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b50ef6  No.842949

What do you know about this movement? What do you think?

I stumbled across this neocities site that hosts a PDF, https://housechurch.neocities.org/

Just skimming their main points it seems very similar to Baptist ecclesiology with some points of emphasis. I don't think any Baptist would ever say you can't meet in a house, but this movement says you must.

It's encouraging and wholesome to see people putting their convictions out here in what's clearly a passion project.

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1fa482  No.842950

Cont

There is a family in my church who had a bad experience in a home church and they discourage the movement. I would think that you're more likely to encounter fringe theology and people trying to reinvent the wheel

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2bd773  No.842958

>>842950

>I would think that you're more likely to encounter fringe theology and people trying to reinvent the wheel

Very likely that you’r either encounter this or just extremely lukewarm “cafe Christianity.” In either case, it’s better to go to a proper church with intelligently and clearly outlined beliefs that you can judge for yourself.

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3a2731  No.842961

>>842958

Enjoy your churches who sold their honor to the US government for a tax break. Their hands are tied behind their backs from even preaching the gospel of the KINGDOM of God. They preach a watered down message friendly to the kingdom of men. One that doesn't threaten the kingdom of men at least (while in some cases, it's getting completely brazen and outright hostile to the Kingdom of God). That tiny difference is the whole world. And it didn't come from LBJ specifically. But the Father of Lies himself.

And would you tell the house churches in China that they're lukewarm? Are you the type of person who just gravitates towards "official" channels? Because you'd be in a real mess over there. The CCP runs all of the churches in China. Be it Protestant or Catholic. The only ones even preaching the truth and saving souls and seeing bonafide miracles of God are house churches. The only ones who are an actual threat and get persecuted are house churches. If they were so "lukewarm", the Chinese wouldn't kill them.

If/When this plandemic ends, expect it to creep in just as bad a direction over here. It started slow, but now some of them are itching for a cultural revolution, just like China. They're already brainwashing mass media and already brainwashing kids with completely revamped school curriculums full of socialist, LGBT, and BLM propaganda. Your children will be forced to learn about trannies. Maybe even taught by them. They'll learn to "love" them. And if they're white, they'll be taught to hate themselves. If they're black, they'll be taught to hate others. And even get congratulated for committing clear violence on others. Just like they're praising grown adults right now for it. It'll creep into the churches eventually too. A pamphlet here. A pamphlet there. A compromised Elder or even preacher here. Definitely compromised individuals in the public sphere (tv preachers, bookwriters, archbishops, etc). You are in a WAR. And this isn't your army.

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cee8a0  No.842974

>>842961

You got really defensive over this.

>churches who sold their honor to the US government for a tax break

Are you really going to say that ALL churches are sell-outs because (in the USA) they are not taxed?

>they

Who is the “they” you keep referencing?

>would you tell the house churches in China that they're lukewarm

If you took a breath and read my post before typing, you’d have noticed that I said the words “very likely.” Of course there are probably home congregations that are just fine, but, just like most brick and mortar churches, most of the home churches are prone to one of the two possibilities I put forth.

Secondly, I am assuming OP is talking about home church in a society where religion is freely practiced. Even Scripture outlines contingencies when a congregation cannot for under normal circumstances.

In short, #notallhomechurches, but some home churches.

>It'll creep into the churches eventually too

So, your solution is to abandon churches instead of being the voice of reason to keep churches from degenerating? Every time you run away, you are giving the enemy more ground.

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7577b7  No.843056

>>842949

>>842958

I skimmed a bit through the document, and it does say it should have elder that direct the church.

From the document:

>Another problem may be that a brother brings an erroneous teaching or application, in which case the elders must gently correct the error. Regarding one of the qualifications for an elder we read: 9 holding fast to the faithful word as he was taught, that he may be able to exhort by sound doctrine, and to convince those who oppose it. (Titus 1:9)

I do agree, cafe Christianity would ensue if not controlled. Even wrong teachings. But what can one do in Iran where brothers are converting and persecuted? In China where they are persecuted as well. What about new Converts that simply can't go to a Church in these times of persecution. They should have a home. I see this document being a foundation of a /christian/ church. Maybe we could have a praying session on Sunday.

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1fa482  No.843059

>>843056

/christian/ is an imageboard. Churches are literal congregations of people.

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88b0fa  No.843084

>>843059

Yes I do agree. However you have people come here, starting threads confessing their sins and asking for help.

You have threads for discussing Calvinism, reading plans. This is a church, just a different one.

If we end up being chased away and persecuted, and have to congregate in secret? What about people who won't have the chance?

Would you still deny at least the comforting bosom of a community that you can "attend"? A lot of people don't have the same opportunities as you or me, so I'm just entertaining that possibility.

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