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518853  No.843807

We've all heard this before but is it true?

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518853  No.843808

For anyone wondering where the image comes from

https://invidio.us/tP-HIjSIurs

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1f853d  No.843828

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>>843807

Yes. All you have to do is read what Jesus said.

http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-oddities-of-the-jewish-religion/

https://archive.is/FL7qV

>On the most basic level, the religion of most traditional Jews is actually not at all monotheistic, but instead contains a wide variety of different male and female gods, having quite complex relations to each other, with these entities and their properties varying enormously among the numerous different Jewish sub-sects, depending upon which portions of the Talmud and the Kabala they place uppermost.

>For example, traditionally religious Jews pay little attention to most of the Old Testament, and even very learned rabbis or students who have devoted many years to intensive study may remain largely ignorant of its contents. Instead, the center of their religious world view is the Talmud, an enormously large, complex, and somewhat contradictory mass of secondary writings and commentary built up over many centuries, which is why their religious doctrine is sometimes called “Talmudic Judaism.” Among large portions of the faithful, the Talmud is supplemented by the Kabala, another large collection of accumulated writings, mostly focused on mysticism and all sorts of magic. Since these commentaries and interpretations represent the core of the religion, much of what everyone takes for granted in the Bible is considered in a very different manner.

>Furthermore, religious Jews apparently pray to Satan almost as readily as they pray to God, and depending upon the various rabbinical schools, the particular rituals and sacrifices they practice may be aimed at enlisting the support of the one or the other. Once again, so long as the rituals are properly followed, the Satan-worshippers and the God-worshippers get along perfectly well and consider each other equally pious Jews, merely of a slightly different tradition.

>Over the years prominent Israeli rabbis have sometimes publicly debated whether Jewish power has now become sufficiently great that all the Christian churches of Jerusalem, Bethleham, and other nearby areas can finally be destroyed, and the entire Holy Land completely cleansed of all traces of its Christian contamination. Some have taken this position, but most have urged prudence, arguing that Jews needed to gain some additional strength before they should take such a risky step.

>And while religious Judaism has a decidedly negative view towards all non-Jews, Christianity in particular is regarded as a total abomination, which must be wiped from the face of the earth.

>Whereas pious Muslims consider Jesus as the holy prophet of God and Muhammed’s immediate predecessor, according to the Jewish Talmud, Jesus is perhaps the vilest being who ever lived, condemned to spend eternity in the bottommost pit of Hell, immersed in a boiling vat of excrement. Religious Jews regard the Muslim Quran as just another book, though a totally mistaken one, but the Christian Bible represents purest evil, and if circumstances permit, burning Bibles is a very praiseworthy act. Pious Jews are also enjoined to always spit three times at any cross or church they encounter, and direct a curse at all Christian cemeteries. Indeed, many deeply religious Jews utter a prayer each and every day for the immediate extermination of all Christians.

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1f853d  No.843831

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>It appears that a considerable number of Ashkenazi Jews traditionally regarded Christian blood as having powerful magical properties and considered it a very valuable component of certain important ritual observances at particular religious holidays. Obviously, obtaining such blood in large amounts was fraught with considerable risk, which greatly enhanced its monetary value, and the trade in the vials of this commodity seems to have been widely practiced. Toaff notes that since the detailed descriptions of the Jewish ritualistic murder practices are very similarly described in locations widely separated by geography, language, culture, and time period, they are almost certainly independent observations of the same rite. Furthermore, he notes that when accused Jews were caught and questioned, they often correctly described obscure religious rituals which could not possibly have been known to their Gentile interrogators, who often garbled minor details. Thus, these confessions were very unlikely to have been concocted by the authorities.

>Obviously, the ritual murder of Christian children for their blood was viewed with enormous disfavor by the local Gentile population, and the widespread belief in its existence remained a source of bitter tension between the two communities, flaring up occasionally when a Christian child mysteriously disappeared at a particular time of year, or when a body was found that exhibited suspicious types of wounds or showed a strange loss of blood. Every now and then, a particular case would reach public prominence, often leading to a political test of strength between Jewish and anti-Jewish groups.

>Furthermore, as extensively discussed by Shahak, the world-view of traditional Judaism did involve a very widespread emphasis on magical rituals, spells, charms, and similar things, providing a context in which ritualistic murder and human sacrifice would hardly be totally unexpected.

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24485b  No.843852

>The religion based on denying Christ is satanism

Water is wet

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195e9a  No.843855

We are to pray for their conversion.

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4622ce  No.843878

>>843855

All the false religions are at their core about the denial of Christ and service to demons. It's just more explicit for religious jews than for many ignorant pagans which puts them in greater danger but the reverse is also true for religious pagans and ignorant jews. Indeed my point is that there is little difference in practice between modern judaism and paganism. In both cases there are ignorant people who show up for services from time to time and do not investigate the details and there are sorcerers who intentionally traffic with demons. "For all the gods of the nations are idols*: but the LORD made the heavens."

>>843852

Yes.

The Lord tolerates the continued existence of the jews for the sake of the remnant who will be saved. "For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord GOD: wherefore turn yourselves, and live ye." We pray for their conversion, that the remnant may be numbered with the saints as foretold in the Apocalypse of St. John. So also we must pray for all nations who seem lost to our limited understanding, that a remnant from them may be saved. It is a commonly held interpretation of the prophecy in the Apocalypse that there will be a mass conversion of jews in the final days. (We should still remember that the final antichrist will be a king of jews, so how numerous this mass conversion can be I do not know.)

* The MT could be translated as 'nothingness' or 'false gods'. 'demons' in the LXX. See here: https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=H457&t=KJV

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4622ce  No.843879

>>843878

Stupid, stupid me. I swapped the two posts I quoted around. Sorry.

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b2a444  No.843880

>>843807

Yes it is so that would make being obsessed with jews being preoccupied with satan which is a sign of demonic activity

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f466af  No.843892

>>843880

Obvious Shlomo is obvious.

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bb774a  No.844109

>>843807

>>843852

Yet this doesn’t raise any red flags for American evangelicalism.

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d286a3  No.844117

>>844109

Just Boomers. Kids are aware of it more and more. I work with a 18 year old and 20 year old that know about kikes.

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354b37  No.844119

>>843807

I have more respect for Judaism and Islam than cuckstianity. Judaism knows that Christianity leads to the ego growing, Christians are useful idiots.

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f527df  No.844121

>>844119

>Judaism knows that Christianity leads to the ego growing, Christians are useful idiots.

You have no points to back this up.

Obviously, your ignorance leads you to believe this.

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312059  No.844122

>>843852

Indeed. Judaism is a post-Second Temple religion inspired by the traditions of old but ultimately centered around the teachings of the Talmud, whether one likes to admit it or not. The faithful Hebrews at the time of Christ revered prophets such as Isaiah, rather than disparaging and rejecting them in the years following Christ's ministry on earth.

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354b37  No.844125

>>844121

Nice argument. I base it on among other things what I've read and watched of Michael Laitman, but religion is secretive, they don't tell you what it's really about, but a lot of people just take it at face value, those are useful idiots.

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f527df  No.844129

>>844125

It is the Jews that say that they are the chosen people of God, that they are special, that they have through birthright attained what other people do not have. it's the Jewish religion that increases egoism.

Some religions are secretive, and this is true for Islam and Judaism. But in Christianity, the truth is freely available to anyone.

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bb774a  No.844198

>>844117

>Just Boomers.

I like think so. But America is the sodom to Israel gomorrah.

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eab740  No.844207

>>843807

So what do you think of Pro Israel/Pro Jewish Christians? My dad defends Israel, when the topic comes up,and he has no clue on what he's talking about when it comes to the conflict over there,neither do I. So if Jesus was Jewish than why dislike jews?

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4949fa  No.844283

>>844207

Why ask him why there so many pro Israel And pro Jew Christians yet there never any pro Christian or even pro American jews.

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d22f3f  No.844285

>>844207

I'm somewhat pro-Israel (or at least hope for coexistence with Palestine) precisely because I know Jews are destructive. Rootless, secular Jews that is. Without a home, they have little heritage and little appreciation of others' heritage. They become "cosmopolitan" and push vapid, degenerate values and practices on a global scale. The minute a people get tied to a nation, they start valuing the things put into making it work, the land they have to sweat over, the heritage that maintains social cohesion, the families that carry it through generations, and the importance to guard against harmful outside influences. And when they do that for themselves, they inevitably develop an appreciation for another man doing the same in his own land. They start seeing themselves in the Irishman, the German, the Japanese, etc.. If all Jews became Israelis, I believe it'd be a good thing for everybody. That alone would take them out of the machinery of someone's else's politics, someone else's corporations, and someone's entertainment, and away from someone else's youth. They'd be in their own bubble, worrying about themselves rather than spending all of their time subverting and being busybodies with every other nation.

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eea6d0  No.844296

>>844285

>Rootless, secular Jews that is. Without a home, they have little heritage and little appreciation of others' heritage. They become "cosmopolitan" and push vapid, degenerate values and practices on a global scale. The minute a people get tied to a nation, they start valuing the things put into making it work, the land they have to sweat over, the heritage that maintains social cohesion, the families that carry it through generations, and the importance to guard against harmful outside influences. And when they do that for themselves, they inevitably develop an appreciation for another man doing the same in his own land. They start seeing themselves in the Irishman, the German, the Japanese, etc.. If all Jews became Israelis, I believe it'd be a good thing for everybody. That alone would take them out of the machinery of someone's else's politics, someone else's corporations, and someone's entertainment, and away from someone else's youth.

This.

Jews aren't anything special, tbh, they are just middleman minorities that dialed up the tribalism due to having to fight for surival against a lot of people that don't like them.

It's telling the minorities that get themselves into the most trouble, such as kurds, gypsies and afro-americans(well, american blacks also got sabotaged whenever a semblance of community or civil leaders sprang up, imo) are nationless people.

Unlike people with a homeland, they have to stay separated from the host nation culturally(even if it involves being d—s to them), or else they die.

Immigrants don't have to do that, which is why they either assimilate into the mainstream over a long enough time, or if the discrimination gets too bad, they go to their new homeland(tatars have been moving to Tatarstan or Turkey when stuff like Russia invading Crimea, or commies persecuting them in Romania happened).

Afro-americans did pretty well for themselves when translated back in West Africa, and formed their own tribes(Afro-Liberians, Creoles, Aku people) in their host nations.

In fact they did a little too well, and ending up being a new aristocratic class over the natives, which caused civil war inducing ethnic tensions.

It's also a good way to get rid of dumb far-left or far-right ideologies

The only remaining armed rebellions are either commies, islamists or ethnic separatists, and in many cases the first 2 are tied into national struggles(Kurds and their communist terrorism, Palestinians and their islamist and far-left parties, and a lot of such things in Asia too).

Israel was big into socialism at start, which is why you still have a lot of kibbutz, and soccer teams called Hapoel("Labour"), but having to build their nation(and being allied to Murica) meant that stuff fizzled, and nationalism and capitalism became fashionable with Israelis.

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92d99c  No.844298

>>844125

Who's this nameless and omnious entity called 'they'?

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92d99c  No.844299

>>844207

My accountant is neither genetically, linguistically, nor religiously connected to Christ. The Talmud condemns all of our Prophets.

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d22f3f  No.844305

>>844296

Very informative.. When I wrote that, I didn't draw the parallel with Tatars and Kurds. I don't know enough about them. And I didn't realize some African Americans moved to West Africa. I did have gypsies in mind though.

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eea6d0  No.844320

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>>844296

>>844305

Just a correction.

Hapoel means "the worker", not labour.

And the logo def shows some…ideological influences.

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469e0a  No.844321

Truth is a larp. It feels like zoomer cringe to even say the word. Look at the crimes kikes commit then you tell me whether they come from God or Satan.

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