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Also, judging by Hebrews 6, even if Christ is real I lost all my chances for redemption.

Sorry, forgot my old flag in the OP

Read my testimony in this thread. It's not over yet anon. Buddhism is nihilistic and anti-life.

https://8kun.top/christian/res/843450.html

Buddhism glorifies death and not life.

Think all you want about Steven Anderson and his personal views, but this sermon nails it about Buddhism's relationship with eternal death and glorifying self and death and not God.

https://www.invidiou.site/watch?v=X8Du2Y5xhtU

I also suggest attending an Orthodox Catechism and taking as much notes as you can as your life depends on it. Because it will change New Age/Eastern ways of thinking and directly translate it into a Christian way of looking at the universe.

The Bible doesn't get it's authority from the church, it's the other way around.

Your inability to put away sin or liking Buddhism doesn't have any relevance to the question of whether the Christian God is the true God.

>I just can't possibly justify why some people are born severely ill and suffer immensely and others have a lot of wealth, and some die at a very young age while others live to 100 or more.

So the moral problem? Have you read much Christian writing on this one?

>I'm pretty sure the Church did something to the original scriptures and I'm sure that we have no way of knowing what Christ actually did and said.

For what reason?

>>844648

Thank you. I need a while to digest your testimony

>>844650

>Buddhism glorifies death and not life.

Not at all. Buddhism teaches that there's no eternal soul, separate from all other beings and things. And once you realize you're one with everything, your false "self" ceases to exist and you assume your real nature.

>glorifying self and death and not God.

>not God.

there is not concept of sentient, creator, judge God in Buddhism and there's no eternal self, but I admit that in Christian terms, it is PURELY a works-based salvation.

>>844651

>The Bible doesn't get it's authority from the church, it's the other way around.

The Bible was objectively made by the Church and decided upon the canon books in the councils.

>Your inability to put away sin or liking Buddhism doesn't have any relevance to the question of whether the Christian God is the true God.

Completely agree. It's just what made me doubt it. The decision was influenced by my issues with guilt, but it was ultimately rational.

>Have you read much Christian writing on this one?

Maybe not enough. Could you source me some writings please?

>For what reason?

Because they claimed infallibility through the Holy Spirit (you cannot disagree or you're unforgivable) and then decided within councils, along with political leaders on which teaching is correct and which is not.

While there's no way of knowing whether Buddha said this or that, He encourages people to analyze His teaching thoroughly and only practice them if you actually agree. He doesn't claim divinity or demand worship. There is no feeling of guilt involved.

>>844652

>The Bible was objectively made by the Church and decided upon the canon books in the councils.

That's like saying the scientific world made the elements of the periodic table.

The authority of any books inspiration rests on nobody's decree. It was inspired at the time of writing.

> Could you source me some writings please?

My favorite and the most accessible is mere Christianity. Harder stuff would be William lane Craig or Norman geisler.

>Because they claimed infallibility through the Holy Spirit (you cannot disagree or you're unforgivable) and then decided within councils, along with political leaders on which teaching is correct and which is not.

What events are you referring to and what does this have to do with the reliability of scripture, or alleged changes?

The apostles received authority from Jesus. They wrote the new testament scriptures. Later, Christians debated about interpretation which still persists today (this is a good thing)

>>844646

>I just can't possibly justify why some people are born severely ill and suffer immensely and others have a lot of wealth, and some die at a very young age while others live to 100 or more.

The lack of a God would not end their suffering, the reality of him would. Either you believe their suffering cannot be redeemed, or you believe that it can

I have to know. What is your problem with Hebrews ch. 6?

Also, I don't see how Buddhism solves your perceived problem with suffering or inequality.

>>844744

Agreed, suffering to me is actual pain, only an indolent person can say that suffering is inclusive of boredom.

>>844806

If you've never experienced a lack of physical pain or lack of need, then perhaps you need to be a bit more compassionate to understand that human nature is such that not having problems is maddening and soul crushing.

LARP

You were never Christian

>>844808

I know it is soul crushing and maddening to have no problems, I'm a millennial too. But I refuse to rank my suffering with those who are in pain and in need. I know you agree with me. Please don't take my words as suggesting that I think you are a bad person for mentioning your sufferings. But because you also have circumspection to know which kind of suffering you would choose, namely the same that you already have, you must also know that the Buddha was just another rich kid who found New Age religion.

I find the idea of suffering in Buddhism stale and as boring as the boredom it thinks suffering is.

>>844646

>which was decided upon and pretty much made by the Church

By your fruits you shall know them, Cathodox…

>>844815

I pity the fools of New Age, but I believe you're psychologically immature.

Boredom attacks when others stop. Stopping physical suffering would not reduce the amount of suffering in the world, it would only be transfigured.

When man does not serve, he suffers. Man was made to serve God, this alone helps.

>>844870

I agree with you, your opinion is better than mine.

I suppose a better argument against Buddhism is that they have no regard for the poor and disfigured, but believe that they deserve it due to their doctrine of reincarnation. Buddhist apologists always deny this, but every Buddhist society is just made worse by being more Buddhist; a classic example is Singapore, where possessing 50 grams of cocaine gets the death penalty. Buddhism is uncharitable and cruel in practice, and ridiculous in theory.

>>844913

A fun fact is thay Origen has made the same argument about souls existing prior to conception. He said babys born with defects must've sinned prior to their birth.

I'm sorry that you found a fat Asian guy more appealing than the omnipotent creator of the universe that loved His creation enough to die for it in human form. I'm sorry that a non-structured free for all joke of a religion was more appealing than 2000 years of God reigning on earth through His Church.

Please reconsider and I wish you all the best.

>>844962

I can see why Origen is not known as St Origen. What a crackpot idea; everyone ought to know that our own creation is ex-nihilo, just like the universe was made ex-nihilo.

>>844646

I was a Buddhist and Buddhist is mystixally empty.

Its really just a science of the Mind, and a prescribed ethos that makes it easier to live with our minds. The whole pointof Buddhism is to see reality without our perceptions.

In feels hollow and empty because Buddhism, not the corruption of Tibet, and Chinese Buddhism, true Buddhism of the elders is as pure as leaf falling from the sky. Its just a teaching how to alleviate suffering. Theres no god, devas, or spirits. Its just you, your mind and your action.

While I use rhw Buddhas teachings to make peace with myself and my mind and the world, the grand framework is still not answered. The mystery component of spirituality, this is where Christ fills my void.

And its grea because the precepts of Buddhism is highly compatible with Christ’s ethos. This is where we find commonalities between the religion, which is the golden rule.

In Buddhism we have 5 precepts,

1. No killing

2. No stealing

3. No sexual misconduct (rape, adultery)

4. No lying

5. No Drugs

Its very familiar to the last half of the Ten a commandments except for the explicit banning of intoxicants

5. You shall not murder

6. You shall not commit adultery.

7. You shall not steal.

8. You shall not bear false witness

Christ fulfills and is the bridge to the Creator, the Father, the almighty. The Buddha doesnt claim anything but to be free from all humanly suffering he is still man.

Christ however goes beyond and proclaims his divinity and affirms that we are and can be Saved through him and with him. This is untestable until we meet the Almighty when we depart from the Earth, this is taken on by faith.

So Buddhism on its own will bring you peace doesnt require you to believe or imposes a belief in an after life. It is primarily concerned about your time om Earth alone.

However both religions emphasize the importance of action. “ye shall know rhwm by their fruits” and karma are essentially based on causality. Our actions and their results speaks for us. In both religions they are merits that are to be considered our treasures in the after lofe.

In buddhism nothing dies, and is simply transferred to another vessel. Your actions determine which vessel you recieve.

However that is entirely optional, and not required. Whats not optional is the concept of Karma and that you are the owner of the results of your actions.

To me Buddhism is a tool to alleviate suffering through meditation. Christianity is my lifestyle, my code, and my life.

>>845212

Pardon the errors im phonepostif.

>>844646

What about the idea that all the major religions have mostly the same message, just using different symbols, i.e. perennialism? I think learning about one religion can help the understanding of other religions. Christians for the most part seem to interpret scripture too literally IMO.