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I don't think it's one or the other. Lifting heavy weights really does work make you more masculine.

>>841978

I admire your innocence. You've obviously not been trolled with any clips of gay porn actors. But many faggots are bodybuilders or athletes. Even ancient figures that get idolized today like the Spartans. I'm not saying they all are, of course. I'm saying it doesn't mean anything either way. It's just bad criteria to assume it leads to masculinity.

>>841972

It's called narcissism. They're actually not concerned with helping even though it seems like it. They just want to make themselves look good so what accomplishes that end is of most importance to them and actually helping someone is actually the last thing on their mind despite the act they put up. It's extraordinarily creepy on imageboards because there is no actual benefit to looking good due to anonymity removing reputation completely, so they're only doing it because they're literal npcs following the programming they learned outside here… real creepy to think about.

>>841978

If being strong and aggressive is masculine then the sermon on the mount would make Jesus gay. Jesus isn't gay, therefore your conception of masculinity is wrong.

>>841983

That's really poor logic. None of that follows from muscle being masculine.

>>841984

It's not poor logic. If you think physical power is masculinity then you're going against the sermon on the mount. We aren't monkeys. There's more virtue to human manhood than physical strength.

>>841985

He told us that faith itself would move mountains, and to cut off our own hands if they are responsible in putting us in danger of hell.

Not to say you literally need to cut off your limbs off, but it does demonstrate the emphasis on spiritual well being and virtue here.

That all said, the bible does promotes health and cleanliness. That would lead to physical well being, but there's nothing about being buff. Even in the Old Testament, it's greatest warrior hero was just a scrappy teen who killed a giant.

>>841986

I think you agree with me. I am muscular myself but I don't make it the defining trait of my masculinity or self worth.

And also why not point out all that ridiculous stuff in the sermon on the mount when kikes use it to shill cuckoldry and faggotry? I mean come the winnie the pooh on. I'm supposedly your ally but you pull this bulls— on me instead of the kikes. I think you all hate me. You have knowledge but you don't use it to promote virtue, just to hurt me who calls out narcissists. And you'll never share your knowledge with me unless you're trying to tell me I'm wrong or insult me. You all deserve the flood and I hold you accountable to that.

>>841986

What did I do to be your enemy? I asked you guys for years to tell me how you justify not following the sermon on the mount, and it took you until today to finally spill the beans, and you only told me because you thought sharing the knowledge would put me in a compromising position. You'll pay for your occultic treatment of Christianity, hiding knowledge from those who seek and using it as a weapon against people who disagree with you. It took four winnie the pooh years to get you to say two damn sentences. And when I got close to the truth and suggested maybe the sermon on the mount was a joke you all got angry with me and screamed "NOOOO THAT'S NOT THE CASE, IT'S ANYTHING BUT THAT!!!" I understand your flavor of evil now, humanity. And I understand why God wrote in Revelation He knew He'd need to purge you again.

>>841990

Don't let these people get to you. Anyways, in a day or two I'll do a Bible study on here for the Sermon on the Mount and we can go through it thoroughly to see what it means.

>>841972

You don't have to come to God for everything. If you have a cold, there's nothing wrong with going to the pharmacist and buying some medication for it.

You can pray to God that your plans succeed, that you're able to successfully arrive at the pharmacist, purchase the medication and return home but ultimately, there's nothing wrong with not turning to God for something like this when the problem can be dealt with in a more worldly manner (I don't wish to bash being grateful to God that your worldly plans succeeded).

Admittedly, I don't know how exercise could resolve the issue of homosexuality but nonetheless, if someone has some kind of addiction to trap porn, yeah, praying would help but I think this is a worldly problem. Their trap preference would probably die if their consumption of pornography ceased as well and so the worldly means of abstaining from porn would most likely be the cure.

If Science reveals something about the nature of the world God has placed us in then I think there's nothing wrong with making use of this worldly means to resolve our problems. There's nothing wrong us relying on our own power if you acknowledge that whatever power we have is power that God allows us to have.

>>842008

I agree with you until you say this,

>if someone has some kind of addiction to trap porn, yeah, praying would help but I think this is a worldly problem.

That's something that's a spiritual problem as well since it can and will affect your relationship with God, since it offends Him that you like to engage in sodomy (even if it is a 2D representation of it). That's something you definitely should bring to God. I learned that the hard way by trying to fix my regular porn addiction and general loneliness due to a lack of women in my life on my own. It only got me much more entrenched in my quagmire and brought me further away from God's light. It's really a miracle I was even able to get out of it. We are limited and the recognition of that fact is a blessing God uses to help us ask for His infinite-beyond-all-comprehension grace. You don't have to pray when you get a case of the sniffles or get a splinter or something like that, but make your needs known to God and ask for His grace to flow though you and accept it so that through Him, by Him and with Him, we may draw closer to Him in all things, especially if those things threaten to put distance between you and God.

>>841972

>If the advice you all had given worked, trust me, the world would know by now.

"The world" is highly confused and in denial right now, going through an identity crisis and committing genocide and suicide in record numbers. You might as well say that if faith worked, the world would know by now, which we both know isn't true. The world makes the conscious decision to reject Logos day after day; why should we care about what it thinks?

>Telling him to exercise more

That was me, I couldn't think of the proper answer at the time and thought I'd chip in with one tip like that so maybe he started seeing himself in a different light and didn't have the problem of low testosterone ALSO on top of other factors, but you're right

>>842013

The world would've known it because there are a lot who do what was suggested to leave homosexuality. Not everyone who has the desires wants to embrace them and neglecting this truth while throwing out bad advice shows you don't care to learn and don't care to help in any meaningful way.

>>842149

Suggesting video games are useless is ridiculous. God has revealed quite a lot to friends and I through them. I enjoy playing them with Him.