Let me get this straight, please..

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Let me get this straight, please.. † 09/05/20 (Sat) 11:48:12 c06386 No.845125

Basically,

Anything that feels good, is ultimately a tool of satan.

And, the fruit of the spirit is something one must abstain from worldly pleasure to experience.

Long suffering is the main fruit it seems.

I suppose this is good, everything that is bad will be good at first after-all,

But how the fack does one winnie the pooh bear misery every single facking day? Don't feed me some BS about gratitude, this barely helps oneself get up and take a shower in this constant dread, let alone jump for joy.

I understand gratitude, I think. It, too, is not about giving you good feelings, more so about reminding oneself that he has the breath of life.

To me, it seems like you either accept a life of misery, and trust God that it is worth it, or you take Pfizer medication for depression and facking go fly kites or some crap.

I became a christian to help people, and now I am begging God everyday to just help me eat food and wash myself after facking feeling like I have been sucked of all of my life for 2 months.

I keep telling myself it is so that one can learn a deeper meaning about suffering, and use that to help others.

But, I guess that is silly, I will keep begging God while thanking him for having what I need.

Paradoxical? Very much so. But, I accept that he is more than mere human thought.

Dont know what to say really. Or even what I just said, all facked up I suppose? Good? All things work together for good, I must tell myself and force the sarcasm out of my voice, because, of trust.

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† 09/05/20 (Sat) 11:53:40 c06386 No.845126

I also denounce satan etc, this post was written by a smelly unbathed for 2 months believer, whom is full of hope in christ, and whom was a fully functional clean heathen a few years ago.

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† 09/05/20 (Sat) 15:38:31 dfb93e No.845138

Given that the impious are miserable, I don't see how serving God is not the best life there is.

Do not suppose grace is given by those who think they are bribing God by abstention.

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† 09/05/20 (Sat) 16:13:25 d7cc18 No.845141

>>845125

I have had a similar enough experience, although I don't think that the ultimate fruit of the spirit is long suffering, or maybe it is, given that God is long suffering, but I would have to explain long suffering as a quality founded on God's true love for sinners. I think there is an additional advantage though; before you were ignorant of all the evil in the world and in yourself. That evil existed though, and could have devoured you at any second.

From these evils, my only defense is prayer, my only consolation is that everything I consider myself to be is quite irrelevant. So if I am ever crushed, I know I can get up.

>>845126

It's hard to get any work done, which I know is sinful. I will try praying for the energy to work, for the both of us.

>>845138

I don't understand this beyond the first sentence. I know it was not addressed to me, but I'm too sinful for much abstention. God won't allow me to exalt myself by such half-baked means. If I could, then I would have too much vanity.

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† 09/05/20 (Sat) 16:49:48 c06386 No.845143

>>845138

>>845141

I really do not know what he is, but I know that I cannot and will not go against his plans.

I will leave it there.

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† 09/05/20 (Sat) 17:15:55 6ba0db No.845144

You're supposed to give up pleasures you don't need and replace them with things that show love of God and your fellow man. These given up pleasures don't have to be a sin e.g. giving up playing games and using that time to read the Bible is a good thing that brings you closer to God

I don't think giving up bathing falls in that category.

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† 09/05/20 (Sat) 17:35:12 c06386 No.845149

>>845144

right. anyway, as i've said, i don't know what he is, but I will leave it alone. His plan is the only plan. I prayed for how to devote my life to helping people in a meaningful way that would leave them better off, and reverse the exponential suffering that is occurring.

I was quickly, and very rapidly drained of literally all of my strength, I did not WANT to eat, I felt completely attacked.

You may rationalize this as you WILL, but I sought truth. I have found it.

His plan is final.

Try praying for something that goes against it, you may see.

But, you probably dont really give a crap about really helping people (like most christians), so .. have fun with your prayers, I can tell you with certainty, that they may be selfish, or self-less, but they are not carefully constructed - nor well-thought in terms of defeating evil. Mine were.

I apologize if I am being rude, I am speaking the truth, and this is probably going to hurt me, I am learning to stop this day by day. It is hard.

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† 09/05/20 (Sat) 17:45:30 14ff03 No.845152

>>845125

>Anything that feels good, is ultimately a tool of satan.

No. Pleasure is not inherently good or evil just like pain is also not inherently good or evil. I remember having this mindset when I was still a protestant and it made me miserable like you. It's not a sin to play video games or listen to music or drink a beer or two but allowing pleasure to control your life is bad not only morally but bad for your health. Ecclesiastes ch. 3 says that there is an appointed time for everything, that includes recreation.

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