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 No.395037

So I've been thinking about this for awhile now. As a feminine guy who is totally being true to myself and having had a non-existent love life, I've been thinking about this since last Wedneday. A guy hit me up on POF who said he was interested in meeting me. When I went to his profile, I was confused because his profile, he was listed as searching for a "woman". I'm not sure how he found my profile since I'm listed as "man searching for man" but anyway, I humored him and we talked. He said he's always wanted to experiment with a feminine guy and again, totally surprised because he didn't look like the type who would do that.

Eventually he did come out and say he had a girlfriend and I cut it there. But it did get me thinking. In all my experience, I have never attracted gay guys. Always bisexual guys. Maybe it's my look (pics in post historty) but it's always been that way. Always closeted.

On POF, I noticed I always seem to get guys who list themselves as "searching for woman" when I did a recent search for people who viewed my page. I also noticed on Grindr that I always get hit up by profiles that I never see on my own when I search. I always joke and say "I can never find them but they seem to find me". Always the same story though. "DL", "discreet", or "Not out".

Now see… I've been trying to do things authentic by not going for closeted and especially attached men. But they seem to be the guys most interested in me. This last guy who was totally my type had that baggage but he was being super nice to me. He has a girlfriend but he says he really likes feminine guys. I told him that he should break up with his girlfriend if he wants to start pursuing guys but he said he still liked her (Well shit lol). We stopped texting but it did make me think.

Perhaps this is just the way things are and that maybe I should just give in? I know people say that feminine guys should just change themselves to get more interest but I like myself just the way I am. And well… Here are a subset of guys who actively seek me out and claim to really be into me. I'm starting to think that maybe if I just go with it, I can potentially win one over with my personality. Assuming they're into feminine persnonalities that match the look, maybe this can lead to opportunities to finding that special guy. Maybe someone like me can be the "trigger" that pulls them out of the closet. Because like I said, most guys into me are closeted guys. I've tried looking for out masculine gay guys who are into feminine. They hardly exist in my experience but yet here are some bi-curious/bisexual/pansexual guys who maybe, just maybe need that "X-factor" to finally come out if they get with a patient, understanding feminine guy?

I understand and apologize for the post being so long but I'd like to hear from guys who took a risk and indulged with closeted guys. Was the experience positive? Were you able to bring him out of the closet? Because at this point in my life after trying to do things the conventional way with no avail, I think it might be time to just give in and try something a bit different.

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 No.395755

>>395037

You into other femboys? Or just masculine men?

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 No.395758

>I look like a woman

>Why do I keep attracting straight men?

I dunno, man. This mystery might never be solved.

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 No.395772

>>395758

Well yeah, but OP is wondering why he is specifically attracting men who are already in a relationship. Are feminine men just viewed as side bitches and not potential partners?

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 No.395775

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>>395772

Yes. Obviously.

Feminine beauty plus male expendibility.

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 No.395792

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Post a throwaway Kik or something and I can advise you on how to move forward.

I've never been through what you are simply because of how detached from my world I was but music and the people it brings together moved me in a way I didn't think anything could.

A lot going on rn but it'd be nice to talk to someone that doesn't want to grill me.

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 No.395798

There's also the off chance that they're in an open relationship/polyamorous. Which is cool if you are cool with that (some people are, some people are not)

I'd say:

If you want short term sex, and don't care about the rest, go for it.

If you want a long term committed relationship, or are worried about hurting someone, think about it before settling. Also, talk to the parties involved.

This comes from a dude who's mostly in to girls, but likes femboys.

The sad truth is that I would TOTALLY HIT THAT. And I'd love it. But I'm not sure how much my life would let me continue on with and build that relationship.

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 No.395799

>>395037

You could try it I suppose but you have to make sure he's interested in some sort of relationship, even if it's somewhat undercover for now, and he's not just in it to indulge a fantasy before throwing you away, unless you're comfortable with hookups. That means going on actually dates I suppose because clandestine meetings alone will just turn into a hookup. Decent relationships require time too so they'll have to have plenty in order to accomodate you. If they have a girlfriend then guess you will recieve the most attention.

Also you'd be taking a risk in doing this as whoever you're with might decide they're just too comfy with you on the side and you'll never be able to bring him out or if you encourage it as some kind of goal for your relationship and he doesn't want to it could get messy.

Sorry for putting a downer on your idea. In the end anything is possible because everyone is different and living in differant situations so maybe you'll find someone it could work with.

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 No.395803

>>395772

It's rare for straight men to get halfway through their 20's without already being in a relationship. Girls are cheap and plentiful and usually quite desperate because nowadays they start hearing the ticking of their biological clock before they leave college. A gay man in his 30's not in a relationship isn't surprising because only 1 out of 20 men are potential partners; but a straight man has 19 out of 20 women as potentials, so he'd have to be a COMPLETE fuck-up to not land one of them by then.

>Are feminine men just viewed as side bitches

They're kind-of styling themselves as bitches whose only purpose is a fuck-hole, so it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. You dress and style yourself like a whore, you get treated like a whore. Again: what a mystery!

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 No.395837

>>395037

Hey OP, I am exactly the kind of guy you talk about. I am 20-ish, bi and kinda in the closet about it- yadda yadda. As I had some success with traps/cuteboys/twinks, I'll chime in here so you get a picture of the other side for what its worth.

As others have pointed out, a lot of it is down to mindset. I'll give you an example - in this case mine. I always was at least curious about other boys and had some stories with other boys in my past, but nothing serious for one reason or the other. So I often found myself wondering "what would XYZ be like with a boy". Next there is the part about being feminine - and Ill be harsh, feminine men have to deal with a similar clock as women in that regard. Their "attractive" feminine-trades will eventually fade.

Now picture this mindset being imprinted in your brain and then you stumble across posts like 19/m/cockslave/living 10 minutes away - wanting to suck dick - of course this will make you wonder. Especially if there is a pornographic image attached.

Lets say you have some form of contact - what is gonna stop you from texting. Nobody apart from you and them will know. In your head you'll see it like an easy way to answer your own questions.

But at the same time I dont want to step out of the closet as bi - because imo there is still this huge social label that says "this guy is attracted to other guys", even if I am also attracted to women. Its a label thats gonna stick to you. And if you dont have the confidence in yourself to deal with it, there will almost certainly be the thought: "what if I dont like it and I'll have this label stuck to myself". And many guys (me included) are scared shitless of that. insert joke about fragile masculinity here

Sadly, this hurts/kills initial potential for a long term romantic relationship as they are built on confidence and openness and that is why you will have a lot if approaches like the ones you mentioned. Apart from being unfaithful, thats just flat out disgusting and unfair to me.

Now my two-cents on your last question. It is absolutely possible to still find a partner/relationship, as imho men are so much easier to filter through in that regard compared to women. And if you find a guy with similar interests thats nearby, that is attractive and open about what he wants and what not - whats gonna stop you from having a good time?

2 years ago I had an amazing f+ kinda arrangement where I was always open about my intentions and where we would stay in contact via text/phone and meet to talk/play/cuddle/fuck every second week or so. We both got to fulfill urges we had (being vulnerable, sex, even activities). At the same time I kept urging him to keep looking for a romantic relationship as I didnt fit into that role. He eventually met someone, we talked and thinks were fine. And the 4 months we shared like this were so much more fulfilling than being single and relying on the very next opportunity around the corner, as we reassured each other in a way.

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 No.395952

>>395037

I think why you attract guys is because they are straight mostly but see these trap memes and think that fem guys are truly cock sleeves but they think they have a better personality (and look closer to women) than actual gay guys who sleep around alot. Cis guys want to experiment with other guys but cant bring themselves to doing it with real dudes they need a feminine guy to put a wool over their eyes so they can justify it being a girl. I don't think you'll be the spark to make them gay, I believe most of them are happily married or in relationships and would either never talk about it again or even worse break up their long commited relationships and leave them worse off than when they were just curious. Because they will be not only sexually confused but actually alone.

I actually wanna know more on your thinking about this. Just send an email bro I'm actually very interested about your train of thought

Email: sylvabrownt@aol.com

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 No.395953

>>395952

Same goes for anyone. If you have an interesting point or anything just shoot me an email I'm genuinely very curious and get too bored to check this post everyday

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 No.396351

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 No.413650

Exclusively for everyone, it is more convenient to consider certain moments from the side of external attractiveness in an atmosphere of unprecedented pleasure. I was recently advised an extremely attractive offer on this site https://www.shagaholic.com/ and now I'm just in a lot of thought about the future development of events.

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 No.415420

Married men are the biggest degenerstes. Theyre treated as kings by the sex/romance industry bc marriage/family is prized as the ultimate prize. So married men whom cheat on their spouses with barely-legal/underage girls/boys are seen as "champions taking a break".

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