34b736 No.841389
Hey, sorry to stop lurking to post, but I honestly just need some Christian encouragement and advice. I'm almost entirely positive I just caught my dad cheating on my disabled mom, and He's going to be going to church and playing in the band tomorrow. I'm going to talk to our pastor tomorrow, but I was wondering how I would approach the subject from a Christian angle with someone who's so Christian on the surface and yet does something so evil in private. I love my dad, and he loves me (I think). I'm still young, only just an adult, live with him. Again, any advice or encouragement is appreciated. (Synod is WELS/ELS btw, but am pretty open to Orthodox/Catholic practices, so all, feel free, pls) (also pic related, it's a snap I sent to a few close friends abt what happened leading to my discovery)
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c7d411 No.841408
>>841389
I don't think this type of stuff is to be confessed over the internet, so it is probably best to, if you still need, only do it in person.
Can you tell what kind of disability your mother has?
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da2da6 No.841438
>>841389
This is terrible. I'm sorry. Call him out completely and cut him off as much as possible. It's the only good thing you can do for your mom's sake as well.
Family aside, the same would go even with friends. You must cut out a person like this out of your life. Especially when you know their spouse (or are friends with them too). It's impossible to face the offended spouse while hiding the other's sin or being light on it.
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da2da6 No.841441
>>841438
That sounds harsher than I intended. What I mean is, don't forget your mom. You talk about dealing with love for your dad, but remember her first. Then your dad second.
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34b736 No.841458
>>841408
You'e probably right, just had no-one else to talk to about it at the time.. She had a stroke when I was younger, for the record, and along with other illnesses, happening at the same time, it has made it so that she can no longer walk, and has trouble comprehending and remembering a lot of things. Right now she stays in a nursing home, and before Corona we visited every Saturday and Sunday.
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34b736 No.841459
>>841441
Thank you, and I understand the harshness, and that was what my initial reaction was going to be. I'll try not to act to vindictive I guess, but I'm working with the church. Our lives are very interconnected right now though. but once I go to college that will be easier.
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22b1aa No.841512
>>841389
> I'm going to talk to our pastor tomorrow,
you're jumping the gun, you little backstabbing weasel. Honor thy mother and father. Before you publicly destroy your father's reputation you have to make sure that he's doing what you suspect.
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22b1aa No.841513
>>841438
> Call him out completely and cut him off as much as possible.
> usurp the role of your father and then destroy your family!
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22b1aa No.841514
>>841459
you're despicable. You're a Godless little asshole and I feel sorry for your father for having to raise a treacherous little bastard like you
>Genesis 9:20-27 And Noah began to be a farmer, and he planted a vineyard.
>21 Then he drank of the wine and was drunk, and became uncovered in his tent.
>22 And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brothers outside.
>23 But Shem and Japheth took a garment, laid it on both their shoulders, and went backward and covered the nakedness of their father. Their faces were turned away, and they did not see their father's nakedness.
>24 So Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done to him.
>25 Then he said: "Cursed be Canaan; A servant of servants He shall be to his brethren."
May you suffer the curse of canaan, you self-righteous scumbag.
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c7d411 No.841515
>>841458
You have my compassion. I guess there is little to be done but talking to your father.
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22b1aa No.841516
>>841458
>She had a stroke when I was younger, for the record, and along with other illnesses, happening at the same time, it has made it so that she can no longer walk, and has trouble comprehending and remembering a lot of things. Right now she stays in a nursing home
And if there was anything even remotely Christian about you then you would understand your fathers failure and help him rise above it. Instead of that you've seized on an excuse to destroy your own father. You are as despicable as a pedophile or a rapist. There is nothing honorable or Holy about you. You're just a self serving, self righteous piece of s— and God will remember your betrayal of your own father.
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d3276f No.841518
That is a terrible situation. As Christian brothers even though he's your dad you need to go to him alone according to Matthew 18. Your pastor should have more advice but your dad needs to be removed from any leadership in your church asap.
We'll pray for you.
I don't think there's anything wrong with soliciting anonymous advice.
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da2da6 No.841524
>>841513
It has nothing to do with usurping. But a father being reminded of his duty, both to his family and God. And in this case, the true father between them is God.
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da2da6 No.841525
>>841516
>And if there was anything even remotely Christian about you then you would understand your fathers failure and help him rise above it. Instead of that you've seized on an excuse to destroy your own father. You are as despicable as a pedophile or a rapist. There is nothing honorable or Holy about you. You're just a self serving, self righteous piece of s— and God will remember your betrayal of your own father.
Imagine being so deluded and defending adultery to the point that you accuse detractors as "pedophiles". Here I thought I saw enough craziness on the news where they call violent murderers and rioters as "peaceful protestors". But now I see even simple admonitions against sin as the same as "pedophilia".
You are truly lost. There's nothing scriptural to support you. We're supposed to bring up offenses between believers. Christ told you himself, "if a brother trespass against thee, go tell him his fault". But you would rather that things be hidden apparently, that families stagnate in a state of degeneracy, and just slander everyone who says otherwise. You worship masculinity and are no better than Muslims. They're the only ones who do this.
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22b1aa No.841527
>>841525
This is exactly the kind of response I'd expect from the satanic shill trying to con some self righteous kid into destroying his own family. His family is already in a tough spot and you're advising him to deliver the coup de grace.
Just like the story of Noah. Noah was at fault for being drunk and naked in his tent. Ham was still cursed for revealing his nakedness to his brothers and this self-righteous kid will fall under the same curse for the same reason when he betrays his father.
As for you- you're evil and you twist the word of God into evil. You might think your faux holy exterior is a convincing facade but it isn't. God knows your heart and so do I. You're a sewer rat in human skin.
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22b1aa No.841528
>>841524
>It has nothing to do with usurping.
Yes it does. The kid has no right before God to bring an accusation against his father to his church. The kid is making the mistake the young do- using on his own self righteousness as his guide, and all he's going to do is nuke his family from orbit and make a bad situation worse. Then he plans to run off to college to escape the fallout from destroying his own family. What a scumbag. The shame is that this useless little weasel actually believes he's a Christian. I would bet anything that his father is innocent of any wrongdoing and this little asshole just wants to screw his father because of childish animosity over the way his father raised him. He's obviously still too young and too stupid to consider his parents as human beings.
His father seems like a good guy to me. He's raising a family by himself and supporting his invalid wife instead of divorcing her and he's making time to play a role in his church. And all this while he has a treacherous backstabbing scumbag for a son. I can only imagine the kind of pressure he's under. If his father really did cheat on his mom then this kid should be thankful that's all he did. His life would be exponentially easier if he just divorced his invalid wife.
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d3276f No.841532
>>841528
>If his father really did cheat on his mom then this kid should be thankful that's all he did. His life would be exponentially easier if he just divorced his invalid wife.
Now that's an unbiblical take
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22b1aa No.841535
>>841532
>Now that's an unbiblical take
It's amazing the stupidity that passes for Christian thought nowadays. Your inability to reconcile the bible with reality is a big part of why your "christianity" is just membership in a social club. When Christianity was still Christian it wasn't opposed to rational thought and it's rational to feel thankful that his father hasn't melted down completely under the immense pressure that he bears.
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cda347 No.842534
Are you not betraying your father’s trust?
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409da9 No.842541
Approach your father about it. Be upfront, honest. Ask him if he's been sleeping with her; you saw what you saw and want clarification. Then you pray for him, for yourself, for your family, for all parties involved; if your father refuses penance, or denies or dismisses what you saw, pray for intercession on his behalf. If he does admit to it, and wants to make things right, again pray for him.
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