No.3286
>tfw you realize most computer and electrical hardware will at most last like 20 years (even in ideal conditions) and that electronics are way more fallible than living organisms (can easily be destroyed with an EMP from a strategically placed nuke), ruining the plot of any "LE ROBOTS ARE GONNA KILL US MOVIE"
Microchips have a half life of like 10 years, not to mention moving parts like fans or hard drives which have a lifespan the fraction of a chip
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No.3287
But Anon, that also means that our potential robot waifus won't last particularly long and will be quite fragile.
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No.3347
I don't see this as an issue. If anything I see this as a good thing. Think of all the hours you'll spend with your robo waifu taking her apart, cleaning her parts, replacing some, giving her upgrades as time progresses. Sure you'll eventually replace a good amount of her parts over the years but you will have fun spending time with her, working so intimately on her insides, and making her your own.
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No.3348
>>3347
Once you've replaced all her parts, is she the same robo waifu?
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No.3350
>>3348
If your car
>Implying you have one
Breaks down and you need a new [part of the week] is it not still your car?
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No.3386
>>3350
I see you've not heard of the grandfathers bike paradox hmm?
One day, your grandfather gives you his bike, saying he doesn't need it anymore.
After some time, the front tire pops, so you need a new tire.
later the rear tire pops, and you need to replace.
After some more time, the handlebars get bent, so you replace them.
Then the chain breaks, Then the gears loose teeth, then the chassis rusts, then the rims crack, until finally every part of the bike has been replaced… but it's still your grandfathers bike isn't it?
but then you take all those old broken pieces and put them back together… and you have two bikes
but if you have two bikes… which one is your grandfathers bike?
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No.3390
>>3386
They're the same because every replacement part became a part of the bicycle at that moment. After time the wear and tear patterns on the new part, whether scratches or dust or whatever, make it the same bike.
It's comparable to succeeding generations of a nation. Sure, the people will be somewhat different at certain decades of time, but the nation still bears its name and certain other traits remain the same, so it is the same nation.
Unless you just replace all the people with outsiders that have absolutely nothing to do with the nation, of course. That would be a bit like replacing bike parts with parts from a lawn mower.
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No.3393
>>3386
>>3390
Well regardless of weather or not it's the original waifu, I personally enjoy doing repairs and upgrades. Yeah she might change over time but you still out a lot of work and time into her and she's still yours. It's not so much as to who owns the parts so much as to the idea of the object that gives you ownership.
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No.3394
>>3386
But if grandpa gave you a bike, it's not grandpa's, it's yours until you give it back. Then it's grandpa's bike, whatever it is.
Objects are not their constituents, but how we relate to them. So if you rebuild her, and you love her the same, she's the same.
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No.3430
Nonsense. All hardware can be repaired, all parts can be replaced, all electronics can be shielded. That's why they're so enviable. You could theoretically have a machine working for thousands of years with minimal interruptions. A man won't work for more than eight or so decades before he will be irreparably damaged. It can't be helped.
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No.3437
>>3286
>somebody reposted my shitpost thread from /tv/ here
I'm so proud.
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No.3438
>>3286
Anon, robots can still kill us all. They may have a short lifespan but they can go to the robot hospital (a factory) and get repaired just like a human.
We are at a point in manufacturing where robots/ai make decisions and solve problems. The only thing humans are used for is final quality checking and maintenance.
google industry 4.0
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No.3447
>>3286
>most computer and electrical hardware will at most last like 20 years (even in ideal conditions)
and your source for this "fact" would be?
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No.3449
>>3447
Yeah this doesn't at all explain why my cathode rays and 85 compaq still function. Also you can just replace the parts piece by piece thus extending the life indefinitely.
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No.3460
>>3447
It's false.
I actually work with electronics and the only thing that kills them is heat. Most circuits aren't being properly cooled because the damage ("drift" in most components) only occurs over time. Then it's something small like a capacitor fries or a resistor dies. Those are cheap and easy to replace, and if you want you can absolutely design redundant systems with more than enough heat management that they can run virtually forever.
The hard things to replace are custom chips. Replacing something with custom logic or firmware built-in is pretty hard and more and more these things do all the real work because they take up less space and are always getting cheaper.
Everything OP mentioned is a technical challenge more than anything. EMP? Shielding exists, and you can design to minimize impact. Struck by lightning? You can design for that. Long life? Accuracy? You can design for that.
Most devices trade it off. The only reason your 20-30 year old electronics die is because 20+ years with no real heat management and older, less-accurate parts is eventually going to put it out of operational parameters. You can also fix these for like ten cents. They were made to be cheap, not last forever. Compare to high-end servers… some have been running for 40-50 years without a reboot. The airlines still have the same mainframe from back then. They just hack new interfaces on top. These things are ticking time bombs, but mostly just because the software is a hack job on top of a thousand other hack jobs, not because they're likely to die any time soon. Mid-century high-end electronics could probably last 70-100 years with a little maintenance, clean energy flow, and a clean environment.
20 years is really not a bad run if we're talking about the cheap calculator that you keep in a hot, dusty room. OP should remember that next time his electronics die.
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No.3461
>>3460
Gray Fox? More like Gay Fox xddd
Because he's a BDSM freak who practically fucking howls at Snake to hurt him more.
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No.3471
>>3286
It’s not “robots” that we need to worry about specifically it’s AI
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No.3547
>>3460
>"drift" in most components
Is it creep buildup or something else? I'm not very familiar with what causes circuitry to fail aside from the obvious.
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No.3549
>>3460
>some have been running for 40-50 years without a reboot
>[citation needed]
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No.3550
>>3471
>we need to worry about … AI
< I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid we can't do that.
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No.3653
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No.3740
>>3286
There are UNIX systems running shit like phone switches that were installed in the seventies and are still running, without any maintenance or human intervention. There are seventies/eighties era computers still pushing building systems to this very day, again without maintenance or intervention. What in the literal fuck are you talking about?
https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/infrastructure/a16010/30-year-old-computer-runs-school-heat/
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No.3774
>tfw companion bots become a thing they will quite literally be uncanny valley human normieshit
>tfw other forms of companion bot will not happen simply because a company large enough to make them right now wouldn't deal with fringe niche stuff but mainstream, largest audience stuff.
>tfw no, and probably never, quad robot buddy nor exposed synthetic muscle fiber/light chassis plating waifu
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No.3788
>>3740
>without any maintenance or human intervention. There are seventies/eighties era computers still pushing building systems to this very day,
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No.3805
Yet another reason why your waifu's machine intelligence should operate on virtual machine opcodes.
This way, you just implement the OS / hardware architecture abstraction layer on whatever new system is available and move her mind cleanly over to the new chassis.
Bonus: Disparate hardware platforms can more easily share memories / batch processing, etc.
Imagine a mind that is implemented upon multiple systems / types and you just add some new processing nodes to the miniature cluster as older ones fail.
I mean, VMs and RAID arrays already exist… this is a solved problem, IMO.
Multicellular organisms = [organic] cluster computers.
This has all happened before, and will all happen again. Sentient machines are inevitable… I know so for a fact.
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No.3807
>>3740
>systems from 40+ years ago that are still running
We can only hope that our dream machines won't run on fucking COBOL, at least.
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