No.1069877
After watching some footage from the new Harley Quinn show, it hit me.
Batman is 80 years old.
80 fucking years of this shit, of characters whose stories aren't going anywhere, like folk stories about some stock character except everything is controlled by one corporation and its writers. Time changes around him, fairly inconsequential stuff happens and arcs go by, some one-offs even toy with him getting older, but nothing really changes. Batman is never going to end conventionally and the clusterfuck that is comic book canon ensures DC will never write him a satisfying, final conclusion.
Maybe Batman's greatest foe is his own publisher and writers. His world's cruel gods and tormentors, who trap everyone in a neverending, ageless deadlock to wring more money and cultural control out of an old man and his enemies who should have concluded their stories or ascended to the public domain ages ago. Maybe the only satisfying ending Batman can ever have is through creating a new Batman narrative, Batman vs his editors, and through it taking a sledgehammer to the fourth wall and letting the narrative spill out into the real world until Batman's greatest foe, the one he can never defeat himself, is forced to let him go.
Comic books have long flirted with the idea of men being inspired by superheroes to take up masks and fight villainy too. What they do not realize is we already have our masked men, our anons and the pseudonymous internet masses. We are fucking internet capeshit with all the stupid bombast, glamor, and drama that comes along with it and we haven't even taken advantage of that.
Yes, this is crazy. I'm not even sure if it makes any sense to most people. But I think there's also a good idea inside this somewhere and I hope that even if I can't, another anon will.
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No.1069878
Thanks for saying what everyone has been feeling for the last 40 years.
Now, next question, What are you planning to make DC stop forcing Batman? Because it doesn't look like the character is going anywhere.
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No.1069891
>>1069878
Looking back at this thread feels like remembering some epiphany from a dream and realizing it's retarded.
>Now, next question, What are you planning to make DC stop forcing Batman? Because it doesn't look like the character is going anywhere.
Either we need to stop DC from making Batman comics, somehow force them to make better Batman shit, or wrest control of him away from them. The first two are nearly impossible unless DC dies, and the third is unlikely and would either need a change in copyright law or take a bunch of anonymous/pseudonymous drawfags disregarding copyright bullshit and making their own Batman comics. We aren't high energy enough for this shit and it's probably wasted effort just for Batman.
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No.1069946
>>1069891
>The first two are nearly impossible unless DC dies
I keep hearing recently about AT&T threatening to shutter DC and turn them purely into an IP farm, and they're trying another reboot (called 5G or something) to stay relevant now that Didio/Bendis/et all busted all momentum they had with Rebirth.
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No.1069947
>>1069946
They're better off as an IP farm. They're there already. Big two comics have been on life support for decades.
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No.1069951
>>1069891
DC is not going anywhere, even less now since superheroes movies are pretty popular nowadays. There's nothing we can do because it's just how the market works.
The best we can do is to give zero fucks regarding trending stuff like this and focus only on actual good content so more people would start giving attention to it.
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No.1069952
>>1069951
Movie division profits do not contribute to comic division profits.
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No.1069953
>>1069951
good news: no one gives a fuck about the comics market.
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No.1069989
>>1069953
OP does. Otherwise he wouldn't have opened this thread.
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No.1069990
>>1069877
This show is complete garbage, The animation is cheap, the character designs are inconsistent just look at jokers face next to Harley's and try to tell me they look like they're form the same show. The jokes are terrible, the pacing is bad. The characters are shit. Everything about it is shit.
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No.1070108
>>1069878
Reminds me of comic related
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No.1070152
Doesn't matter how hard they try. Harley Quinn is not a good character without the Joker.
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No.1070157
>>1070152
That's because she's only an incompetent airheaded goon who's too mentally damaged herself to not follow Joker. Every time they try to make her her own character, it never works. She becomes a worse Tank Girl trying to be Deadpool. Even the shipping with Poison Ivy makes little sense. Ivy shouldn't have any empathy or love for humans. Friendship is pushing it enough as it is.
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No.1070168
>>1070157
One thing I've always found dumb is that a psychiatrist could even fall for the joker's tricks, or that someone so mentally fragile could even become a psychiatrist.
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No.1070169
>>1070168
That's why Bruce Timm's version, the ORIGINAL version, was explained to have slept her way through college to get her position in the first place.
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No.1070511
>>1069877
>Batman is never going to end conventionally and the clusterfuck that is comic book canon ensures DC will never write him a satisfying, final conclusion.
Batman is never gonna stop coming out but it's had many endings, personally I love the DCAU for exactly this reason, it was long and convoluted, but consistent and finite, with a well thought out ending.
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No.1070522
>>1069990
It's only redeeming quality is that art does not look as bad as it does in most other adult cartoons. CGI blood does get old fast, however. What's even more surprising is that they are not pushing the dyke angle, but instead Poison Ivy has a thing for Kiteman.
It's worst crime is being totally unfunny, followed by 90s feminism which at least is not as bad as its current iteration.
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No.1070526
>>1070522
>>1070522
>What's even more surprising is that they are not pushing the dyke angle
They had her fall on top of Harley like she was a harem protagonist in the fight scene in episode 4.
Poison Ivy is a bisexual, a bi-dyke, a bike. So they can still have her mutch Harley's carpet
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No.1071613
>>1069877
Venture Brothers, it ain't.
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No.1071620
>>1069877
Implying there's nothing interesting in 80 years of Batman comics. Wow aren't you special, that you have better ideas than something 80 years in the making.
With special I mean retarded.
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No.1071621
>>1070108
>I turn to the reader so it becomes funny.
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No.1071625
>>1071620
I'll bite the bait.
He's not saying there's nothing interesting. He's saying there's nothing going anywhere because of constant retcons, rewrites, & reboots making nothing matter.
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No.1071626
>>1071625
Yeah but isn't that the case with literally everything? I prefer one-shots because anything can happen there and they often have a definite end.
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No.1071627
>>1071626
No. Western comics, particularly big two is the only form of written media that constantly goes on and on without any sense strict consistency or progression of story telling.
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No.1071630
>>1069877
>it hit me
>stories aren't going anywhere
You nailed it! Thanks!
Even worse, when someone trying to do something meaningful (or impactful) faggots like Bendis just waltz in and shit on the changes. After too many shitfest there is no other way to save the burning pile of shit than retcon it.
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No.1071767
Why is everyone in this show jewish?
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No.1071770
>>1071767
Because of Hollywood.
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No.1071802
>>1071767
Have you noticed that it's mainly the villains that their show has showcased as Jewish?
>Harley Quinn
>her mom
>Sy (her cyborg Land Lord)
>The Penguin
If anything one could argue that the show is a little red pilled
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No.1071805
>>1071802
I mean… the show is about villains.
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