56c7aa No.844289
When the commies, jews, and degenerates try to destroy our country and corrupt our youth, are we expected to be docile and take it? When the inevitable war in the US breaks out, can we go on the offensive? Can we kill those who attempt to murder our families and destroy our homes in the name of Satan? Specific verses that clarify this would be very helpful.
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741cbc No.844291
>>844289
Follow Jesus. You know what he said. He said to love your enemies. You know what did. He died for his enemies. Are you better than him? I know it's difficult, but pray and think about it. We hold the very execution instrument of Christ as our symbol. No other religion does such a thing. Remember that.
If you want to listen to someone else, just remember: There's a payment for violent acts. You won't leave until you pay it all back. Not even a great prophet like Elijah got an exemption for beheading all of the prophets of Baal. Even he had to pay it back.
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10af39 No.844327
>>844289
>>844291
"Christian" pacifism is retarded nonsense, loving your enemies is not incompatible with fighting them (up to and including killing them if they force your hand). Christ died not for his enemies but for the lost sheep of Israel, his enemies are destined for the pit of fire prepared for the devil and his angels. Letting your kin suffer because you won't resist is a grave sin. "He who cares not for his own house is worse than a non-believer," pacifists don't even rise to the moral level of ignorant pagans.
That being said, being a fool who courts personal destruction to own the libs is also a violation of prudence and care for your family (you can't provide or protect your family from a cell). That poor foolish kid who killed a pedophile and woman beater in self defense because he wanted to counter-protest to 'do something' about the freaks destroying the city has a good chance of spending the rest of his life in a cage because he didn't think ahead like he should have. He thought he would have the protection of law, and he was wrong. He didn't know that anyone who resists the foot soldiers of the ruling class will be punished severely, and he should have. And worst of all, he was (apparently) from out of town! Throwing your young life to the wolves in order to protect some far-off stranger's business is not prudent, and won't achieve anything in the long run. If you must protect your own home/family/community, that's another matter entirely.
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363c9d No.844338
>>844291
I dunno man. I think any Christian with the sanctification to have the courage would be under obligation to destroy that flag. You can destroy the works of the devil without hurting people physically. Think of our Lord in the temple.
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7add19 No.844342
From 100 BC up until about 70 years ago, they would have been hung for that. Even the old Roman Republic found that repugnant. Remember, the Emperor Caligula was thrown to his death by the Praetorian Guard who had enough of his degeneracy.
We tend to value things today through the satanic values of the modern era, and confuse God's forgiveness as being Civil law. That is, God may forgive them, but that doesn't make them immune from the punishment of crimes in this life.
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363c9d No.844346
>>844342
God gave us new rules through the New Covenant. We are to love those who spitefully persecute us and offer everything else when a thief comes and steals from us. This will heal coals on their conscience and help bring them to Christ. Therefore forgiveness is the law we live under. That said, you can brake down the works of the devil without hurting or killing people. It would be perfect Christian conduct to go and destroy that pedophilic baphomet statue the satanic circ put up for instance, even with explosives.
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23e921 No.844365
>>844289
>"Let the kikes win."
Marx 69:420
Dang, looks like op's right.
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b05afe No.844666
>>844291
I agree with what you said in your first paragraph.
My question is how did Elijah have to pay it back?
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bc6400 No.844668
>>844289
i always laugh when people say you CANT fight back. people who aren't even christian saying s— like "thats not very christ love of you"
they conveniently forget the crusades happened. aggression is aggression. id argue the presence of muslims on christian lands is an act of holy war.
>i did not come to bring peace but a sword Matthew 10:34
>He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. Luke 22:36
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3295e7 No.844672
>>844668
>They forget the Romanist "Church" killed countless people, thus revealing it to be a den of vipers by its bad fruit
Whoops
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7add19 No.844673
>>844346
Sorry, the Catholic Church and the teachings of the Apostles say you have a right to self defense and can fight in just wars.
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3295e7 No.844675
>>844673
Oh well if the Catholic Church said it, then I guess its COMPLETELY FALSE.
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7f6738 No.844683
>>844289
But you are just an Internet crusader with excessive drama.
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f44a61 No.844741
>>844675
You realize C.S. Lewis converted to Catholicism later in life, right?
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eef210 No.844751
>>844741
No he didn't. You're thinking of cardinal newman or tolkein or something
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34a6b5 No.845040
>>844672
Yeah i don't think your enemies=God's enemies. God's enemies deserve nothing but the sword+bowels treatment. Some wars are just and portecting Christendom would count as just. Some people try to divorce the OT God from the NT God but this is the same Father and he seems to have no patience for pagans and blasphemers.
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f88970 No.845130
Matthew 5:17-20 King James Version (KJV)
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven .
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7db86e No.845168
>>844327
>Out of town
He lived 20 minutes from the town and WORKED THERE as a bodyguard! That was practically his town they were vandalizing and lighting on fire
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7b2a2d No.845306
"When the commies, jews, and degenerates try to destroy our country and corrupt our youth, are we expected to be docile and take it?"
No
>Luke 22:36 Then He said to them, "But now, he who has a money bag, let him take it, and likewise a knapsack; and he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one.
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7b2a2d No.845309
>>844291
>He said to love your enemies.
He didn't tell us to die for them. Jesus already did that. Loving your enemies is just treating them honorably. It's not submission to them.
> You know what did. He died for his enemies. Are you better than him?
No. That's why I'm not delusional enough to believe that I have the same role as Jesus.
>We hold the very execution instrument of Christ as our symbol.
irrelevant. The Christian church hasn't always used a cross as a symbol.
>There's a payment for violent acts.
Yeah, and the payment God gave to David for the murder of goliath was an entire kingdom. You never know what payment God will provide you when you defend his people.
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7b2a2d No.845312
>>844346
>This will heal coals on their conscience and help bring them to Christ.
No it won't. Our enemies are sociopaths, they don't possess a conscience. They aren't capable of remorse or compassion. They don't have a human psychology.
There are vessels of wrath prepared for destruction and those vessels can never come to Christ.
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67998a No.845319
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7757dd No.846560
1. Romans 12:21
2. Who are you to judge
3. Matthews 5:46
But to counter me, theres Luke 22:36…..
I am not knowledgeable enough.
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27dac4 No.846571
>>844289
I'm sure God changed his mind after the canaanites and never wants justice delivered in any form again.
t. probably over 60% of Catholic priests
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e7ee83 No.846582
>>844289
Loving our enemies means wishing/doing the best for them, the best for their souls, so we shouldnt let them destroy their souls and of those who get touched by their nefarious propaganda.
"If I say to the wicked, O wicked one, you shall surely die, and you do not speak to warn the wicked to turn from his way, that wicked person shall die in his iniquity, but his blood I will require at your hand. But if you warn the wicked to turn from his way, and he does not turn from his way, that person shall die in his iniquity, but you will have delivered your soul."
And if it gets the last resort of war, its ok in the sense that God used the armies of Israel as punishment for the Canaanites, these current people are ahead of the Canaanites in wickedness. In the case of Canaanites, Sodom and Gomorrah, death was the merciful solution as they would never repent and thus death kept them from further injuring their souls and of whoever was born in that culture.
If Christians rolled over and died when Islam tried to conquer Europe over and over again then there would be no Christianity right now and no soul in humanity would have hope. Wishing the best for muslims is not letting them do whatever they want, but to pray for them and if they try something stupid push them back.
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