No.645
I have read through this board and several other sources on the net, but it seems that one needs to stumble upon a cuckquean.
Can any of the queans who visit this board give tips to finding others like themselves? Are there any traits or habits one should look for that might indicate a woman has this fetish?
I know this sounds odd, but I can't imagine most women would take kindly to being asked about this fetish during an initial meeting/date. Sure, that would be a great way to find out and is likely the most responsible way to express the desire, I just see it ending badly.
All constructive thoughts/comments are appreciated, regardless of source.
Regards
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No.646
>>645>I can't imagine most women would take kindly to being asked about this fetish during an initial meeting/date.
>"So, uh, if we end up being in a committed long-term relationship might you enjoy the idea of me fucking other women? You can even watch!"Stumbling on a cuckquean is how it happens. You may find it difficult to use as a prerequisite. Often the tendency won't even manifest until one is in a committed LTR, and even then it depends greatly on the kind of partner they're with. If a cuckquean is aware of her tendencies, chances are that she will keep it hidden until she's comfortable revealing it. If you're looking for a 'quean, you may be reducing the chance that you are that kind of partner.
Rather than looking for a cuckquean, perhaps you would be better served becoming a person whom a girl would feel good submitting to in this way and sharing.
The only solid hint is that fetish people (submissives specifically) will give a better chance than the general population.
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No.653
>>646Thanks for responding. While it was what I expected, it isn't what I was hoping.
I was in an LTR (nearly 15 years) where the woman brought up her fantasy (about year 14) of seeing me with another woman, but when I showed interest in it, all hell broke loose.
I guess this is why most men that are approached with this by a woman see it as a trap. Either it is just to test the loyalty or it is to provide an avenue for their desire to be with other men.
I find it frustrating that this can't be more accepted, even discussed without so much anger being generated.
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No.654
>>646> The only solid hint is that fetish people (submissives specifically) will give a better chance than the general population.This is true. Acquire a sub, do FFMs for awhile, and she will likely find that she's grown into a cuckquean. I've had it happen twice.
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No.665
>>653>I was in an LTR (nearly 15 years) where the woman brought up her fantasy (about year 14) of seeing me with another woman, but when I showed interest in it, all hell broke loose.>I guess this is why most men that are approached with this by a woman see it as a trap. Either it is just to test the loyalty or it is to provide an avenue for their desire to be with other men.>I find it frustrating that this can't be more accepted, even discussed without so much anger being generated.That sucks, Anonymous. The fact is that relationships are hard often because people are difficult creatures to get along with. I've heard a few stories of the traps you refer to, but in those cases the girls weren't worth their salt to begin with IMO.
It is unfortunate that such ire and froth happens around fidelity fetishes (though weirdly cuckolding seems more accepted in general than cuckqueaning?), but I do think that the social protections against cheating are more important even if they do mistakenly target us from time to time.
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No.672
>>654Thanks for the advice.
Were your sub(s) were already heteroflexible/bi going into your relationship(s)?
Where do you think they fell on the submissive spectrum (very, 24/7 to lightly, only in the bedroom)?
Were they into the MFFs or were they doing it mostly due to your desires?
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No.673
>>665Thanks for the sympathy. I am trying to find lessons from that relationship that I can use in my future relationships. Since it is still somewhat close, there is quite a bit of pain still lingering.
What I don't think that the people who present the fantasy of cucking realize is that when it is withdrawn it is a betrayal of sorts for us as well. We put our faith into them that they are being truthful with us and when they aren't it hurts.
Now, it could be said that by having the cuck desire, but not acting on it we are not being truthful either. I have done that more to fit in as I have done with most aspects of my life. The choice to fit in was always based upon the belief that it was better to repress than to hurt others by not meeting expectations. I guess it was a type of "for the greater good" attitude. Unfortunately, when that attitude is taught, there is never any discussion as to the ramifications for the "lesser" good.
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No.674
>>672>Were your sub(s) were already heteroflexible/bi going into your relationship(s)?sub1 was very bi. sub2 wasn't.
>Where do you think they fell on the submissive spectrum (very, 24/7 to lightly, only in the bedroom)?sub1 was bedroom only. sub2 is 24/7.
>Were they into the MFFs or were they doing it mostly due to your desires?sub1 was into it from the start. sub2 initially was doing it just for me but found her bi-side fairly quickly.
Still married to sub2.
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No.676
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No.677
>>676Don't know. It just pops up from time to time.
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No.680
>>672Not him, but here's another data point: My 'quean is a 24/7 sub. We've never done any type of threesome (she's not even slightly bi), but her cuckquean nature still emerged and emerged powerfully once she reached a certain point in the relationship and in her submission. I have no idea exactly what that point was, neither does she.
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No.914
I'm dating a cuckquean.
How did I find her?
First, I screened for submissiveness. I looked for a woman who looks for a strong man, and appreciates a guy who takes a bit of control, and who loves her submissive nature.
Second, I screened for bisexuality.
Having found a bisexual submissive (which isn't rare, by the way), I planted the idea of us fucking women together.
Then the idea of me fucking women in front of her.
Then the idea of her bringing women to me.
Then we went to strip clubs together, and got lap dances together.
Then I went out on a date with a hot girl, and told her about it (but nothing happened between us).
Then we went out on a "date" with her hot friend.
Then we fucked her hot friend.
Then we did it some more.
Taking small steps is important to make sure she's emotionally ready for each step you take. Each step brings up some issues, so you can talk them out, and then go onto the next step confidently. It doesn't need to take too long.
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No.915
>>914>I'm dating a cuckquean. I'm married to a cuckquean.
>How did I find her? Let's compare and contrast.
>First, I screened for submissiveness. I looked for a woman who looks for a strong man, and appreciates a guy who takes a bit of control, and who loves her submissive nature. Not necessary but is helpful.
>Second, I screened for bisexuality. Not necessary but is helpful.
>Having found a bisexual submissive (which isn't rare, by the way), I planted the idea of us fucking women together. Not so rare as you would think. Turning a sub into a bi is actually pretty easy. A lot of women don't realize that they're bi until they are introduced to it by a Dom.
>Then the idea of me fucking women in front of her. Not a problem given the previous.
>Then the idea of her bringing women to me. This is a bit more difficult. I got my wife a job as a bartender/cocktail-waitress at a stripclub so her getting women was not a problem.
>Then we went to strip clubs together, and got lap dances together. Stripclubs are a mandatory second date. If she can't do that, I'm done with her. Lap dances for her come later. Makes it easier to hookup with stripper later.
>Then I went out on a date with a hot girl, and told her about it (but nothing happened between us). Yep. Better to score a hookup and be banging her when the wife comes home from work. "Unexpectedly!"
>Then we went out on a "date" with her hot friend. Better when the three of us go on a date. Especially if the friend/sister is much younger.
>Then we fucked her hot friend. Always tasty.
>Then we did it some more. Naturally. Once is good. A dozen times is a hundred times better.
>Taking small steps is important to make sure she's emotionally ready for each step you take. Each step brings up some issues, so you can talk them out, and then go onto the next step confidently. It doesn't need to take too long.Agreed. Just realize that the steps may be different. If your gf/wife is already a raging bi already, things will probably progress much quickly.
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No.916
>>915>Not so rare as you would think. Turning a sub into a bi is actually pretty easy. A lot of women don't realize that they're bi until they are introduced to it by a Dom.How do you go about this? I've tried watching porn while we fuck and asking her about whether she thinks the girls in the video are hot or not, but she just seems grossed by female sexual organs in general.
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No.917
>>916If she's a sub, you should do more telling and less asking.
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No.918
>>916>How do you go about this? In my case, I just had a friend stop (former stripper, btw) by for drinks and things eventually turned into a fmf. My wife had little contact that first time. But that changed over subsequent meetings to the point where she was actually looking forward to being with other women. However, being compersion oriented, her focus was on me being happy.
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No.926
>>914>>915I'm the partner of a cuckquean, her
de facto husband by conduct. Mine did not proceed along the bisexual -> threesome -> cuckquean route.
>First, I screened for submissiveness. I looked for a woman who looks for a strong man, and appreciates a guy who takes a bit of control, and who loves her submissive nature. I did not screen for submissiveness, though I quickly discovered she was submissive.
>Second, I screened for bisexuality. My own cuckquean is not at all bisexual and does not appear to have the capacity to be, nor did I screen for it.
>Having found a bisexual submissive (which isn't rare, by the way), I planted the idea of us fucking women together. We began from the idea not of us fucking women together, but me fucking another woman without her participation. She wanted me to do it for me at first; her own sexual response to it emerged a little later. No deliberate implantation was done.
>Then the idea of me fucking women in front of her. >Then the idea of her bringing women to me. These ideas formed as natural next steps.
>Then we went to strip clubs together, and got lap dances together.Didn't do this.
>Then I went out on a date with a hot girl, and told her about it (but nothing happened between us). We went straight at the sexual angle. First, she fantasised a lot. Then, I conditioned her to strengthen her physical responses to the fantasies. Then, I went out and had fun with a high-class working girl a few times, to safely confirm she enjoyed me fucking when she wasn't there. She did. We worked together to find and remove all guilt and negative emotion she felt around this response until she felt completely at home in it.
>Then we went out on a "date" with her hot friend. >Then we fucked her hot friend. I seduced her hot friend in front of her, then fucked said friend in front of her for a couple of hours. That was the final test and she passed with flying colours.
>Then we did it some more.The rest, as they say, is history.
>Taking small steps is important to make sure she's emotionally ready for each step you take. Each step brings up some issues, so you can talk them out, and then go onto the next step confidently. It doesn't need to take too long.The most important thing. We carefully talked about, prepared her for and repeatedly tested each step, being ready to throw the whole thing out if it absolutely wasn't going to work. It would probably have overloaded and fizzled instead if we had tried to rush or force it. Each step helps reveal the path to the next.
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No.9999
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No.10845
>>915
>Stripclubs are a mandatory second date.
That seems a little extreme.
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No.10847
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No.10851
>>10845
Yeah that's too much. I can like the fetish and not be a complete degenerate that goes to clubs or strip joints. There's a difference between sharing love with multiple women and ogling drugged up whores.
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No.10853
I just checked FetLife for the first time in a while, but did you all know they updated their roles to include cuckquean? The part next to your user name that says "Master/mistress/slave/pet/kinkster/fetishist" can now also say cuckquean.
Seems pretty convenient.
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No.10857
>>10845
If the girl has any issues with going to a stripclub, then we are likely going to have issues later. Plus, she gets to see me and how I interact with mostly naked women. We talk about it afterwards go from there.
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No.10858
>>10853
That's good.
>>10857
The reality is a lot of women and men too just don't like those places and see them as degenerate as >>10851 does. You're cutting off a large proportion of women who distrust or even find disgusting a man who goes to stripclubs. Right or wrong, that is their belief. There probably are nicer places but you can't deny the reputation and baggage they carry.
If it's part of your thing I have no issue with it, I'm just pointing it's not true it means issues are likely (unless I'm missing something). I mean, how many cuckqueans or vixens have ever gone to a stripclub?
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No.10859
>>10857
>>10858
I guess it helps if she's bi. You could build up to it by taking her to Hooters or its equivalent first.
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No.10860
>>10859
That's more palatable. A maid café would be another good choice.
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No.10861
>>10860
>tfw only non-anime-con maid cafe in USA is in NYC
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No.10862
>>10858
>>10859
I am a bit bi but I fucking hate stripclubs and not so much because I am judgemental of the girls' personal morals. The whole atmosphere, from the lighting and the music to the dances and the costumer behaviour has a distinct "complete degeneracy" metaphorical and sometimes literal odor.
I had been in one with friends when I was single just to fool around and I felt extremely uncomfortable. If my husband goes to one I won't really mind but I might cringe a little to the thought.
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No.10875
>>10861
You can request their "personality" so for example act friendly and flirty towards you / your man, dismissive and rude to you / your girl, even going so far as to "accidentally" spill a drink and so on. Amazing service. Just look on search on youtube tsundere maid and things like that.
>>10862
To be fair some of them will just be doing it for the money as a job, and there'll be nothing more to it. Not drug users or anything else of that nature.
>the music
I am the sort of person who would prefer they turn it down to a reasonable level.
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No.10883
>>10875
Shit now I definitely gotta go to Japan.
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No.12571
does fetlife helps to find a cuckquean?
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No.12574
>>12571
Unlikely. Honestly, I'd expect more luck here than fetlife.
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