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Where is my mind

Definition of apocalypse

1a: one of the Jewish and Christian writings of 200 b.c. to a.d. 150 marked by pseudonymity, symbolic imagery, and the expectation of an imminent cosmic cataclysm in which God destroys the ruling powers of evil and raises the righteous to life in a messianic kingdom

Your can't always get what you want, but if you try some time, you just might find

You get what you need

Not to split hairs, but I think maybe he is talking about spiritual sobriety.

The flood is coming. A flood of information like an apocalypse

There is clearly genesis 1:29

Psychoactive plants have been at the root of mysticism since the beginning of man.

And Christianity is nothing without mysticism

The church is a corporate structure that allows for the pursuit of God.

But the pursuit of God galena internally. It actually has nothing to do with any church.

I would even challenge you to look into the pagan adaptations of Christian tradition. Plenty of evidence suggests psychoactive mushrooms are a part of the culture that Christians adopted to coopt pagan traditions

Genesis 1:29 said all the plants are for us to use. And I don't see anywhere it is forbidden except the fruit from the tree of the knowledge of God and Evil

It all starts here

It's funny that you think plants that expand your mind are not medicine…

Keep drinking your coffee and cigarettes all week, and numb out on alcohol on the weekends.

Throw in the fluoride and cocktail of benzodiazepines and opiates in your water and atrazene (turns frogs homosexual) sprayed on your food.

What is so hard to understand? Mental /cultural/emotional conditioning that prevents you from experiencing the self in God.

When you look at sacred geometry. It mirrors cellular mytosis perfectly. Yes we are made in his image, but it's not our mind. It's our entirety.

The flower of life is the language of life.

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>>847661

That's play pretend mysticism. I tried psychedelics and didnt become any more enlightened, its spiritual porn. That some blmtard thinks he is mystic when he is really satanic reveals plenty.

Real mysticism is obtained through going up the ladder of sanctity and reaching the stages of infused contemplation where God Himself reaches to us showing more and more of Himself.

Read St.Teresa of Avila or St.John of the Cross for real mysticism.

Play pretend mysticism?

That's s pretty big assumption. Your saints only discovered mysticism through Egyptian occultism.

The Rosicrucian or the Order of the Golden Dawn are a better place to start. John Dee perhaps. Also the Book of Balanius the wise on the Causes or the book of the secret of creation and the nature of reality

So you tried drugs and didn't get enlightened? Must be the plants fault.

Who don't we call plants magic buckwheat, or magic aloe vera. Magic potatoes?

But they are called MAGIC mushrooms. I wonder why

psychedelic plants are nearly all good ,but not plant with dead carcasses on them. Matthew 5:17-20 King James Version (KJV)

17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Malachi 3

6 “For I the Lord do not change; therefore you, O children of Jacob, are not consumed. 7 From the days of your fathers you have turned aside from my statutes and have not kept them.

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They reached high levels of mysticism through sanctification and the cross, it doesnt come about by magic pills or hidden knowledge.

Its as simple and hard as being a saint. You can be a plebeian who never read a book in your life and can barely write and reach the higher stages of union with God like St.Faustina.

You can read their writings and you'll find nothing related to egypt or the occult. Its purely through rising the ladder of holiness and accepting the inevitable crosses with love.

>>847681

I tried those, it was interesting but we can go to psychedelics forums or listen to Mckenna and we dont feel like being in the presence of enlightened dudes, they say the same crap as everyone else.

Watch this series, its about the ladder we are supposed to climb for union with God and its stages:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLejh_e0-LN4zWkJaGGMwAeZMnl4letR6e

What do you think the burning bush was OP?

Φάρμᾰκον (phármacon) is the Greek word for drug and the source of the word "pharmacy" and related terms. In translations of the New Testament, φᾰρμᾰκείᾱ (pharmakeíā) is rendered as "sorcery", and φαρμακός (pharmacós) as "sorcerer". This is probably because animist or shamanistic ceremonies often employ the use of entheogenic substances to induce trances. From this it would appear that the concern of Paul and the inceptive Christian movement could have in part been over people making false claims of divine inspiration from being under the effects of narcotic substances; which brings to mind the modern day stories of drugged individuals behaving erratically in public and claiming they're God or seeing demons.

https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/morph?l=fa%2Frmakon&la=greek&can=fa%2Frmakon0&prior=a)/llo&d=Perseus:text:1999.01.0091:card=266&i=1#lexicon

https://biblehub.com/str/greek/5331.htm

In spite of what views churches might have regarding recreational substances, it is evident that different drugs affect people varyingly and present a debate over how they should be judged. Cannabis typically won't intoxicate a person to the extent that alcohol is capable of but can have a more acute narcotic effect than a temperate consumption of alcohol. Tobacco use typically hasn't been treated as a banishable offense by churches. Then there's the coca plant from where cocaine is extracted, which has been chewed by native Andean peoples for ages to control their pressure at higher altitudes and prevent altitude sickness, and has multiple therapeutic and medicinal uses and health benefits. When Bolivian advocates travelled to a meeting in the US to educate officials about the plant, they presented some leaves and passed them around and it was reported that some of the officials turned their noses away in fear that they would get intoxicated from merely smelling them. Kava, qat, and betel nut are other stimulants popularly consumed in the world.

It wasn't until the High Middle Ages that the distillation of alcoholic spirits began to spread. Their strong concentration of alcohol content arguably makes them have little more than an intoxicative purpose. The popular English translation of Hebrew שֵׁכָר (shêkhār) as "strong drink" originated in the early modern era and is disputable due to the varying interpretations of it in other languages and in older traditions such as the Greek of the Septuagint where it's rendered as "mead" and in Latin as "cider", both being popularly attested alcoholic beverages during antiquity.

Excerpt from Euripedes, The Bacchae

—For two things, young man, are first among men: the goddess Demeter—she is the earth, but call her whatever name you wish; she nourishes mortals with dry food; but he who came afterwards, the offspring of Semele, discovered a match to it, the liquid drink of the grape, and introduced it to mortals. It releases wretched mortals from grief, whenever they are filled with the stream of the vine, and gives them sleep, a means of forgetting their daily troubles, nor is there another cure (phármacon) for hardships. He who is a god is poured out in offerings to the gods, so that by his means men may have good things.