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I would point anyone that disagrees to John 8:47 and 1 Corinthians 1:18 (Authorized version).

>>837515

God didn't write the Bible.

>>837530

Apocrypha*

>>837530

The absolute state of Catholics. Even the Saints disagree with you.

>>837515

>>837527

You're twisting those scriptures. Logically, there is a step missing in your thought process.

step 1: the word of God is eternal, unchanging and profitable to all men

Step 2: show that the bible and the "word of God" are synonymous terms

Step 3: the bible is the complete and infallible word of God

You skip step 2 because it's not in the bible. The bible was compiled 300 years after the death of Christ and some of the scripture that had always been considered to be the word of God up until that point (the book of Enoch, for example) was rejected by the early church. The early church was formed by a pagan emperor to act as the state church of the Roman empire. Scripture that Jesus and all the apostles considered to be the authentic word of God was rejected by the roman church.

More importantly, the belief in the complete and infallible nature of the bible isn't a belief that is required for salvation. It's not mandatory to get into heaven so making that your red line is just using your belief as a tool of evil to wreak havoc and divide the body of Christ. Stop rejecting Christians for stupid reasons. Overcome the divisive spirit that infects protestantism.

>>837532

No, they don't.

The Word of God is Christ, read John 1.

>>837541

What rock did you grow up under?

"The mouths of the inspired authors are the mouth of God, after all; such a mouth would say nothing idly—so let us not be idle in our listening, either . . . Pay precise attention, however: the reading out of the Scriptures is the opening of the heavens.” - St. John Chrysostom

"Ignorance of the Scriptures is ignorance of Christ.” - St. Jerome

"We speak to God when we pray; we listen to Him when we read the Scriptures." - St. Ambrose

“For the Scriptures were spoken and written by God.” -St. Athanasius

"Therefore let God-inspired Scripture decide between us; and on whichever side be found doctrines in harmony with the word of God, in favor of that side will be cast the vote of truth.” -St. Basil the Great

“In regard to the divine and holy mysteries of the faith, not the least part may be handed on without the Holy Scriptures. Do not be led astray by winning words and clever arguments. Even to me, who tell you these things, do not give ready belief, unless you receive from the Holy Scriptures the proof of the things which I announce. The salvation in which we believe is not proved from clever reasoning, but from the Holy Scriptures.” -Saint Cyril of Jerusalem

"When we pray, we talk to God; when we read Scripture, God talks to us." -St. Isidore of Seville

"The Old Testament is like a radio with its hidden voice announcing the One to come. The New Testament is like a television because the Word became both audible and visible." - Archbishop Fulton Sheen (not a saint, but "blessed")

>>837556

Well whatever their status they're wrong because different books of the Bible contradict each other.

>>837556

Athanasius is literally the only one there who said God wrote it, and everyone else purposefully avoided saying God wrote it.

>>837545

>>837557

Both these anons are correct but I lack the ability to explain in detail the reason that is.

Not many Christians can accept that the Bible is manipulated/mistranslated and that we default on Christ and The Father who provide guidance to Christians in real-time till this very day, through the Holy Spirit.

Haven’t any of you ever realized that you always knew something to be true and you saw the proof of it later in life? Maybe you called it a “hunch” or a “lucky guess”. With me I realized my “hunches” were correct on the most strangest things that were proven correct years later. Many of the “hunches” I had were while I was in a cult. I realized that it was the Holy Spirit telling me to not trust my religion, as it turned out to be false. I always used to assume it was doubt and an evil spirit, because it was contradicting my cult. Have you guys never realized that about yourselves? Not about your religions just other things.

>>837545

This is actually an anderson tier take. He holds up the Bible and says "behold, God"

Logos the person and the word of God are different. There are biblical uses of the phrase "word of God" not referring to Jesus, it means prophecy or scripture.

>>837539

The Bible is defined as all inspired scripture

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