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>begging the question

Considering the missionary impact of cessationists I'd say no, we haven't.

Do you speak in tongues? If no, why can't this exact argument be levied against you?

>>840259

I speak in tongues and as a missionary, I've seen God speak through dreams to people he was calling in. Muslims have been dreaming of the Man in White in droves. As well, seen visions given and words of knowledge. But I've also seen people become cessationists and immediately give up on their dreams of being missionaries. I've seen their ministries absolutely die and any movement for the kingdom dry up, as well.

>>840263

Sorry if it is rude, but how do you know babbling is speaking in tongues and not speaking another tongue proper? Where does it say it is babbling in the Bible?

>>840263

Do you speak in tongues with an interpreter like the Bible instructs? Can you show us video evidence of trustworthy, biblical tongues in your view?

>>840273

Ah, you're one of those people. I figured. Well, when you get to heaven, you'll be able to ask Jesus about this stuff. Don't worry. I follow the Bible and you missed something.

>>840279

I asked with a good heart and you repay me with smugness. I want to know whence you took this, genuinely.

>>840280

Well easy, the words come into my mouth as I open it. Oh yeah, I threw it into Google translate once and it actually translated to another language, "that the world may know." Will I do a video? No. Additionally, the Bible does say have a translator, hit it also says when by yourself you do it for the edification of the Spirit.

>>840281

So this mark of the spirit which has never ceased operation has no video evidence?

OP isn't acting in good faith, if he was he wouldn't have started the conversation with bait

>>840263

Your very rude. I too want to know how it’s possible to speak in tongues. The whole point of the first century Christians being able to was for the spread of Christianity to the world. They didn’t speak in tongues just for the heck of it. It had a purpose. What language do you speak when you speak in tongues? Did you go out there and find the people that understand that tongue and preach to them the gospel? The Bible uses the word tongue to mean language. I’m sure google translate would’ve told you the language, yet you didn’t tell us which one it was and you were insulting in the process. Speaking in tongues is a serious gift, I’ve never met someone who wasn’t lying about it. Usually you hear people say they do, yet, all they’ve done is memorize a prayer in Hebrew and chant it out like a possessed person. Surely the Holy Spirit would’ve taught you humility before giving you such a gift. So explain yourself better. I don’t know how I can test if you have this gift or not? Anything I ask you would be taken as an evil test.

>>840284

No. There won't be for a plethora of a reasons. Matthew 7:6.

>>840291

Well, let's go down the list. 1 Corinthians 14 actually says you're wrong.

14 Follow the way of love and eagerly desire gifts of the Spirit, especially prophecy. 2 For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to people but to God. Indeed, no one understands them; they utter mysteries by the Spirit. 3 But the one who prophesies speaks to people for their strengthening, encouraging and comfort. 4 Anyone who speaks in a tongue edifies themselves, but the one who prophesies edifies the church.

It appears speaking in tongues in private then can be edifying in private.

Google translate said Japanese.

Good for you having met so many liars. I speak English, a very little amount of Swahili, Russian and Spanish, but that's it. I don't know any Hebrew.

And no, the Holy Spirit did teach me humility. Do you seriously want to speak in tongues? That's the simple, yet hard part. There is no easy one track solution. The Bible says that the Holy Spirit speaks in unintelligible grunts that only God knows. Additionally, what is the language of the angels? We don't know. These two together indicate there are at least two other languages beyond our comprehension. That's to understand, when speaking you may not understand what you're saying, or be able to discern it, but that doesn't mean it's not something.

Anyways, here's the proper way: pray to God, eagerly desire the gifts of the Spirit as the Bible says, 1 Corinthians 12, and then when the words are there, speak them.

It's just like praying for a person to be healed. You have to believe it before walking in it and maybe it won't work a few times, but keep at it. Or hearing a word from God for someone. It takes a lot of faith.

>>840407

Thank you very much for this scripture, why it went unnoticed by me is a mystery to me. I realized something else that I don’t want to discuss here, it’s private. I don’t know why but I only realized it right now. Excuse me if I came of rude myself.

>>840409

You're fine and sorry about coming across as rude myself.

I would say, it sounds like God revealed it to you now for a reason. That being said, I would suggest talking with God, asking Him about the gifts, saying what you desire and more. Many nowadays don't think they exist, but they do. And we're living in the latter rains. We're living in the times Joel wrote of in Acts 2:28-32.

>>840470

Thank you friend. You’ve done me a big favor, I’ve already dismissed my first impression of you. Don’t even think about it.

I’ll definitely pray about what comes next. I don’t feel comfortable about asking God for anything but I’ll ask for more education on these matters and for his will to be done. If His will is that I receive a new gift then so be it, but something just doesn’t feel right about asking Him for a specific gift. I do have one in mind, but I know I don’t deserve something that powerful.

I’ll read these scripture you brought to my attention and pray on them. God bless you, brother.

>>840477

So, stay humble and ask him. One thing I would do is say, stay silent for five minutes a day listening to God. Say, "Lord, I give you this time to speak to me." Maybe he will, maybe he won't, but what I do know is that doing this will make God extremely happy and when he does speak, he'll say something amazing.

Anyways, let me tell you something. God has spoken to me through dreams and they've come true. He's given me prophesies and they've come true. He told me things would happen and they do. So, I'm not saying any of this to brag, but what I am saying is, don't limit God to what you think he will or won't do. He has an eye on you and I'm certain already has an idea of how He wants to use you since you're open now.

I've said it before here, but God gave me a prophesy to write down on a piece of paper and I didn't know who it was going to go to. I wrote down on it, "You're going to have a baby." Long story short, she was going through fertility testing right as this happened and would later, many months later, be told she'd never have a child herself to be told the following week that she was pregnant. She now has a beautiful baby girl.

Again, I'm not saying this to brag, but I am saying this all to say, keep your eyes on God, eagerly desire the gifts of the Spirit, and God will provide them to you.

God bless you too, friend. You'll do amazing things.

>>840481

Thank you for this advice. I know your not bragging, don’t worry. I’ll definitely try this as well with and open heart and humility. If you remember anything else that has helped you, don’t hesitate to post it. I’ll be keeping an eye out for more advice whenever God puts it on your heart.