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687062  No.843237

I always wondered and could never get a straight up answer on a particular question. Why did God specifically choose the Jews as his people rather than just revealing himself to all peoples including Gentiles from the get-go, that is if he truly wanted to be known by different peoples? Gentiles often seem to be represented as second-class citizens in scripture and as someone who is white and of European descent (and also not ashamed of that fact) I get rather hung up on this.

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5c5037  No.843239

>>843237

Because the faith was developing until the resurrection of Christ and faith was weak among all peoples, including the chosen who are rebuked the entire OT. It would be absolute confusion if revelation of the Christ were fragmented all over the globe. After the resurrection, the faith has enough resilience to accept all peoples.

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db5869  No.843241

>>843237

inb4 racist "Christians"

The Jews weren't chosen as a people, Abraham was chosen as a person. He was told that from him would come a blessing to the whole earth. From him came his descendants, Isaac, Jacob, and Moses. By the time of Moses, God noticed that the descendants of Abraham were not being righteous and holy, so He set laws to set them right. Thus, God did not choose the Jews, the descendants of Abraham became Jews because they were chosen.

The gentiles were meant to be ministered to by the Jews as the Jews were ministered by the Levites. Thus, the whole world was *supposed* to know God through the Jews. But the Jews could not even keep themselves holy, let alone the world.

So the question "Why did God choose the Jews" sort of doesn't make sense. God had to choose *someone* to produce Christ. The line of that person would be "The Chosen People" i.e. the Jews. God chose Abraham because he was the most righteous person, and knew of God because Noah was his great grandad.

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efc775  No.843254

He didn't choose Jews, he chose the Hebrews of which Jews are a tribe

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703056  No.843256

>>843237

Ah yes, I'm absolutely sure the infallible God of the universe most certainly chose a bunch of scrawny ugly rat demons as his chosen people and not some White tribe who would actually succeed in surviving in the middle east without the help of American money and weapons. Op is totally not confused on anything whatsoever.

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db5869  No.843258

>>843256

What the hell are you even talking about

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92e752  No.843281

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>>843237

In the LEbanon bomb news we could see plenty of whites, everyone in the camera shot were whites sometimes so the middle east peoples had the same look as the rest of the meditteraneum. The arab invasions which changed the people's looks a bit came centuries after Christ. Meditteraneans go from pale to tanned. This doesnt matter much though as God is creator and saviour of all peoples. If this is an impediment to you then should a black or an asian have to reject God on a racial basis? Its pretty petty, only the salvation of the soul

matters.

As to why them, for the same reason that He chose to be born on a stable on a manger to the most humble of women who was herself a nobody.

They were some irrelevant herders, the most lowly of peoples.

God answers in the OT:

this is what the Lord GOD says to Jerusalem: Your origin and your birth were in the land of the Canaanites. Your father was an Amorite and your mother a Hittite. 4On the day of your birth your cord was not cut, nor were you washed with water for cleansing. You were not rubbed with salt or wrapped in cloths. 5No one cared enough for you to do even one of these things out of compassion for you. Instead, you were thrown out into the open field, because you were despised on the day of your birth.

6Then I passed by and saw you wallowing in your blood, and as you lay there in your blood I said to you, ‘Live!’ There I said to you, ‘Live!’ 7I made you thrive like a plant of the field. You grew up and matured and became very beautiful. Your breasts were formed and your hair grew, but you were naked and bare.

8Then I passed by and saw you, and you were indeed old enough for love. So I spread My cloak over you and covered your nakedness. I pledged Myself to you, entered into a covenant with you, and you became Mine, declares the Lord GOD. 9Then I bathed you with water, rinsed off your blood, and anointed you with oil. 10I clothed you in embroidered cloth and gave you sandals of fine leather. I wrapped you in fine linen and covered you with silk. 11I adorned you with jewelry, and I put bracelets on your wrists and a chain around your neck. 12I put a ring in your nose, earrings on your ears, and a beautiful crown upon your head.

13So you were adorned with gold and silver, and your clothing was made of fine linen, silk, and embroidered cloth. You ate fine flour, honey, and oil. You became very beautiful and rose to be queen. 14Your fame spread among the nations on account of your beauty, for it was perfect in the splendor I bestowed on you, declares the Lord GOD.

15But because of your fame, you trusted in your beauty and played the harlot. You lavished your favors on everyone who passed by, and your beauty was theirs for the asking. 16You took some of your garments and made colorful high places for yourself, and on them you prostituted yourself. Such things should not have happened; never should they have occurred!

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92e752  No.843282

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fb1de9  No.844679

>>843237

jews are not the chosen people, jewsforhitler did like 5 videos of the subject. look them up on b—-ute.

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54ce45  No.844712

>>843256

Seek Christ right away.

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fbe60d  No.844742

God has a tendency to lift up the lowly. The Jews of The Bible were a tribe of slaves owned by the Egyptians; You would be hard pressed to find a more lowly tribe of people, but with God's guidance they built the glorious Kingdom of Israel. It is meant to demonstrate the transformative power of God's teachings.

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289eab  No.845151

Jews are not the chosen people, the chosen people are the descendants of Abraham, that is, the Christians.

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