6d25d9 No.842317
>the Bible says other nations will learn from the mistakes of a fallen fellow nation
What actually happens is even though White nations who embrace degeneracy are suffering ethnic death and a nosedive in terms of quality of life other White nations still continue to embrace gay rights, abortion, and mass immigration.
>the Bible says the good people will leave fallen nations and not repeat their mistakes
What actually happens is Californians move to other states and continue to vote for the same degenerate destructive policies they did in their state.
Why is the Bible so blatantly wrong about this?
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6c9263 No.842321
Specifically cite the verses, consult commentaries to make sure you're not making up a reading, and show us the specific observable fact that contradicts the verses.
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c5d344 No.842323
>>842321
That takes effort and I'm not actually looking to construct a good argument that challenges your faith. I just want someone to prove me wrong so I can go back to having faith in the Bible again. Or maybe God doesn't want me to and He just wants me to be some weird Bibleless Christian.
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6c9263 No.842324
>>842323
Thats just not how the burden of proof works
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c5d344 No.842325
>>842324
But I want to be proven wrong. I don't want to make a good argument right now.
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8147ad No.842326
>>842323
That's not how demonstration works. You can only really prove something is false if you start with true premises and the conclusion is shown to be false. Likewise, you can only really prove something is true if you start with true premises and show the conclusion logically follows from it. If you study logic, you see that:
F-> T = T
F->F = T
and
T -> T = T
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8147ad No.842327
>>842326
(cont. hit enter too quickly)
Hence, it's possible to have a true argument with false premises. Like with the California example, they can be bad people and what the Bible says still holds because it applies to good people, not bad ones (which people that vote for infantile murder and just general degeneracy are to some degree or another). Also, like >>842321 said, cite the specific verses please.
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8147ad No.842328
>>842327
Btw. I'm saying the people that vote for degeneracy are bad not good so you don't get confused, because I being very unclear on that front
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c5d344 No.842329
>>842326
>F-> T = T
>F->F = T
>and
>T -> T = T
I took a logic class in college and I have no idea wtf this is. Explain this or you're making s— up.
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c5d344 No.842330
>>842327
>Like with the California example, they can be bad people and what the Bible says still holds because it applies to good people, not bad ones (which people that vote for infantile murder and just general degeneracy are to some degree or another).
Well that pretty much answers my second greentext in my op and you didn't need the verses. I'll go look for them though since you were kind enough to answer at least one of my questions.
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6b03d5 No.842331
>>842323
None of this makes sense.
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8147ad No.842332
>>842329
It's literally just material implication, which basically states that P->Q <=>~P v Q (P implies Q is logically equivalent to not P or Q).
>>842330
I guess the first one is really just an issue of time I guess. Plus, it's only through adherence to God that we avoid falling into degeneracy, and we clearly live in a society that flat out hates God so it's a given that evil is all around us.
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c5d344 No.842333
>>842332
>It's literally just material implication, which basically states that P->Q <=>~P v Q (P implies Q is logically equivalent to not P or Q).
Oh it's implies. I forgot about that because it's almost never used in programming.
I'm sorry I can't find the verses. I think they were in prophet books but some of those books are very long.
>>842331
No bully
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8147ad No.842340
>>842333
It's honestly fine. Just as long as your faith is intact, everything is fine.
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d6afd2 No.842343
States arent a nation look up ex kgb they will realize their mistake but it will be far to late.
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