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d60246  No.844820

What are some arguments against atheism and in particular Matt Dillahunty's gumball analogy which he uses to prove that asking for proof of God's non-existence is shifting the burden of proof away from a positive claim to a negative.

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21da04  No.844822

>>844820

Well, nobody should ask for a proof of God's non-existence. Every sensible person from Anselm to CS Lewis on the Christian side, and from Epicurus to Bertrand Russel on the atheist side has known that the burden of proof is on Christians to prove the existence of God. Otherwise, no Christian apologia would be necessary.

I've never heard of this neckbeard though, and as I've said above, it seems that this argument of his is so starkly obvious that nobody needed to say it. So maybe you need to find better books on the subject. I can recommend CS Lewis' Mere Christianity as a good start to learning about apologism.

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4c88ee  No.844857

Atheists talk about proof when they mean convincing.

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1036a7  No.844872

Proof of the supernatural? The big bang.

Proof of The Christian Triune God? revelations of Jesus Christ, our Lord and Our God.

Faith is a gift. You have to get on your knees and beg as a dog at the table for it. Then you have to accept it.

I'm not going to try and prove it to people who love sin. There's no point.

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60071a  No.844905

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Jay destroyed this guy.

https://www.invidiou.site/watch?v=AajJBhdRpDA

https://www.yout ube.com/watch?v=AajJBhdRpDA

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a0cf88  No.844906

>>844872

As an atheist, gave me your best evidence or what ever witnesses there are to Jesus like a list, because I forgot what they were in the first place

Is it tenacitius or what ever

and John?

Can any anon refresh my memory?

I am also speaking of historical evidence.

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a0cf88  No.845179

LOL why no one responding?

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1036a7  No.845200

>>845179

>why no one responding?

Because you argue in bad faith. You don't want discussion, you want to anger people with trolling.

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bfb376  No.845210

“Please answer my questions that have already been answered centuries ago.”

Arguments against atheism have already been put forth it’s not our fault atheists are uneducated. I’ve heard some wild arguments against Aquinas like multiverses and self replicating universes that they have yet to prove. Sorry but the burden of proof is in fact on the atheist.

Put together your best rebuttals and attempt to debunk the non-Christian pagan records of Christ and we’ll see how they hold up.

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a0cf88  No.845502

>>845200

No for real I literally forgot the list of witnesses and names who mention Jesus and paul, I want to investigate.

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b45738  No.845554

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a0cf88  No.845678

>>845210

Bump because I genuinely want them answered.

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50376e  No.845680

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>845554

Link doesn't work for me. Found this with same title on youtube.

https://www.invidiou.site/watch?v=QbiV-Q1wJrE

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a0cf88  No.845694

>>845210

Hello?

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9eb025  No.845699

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2b3383  No.845701

>>845179

It's a bad thread.

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d7bc1c  No.845756

>>844820

>gumball analogy which he uses to prove that asking for proof of God's non-existence is shifting the burden of proof away from a positive claim to a negative.

This is true and it is nearly impossible to prove a negative and since you shouldn't believe in anything that is not 100% scientifically provable, not believing in God is illogical.

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445319  No.845793

A sword through the gut

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