acb62b No.843920[Last 50 Posts]
More and more recently, it has been popular on /pol/ and other boards to claim that the Bible says "racemixing" is a sin. I've even been told by one that Jesus hates racial impurity and will destroy racemixers at the Apocalypse. Whenever one tries to ask them where such is found in the New Testament, they start calling people jews and continue to cite Old Testament Israelite laws and non-canon books such as Tobit.
Myself, I am a white man married to a Chinese woman. It is my understanding that the Old Testament was such for the same reason the New Testament warns to not be unequally yoked. That is to say, marrying outside your race before the coming of Christ meant that you were marrying into another religion because all races had their own racial paganism. So it was not unlawful because of racial difference, but idolatry to pagan gods and rituals that would be passed by one parent to offspring. Their faith would not be to God.
My wife and I are both Christian. I chose my wife because of her obedience to God, and because I found other women lacking. Of course, I also find her far more attractive than other women in personality and looks.
Is it unwise to marry outside of your race? Perhaps, especially so for some races, but I can find no substance of it being a sin.
____________________________
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
140eb1 No.843927
Problems with marriage from a vastly different culture and race:
1) They converted to Christianity just to get married, e.g. my Japanese sister in law was caught praying to the Shinto Moon goddess by my mom. Methodist don't do that.
2) Kids don't fit in either culture; e.g. my nieces and nephews are not regarded by the Japanese as Japanese, or by the whites as whites.
3) Values from the two different cultures are confused.
This creates additional problems. Consider that a marriage between folks of similar customs, beliefs and yes, racial identity have enough problems.
The 1st purpose of marriage is not for pleasure, but to raise children. A spouse should be chosen to make raising children as advantageous as possible.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
acb62b No.843929
>>843927
But you concur it is not a sin. As I said
>I chose my wife because of her obedience to God, and because I found other women lacking. Of course, I also find her far more attractive than other women in personality and looks.
I would also not advise marrying someone who converts at marriage. That actually happens often in the country my wife is from.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
7ddcfd No.843934
Most unique physically advantageous traits are recessive. If I marry woman with dark hair and a low IQ odds are my kid won't inherit my blond hair and high IQ. This might not be a problem for me directly but I would feel pretty screwed over if I were the kid. It's certainly not charitable.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
140eb1 No.843938
>>843929
Marrying outside your race is not a sin in and of itself. It can lead to sins, so I could be wrong it may be a venial sin… but protestants don't believe in Venial sins.
Marrying outside the religion is a sin.
Marrying thinking that if it doesn't work out, you can just divorce is a sin.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
730d8b No.843948
>>843920
Teaching against race mixing this strictly is for people who don't even read the scriptures. They end up slandering Christ himself and will go to hell. He himself had Gentile ancestry.
"Salmon the father of Boaz, whose mother was Rahab, Boaz the father of Obed, whose mother was Ruth" - Matthew 1:5
Rahab was the woman from Jericho who helped the Israelites and Ruth was a woman of Moab (modern Jordan) who fell in love with Boaz and eventually became the grandparents to King David).
These people don't even understand what Jews are. They don't read the Torah and realize that anyone can become a Jew by means of conversion. Which is what women like Ruth did. To this day, a convert is "fully Jew" in rabbinic law. Only modernists put "genetic science" and Darwinism as the ultimate definition of someone's affiliation.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
98a6df No.843951
>>843927
As I recall, the first purpose of Christian marriage is to not burn in lust and passion and go to hell for fornication and adultery.
==1 Corinthians 7:1-9=
>1 Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.
>2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.
>3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.
>4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.
>5 Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.
>6 But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment.
>7 For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that.
>8 I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, it is good for them if they abide even as I.
>9 But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
ec7d08 No.843958
>>843927
>>843951
Marriage is not to propagate nature, but to save the person. Being comitted to a wife and raising a child is a great way to be saved.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
140eb1 No.843974
>>843951
Saint Aquinas teaches us that even lust in marriage for your own wife is a sin.
Sorry you "cannot contain".
>>843958
Yeah, I know we don't agree on that.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
495cae No.843987
>>843948
And King David killed a man to get his wife. Just because a sin eventually led to the birth of Jesus centuries later that doesn't mean the sin is okay. Or do you think it's okay to kill people who live in the same neighborhood as you to steal their wives because it led to the birth of Jesus' ancestor?
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
98a6df No.844011
>>843974
>cannot contain
Aquinas does not have a book in the Bible, no matter how much he is respected. The other Catholic commentary on sex and marriage is the same and quite horrendous, as you are.
https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2016/12/21/st-augustine-on-sex-and-marriage/
>Augustine allows for two ways a person can have sex in marriage without sinning. The first is if the person is having sex not for pleasure, but to create a child
>The other time Augustine explains one can have sex in marriage without sinning is if they are only having sex out of duty
https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2016/12/20/st-jerome-on-marriage/
>I’ll start with Jerome’s striking interpretation of 1 Cor 7:1, explaining that Paul is saying sex in marriage is evil, albeit a lesser evil (all emphasis mine).
>“It is good,” he says, “for a man not to touch a woman.” If it is good not to touch a woman, it is bad to touch one: for there is no opposite to goodness but badness. But if it be bad and the evil is pardoned, the reason for the concession is to prevent worse evil. But surely a thing which is only allowed because there may be something worse has only a slight degree of goodness.
>Jerome continues to 1 Cor 7:2, explaining that Paul was referring to Christians who were married before becoming Christians, and encouraging married Christians to not have sex unless they felt that they could not otherwise contain themselves
>Next he explains that 1 Cor 7:3-5 is saying that while it would be better for a married Christian to abstain from sex, they are duty bound to do so if their spouse wishes, even though married sex is bad because it is incontinence that hinders prayer
>To Jerome, it seems that any piece of Scripture can be read as a condemnation of marriage
Meanwhile, the Bible says sex with your spouse is a good thing.
https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2016/12/21/like-a-rutting-buck/
>Contrary to the argument that sexual passion is sinful if it isn’t carefully constrained, husbands are exhorted to be intoxicated with passion for their wives.
I shall trust the Bible at its clear words and not lean unto a few men's understanding.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
f045af No.844093
>>843920
"I do this so it must not be a sin."
You probably skip over all the parts condemning miscegenation and describing its results in the Bible.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
849880 No.844113
>>844093
You forgot to list them.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
c81a21 No.844116
Mestizos and Mullatoes can be as good Christians as anyone else. And the first Christians never disallowed a Greek to marry a Syrian.
But regardless, if we desire we can forbid or discourage miscegenation in a secular enviroment if it is really necessary.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
40cb70 No.844138
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
6837b7 No.844147
>>843974
St. Aquinas was a Turkey
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
140eb1 No.844163
>>844147
There's enough to question Saint Aquinas' logic; he often resorts to the use of the non sequitur IMHO, because I don't see his logic sometimes and sometimes I see a fallacy e.g. the sin of Onan means death for masturbation when the Law of Moses clearly says it make you unclean until nightfall and the real sin of Onan was denying his Sister in Law an heir.
But Saint Aquinas was an Italian, not a Turk.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
5cf0ce No.844171
>>844138
>old testament
>>843920
>Whenever one tries to ask them where such is found in the New Testament, they start calling people jews and continue to cite Old Testament Israelite laws and non-canon books such as Tobit
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
40cb70 No.844244
>>844171
I knew I should have copied and pasted. Do yourself a favour and read it because it doesn't say what you assume. In any case marcionism is heresy. There is only one bible and excluding the old from the discussion is unacceptable to Christians.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
849880 No.844248
>>844244
I assume you don't eat unclean meats and promote circumcision?
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
626e55 No.844251
>>844244
Except he's right.
This isn't marcionism, since he isn't saying OT God isn't NT God.
Your accusation is dumb and outside the subject.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
f78d17 No.844260
>>843920
>Is it unwise
Potentially, as mixed children don't seem to bond to their parents quite as well. The greater rates of drug use and criminality among mixed race children may be because they do not bond to and listen to their parents as much as children whose parents are their own ethnicity. I don't know that for a fact, but that's my best guess to explain observed behavior. But, I think good parenting can overcome that easily. If you're talking to your kids at dinner and praying with them, they aren't going to start ignoring you because of your race. In any case, calling it a sin is pretty extreme language–passing God's judgment on it like that.
>>843934
>advantageous traits are recessive
Then inbreeding would produce the most fit offspring. Inbreeding is what best allows recessive traits from both parents to pair and emerge in offspring, yet those seem to be negative mutations far more often than not. Yeah you don't want your partner to be too genetically distanced, but I don't believe what you're describing is true.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
996212 No.844262
>>844260
I said most unique advantageous traits are recessive not all recessive traits are advantageous.
Most A are B not all B are A
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
98a6df No.844425
Neither racemixing nor racism are a sin. Some races are better than others.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
ddede5 No.844455
Race mixing is not a sin, but it's a bad idea. Racially mixed children tend to have tougher childhoods because they don't fit in anywhere. You don't want your children to endure that, do you?
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
01ce58 No.844458
>>844138
Aaron and Miriam criticised Moses for having an Ethiopian wife does not mean God condemned it. It was the opposite, actually, since God is angered by them questioning Moses.
Also, God told Abraham to have a child with Hagar, and egyptian woman. How can one say that racemixing is a sin if God himself told a patriarch to have a son with a woman of another ethnic group?
I can understand those who say it is not disable, but it is not sinful at all.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
047305 No.844479
>>844455
Ask any white kid in an inner city how fun their upbringing was. As long as they aren't part tigger, they will be fine.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
140eb1 No.844480
>>844425
A good argument that race-mixing, or culture mixing, is unwise.
Which is why Catholic marriages have to be between two Catholics. Same values, getting married for life, etc.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
0a235f No.844490
I don't understand these strange people who acknowledge miscegenation is unwise and causes harm but refuse to call it a sin. You might as well say sticking a fork in an outlet isn't a sin. That sentence is laughable because we all know it obviously is a sin due to the harm it causes.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
140eb1 No.844493
>>844490
>refuse to call it a sin.
No Pope nor council says it is a sin. Quite the opposite, they quote Saint Paul
>You might as well say sticking a fork in an outlet isn't a sin.
Wantonly risking your own life for no good is a sin.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
0a235f No.844495
>>844493
>Wantonly risking your own life for no good is a sin.
That's the point. Wantonly harming your own child for no good is also a sin.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
181928 No.844500
>is race mixing a sin?
Everyone ITT missed the point imo. God's chosen people were the Jews. Then the jews as a race ended the Alliance God made with them by killing Jesus Christ. Then, whether you like it or not, the Alliance became between God and white people. Italy, France, Spain, Germany were the countries where the Church thrived. And it's been this way for most of its history, thus making the West a bastion for the true religion. However, today we reached a turning point: the West is falling, and so is the Church. This makes sense, because the West can't exist without the Church, and the Church we know can't exist without its people. The West might fall, and not the Church, but it would surely and without a doubt do more harm than good to the Church if that were the case. This is why the West and the Church must be preserved both. Unless God has other plans and is ending his Alliance with us, it is our duty to preserve these foundations. Now, by making mixed-race babies, you are not fulfilling your duty as a white to preserve the West and its race, and the bastion it is for the Church. When the West will fall, the Church will fall with it, and you will regret not having made the best effort to avoid it.
>inb4 the Church doesn't matter I can have my own custom religion
yeah whatever
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
98a6df No.844505
>>844495
See >>844425
Some races are better than others. Some racemixing is extremely unwise. Some racemixing is acceptable. To make a blanket statement is to not recognize distinct races. That is why racism is not a sin. Discrimination is not a sin.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
626e55 No.844510
>>844500
Or you could do the normal thing that every prophet of the OT did, and call the West to repent, so they get their things back.
The first place where Christianity thrived was the Eastern Med, while the West was a s—hole filled with pagans and heretics.
By the grace of God, those same slavic, germanic, thracian and central asians barbarians were the ones that ended up defending Christendom, centuries later.
Now the tide seems to be turning eastward, and Russia, East Asia and Africa are ending up the ones where the torch will be passed(africans are already the voice telling weste4n christianity to get it's crap together. See Cardinal Sarah, John Sentamu, Anglican Realignment, etc.)
Calling people to repent is our ONLY priority, not edgy fringe political movements.
If the West will repent, they will be restored, no matter how broken they will end up until then(OT proves a people can be brought back to glory, even with them being scattered to the four winds, and their deliverance coming via foreign rulers, while they didn't have to lift a finger), and that the most haughty, civilized empires on the planet got nuked from existence pretty fast, once they angered the Almighty enough.
So go pray to God for forgiveness, and invite people to fix their life and join in that prayer with you, and leave other nonsense aside.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
140eb1 No.844516
>>844495
But you're not harming your child at all. Your child is at risk because of wickedness in this world. You can also argue, I suppose, that since catholics are hated, you are "harming" your child by raising them Catholic; you should raise them to be in this world and be popular.
Catholics are in this world, but we are not of it. This world is wicked.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
6bee96 No.844533
>>844500
Good post. I've been yelling at reddit to understand the connection between Church and race but they just can't process it.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
140eb1 No.844537
I don't think there are any Catholics here.
A true Pope said it ex cathedra, that's the end of the discussion.
Mit Brennender Sorge
Given by His Holiness Pope Pius XI
March 14, 1937
8. Whoever exalts race, or the people, or the State, or a particular form of State, or the depositories of power, or any other fundamental value of the human community - however necessary and honorable be their function in worldly things - whoever raises these notions above their standard value and divinizes them to an idolatrous level, distorts and perverts an order of the world planned and created by God; he is far from the true faith in God and from the concept of life which that faith upholds.
10. This God, this Sovereign Master, has issued commandments whose value is independent of time and space, country and race. As God's sun shines on every human face so His law knows neither privilege nor exception. Rulers and subjects, crowned and uncrowned, rich and poor are equally subject to His word. From the fullness of the Creators' right there naturally arises the fullness of His right to be obeyed by individuals and communities, whoever they are. This obedience permeates all branches of activity in which moral values claim harmony with the law of God, and pervades all integration of the ever-changing laws of man into the immutable laws of God.
11. None but superficial minds could stumble into concepts of a national God, of a national religion; or attempt to lock within the frontiers of a single people, within the narrow limits of a single race, God, the Creator of the universe, King and Legislator of all nations before whose immensity they are "as a drop of a bucket" (Isaiah xI, 15).
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
140eb1 No.844538
A true Pope said it ex Cathedra, that's the end of the discussion.
Disagree and you're not Catholic.
Summi Pontificatus
Given by Pope Pius XII
October 20, 1939
43. And the nations, despite a difference of development due to diverse conditions of life and of culture, are not destined to break the unity of the human race, but rather to enrich and embellish it by the sharing of their own peculiar gifts and by that reciprocal interchange of goods which can be possible and efficacious only when a mutual love and a lively sense of charity unite all the sons of the same Father and all those redeemed by the same Divine Blood.
44. The Church of Christ, the faithful depository of the teaching of Divine Wisdom, cannot and does not think of deprecating or disdaining the particular characteristics which each people, with jealous and intelligible pride, cherishes and retains as a precious heritage. Her aim is a supernatural union in all-embracing love, deeply felt and practiced, and not the unity which is exclusively external and superficial and by that very fact weak.
45. The Church hails with joy and follows with her maternal blessing every method of guidance and care which aims at a wise and orderly evolution of particular forces and tendencies having their origin in the individual character of each race, provided that they are not opposed to the duties incumbent on men from their unity of origin and common destiny.
72. A disposition, in fact, of the divinely sanctioned natural order divides the human race into social groups, nations or States, which are mutually independent in organization and in the direction of their internal life. But for all that, the human race is bound together by reciprocal ties, moral and juridical, into a great commonwealth directed to the good of all nations and ruled by special laws which protect its unity and promote its prosperity.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
d900f0 No.844542
>>844537
>>844538
You would be incorrect. Case in point: me. I use to be a /pol/ fool. But repented after finding the faith. When I first decided to attend a Catholic Mass, I had the WORST Headache I had in YEARS. It felt as though…it was like as if I was gold being purified, and what I was being purified of was the devil. Or to put it another way, it was like a nuclear blast, except instead of nuclear fire it was Almighty God's presence..and instead of wood or people, it was the devil who was being burned. Even as I pray, it is like I experience a 'circular sensation' like in a message, but with the soul
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
d900f0 No.844543
>>844516
This very much. It is hard to believe how many here fail to grasp this basic truth. But it is hard to ask much from mental midgets, not saying they are dumb, but they are willfully blind to the truth and want to believe their owns self perceived "truths" they are acting like hypocrites, like the scribes and Pharisees. It sickens me honestly, that people will pervert the word of God for their own agenda.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
0a235f No.844549
>>844537
>>844538
None of that says open your borders and miscegenate.
>inb4 pilpul mental gymnastics
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
0a235f No.844550
>>844516
>But you're not harming your child at all.
Of course you are. I suppose you think it's okay to lower their IQ through miscegenation but not through oxygen deprivation?
>I suppose, that since catholics are hated, you are "harming" your child by raising them Catholic; you should raise them to be in this world and be popular.
Raising your child Catholic isn't harming your child. Telling your child to go into a neighborhood that hates Catholics and tell everyone he's a Catholic is harming your child.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
626e55 No.844607
>>844549
It's funny how the only way /pol/tards try to win debates in this field is by desperately trying to paint their opponents as some hardcore woke ultra-far-left liberals, and declaring victory over that strawman.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
181928 No.844610
>>844510
Congratulations on repeating what I just said. So we both agree on what's going on. What you don't understand is that repent and defense of the Church and its people are not mutually exclusive. But you seem to be completely clueless about that defense and its necessity. Perhaps that's because you're an ortho. When I have a mudslime's gun pointed on my head, you'll probably tell me that I should repent, that it's my ONLY priority. I hope you realize how ridiculous you sound.
Also you still don't admit that it would be bad for the Church to replace its white majority for an asian or african one, when it should be pretty obvious.
>>844538
>>844537
Nice wall of text, except that doesn't contradict anything we said. It doesn't forbid to talk about race and make politics based on it. It is obvious that preservation of our race is less important than the salvation of our souls, but it doesn't mean it has no importance whatsoever.
>>844607
Except anons itt are literally defending miscegenation. Can you read?
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
626e55 No.844612
>>844610
>Except anons itt are literally defending miscegenation. Can you read?
That's not what i said.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
626e55 No.844613
>>844610
Defence of the people has been historically pretty straightforward, and it had jack s— to do with racial conciousness memes.
What you are doing is apriori justification for political shilling.
>Also you still don't admit that it would be bad for the Church to replace its white majority for an asian or african one, when it should be pretty obvious.
Umm…chief, your church isn't white majority already, globally.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
5dc969 No.844636
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
626e55 No.844641
>>844636
>Anon gives a pretty simple counterargument(besides the ones shown in other places in this thread, from Christ's genealogy, to instructions on marrying female POWs);
>braindead anon completely ignores the argument, and parrots his one copy-pasted verse from Tobit for the billionth time;
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
181928 No.844649
>>844613
>Umm…chief, your church isn't white majority already, globally.
>And that's a good thing
Why don't you admit that as an ortho you just want to see the Church burn? This would make the debate way easier for both of us.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
7a9608 No.844655
>>844649
Ah the classic "you disagree because you hate the Roman church" defense. It wouldn't be /christian/ without it.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
626e55 No.844663
>>844649
>Umm…chief, your church isn't white majority already, globally.
>And that's a good thing
Aaa…wha…huh?
It means the Catholic Church, for various good and bad reasons, has evangelized a lot outside of Europe and the Anglosphere.
I can't even begin to comprehend how much of a race worshipper do you have to be to consider the Great Commission sinful.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
626e55 No.844665
>>844663
*forgot my flag.
Seriously, when an EO has to explain to a catholic that not turning the Church into an ethnic club is normal, you know you've reached Twilight Zone levels of weird.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
409e0a No.844676
>>844610
>defending miscegenation
I defend selectivity.
/pol/ blowhards simp hard for white women, no matter how terrible they are for a wife. I've even seen them say they would marry a meth-abusing coalburner in the name of having a "white" son rather than have a healthy marriage with an Asian woman. Cringeworthy to the extreme.
And you and your fellows have yet to show "racemixing" to be a sin.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
0a235f No.844682
>>844663
>I can't even begin to comprehend how much of a race worshipper do you have to be to consider the Great Commission sinful.
Not him but seriously? The Church never willy nilly converted everything that walks on two legs in sight. Many people were just deemed heretics and killed, not converted in a naive attempt to brainwash them into Church doctrine.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
626e55 No.844699
>>844682
>Many people were just deemed heretics and killed, not converted in a naive attempt to brainwash them into Church doctrine.
Heretic means those people are already christian, in already catholic land…
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
181928 No.844706
>>844663
>>844665
I never said it was bad to convert people of all races. What is bad is the re-localization of the Church barycenter. When Europe has completed its apostasy and Beijing will be the new Rome, will that be a good thing too? I guess so, according to what you're saying.
>>844676
It's funny how you keep screeching about /pol/, yet I never browse this board, and you post memes you found there. Your cuck fantasies come straight from there. Tell me anon, how do you not sin when you see all these nsfw threads there? Shouldn't you stop browsing nsfw boards?
>>844699
>Heretic means those people are already christian, in already catholic land…
No they are not.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
0508ad No.844708
>>844706
>No they are not.
I'm with you anon, but I'm pretty sure heresy involves misunderstanding Christian doctrine, either willingly or unknowingly. Nestorianism is heresy, whereas whatever passes for belief in some cannibal tribe somewhere would just be paganism. It's a worthwhile distinction.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
626e55 No.844711
>>844706
>I never said it was bad to convert people of all races. What is bad is the re-localization of the Church barycenter. When Europe has completed its apostasy and Beijing will be the new Rome, will that be a good thing too? I guess so, according to what you're saying.
>I never said it was bad to convert people of all races. What is bad is the re-localization of the Church barycenter. When the Eastern Med has completed its apostasy and the Rhine/Moscow will be the new Cappadocia, will that be a good thing too? I guess so, according to what you're saying.
It's not about good vs bad.
To continue on my metaphor, the fall of the Eastern Med is the greatest tragedy in the history of Christendom, in my opinion.
Speaking of, on a related note, from what i read, 1204 broke Christendom almost permanently, a Christendom that was planning a grand reunion between the latins, the greeks, and the armenians, and the mongol invasion could have results in an eastern Reconquista against the Anatolian beyliks, similar to the one against the iberian taifas.
So yes, i am fully aware that the falling away of an important center of ours makes things difficult for everyone.
What i do disagree with is is the arrogance to believe that Christianity hinges on your preeminence, and that no one else can "get it".
Don't believe that relying on your past historical power means God owes you anything, or that they are somehow inseparable from spreading the Gospel.
If the West wants it's historically important seat in Christianity back, they need to get back into their churches.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
7744a0 No.844713
Why do we keep having these stupid /pol/ bait threads?
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
140eb1 No.844722
>>844713
Because dump people like me take the bait.
Because I'm a proud little child who like to show off the Church teaching that he has learned today. Pretty sad to be a 65 year old child.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
ec6ca4 No.844737
>>844706
>cuck fantasies
Looks like we got a coper
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
3a86cf No.844748
>>844699
>Heretic means those people are already christian, in already catholic land…
It doesn't.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
44cb0a No.844778
Begone /imperium/.
Jokes aside it's not a sin but it's not without its consequences; a good part of the reason idpol became a thing in this generation was because of the many racially mixed souls who lacked direction and a clear 'home' identity wise, so it needed to be manufactured in order to accommodate.
granted I'm dating a mixed girl who wants white babies with me so I dunno lol
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
960af1 No.844823
>>844778
Idpol happened because of tiggers and faggots. Americans mixing with Injun squaws is a time honored tradition. I am a living example of it, 5 generations later. You can't tell me being mixed back then was better than now.
A white man choosing an Asian wife is among the same trend, and Asian women have even higher IQs.
As someone else said, selectivity is key. Asians and whites are similar enough. tiggers are not similar to any other race. That's why the powers that be push tiggers on every country.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
181928 No.844830
>>844711
>What i do disagree with is is the arrogance to believe that Christianity hinges on your preeminence, and that no one else can "get it".
>Don't believe that relying on your past historical power means God owes you anything, or that they are somehow inseparable from spreading the Gospel.
>If the West wants it's historically important seat in Christianity back, they need to get back into their churches.
But I agree with absolutely all of this! Where exactly did I imply chinks and tiggers couldn't convert? Where did I imply God owes me anything? If anything, we owe God to try and preserve the Alliance He made with us.
So let's phrase it like this: the priorities to avoid the fall of the West are, in that order:
1. Come back to the true faith
2. Anything that has to do with preserving our culture/race
Are you happy now? I don't feel like we disagree on anything really.
Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.