Hussite Wars and John Hus.

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Hussite Wars and John Hus. † 07/12/20 (Sun) 00:46:30 da6e4d No.840676

John Hus was burned at the stake in July 1415 for disagreeing with the Catholic Church on a number of issues such as that the laity could not drink wine in the Eucharist and the sale of indulgences, he denounced the often immoral and extravagant lifestyles of the clergy (including the pope himself), but he also made the bold claim that Christ alone is head of the church. In his book On the Church he defended the authority of the clergy but claimed that only God alone can forgive sins. He also claimed that no pope or bishop could establish doctrine contrary to the Bible, nor could any true Christian obey a clergyman's order if it was plainly wrong.

He was offered safe conduct by the Emperor Sigismund to the Council of Constance but was promptly arrested and trialed he had no opportunity to defend himself and was condemned to death. His priestly robes were torn off him and a paper hat was put on his head with the devil on it to show he was a heretic.

Arriving at the place of execution, he was asked by the empire's marshal if he would retract his views to save his life. Hus replied, "God is my witness that the evidence against me is false. I have never thought nor preached except with the one intention of winning men, if possible, from their sins. Today I will gladly die." The fire was lit. As the flames engulfed him, Hus began to sing in Latin a Christian chant: "Christ, Thou Son of the Living God, have mercy upon me," he also forgave his enemies for the fate they laid upon him.

John Hus death caused the outbreak of the Hussite Wars in his home of Bohemia. The new Hussite rebels threw Catholic clergy outside the windows in the city of Prague after Hus death. Bohemia broke out in open rebellion against the Holy Roman Empire using new methods of building wagon forts to repel enemy cavalry charges and trapping enemy soldiers in the small gap through the wagons and using new firearms and they even used women soldiers. Even being heavily outnumbered the Hussites won after 5 failed crusades called by the Pope and Catholic princes of the HRE, they were given religious freedom to practice their beliefs after the Catholic Church conceded to their demands. John Hus is now seen as a national hero in the Czech Republic today and his legacy and beliefs live on.

Thoughts on John Hus and the Hussite Wars and Catholics what do you think about him ?

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Ex brother 07/12/20 (Sun) 02:48:52 7644dc No.840691

>>840676

Never heard of him before your post. From what I’ve read in your post so far I’de say there’s a good chance that he was awarded a sainthood by Christ upon his death, something only Jesus can award a man with, and no man or pontiff has ever had the privilege of really being able to anointing such a title to anyone, since it is upon death that ones entire life can be judged and only God knows the details of a martyrs life.

I liked this story, and judging by the losses the Catholic church suffered it seems safe to say they killed a righteous man. Every righteous man killed by any denomination results in them being punished by God, and they lose power and land over it, as well as other things.

Let’s not fool ourselves, any one of the denominations out there would kill a man in order for their sins to not surface and in order to keep indulging in their own evil fruits in secret. Every organization with filth under them wouldn’t hesitate if possible to kill even a whole race of people if they could in order to not lose power and the cult-like control over people that they possess.

This is a great story, the man lost his life early but gained so much. Things he wouldn’t have gained otherwise. We all die in the end anyway.

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† 07/12/20 (Sun) 02:51:29 be9624 No.840693

Proto reformer and hero

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† 07/12/20 (Sun) 06:33:37 d332a2 No.840707

Protestantism was a sponsored rebellion; Martin Luther, through Georg Burkhardt, was sponsored by Frederick III, Elector of Saxony, because Luther advocated for the secular right of kings; John Wycliffe was sponsored by John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster, because Wycliffe advocated for the secular right of kings; Jan Hus was sponsored by Zbyněk Zajíc of Hazmburk, military advisor to the Bohemian King Wenceslaus IV, because Hus advocated for the secular right of kings.

Protestantism was a collection of rebellious movements and those that gained traction did so only because they were of value to the people in power. For by weakening the Immaculate Bride of Christ, the Catholic Church, the One Church established by Jesus Christ, the secular powers were able to hedge and strengthen their own position. The authority of the Magisterium of the Catholic Church was not divided between Scripture and Tradition, nor was it dissolved into individuals, by Protestantism. Rather that authority to dictate Scripture and Tradition was assumed by the Kings and their Royal Courts.

This rebelliousness against God and reason has persisted into our chaotic age through the specious philosophies developed for this same purpose at those universities sponsored by those same secular powers.

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† 07/12/20 (Sun) 11:53:22 be9624 No.840714

>>840707

>look mom I posted it again

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† 07/12/20 (Sun) 12:08:03 d332a2 No.840716

>>840714

It's natural to get upset when you realise you've been raised to be a stooge.

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† 07/12/20 (Sun) 12:10:17 be9624 No.840717

>>840716

I'm not the upset one here man

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† 07/15/20 (Wed) 16:05:52 000000 No.840952

>>840676

"Now we will cook the goose." (Huss in Bohemian means goose.) but there will come an eagle in a hundred years that you will not reach." Huss was martyred in 1415, the reformation started around 1515

>>840707

Yeah, because papists were willing to act in reason over earthly powers.🙄

>the Catholic Church, the One Church established by Jesus Christ

No one believes that, especially not historians, because it's faith that passes generations to generation that defines the Christian's faith, not the dirt that gets replaced the wind your leaders stand on.

>The authority of the Magisterium of the Catholic Church was not divided between Scripture and Tradition,

which is easy to do if you think that both are the same yet don't let them impact behavior as if they're part of objective reality

> nor was it dissolved into individuals

lol the people in charge of the Magisterium are nothing but individuals.

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† 07/15/20 (Wed) 16:14:48 41c933 No.840955

>>840676

>In his book On the Church he defended the authority of the clergy but claimed that only God alone can forgive sins. He also claimed that no pope or bishop could establish doctrine contrary to the Bible, nor could any true Christian obey a clergyman's order if it was plainly wrong.

He literally did nothing wrong.

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† 07/15/20 (Wed) 16:40:00 4f8d04 No.840958

>>840952

>Yeah, because papists were willing to act in reason over earthly powers.

So it's okay for secular powers to have control over people that represent God's church supposedly? If God is the head of your church, then why should temporal powers get a kickback from it and use it to make their own state churches?

>No one believes that, especially not historians

Most biblical historians are atheists that hold that Jesus was the son of Joseph and Mary and he wasn't resurrected after his crucifixion. If you want to go down that route and ignore the writings of the first and second generation of Christians, then be my guest. It wouldn't be the first time Protestantism led to deeper avenues of heresy and certainly won't be the last.

>which is easy to do if you think that both are the same yet don't let them impact behavior as if they're part of objective reality

Except that's not the case. Scripture is a part of Tradition, but there are numerous Edicts and Councils that were held over the course of centuries that encompass Sacred Traditions, along with the writings of the Doctors of the Church and the various catechisms documenting it. The last part isn't even special to any particular group. Even Jesus said there would be people that call His name and He would say He doesn't know them. Getting into heaven is harder than going through the eye of a needle.

>the people in charge of the Magisterium are nothing but individuals inspired by the Holy Spirit to clarify the Truths of the Faith

FTFY. Plus, it's not like it was one person in the Magisterium clarifying things. It's literally Councils and the like where a lot of these teachings were added to the Deposit of Faith.

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