Has the bible been changed ?

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Has the bible been changed ? † 08/31/20 (Mon) 19:28:06 fa9089 No.844642

I watched this video about changes in the bible:

https://www.invidiou.site/watch?v=XKp4yWGTfXo

It says the bible has been changed. I thought the bible was word of God and I still think it is but if so then how can it be changed and do these changes matter ?

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† 08/31/20 (Mon) 19:36:47 618429 No.844644

How odd this comes up today. Yesterday I was reading the Catechism of Saint Thomas Aquinas and came across where he quotes the Bible and the foot note said the passage was omitted in the NAV.

I checked both the Knox and Douay Rheims American version, and it not there, either. It referenced a very politically incorrect passage about women.

Saint Tom and I, we have different Bibles! I need to learn to read Latin!

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† 08/31/20 (Mon) 20:59:44 b348d4 No.844653

It has not been changed. The only sense in which you could say the Bible has been changed is miniscule mistakes between manuscripts. The sentence "the Bible has been changed" is at best deliberately misleading and at worst an outright lie. The Bible isn't like an econ textbook that has different editions.

From the video

>Jesus would have spoken in Aramaic, so the modern Bible is a translation of a translation

No, it's a direct translation of the inspired scripture in Greek

>Some cases Aramaic to Greek to Latin to English

Only for Douay Rheims larpers like this guy>>844644

Nobody else uses translations of translations except for very long ago or on the mission field for unreached peoples, and even then it's only a temporary fix

>The ESV is a translation of the RSV

no, retard

>Which is a revision of ASV

correct

>Which is a translation of ERV

no, retard

>Which is a revision of KJV

correct

This is not a change to the Bible

>Various manuscripts comprise our source of the biblical texts

Obviously

>Manuscripts have variants

There is no plausible variant reading which has any real impact on doctrine.

>citing Bart Ehrman

Shill

>Did you know the gospels were written without titles??

I'm not watching any more of this crap

OP I blame my annoyance on you for putting this in front of me

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† 08/31/20 (Mon) 22:23:47 4021cb No.844664

>>844653

>>Various manuscripts comprise our source of the biblical texts

These impious fools can spin anything in their favor. When there are too few manuscripts, it's a problem. Many, also a problem.

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† 09/01/20 (Tue) 04:30:23 286bbc No.844693

>>844644

What particular verse was that? Any verse that speaks harshly of women is truly needed today.

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† 09/01/20 (Tue) 05:00:50 dbad72 No.844694

So I'm going to go out on a limb but I feel it needs to be said in case some weaponized autism can expose a possible conspiracy. Christianity worships "Jesus" but in the early days of the Church up until the reformation churches always put the most emphasis on the wisdom book of Sirach and Sirach's first name is literally Jesus. I wonder if the other books of the Bible which seem to deeply contradict this super popular book in ancient Christendom were just added in by kikes to subvert and the Church just went along with it even though it's bad, because what are you going to do just take their Bibles away? (wink wink) To this day, kikes are still trying to get extra books added into the Bible, whether Enoch or gnostic gospels or whatever and they've successfully got Sirach rejected from most mainstream Bibles. Even a lot of Catholic Bibles are missing them now to fit in with Protestants. I know this is a pretty daring post to make on a Christian board but I hope someone with stronger autism than me who's willing to take the plunge can find out what's going on. And I'm not even ashamed to post this. Catholics are stereotyped as hating the Bible anyway and everyone's still mad at us because some faggot mods who now poohed off to discord went tyrannical.

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† 09/01/20 (Tue) 05:22:06 618429 No.844697

>>844693

Holy molly I am drunk. Yet I open my catechism and find the exact passage: Ecclus 9:10.

''Every woman that is a harlot shall be trodden upon as dung on the way" but neither of my Bibles say this.

This is from The Aquinas Catechism, page 227.

I was noting how I, as a bastard, have no honor because of my parents adultery.

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† 09/01/20 (Tue) 23:07:29 520e30 No.844746

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>>844697

Ecclus. = Ecclesiasticus (AKA Sirach)

http://drbo.org/cgi-bin/d?b=drb&bk=23&ch=9&l=10-#x

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† 09/02/20 (Wed) 07:44:37 d8bca1 No.844779

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Yeah the changes do matter because a few nerds decided, after literally centuries of contrary agreement, that certain books didn't belong in the bible because they felt that they weren't divinely inspired, often because it conflicted with their newfound revolutionary theology.

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† 09/02/20 (Wed) 10:14:00 114e65 No.844788

The only changes it has are translation errors.

That is about it really.

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† 09/02/20 (Wed) 11:33:33 252941 No.844792

>>844653

>Did you know the gospels were written without titles??

wow, next the bible will have been written without numbered verses and chapters

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† 09/04/20 (Fri) 17:47:35 2fd107 No.845042

>>844642

I'm not going to weigh in on this except to share the story of how the Septuagint was translated. We all know if took it's name from the fact that 70 translators worked on it but the amazing fact is that, contrary to what most people assume, all 70 worked on their own copy of the book. Meaning, they didn't all contribute to translating a single copy. Each of the 70 was given all the manuscripts and each worked on their own complete version. This was done in order to ensure that there could be no collusion or mistakes that found their way into the final versons. After each was completed, which was almost a life's work done by monks, all were compared and compiled into what we now have. The truly amazing part of this is that, even though the language of each of the 70 translations differed between them, the meaning was preserved and correctly passed on. This is truly how the Spirit works, when working through honest faithful people. this is how God works. In other words, the only way is could have subsequently been corrupted is if whoever translated it, did so with the intended purpose of corrupting it. It is also amazing that 70 diffrent monks using their own particular choice of words, managed to transfer the meaning so faithfully.

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† 09/04/20 (Fri) 18:17:58 f1aeb3 No.845044

>>845042

Yeah, and Kim Jon Un never poops.

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† 09/04/20 (Fri) 18:41:53 2fd107 No.845047

>>845044

Yeah i know right? It sounds almost as preposterous as the story of God and the Bible.

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† 09/04/20 (Fri) 20:28:44 4a3f3a No.845052

>>845042

Mythical

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† 09/04/20 (Fri) 20:47:44 95a65e No.845055

>>845042

This was the story of the commission for the Torah only. It's still apocryphal, but a little bit more believable, I guess. The rest of the LXX was done over time. Some parts were so poorly done that the Church later relied on Aquila or Theodotian. The whole book of Daniel in currently printed Septuagint editions is Theodotian's translation, for example.

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† 09/05/20 (Sat) 00:42:18 2fd107 No.845072

>>845052

Could be.

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† 09/05/20 (Sat) 21:22:43 b67566 No.845177

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>>844642

This is a good example of how "modern scholars" are causing error when they claim that the Bible changed over time. They say this only because they are all among those who all happen to use the altered Roman catholic, and/or modern versions among themselves.

If you look at the Authorized version however, and leave all of the corrupted version sout, you don't see these changes. All you see are the original inspired text and a translation of it into accurate English. There are also entire wings of libraries that could be filled with translations into other languages from these same, "received" original-language Bible texts. The confusion only arises as soon as you start listening to modern scholars, post-Tischendorf who say that there have been changes. That's part of their agenda and they don't believe the following Scripture at all, and they can't satisfactorily explain it either:

Psalm 119:160

Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever.

Luke 16:17

And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.

Matthew 24:35

Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

So yes, talk about your modern post-1860s scholars and their theories, talk about all their modern translations and try to make it out like there have been changes, but the inspired originals have been here all along according to Scripture itself.

Isaiah 59:21

As for me, this is my covenant with them, saith the LORD; My spirit that is upon thee, and my words which I have put in thy mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed, nor out of the mouth of thy seed's seed, saith the LORD, from henceforth and for ever.

Psalm 12:6-7

The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.

Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.

1 Peter 1:23-25

Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away:

But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.

Isaiah 40:8

The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.

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