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While exposure to this stuff caused your friends to become Christian, you don't seem to have any anecdotes of people growing in their Christian faith due to spending time learning this stuff so I don't believe you have any real basis for pursuing this kind of knowledge and filling your mind with this kind of information. If you wish to grow your faith, I don't believe this is the way to go. Even if this makes you feel holy, I think, reasonably, you should follow the examples set by other holy people.

Your fixation should be on God, not the Devil.

>>839811

I researched occult in passing when I was bombarded by demons. Never demonology. None of it got me closer to God. It was always the new stumbling block set before me by the devil. I came across what I did researching other things. It always sent me down a bad road that required me to get closer to God in order to survive. It was the fight that made me closer. The anti-bodies God have me in the form of information that made me stronger, not the poison. The devil wanted me burdened with all sorts of information without context. It required a lot of faith to survive long enough to get the context.

God allows the devil to plague us with whatever He sees us strong enough to fight. I never dove into the fight, I simply fell into it because I was a high-value target on the devils list.

Getting into the secrets of the occult for the curiosity is like purposefully grabbing a rattle snake and prying it mouth open and pressing the fangs on your arm. Getting into demonology is the same but pressing the fangs on your neck.

Sometimes we just walk and a snake bites us in the leg, that can only happen if God let’s it, and if He lets it then we can survive it and it’s something that will make us stronger. But one should never do it on purpose. One gets stronger spiritually by fighting the devil, but never by walking into a fight on his turf. Let the devil come to you if you want to get stronger, don’t go to him, and don’t call him to you. If you are living a good life, he will come to you, at that point you can win and become stronger because you have God’s blessing. Whatever information you come across while on the right path can’t be avoided though.

Adrenochrome was the highest level of the fight I had with the satan, and my hatred toward God. satan brought that to my attention because he lost every battle along the way. I wouldn’t want people to look into it if they’re faith is not strong enough to be assured that God sees everything about to befall everyone and doesn’t let anything happen to his children that they do not bring on to themselves.

If I get into detail about this I will offend everyone on this board and everyone coming across this post. The anti-poison is just as offensive as the poison. And even I have a hard time expressing what the anti-poison to this poison is. Everyone will learn about whatever God wants them to learn about. I try to not tell people about adrenochrome. Sometimes people need to know though. They need to know it’s not a lie. They don’t necessarily need to know the details, but it’s hard to leave the details out. I leave it to God, and I try my best to forget what I know because I’ve closed the matter in my mind after finding out why God has allowed it to occur. The Father is very just and Holy in all His ways.

Revelation 16: 4-7. Even the angels had to remind themselves after this event that God was just. They felt the need to declare it. It was so grotesque what had to be done that the angels had to emphasize it was justice. That means it was not the fault of God, but the fault of Humans. Nothing is ever God’s fault.

>>839852

What are you talking about? I’m not interested in adrenochrome. It looks like you think it to be a natural vitamin or something of the sort. That is not the case.

Maybe this is your poor way of making a point. Treat me like I’m stupid and speak directly. You clearly haven’t looked into this topic. Maybe you shouldn’t. In fact don’t bother looking into it. Stay blissfully ignorant, in this case it might be better for you.

>>839853

There is nothing spooky about adrenochrome. You can buy it and play around with it if you really wanted to. I apologize if you took offense to the slight jest I made. I thought you were being hyperbolic wrestling with satan over an industrial produced chemical.

>>839858

The industry produced chemical is not the same as the ones the elite are extracting. Usually when I argue a point I make it my goal to reveal the truth. But in this case when I come across a person that is in denial I allow them to stay in denial for their own sake.

I see the point your trying to make, and I’ll let you remain in your ignorance on this topic. There are things out there that are too painful to accept and can destroy a persons faith in God. I wouldn’t want to destroy yours. I am not offended by your posts, rest assured. I understand why you felt the need to allow this industrial product to be the end of your looking into the matter. May God watch over you and yours.

>>839862

>The industry produced chemical is not the same as the ones the elite are extracting.

If the spooky adrenochrome is not the same as the industrial adrenochrome then why do these videos show the same molecular "white rabbit" structure as the industrial adrenochrome if they are completely different? Why even use the same name? This would be the equivalent of me making a video talking about some spooky substance I called "water", then including a shot of the molecular structure H2O, but then saying that my "water" and H2O are completely different. Can you even see how that might feasibly sound a bit ridiculous?

>>839876

Yes I can see why you decided to believe this debunks the rumors. What do you want me to do? You want to believe the rumors? Let it go. Just don’t mock people for knowing what they know. Someone else just may prove it to you. But I don’t want to be that person. You can take it as me being wrong and not being able to back up my beliefs. As long as I don’t you can still believe what you believe.

Dude, he made a legitimate point.

Its simple chemistry.

The different, spooky adreno that has the same name as the regular thing, but is suuper special and harvested from living people, is literally an invention from "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas", except there it just got you high.

>>839887

There’s more to it than what shows up in it chemical build. Just like water molecules are all the same for water but some water is better than others. Distilled water is different than drinking water. Mineral water is still water but with active ingredients. They are both water but one has other things in it. The same for adrenochrome.

I totally understood anons point. It’s a rational argument, but one that’s only going to lead to the truth which is dark. There is a difference between chemical makeup and living substances. There are things that stay alive in the blood only when it’s fresh. I totally understand the point he made. I don’t want to take that from him.

>>839876

Water is a bad example. Water has many forms outside of atomical make up.

>>839911

The point was the chemical formula. Water may have other forms but it stays H2O, m8. If spooky adrenochrome is not the same as industrial adrenochrome, then don't advertise the chemical formula of industrial produced adrenochrome. Either they are the same or not.

>>839832

>While exposure to this stuff caused your friends to become Christian, you don't seem to have any anecdotes of people growing in their Christian faith due to spending time learning this stuff so I don't believe you have any real basis for pursuing this kind of knowledge and filling your mind with this kind of information.

This shill knows more than he lets on. He's probably a freemason.

>You shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free

Modern Christianity is devoid of truth, anyone that seeks to maintain that failure is an agent of satan. There are two worlds and the masses only know of the existence of one of them. Christianity has been neutered to belong in that world and be oblivious to the other one. The other world is "civil society", which is the blatantly satanic existence of the elite, a world in which the only people that are considered to be people are the elite that come from old bloodlines. They constantly rape and murder on a grand scale as sacraments to demons.

Finding out the truth of this secret world will open your eyes to thew truth of our world and the result is a real understanding of the evil that Jesus died to save us from. Without an awareness of this evil world, Christianity has been reduced to a spiritually powerless social club and that neutered state of Christianity is what the shill is attempting to maintain here.

>>839852

That site has to be a fed honeypot.

>>839832

>Your fixation should be on God, not the Devil

What if seeing evil help others find god? You earn the fear of god when you learn it keeps you safe from the devil.

>>839953

>What if seeing evil help others find god?

If people really knew how the world works then most of them would become Christian tomorrow. That's why the shill doesn't want the truth to be revealed here.

Wherever there are forums or places on the internet that can influence public opinion you'll find freemasons gaslighting everyone. There are at least 2 freemasons that pretend to be Christians and regularly post on this board. Most of the catholic v protestant threads are posted by those masons.

>>839895

>There’s more to it than what shows up in it chemical build. Just like water molecules are all the same for water but some water is better than others. Distilled water is different than drinking water. Mineral water is still water but with active ingredients. They are both water but one has other things in it. The same for adrenochrome.

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>I totally understood anons point. It’s a rational argument, but one that’s only going to lead to the truth which is dark. There is a difference between chemical makeup and living substances. There are things that stay alive in the blood only when it’s fresh.

Well, in that case, you aren't interested in the water, which becomes only a solvent, you are interested in the dissolved minerals and active ingredients that exist in the water.

Even with your example, it's nonsensical, since you wouldn't say you are harvesting water, but harvesting special spring/thermal water.

Also, if it's not adrenochrome, what substances are there that exist in this mix which do all the magical chemical vampirism?

>>840022

You guys are pushing me to discuss gross sins of satanists. You want the details? We’re gonna end up going into cannibalism and torture. What do you want? If you want to talk about it we can.

>>840027

Let’s start with cannibalism. The flesh of animals has a different effect when digested by the human body than the flesh of man. The flesh of man consists of heavy “spiritual nutrition”. It is not the same meat as the ones found in animals. The human body is different than any other animal in existence. Atheist do not see the difference but Christians know that humans are made in Gods image and so their bodies as well have a significant difference in their core. The human body is the best vessel in all beasts found on earth and it’s so well built that God decided to bless humans in His image.

Using terms like chemical build and molecular build are void for this conversation. Those are terms used by science that at best categorize things but do not prove them identical. Your faith in science is not even one that satanists share.

Side note, What we’ve been being told about cellular makeup in our schools has been proven a complete lie with the invention of microscopes that are now capable of recording cellular activity in real time without damaging the cells. Look up videos on YouTube of cells actually having moving organisms in it that are Picking and collecting nutrients. There are living organisms in the body that we’ve never been taught about.

Adrenochrome is extracted by torturing an animal till it’s blood is infused with adrenaline and other chemicals that create a high for the animal in order for it to cope with its pain.

Human adrenochrome is extracted by raping and torturing living children to the highs of their terror. Human adrenochrome is not the same as cattle adrenochrome. Human adrenochrome is the highest quality adrenochrome that can ever be extracted. It’s difference from cattle adrenochrome is night and day. Think of cattle adrenochrome as fermented apple juice and human adrenochrome as moonshine. Their both alcohol but not the same alcohol. Your fixation on chemical build is a coping mechanism itself.

Scientific instruments only measure what science knows exists. The human body is much more complex than originally though by science. Look into kirlian photography, it’ll give you an idea of How little science knows about the spiritual/energy field around a person and how little you know about spiritual sciences. kirlian photography will teach you to look at science as just a children’s explaination for life.

>>839952

nah. the feds allow the chinks to ship drugs to the US. they want us strung out and useless.

>>840028

>The flesh of animals has a different effect when digested by the human body than the flesh of man. The flesh of man consists of heavy “spiritual nutrition”.

Ok, so it's a spiritual thing, not a physical thing.

>Look up videos on YouTube of cells actually having moving organisms in it that are Picking and collecting nutrients. There are living organisms in the body that we’ve never been taught about.

Are you talking about motor proteins?

They aren't magic.

>Adrenochrome is extracted by torturing an animal till it’s blood is infused with adrenaline and other chemicals that create a high for the animal in order for it to cope with its pain.

Or you could jam a needle in it's adrenal glands, and freak it out.

What are these other chemicals, and why are they important?

>Human adrenochrome is extracted by raping and torturing living children to the highs of their terror. Human adrenochrome is not the same as cattle adrenochrome. Human adrenochrome is the highest quality adrenochrome that can ever be extracted. It’s difference from cattle adrenochrome is night and day. Think of cattle adrenochrome as fermented apple juice and human adrenochrome as moonshine. Their both alcohol but not the same alcohol.

No, you twat, it's the same alcohol, except one has a way bigger quantity of alcohol+warmed up grain remnants, barrel shavings and whatever, while the other has broken up apple juice in it.

Adrenochrome would be the same comparison.

>Your fixation on chemical build is a coping mechanism itself.

Dude, you were the one that brought up chemicals.

You can't throw around words like "chemicals" and "nutrients" and "it's a different type of X", and then say it's all spiritual and call everyone obsessed with chemistry, when people actually ask you what are these chemicals, and these differences.

If you had just said "they are rape torturing kids because that stuff is symbolically powerful, sacrifice wise, 40k style" i'd be like "atleast he's internally consistent"

>Look into kirlian photography, it’ll give you an idea of How little science knows about the spiritual/energy field around a person and how little you know about spiritual sciences. kirlian photography will teach you to look at science as just a children’s explaination for life.

Oh, so now you've gone into New Age energy stuff.

You see, this type of stuff is why i think "researching" conspiracies is stupid, and does more harm than good.

Besides the fact that you end up listening to all kinds of lies and propaganda by various political groups, you end up "contaminated" with all kinds of non-christian spiritual concepts.

>>840051

> No, you twat, it's the same alcohol, except one has a way bigger quantity of alcohol+warmed up grain remnants, barrel shavings and whatever, while the other has broken up apple juice in it.

Adrenochrome would be the same comparison.

I used alcohol as an analogy. Water was used as an analogy as well. These comparisons are just tools we’re using to communicate the differences.

> Dude, you were the one that brought up chemicals.

You can't throw around words like "chemicals" and "nutrients" and "it's a different type of X", and then say it's all spiritual and call everyone obsessed with chemistry, when people actually ask you what are these chemicals, and these differences.

I’m not the one who mentioned chemical builds in the beginning of this topic. It was a doubter that mentioned chemical builds. Do you only believe things that are explained in full detail and proven completely, if you do then you believe in almost nothing, since even studying biology requires one to have faith in the people writing the books and teaching them and even that is without video evidence of cells in action, well at least until now and after the video evidence of cells in action was captured the biology books of 10 years ago are proved erroneous.

If you had just said "they are rape torturing kids because that stuff is symbolically powerful, sacrifice wise, 40k style" i'd be like "atleast he's internally consistent"

I didn’t feel the need to research this like a student researches a craft. Once I wasn’t able to deny it I stopped looking into it further. When one realizes this goes on in the world the pain is too burdensome to educate yourself fully on the topic. Neither do scientific studies exist on the topic that are available to people. People only know it exists and dig into the topic by investigating. People have unearthed the rituals and the evidence. I doubt any scientific lab has actually committed to a detailed study in this. We know what others have uncovered and what they’ve uncovered is fact. I just needed to know what the devil was up to in this particular case which I only researched because I was trying to prove it false, I didn’t need to know every detail. People only call it a conspiracy because it’s not in the mainstream media. In fact everything is a “conspiracy” until it’s on the news.

>>840051

> Oh, so now you've gone into New Age energy stuff.

You see, this type of stuff is why i think "researching" conspiracies is stupid, and does more harm than good.

Besides the fact that you end up listening to all kinds of lies and propaganda by various political groups, you end up "contaminated" with all kinds of non-christian spiritual concepts.

This is not new age conspiracy stuff. This is the closest science available to explain existence of the spirit world. This science is a fact and many governments have invested money to get deeper into it. This proves the existence of a spirit. The experiments that they’ve done in plants using this photography has been a breakthrough in how scientists see the world around us, and energy.

There is no waking up to the world without getting into conspiracies. All whistleblowers are bashed as conspiracy theorists. You are falling for the lies that keep society stupid and ignorant of the dangers around them. Conspiracies are how the world works. ‘Conspiracy theories’ are the title given to everything the powers do not want you to know about.

Stay asleep. Not every conspiracy theory is true that’s also a fact. But many are and many also are half of the truth. Conspiracy theories don’t drive people crazy, they’ve just learned things that have changed their lives but many are true. Conspiracy theories separate awake people from the asleep.

The computers and phones in our hands would be brushed off as conspiracy theories by people who have never seen them as well. You don’t actually think you know everything, do you? You don’t actually think every bit of information is available to you, do you? You don’t actually think that just because you don’t want to believe something it isn’t true, do you? Mankind is always up to something. You’d have to be a fool to think some of those things are not traumatizing to people just by hearing it.

What they are doing is not much different from the child sacrifices scattered throughout history. As a Christian, you need to be more open about the hobbies of the devil. They keep coming back into existence. The problem is when people don’t want to tell others evil keeps going undisturbed, when they tell people they get mocked and interrogated about it till the interrogator finally finds a reason to call the informer crazy. Conspiracy theories are going to prove themselves one day. Some people can’t handle waking up and so it’s better to leave them be. But you will mock and mock. Feeling superior along the way. In truth you are too weak to see the truth. I didn’t want to believe this either, but because I couldn’t lie to myself I had to accept the truth.

You didn’t have to mock all conspiracy in the process of debunking this one. I see the kind of person you are. You are wrong.

Conspiracies and educating yourself about them sets a man free from the mental chains of mainstream bullsh!t. Once one becomes a conspiracy theorist he can no longer be lied to easily, nor return to his state of sleep. You’ll know how it feels one day when you come across a truth and get called crazy for trying to tell it to others. It could be something very simple. All true Christians run into conspiracies of some sort eventually. It’s a matter of time. If you think your government doesn’t hide anything from the people you are dumb, if you know they do then you are a conspiracy theorist yourself.

Go back to sleep. You don’t want to wake up to this

>>840053

I don’t know what happened to the colors in this post. Sucks that it makes it harder to understand.

>>840051

Your funny. You want details but want me to go straight to the point. “If you had just said…”? I gave you enough so you can research it yourself. This is not just symbolically powerful. This is the choice drug of the satanic elite. It changes their bodies and mind. It provides them with demonic energy that eventually will take its toll and kill them slowly through deseases because the human body is not built for canabalism. They believe in many myths about it as well. But they use it nonetheless. It is not an immortality serum.

>>839811

OP because of your thread I now clearly see that researching some of this stuff has indeed gotten me closer to God. I don’t know what council to give others about it, wether they should or shouldn’t. But you can put me on that list of people you know that have gotten closer to God by researching this stuff. God bless you. Also, may God give all of us the strength to endure these last days.

>>840060

Of course kirlian photography works on metals too. It uses a current. I didn’t say it only photographs the spirit or the aura.

On top of it all I’m not the go to guy for all this information. Go get into it yourself. Hear it from people that know about it better. Look into the reports from legit scientists, many who questioned their own beliefs afterwards.

I just know what was enough for me to see it was true. What made you think I know everything about the subject?

Speaking of kirlian photography, you clearly haven’t seen the experiments with plants. It photographed a leaf that was freshly cut and the photo showed a ghostlike duplicate with veins, identical to the piece of leaf that was cut. There’s enough there to prove to a person that there is a spirit realm, and aspects to the physical world that haven’t been measured yet. What makes you think I’m a PhD in this stuff. This is not the place to go if you want to learn this. Go put in a non-biased effort. You’re not even looking into it properly.

>>840060

Been looking for the video i came across a few years back. For the life of me I can’t find it. I’m gonna have to take the L on this kirlian phantom leaf thing until I find that video. If I can’t I’m gonna have to abandon what I thought I knew on the matter and definitely abandon telling people about it.

I’m not finding any videos but new age garbage on the matter. The one I saw a few years back was nothing like the ones I’m finding today. Sorry anon.

Conspiracy theory is maybe one of the devil's most subtle schemes. He tells you exactly what he's doing, then he leverages it against you. The Holy Spirit will warn you about any spiritual danger you might be in. You will not save yourself with the arm of the flesh, but by trusting in God ALONE! I cannot stress this enough. I learned something via a conspiracy video from a brother I thought I could trust, and the devil could have destroyed me with it if I hadn't received the sacrament of baptism when I did and tremendous grace from God. I literally just started witnessing to a man on a jog and he turned out to be a member of a baptist church and he told me that I could have the holy spirit without a proper baptism and he baptized me. And even after that I had to fight the thought of this thing and was brought to the brink of despair over it a number of times. Trust in God, not bugout bags and being "vigilant". Vigilance is not about learning about what the devil is up to so you can save yourself by going in to the wilderness, its about having a watch of the heart and not falling into temptation. Here's a video that I think will help. For my part I would feel like learning of this kind of evil constantly would grieve The Spirit and produce tremendous groanings. But it is not for me to say what God has called you to.

>>842334

Personally, I find vigilance means I can improve the accuracy of what I pray for. I think it's good to be more exact in what we pray for but yeah, I'd absolutely prefer to avoid seeking out conspiracy theories. I just pray for whatever I stumble upon on the Chans.