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Romans 12:19-21
>Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
>Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.
>Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.
Now if you don't believe in God, this makes no sense, but if you do believe in God, this makes sense.
Basically people who still want to avenge themselves despite what Jesus taught in the New Testament do not believe God will keep His side of His word. They don't think God will judge every action in the end. And if they are nonbelievers then it doesn't make much sense for them to claim to be Christians at all, so they should stop.
>God gives us many many commands to do exactly that, kill blasphemers and heretics.
In Romans 13, it delineates how the state is in charge of handling civil law. Thus there is no reason to be ultra-pacifist or oppose the death penalty or other laws. Simply, these need to be executed by the state, not by lone vigilantes or the church: see as an example: the U.S. from 1783 to about 1960, before secular humanism became the state religion.
>However when the issue rises with the Baptists, they always hide behind free speech
That is the law of this land, and law breakers are the ones who need to be handled by law enforcement. For example, the people (mainly talmudists and progressives) who want to enforce their own subjective speech codes today. That is also why people left Europe to come to America.
>or property rights
Do you not believe in property rights? Do you think owning property is a modernist construct or what?
Acts 5:3-4
"But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?
Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power?"
Owning property and capital is a Biblical concept. Try actually reading the New Testament sometime and see all the instances where people owned things.
>is found nowhere in The Bible.
Owning property is found in the Bible.
>If they really and truly read The Bible and believed in only The Bible, they would look quite similar to the Catholic Church during the so-called dark ages
Where is an example where any church caused someone to be killed or thrown in prison? Where did the churches of our Lord Jesus Christ cause the government/empire to enforce their rules on society? And punished it by death? Show me one example? You have any book of the New Testament to show me this.
What you're thinking of are examples of the state enforcing laws, not the church. Two different things. People who muddle and mix them are throwing the Bible out the window.
>as we all know, Jesus Christ did not overturn any of the commands in the Old Testament but even reaffirms them.
That's why I believe in a strong state that will defend the country and throw out foreign drug dealers. No problem with any of that, but when you try to get communist style speech codes being implemented wide-scale that is against the founding of this country and always has been. In fact people left Europe because of that. It is degenerate and corrupt because the enforcers never follow their own rules. And doesn't follow from Scripture. If you want to live in north korea or somewhere you are not allowed to speak then go there. They would not tolerate your shenanigans like anyone here does.
>Many cling to this belief so strongly that they consider good works to be evil in and of themselves.
Example please. I suspect you are just making this up out of some kind of misplaced anger. Maybe the Lord blessing those who follow his Word is messing up your pride perhaps?
All you'd do is create another soviet style state. By the corrupt elite who never apply their own rules to themselves. If that's what you want and you think it would succeed, or match up with the propaganda you have been told, it would just be north korea 2.0, at the end of the day. Everyone else would be executed.
>They probably would express hostility toward a theocratic authoritarian government like the one God set up for Israel, claiming that God wouldn't want anybody to force his will on anybody else and signifying that they know Gods will better even than God himself.
You are now describing anarchists.
You realize that Christians have a long history of writing the founding documents that describe the United States definition? Doesn't the history of the United States kind of disprove your theory that they are anarchists following NAP? Forget the fact that there are subversive elements that want to overthrow the country. You can't use them as examples, because they are essentially the problem to be dealt with and the enemies of the truth.
Sage because this is a pointless thread