannot possibly wear in public anymore, I've gained so much weight. But they feel good, or would if I bothered to fucking lose it. Now every new pair I get, same size as the old pair - they look baggy by the time I'm done walking in them. I mean, that's nice, but sometimes what you need is honesty.

>>21298

If you think bullying is just live comedy, then why do adults get angry at kids making remarks at them? If its disrespectful for kids to mock adults, why should it be different for kids being mocked?

Sounds like you take bullying too lightly.

>>21371

I hate the school shooter types, but suicide is something I find has a societal duty among the weak. Pruning the weeds, so to speak. We should actively teach and train people to feel kneejerk disgust when someone is mentally, physically, or emotionally handicapped and make it the norm for even close family and friends to actively push such people to suicide. It should be readily available and convenient, has simple has a walkin for a clinic, and an in office dose of painless life ending chemicals while the person is resting in an open body bag. Upon their death, it's zipped up and disposed of. I consider being suicidal an illness worthy of death, so setting up institutions to allow suicidal people to die and society to be rid of them is good. Those who try to stop such things, like close friends or family, should be treated by law enforcement, media, and society has lower, more defective, and more vile than child molestors. They should be knocked out with tranquilizers and then euthanized for their misplaced empathy. This world has no place for the defective, and the decent people and the world has a whole is in fact plagued by them. If humanity had the balls to end the lives not worth having then things can function better, but they sadly don't remove the societal cancer which is getting ever closer to dooming this species. The same vermin who let in muslim rape gangs because of their feelings and give them a week for the raping and murder of a four year old are the same people who hold onto lost causes like those who either can't or won't live a life worth living for themselves or others. Suicide, like aids, is a cure for the broken, pointless, and ruined in society.

>>28153

>>21371

I don't mean for people to kill themselves, but I just simply can't see a way for tings to get better otherwise. We'll just be burdened by those with sadness that makes them deader than a corpse, people with hearts bigger than their heads, and people with so many defects that all reason for life is absent from their person. Maybe only sterilization and exclusion from the media for those that stop suicide is in order instead of euthanization since it;s more humane and will still stop the spreading of any bad genes that enabled suicidal or overly emotional to be born. If society treated guilt tripping people into living a life of misery has cruel and unusual punishment than maybe we'd have less people feeling the need to live such a meaningless life. I just don't see another way to rid the world of these defects - maybe sterilize the defective so they don't breed on (hell - they could even pay them a lump sum and make sure the issue never gets put in anything other than a societally good light).

>>28154

>tings

*things

broken fucking keyboard

>>28154

>it;s

*it's

and broken fucking mind

>>20843

Nigger who remembers mass shooters? nobody

If you really want to go down in history then kill somebody that matters like a politician or some famous dude. Everyone know who the serb who started WWI was, and people still remember the guy who killed kennedy and the one that killed lennon

Barely anyone remembers rodgers or the guy from vtech

>>20865

The supreme gentleman was a complete retard, he had every chance at getting laid, he could've been getting new pussy every day just promising girls an audition for the hunger games since his dad was the codirector and didnt do it, fucking idiot he was

>>20937

Frog rodgers was rich, his dad was a movie director in hollywood, no matter how you look at it that idiot lived in easy mode and yet managed to fuck it up

>>28180

not even easy mode, Elliot could not even deal with the tutorial level. His failure is so monumental that is akin to missing to score a penalty kick without a goalkeeper and a net that is twice the size.

Someone so retarded could only end up an heroing, is just sad other people had to suffer because of an egotistical moron, he wasn't even clinically retarded , just a douchebag.

>>28180

I mean, Rodgers and the guy from Vtech would be even less memorable if they hadn't done what they'd done. It's maybe the most they (as 'individuals') could possibly have amounted to.

But I agree to an extent - taking out officials and famous people would be more gratifying, and possibly align with goals besides 'make everything worse for everybody and kill more people faster.'