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1e577d  No.835308[Last 50 Posts]

How do alt right Christians reconcile their political and religious beliefs? Christianity is inherently multicultural.

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e6af3e  No.835311

File: 10d1f539232392c⋯.jpg (453 KB, 1583x2048, 1583:2048, Nation.jpg)

>>835308

"Alt right" is a pretty loaded term but I'm sure you're just referring to identitarianism/nationalism.

Christianity is multicultural because it's the truth to all nations, but not in disagreement with there being different nations.

It's the same with sex. Christ redeems members of both sexes, and there's an equality regardless of sex, but a man is still a man and a woman is still a woman.

Christians should reject globalism and egalitarianism.

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29988b  No.835312

>>835308

>Christianity is inherently multicultural.

I don't think you know what "culture" means, because religion is core to a culture and people. You've stated a contradiction, Anthropology wise.

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29988b  No.835314

File: ee6e8c9a2ea543a⋯.jpg (202.67 KB, 1280x1626, 640:813, Nationalism_has_belessing_….jpg)

Honoring your father and mother, and by extension your own people and culture, are religious values straight out of the 10 commandments.

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13edcf  No.835317

>>835308

Very easily.

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746ede  No.835319

>>835311

I could see that working within a Christian framework, but by no means is that doctrine. The Roman Empire was inherently multicultural, although people did generally stay within their boundaries, adopting the customs and cultures of different people groups happened fairly regularly in the Roman Empire. Christianity is a great example of that, it being from Judea and spreading far and wide through the Empire, particularly among Hellenistic God-Fearers who sympathized with Jewish customs in the first place without actually converting to Judaism. The kind of nationalistic race based theories you and the so called "alt right" propose are rather recent 19th/20th century theories which, as I already stated above, can theoretically work within a Christian framework but are not doctrine in any way shape of form, certainly not in the same way the doctrine about the differences between sexes, that's comparing apples and oranges.

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e6af3e  No.835320

>>835319

I'm referring to nations in the ethnos sense, not nation states

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1e577d  No.835322

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>>835311

Yeah I'm using alt right pretty generally here. I'm just referring to the many so-called Christians who claim to follow Christ and then turn around and treat their fellow man like s-. Or they get butthurt over meaningless s- like racemixing and immigration. Not very Christ-like.

>>835312

I'm also using multiculturalism generally. There is no difference between any nation or people in the eyes of God. These are man-made constructs, false idols if you will. Jesus teaches in Matthew 25 that what we do to others we so do to Him. Jesus said "Love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another." John 13:34-35.

>>835314

"For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me."

Matthew 10:35-37

>>835317

…?

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a33e8c  No.835327

>>835308

I can't answer regarding alt-right but Christianity is inherently multi-ethnic, not multicultural. Small cultures get swallowed up by bigger ones, and the bi-product of a unifying belief system taking root is ultimately one domineering culture within a geographic expanse, not many. In expansion through the world we built bridges to pagan practices, but not their beliefs. It's important to keep in mind that distinction.

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a33e8c  No.835328

As for why people are able to reconcile their nationalistic beliefs, I believe it's simply to do with wanting to cleave to/conserve that domineering culture within their nation. Allowing immigrants with their own aggressive expantionist belief system threatens to disrupt that. That's not necessarily anti-immigration, but against certain types of immigration. For example, conservative MPs here in Aus were very open to recieving the persecuted white South African farmers. Similar culture, similar/same beliefs/religion, much more easily to integrate into our society than say a Libyan Sunni Muslim family of 8.

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661b91  No.835340

>>835322

>There is no difference between any nation or people in the eyes of God.

Maybe you should try reading the Bible sometimes. John is referred to as "the disciple whom Jesus loved", giving him a different status compared to the others apostles. Caïn was in anger because God liked Abel's offering better. In the Old Testament, Joseph is the favorite son. Israel is the chosen people, and so on.

The equality you're talking about has more to do with communism, and is often confounded with our views.

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746ede  No.835342

>>835320

Ok just don't put your political views over the faith that's all I'm saying.

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d7bf03  No.835346

>>835308

>Christianity is inherently multicultural.

It is anti-racemixing because the Bible clearly states that the nations will be separate at the time of the Second Coming.

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a39778  No.835348

>>835340

And all of that is tied to their actions regarding the Lord(or their parents).

Assyria and Egypt are blessed in Isaiah, with words that are awfully Isarel-like, despite being cursed and hated through most of the OT(including in the previous verses!) for being d—s to Israel, just to give an example off the top of my head.

Also, if we are talking about favourite offspring, Esau lost his genetic birthright in one day, by being an idiot.

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1e577d  No.835350

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>>835340

Maybe you should try reading The Bible some time:

Galatians 3:26-28 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

Or you could try following Jesus Christ:

Matthew 7:12 "Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets." John 7:24 "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment." John 13:34 " A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another." Mark 12:31 "Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself." Matthew 5:39-44 "But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also. And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain. Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away. Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;"

>>835346

John 10:16 "And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd." John 17:21 "That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me."

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661b91  No.835351

>>835350

You are arguing that humans should all be equal in the eyes of other humans, or rather I should say christians. That's not the point I made, I said we are unequal in the eyes of God.

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d7bf03  No.835353

>>835350

>John 10:16 "And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd." John 17:21 "That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me."

Seethe more you mixed-race abomination, you will always be despised by traditional Christians.

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dc1ab8  No.835357

That depends on whether the political views are themselves christian views or not. If not, there's nothing to reconcile, you have to abandon them if you want to be a good practicing christian.

>>835312

Also this

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e6af3e  No.835359

File: b59e9d0256338f5⋯.jpg (670.64 KB, 2550x3300, 17:22, Tolerance_rainbow.jpg)

>>835350

>Love means egalitarianism

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bd4d8b  No.835360

File: 35d30ca241036a1⋯.png (431.88 KB, 2028x1576, 507:394, hehe.png)

>>835308

How do far left Christians reconcile their political beliefs with the first 1,950 years of Christianity?

Were the crusades, outlawing of sodomy and homosexual marriage left wing positions in your view?

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337ffb  No.835361

>>835308

Define racist. In the modern day just pointing out that different races have different characteristics, as a result of genetics, is viewed as racist. Everyone will joke about asians being small, Danish people being huge, but when you say something about blacks having a lower AVERAGE IQ. Then it's the end of the world. Ironically it turns into a black v white scenario when certain groups of asians have the highest average IQs by race.

IQ and these other characteristics will have consequences and problems in the real world. Look at the disproportionate amount of crime committed by blacks in America versus whites. That is a problem, and to address it requires acknowledging that it exists. I don't take any joy in people being born with an intelligence that in some cases means they can't do two digit addition, in the same way I don't take joy in others being born with bodily deformations, these are unfortunate facts of nature. Parts of Africa didn't even have the wheel when Europeans arrived. That's a very sobering and unfortunate fact, that's life on this Earth. It's not fair.

Many people will be born worse looking than me, poorer than me, unhealthier than me, dumber than me. Many people will be born better looking than me, richer than me, healthier than me, smarter than me. These characteristics vary both by person and by groups.

It is not racist to point it out, if we want to address these issues we need honest dialogue, not people crying and currying favour to get brownie points.

> Christianity is inherently multicultural

Christians should be united in faith but God made different nations, read about the Tower of Babel. This is fundamental BASIC Christian teaching. I knew these stories at age 4/5 but people will continue to make these points. I don't know if it's ignorance or purposefully misleading. Either read the Bible or be less leading with your words. Wilful confusion is no better than lying

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a39778  No.835365

>>835361

While i consider that each population has their own characteristics(see a black church service, no matter if protestant, catholic, or orthodox), one shouldn't listen to the "race realism" crowd too crowd.

It's absolutely poor attempt at science if i've ever seen one.

>inb4 whataboutism or "are you saying we are genetically identical?"

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e6af3e  No.835366

>>835365

Denying race realism is by definition rejecting genetic fact. Did you mean to imply that?

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e6af3e  No.835367

>>835342

That goes without saying but it's interesting that this is almost exclusively a worry expressed to right wingers. I suspect it's because the overton window is so far left/egalitarian.

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a39778  No.835379

>>835366

Im implying it's stormfags trying to sound smart and biological, but not being able to express themselves using actual biological or taxonomical terms, instead using metaphors about dogs or whatever, and their citations being limited to Lynn and "The Bell Curve" book(or amateur neo-nazi blogs).

Not exactly the scientific method in action.

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6a4ba1  No.835401

>>835379

As opposed to dismissing the state of the science because it's believed by people you don't like, perfectly scientific! Your argument would be less stupid if the mainstream's definition of a "neonazi" weren't "anyone who believes in biological difference between races."

Pretty much every much every study measuring intelligence has found consistent racial patterns that are basically congruent with supposed "folk" racial ideas, no one serious;y involved in the science questions this. Though there are plenty who throw up smoke bombs when asked about the cause, since it's a death sentence in academia to acknowledge that it's certainly genetic.

And since you're such a great scientific mind, why don't you explain to us what was wrong with the bell curve? If anything it's central thesis has only gotten stronger with time.

>>835322

>Race mixing and mass immigration are meaningless

Holy winnie the pooh galaxy brain, who knew that those things never had any effect on anything, what an argument

>He that loveth his father and mother more than me is not worthy of me

<That means hate your family and culture it's worthless

winnie the pooh fork-tongued pharisee, you call others not Christ like while you pervert the Gospel?

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be98f8  No.835419

>>835308

>racism

>Christianity

pick one, we are all the sons of adam.

>Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

>John 7:24 Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment.

>Acts 10:34-35 So Peter opened his mouth and said: “Truly I understand that God shows no partiality, but in every nation anyone who fears him and does what is right is acceptable to him.

>Matthew 28:19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.

>Colossians 3:11 Here there is not Greek and Jew, circumcised and uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave, free; but Christ is all, and in all.

>

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f2a126  No.835421

>>835401

>As opposed to dismissing the state of the science because it's believed by people you don't like, perfectly scientific! Your argument would be less stupid if the mainstream's definition of a "neonazi" weren't "anyone who believes in biological difference between races."

Lmao.

Touched a nerve, didn't i?

You got awfully trigered that i called your crowd out. that you have to resort to playing word games on what is a nazi, and stupid ad hominems.

Unfortunately for you, b—-, i'm not playing this cliched game of you trying to get me on the defensive by implying some caricatural viewpoints(you faggots are awfully transparent and predictible).

And yes, your "science" is still just neo-nazism that tries to hide it's ideological claptrap behind that thinly veiled sciencey-sounding jargon.

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1e577d  No.835431

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>>835351

I'm not arguing anything. I'm simply quoting Christ Himself.

>>835357

That's my point. Aut right political beliefs are inherently not Christian. Stormfags worship their church's history and traditions more than they worship Christ. Case in point: >>835353 >>835360 >>835401

>>835419

Brofist

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337ffb  No.835461

File: 447eecb86d7d900⋯.jpg (100.28 KB, 746x888, 373:444, 1588440506017.jpg)

>>835431

You don't seem to address the Tower of Babel point

>Galatians 3:28 (KJV)

>28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

Christians are spiritually one as the immaterial supersedes all earthly things, but God made the nations distinct.

>Acts 17:26 (KJV)

>26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;

you said

>Christianity is inherently multicultural

It sounds like you're playing smoke and mirrors because this is easy to understand if you know of the Tower of Babel or just have a cursory knowledge of scripture.

Multiculturalism implies different peoples bringing different from different nations cultures to a place and having them blend to the point of a new culture being formed. This contradicts the concept of God making distinct nations. This is not some racist statement used to justify any undue rules. All men can be brothers in Christ but on Earth we live lives with bodies of the earth. We are bound in spirit but we are of different tribes. We have different customs, different traditions, different bodies, different blood, different history. We are distinct. This is omnipresent if you read the Old Testament especially.

You can make clarifications and play word games but you seem to be treating others here rather unfairly. Once again, you play word games with them when the give you their thoughts and a paradigm in which these things make sense. You may treat me the same way making minute clarifications about the precise definition of multiculturalism but that does a massive disservice to you. You only need read our words and accept them as our view. You asked a question and people are gracious enough to engage you. Despite you labelling the thread 'Racist Christians', again reinforcing the other anon's point about even a slight challenge to the political orthodoxy being seen as racism. You don't seem to be here for discussion or want of knowledge but only to cause trouble. Shame.

>Genesis 11:1-9 (KJV)

>11 And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech.

>2 And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there.

>3 And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them thoroughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for morter.

>4 And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.

>5 And the Lord came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.

>6 And the Lord said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.

>7 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.

>8 So the Lord scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city.

>9 Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the Lord did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the Lord scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.

Don't bother with some slimy counterpoint where you bend God's word. I think this thread has had enough of your underhanded concern.

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337ffb  No.835462

>>835365

You're completely gliding over my point and trying to cover your bases nonethless.

First by making a measly concession which attempts to bypass giving any explanation for these group differences

>While i consider that each population has their own characteristics

Then throwing a dismissive insult so you don't have to address the substance

>It's absolutely poor attempt at science if i've ever seen one.

And finally by covering your backside on the far side of the argument.

>inb4 whataboutism or "are you saying we are genetically identical?"

So you concede that there's group differences. But then you jump and say well it's ridiculous to say we're genetically identical. There's a very comfortable middle in here because some things are the consequence of genetics, some are the consequence of nurture, and some are a mix. Once more.

Nobody has any complaints when you say

>East asians are shorter, they have flatter faces, they have more yellow/olive coloured skin, they have smaller eyes. They score highest on IQ tests (on average)

>Black people have bigger lips, more protruding jaws, darker/blue-based skin, they have dark eyes and wiry hair. They score lower on IQ tests (on average)

>White people have smaller noses, sometimes pink or olive based skin, they have a variety or different hair/eye pigments. They score in the middle on IQ tests (huh duh on average)

So if we see these obviously genetic differences in appearance and physical characteristics, are we to believe that these factors have ZERO consequences for behaviour? Obviously not. This isn't the basis for anything horrible but when you see these huge group disparities, you need to address that it exists before you can find a solution. Just because a group has lower average IQ doesn't mean I meet someone of that group and think "Hur dur they're dumb haha". but when these things concern government and broader society we don't have the privilege of viewing individuals. We must consider groups and demographics.

I hope if you're genuinely confused that you understand this post. Further attempts to obfuscate only prove >>835401 's hunch.

You choose whether or not you're Winnie the Pooh the fork-tongued pharisee

Your entire reply here >>835421 seems to only prove your bad faith and snake-like ways. Please seek God, read the scripture, and repent for this.

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3861d5  No.835479

>>835419

Actually, we are also all sons of Noah.

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a39778  No.835487

>>835462

As expected, you doubled down on the ad hominems and the "there are, like, differences, man".

Go study taxonomy and it's terms, please.

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337ffb  No.835493

>>835487

You read my wall of text, didn't address a single point with any proper rebuttal, and then said I'm the one not arguing properly. You literally claim a fallacy before immediately straw-manning my point.

You ought to repent for this dishonesty. Various people in this thread entertained your biased question and gave their time arguing in good faith. And yet you have the gall to respond so flagrantly all maintaining this high and mighty attitude. Truly a great shame.

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a39778  No.835500

>>835493

Dude, I'm not getting bogged down in your painfully obvious attempt at steering the conversation with vague rhetorical questions and statements, especially since so far, the whole thing has been EXACTLY how i predicted you would talk.

>race realism is poor science;

>Are you implying X?(i love that cliched response)

>I'm implying it's a poor attempt at political ideology trying to sound smart and scientific, because X,Y,Z, and that it's just neo-Nazis trying to shoehorn their societal policies.

>Also, dont give me the "So you mean to tell me there are no differences?"(another canned response), and try to actually be rigorous.

>Ah, so you agree there are differences;

>And those differences are important, because it means we need to apply these following societal policies;

>And you are being intellectually dishonest for not following my script;

Now, given my experience with you fags(you seem to be very predictable) i assume you will either give some passive-aggressive response, or you or some other stormweenie will grow frustrated at this whole thing not working, and start spamming infographics they found on /pol/.

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337ffb  No.835502

File: 938ef260883b11f⋯.jpg (79.07 KB, 436x399, 436:399, 1587209920524.jpg)

>>835500

>Enter with a question about reconciling politics with religion

>Say Christianity is inherently multicultural

>People offer plenty of Biblical evidence to the contrary

>You can't just ask for an opinion then accept it the view someone has given to you

>Tempt them into anger with your word games and condescension,

>Begin insulting people

>Call us nazis, neo-nazis, stormweenies, and stormfags

>Act high and mighty all throughout

You're clearly here in bad faith and your words are laced with venom.

You're trying to bait people, insult people, and do this scholarly semantic trickery on a Christian board.

How big and righteous of you, I hope it brings some pleasure to your empty heart brother.

James 3:16-17

16 For where jealousy and selfish ambition exist, there will be disorder and every vile practice.

17 But the wisdom from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, open to reason, full of mercy and good fruits, impartial and sincere.

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a39778  No.835505

>>835502

I'm not even the same dude with the multi-cultural remarks.

I started here >>835365, because again, I consider your field is just putting biological-sounding lipstick on an ideological pig.

But you can think anyone who disagrees is one liberal SJW guy all you want.

And yes, my point still stands.

"Race realism" is a poorly made attempt at neo-nazis trying to hide behind impressively-sounded papers.

Not that they are any subtle about it.

Read up on any of these journals, and half the articles are political whining.

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67fda7  No.835632

File: c4d037b8e076f65⋯.jpg (44.69 KB, 600x600, 1:1, 7c3.jpg)

>How do alt right Christians reconcile their political and religious beliefs?

Still waiting. All we have so far is cognitive dissonance copeposting. Case in point this guy: >>835461

>>835462

>>835493

>>835502

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94f12c  No.835646

Is this one of the threads were immigrant supporting leftists act as if they were Christians again

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e6af3e  No.835648

>>835502

the quality and rareness of the reaction image really does correlate with the quality of the post

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29988b  No.835661

>>835646

I think so.

I suspect their intent is to create a situation that inflicts so much pain on our own that we give up Christianity.

IOW, the immigrant supporting godless leftist are doing the devil's work as usual.

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a8573a  No.835687

Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>835311

>>835308

Considering the Following

/pol/ was just cheering on black rioters last night because they burned a target down. Guess the other businesses they looted were just acceptable loss. the fact of the matter is the average /pol/tard empathizes with blacks more than white people because they are closer to blacks

>most are mutts

>most are unemployed and on welfare

>most have never workout regularly or self educate

>most have never run a business

That's why /pol/ sides with the blacks

Neet a N word for a reason

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fffc50  No.835692

>>835308

They're not Christian in the first place. None of them have been baptized with the Holy Spirit. That goes for a lot of people though.

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ffc54c  No.837260

File: 4f12a49cb6696fe⋯.jpg (100.47 KB, 600x434, 300:217, 1453402932512.jpg)

>even a moment of peace to any capacity in all the social standings

>multiculturalism

choose one

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d54fb9  No.837278

Races are different. God created the nations and set their boundaries.

https://voxday.blogspot.com/2020/06/mailvox-waking-up-to-churchianity.html

>Racism is not, and has never been, and can never be, a sin, unless God Himself can sin. To claim otherwise is pure inversion. And only the wicked deem the separation of sheep and goats, of wheat and chaff, of truth and lies, to be evil.

https://voxday.blogspot.com/2020/06/exposing-enchantment.html

>Racial equality and content of character are not only the same sort of Enlightenment spells as free speech, free trade, and the labor theory of value, they are deep Promethean psyops that have successfully demoralized and paralyzed the Christian West for the last 60 years.

I don't like tiggers. They are dumb, ugly, and violent. I disbelieve that they are Christian, but yet mere LARPers. I judge them by their fruit. I treat them with Christian decency as per the Golden Rule, but I keep them at a distance.

I like East Asian people. They are quirky, intelligent, and I find their women attractive. They are very respectful and family oriented, almost to suffocating levels. I wish they would all come to Christ.

I extremely abhor kikes. They truly are the Synagogue of Satan and a curse upon every peoples. They should be flung far away from civilization to feed upon each other rather than be allowed to leech from "goyim."

This is fine. This is racism. I am a racist. I am a Christian. I am a nationalist, but not alt-right. Alt-right is LARPagan or fedora and globalist imperialist with a white rulership, not nationalist at all.

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e6af3e  No.837284

>>837278

>Races are different. God created the nations and set their boundaries.

Amen

>I don't like tiggers. They are dumb, ugly, and violent. I disbelieve that they are Christian, but yet mere LARPers. I judge them by their fruit.

Practice what you preach

There will be blacks in heaven, and you can not hate a brother.

Stop going to /pol/ for a month until you turn 20

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d54fb9  No.837293

>>837284

I don't hate them. I dislike them. Let them be with their own, in their own lands. I don't want to be around them. I treat them with decency, but it is not usually reciprocated except with a small few that I work closely with.

>turn 20

I am over 30, lad. Go live in the midst of them and tell me you love being around them.

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e6af3e  No.837301

>>837293

That's reasonable but it wasn't the impression I got from the first post

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d54fb9  No.837304

>>837301

>wasn't the impression I got from the first post

Read before commenting next time.

>>837278

>I don't like tiggers.

>I treat them with Christian decency as per the Golden Rule, but I keep them at a distance.

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c4b138  No.837347

>>835308

>How do alt right Christians reconcile their political and religious beliefs?

Easy, the bible is racist, both the new and old testament. Diversity is not satanic. You've had your morality inverted by modern brainwashing techniques so you think evil is good and good is evil.

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e1b501  No.837348

>>837293

Do you hate African Americans because of their culture ? If so how do you feel about blacks from Africa?

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ed53cf  No.837349

>>835308

IIRC don't the Alt right simply believe in white only state? That doesn't go against any Christian teaching. Hell weren't parts of various cities in the Roman empire segregated by ethnicity(Greeks, Jews, Copts) back in 0AD

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d54fb9  No.837384

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>>837348

>Do you hate

Do you read?

>>>837348

>how do you feel about blacks from Africa?

Better, but I still don't want to be around them.

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c4b138  No.837387

>>837348

>Do you hate African Americans because of their culture ?

that's like saying you don't want chimps roaming the stret because of hcimpanzee culture. The problem with blacks isn't their morally bankrupt culture, it's that they are violent apes.

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9a23cb  No.837388

>>835308

I’m not an alt right person. I definitely don’t support racism. I wouldn’t call myself a racist but many people have told me I sound racist. I had a friend who married a black woman and we aren’t friends anymore because he won’t shut up about his wife’s culture’s oppressions. I treat everyone equally and that means if I can’t care about my own peoples sufferings due to the fact that my own people have gotten chastised by God, and I don’t hate the enemy of my own people then I’m certainly not going to care about another’s. He was already looking for a reason to break our friendship because he’s a JW and I’m an “apostate”, so he took advantage of me not “kneeling” to his wife’s race to create an excuse that I’m a racist and we can no longer be in each other’s lives. I was infuriated because I knew he was looking for a reason to kill our friendship, and I was ready for an honest reason and he came up with something to blame me for it.

Ever since then I realized something. When African-Americans become Christians, they want their other Christian brothers to kneel to there blackness. When African-Americans enter Judaism, they want everyone to accept them as the lost master Hebrew race chosen by God. When African-Americans become Muslim, they go full black-supremacy. Also, when you find a black friend you can invite them to your other group of friends and most everyone accepts them, when the black friend finds you he can’t invite you to his other group of friends because of their racism toward the new white friendship. The whole things a mess. I feel bad for African-Americans because I’ve met some really good ones with big hearts but their own race puts pressure on them to rid themselves of outside friendships. And the bad apples of that race ruin it for the good ones. I know I can shut my peoples mouth if they get out of line, but blacks can’t seem to do that to their own people. And being an immigrant, I know that racism exists for all races to endure, but it’s nearly impossible to convince blacks that they are not the only victims. They have a lot of hangups and I think every other race is sick of trying to deal with those hangups. Because of their insecurities they have only managed to segregate themselves from a non-segregated society. It’s not racism to notice the weaknesses of other races. Since all races have strengths and weaknesses. Blacks have a lot of strengths but they’re subverting there own strengths. As a nation they want all to kneel to them, as individuals they are much better people.

True racism is the belief that the other race is inferior. I don’t see blacks as inferior, without their hangups they can be a very powerful race and dominate any field they put their mind to. But the way things ended up, they are approached with great caution. It sucks.

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9a23cb  No.837391

>>837387

I was at a point in my life where I was starting to talk like this. Surprisingly I found a way out. Watch ‘tommy sotomayor’ on YouTube. He’s a black guy who highlights the faults of his own people. After listening to him for some reason my own hatred went away because I realized that blacks go through a lot in their own peoples hands and we don’t even know the half of it.

Watching him was like fighting poison with poison. He makes jokes/fun/jabs at everyone, but mostly blacks. It has a strange effect of removing ones hatred toward blacks. He took a big weight off my shoulders, and he’s really funny. If I ever come into money, I’m going to donate $10,000 minimum to his channel because he healed a lot of hatred I had. But I’m piss broke now and can’t do that.

I’m still cautious around blacks, but there is no hatred now. Maybe I will always keep them at a distance but at least I don’t hate them.

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d54fb9  No.837396

>>837391

>I was at a point in my life where I was starting to talk like this

It's okay to not like people. There is a difference between hatred and dislike. I don't want to kill them or genocide them. That's hatred. I want them gone from around me. Out of my country. Out of sight, out of mind. To be left alone with their own people and barred from entry.

Trying to condition yourself to love tiggers is cucked. I work with many of them daily. Most of my workplace is tiggers. Just being around them is enough to inoculate yourself from the cucked behavior you speak of. What you talk of doing is the same thing liberals do. Speak highly of tiggers and other undesirables, yet prefer to live far away from them, pushing/forcing acceptance of them onto others.

>I’m going to donate $10,000 minimum to his channel because he healed

This has to be bait.

>Ex brother

I am always going to take this as you not being Christian, because every time I see your posts I want to punch you.

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9a23cb  No.837398

>>837396

Hahaha. Bait? I’m not advertising for anyone. I only said what’s on my mind, picked that number as an example to how helpful his channel was to me. I didn’t tell you to donate. It’s free anyway to watch. If your always gonna try to find something to be suspicious about your never gonna be short of any reasons.

And I am a Christian, I’ve been called a fake Christian all my life because of the cult I was in and now that I’m out I’m still being called a fake. You think I care after a lifetime of statements like that?

You say things like “your land” and “there land”, but God decides who to give what. I’m not a fan of places with densely populated blacks but there in your land because of the sins of your ancestors, God demands America to take care of it’s rape children, from any land they entered and raped. They entered Vietnam and now you have a little Vietnam in this country. They enslaved Chinese so now you have a little China, and etc. in fact every nation that has entered into America creates its own mafia to survive the original American supremacy from Washington’s days. Your land? Are you a Christian yourself? Then you are not of this world, so shut the F up about ‘your land’. Your ancestors created this mess, hate them instead. Be a Christian, and disassociate yourself from the things of this world, including its lands and your own people. True Christians are a christian’s people, regardless of color or creed.

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9a23cb  No.837404

I’ll admit to something. It’s not fair for a lot of you to have to deal with me if you hate me so much. I’m sure by now the capital letter “E” pisses a lot of you off like nothing else has ever in a while. This is just not fair for the lot of you. Because I have no way of knowing who I’m speaking to 98% of the time it’s impossible to know which threads I’m invited to by the OP and which ones I’m not.

I’m two days away from putting a solid month into being here and although it’s been great at times, I don’t have to do this anymore. There are 2-3 people that join this board regularly and they are more than good enough to educated the weak on here about Christ. I’m starting to believe my work here is done. I’m not perfect myself and there is a lot I can work on as being here has shown me. it’s not fair to many of you that you have to be irritated by my personality, if it was just my imperfections that many of you were annoyed by I could’ve curtailed them, but it’s my personality that many of you hate. It’s who I am at my core that many of you can’t stand.

The things I learned that got me out of my own personal problems are things I can’t prove to you. Maybe that was the reason The Holy Spirit told me to keep coming here. But I’m starting to get the feeling that my work here is completed. And I’ve realized since coming here that I can trust more of the Bible than I had previously thought, still not everything though. I thank everyone for that. You helped me see that, even though I didn’t know you all could change that. So in a weird way, through all the fighting, it lead to a win for me. I hope somehow you’ve gotten similar benefits from my barking. For helping me see the Bible in a brighter light than I had before I came here, I hope The Father blesses whichever ones that helped with gifts.

Maybe two more days and I’ll be out of here. Just hold on two more days people, that’ll make it an even 30 days and I like even numbers. Actually it’s 2 more days counting today. OCD much?

I could really use the extra time that will free up if I stop coming here. This is actually the third time I’m trying to tell you all farewell and go back to my hobbies and I hope it’s the last time I have to do this. Isn’t compulsion to do what you feel God wants you to do a drag sometimes? I mean, I really want to stop coming here to but guilt brings me back. I wonder how much of the back and forth going on in this Christian board is God compelling us to exhaust one another so we can become flexible enough to be molded by Him better. But I think about the people in my life that can use this time I’m giving to strangers and it’s just not fair for them anymore. I have a life and must go back to it. So two more days (counting today) and I’ll just tell The Father I’m done. Pray that He lets me walk away from here everyone, seriously. I’m supposed to be Ex brother, not brother. I’ve gotten too close than I’m comfortable with some of you, I’m actually talking about some of you in my prayers, yuck! that’s against my personal antisocial hermit beliefs.

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d7fdae  No.837521

God created the races and cultures to be separate and unique. The black race is a unique creation of God, and to destroy it would be bad. The same can be said for all races.

Cultures are a different thing altogether. Multiculturalism is based on the assertion that all cultures are valuable and equal in their value. I don't believe this is true. I can't see any value in a culture that revolves around criminality, sexual misconduct, and drug abuse. The black race is valuable but African American culture is mostly worthless. Only heavily Christianized cultures have any value.

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c4b138  No.837537

>>837521

>Cultures are a different thing altogether. Multiculturalism is based on the assertion that all cultures are valuable and equal in their value. I don't believe this is true.

It is true. The culture of a nation is the results of the genetic capacities of the people. What works for one group may not work for another. That's the problem with multiculturalism, it's a culture entirely fabricated by social scientists without regard to the genetic capacity of the people.

Take blacks, for example. When left on their own they form violent, primitive societies. That's the best kind of society for blacks because that's the only way they can impose any sort of order on themselves. That's horrible for whites because we form orderly societies. But our society wouldn't be best of the Japanese because the Japanese form societies that are more orderly than European societies.

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bd4d8b  No.837554

File: 46200290bfeb0f4⋯.png (424.38 KB, 700x616, 25:22, no_smoking.png)

>>837537

>Take blacks, for example. When left on their own they form violent, primitive societies. That's the best kind of society for blacks because that's the only way they can impose any sort of order on themselves.

This isn't accurate. Genesis 9:25 clearly states the descendants of Ham, who now populate Africa, are cursed. It's at the decree of God.

Jerome in his commentary on Ezekiel 30:5 identifies the crossbred sodomites in that verse as inheriting the "cursed covenant of Egypt" and being destroyed. Read your Bibles instead of appealing to secular notions.

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c4b138  No.837605

>>837554

>Genesis 9:25 clearly states the descendants of Ham,

blacks aren't the descendants of ham. The descendants of ham were modern humans. Sub Saharan Africans aren't modern humans.

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b945ae  No.837638

Esau lost his birthright for marrying Hittites.

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b945ae  No.837640

>>837398

>but there in your land because of the sins of your ancestors

t. leftypol s—poster.

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d54fb9  No.837673

>>837398

>sins of your ancestors

Slavery isn't a sin, and my ancestors never partook in it. Go fly a kite, virtue signalling faggot.

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fffc50  No.837678

>>837638

No, read. He lost the birthright because he was stupid enough to throw it away with his own words. Then Jacob dealt a further final blow through his own wiles and got his father's blessing (not birthright).

All you have to do is read. It's not asking much.

And Hittites were racially not any different than Abraham's tribe - you all would know that if you weren't sheltered, homeschooled rednecks. It doesn't take very much to educate yourself on the basics of Mesopotamian nations, but none of you can even manage that either (then again, you can't even read a few lines in scripture about Esau apparently). Abraham was from the now modern Turkic-Syria-Iraq region (Mesopotamia) originally. As were Hittites. He came from Ur specifically. His race was no different than the Babylonians later on, who who became a byword and a curse of a nation. The difference with Abraham and Jews was a matter of covenants. Not race. Covenants.

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bd4d8b  No.837706

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>>837605

The implication of that would be another creature in the image of God was made before Adam. This isn't recorded in Genesis.

>>837678

>And Hittites were racially not any different than Abraham's tribe.

>Abraham was from the now modern Turkic-Syria-Iraq region (Mesopotamia) originally. As were Hittites.

Hittites are in the line of Heth (Gen. 10:6-20) who was a son of Canaan. Abraham is in the line of Shem (Gen. 11:10-26). The descendants of Shem and Canaan are distinct racial groups as per Gen. 9.

More fundamentally, it's completely incoherent to claim Hittites and Israelites (descended from Abraham through Jacob) are in the same line, otherwise God would have allotted the land of Canaan, the Promised Land, to the peoples already there.

As for Babylon so many different ethnic groups lived there, to the point where Ps. 74:14 states that Ethiopian tribes inhabited Babylon, it would be inaccurate to describe it as a monoracial kingdom.

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f2a126  No.837717

>>837706

Regardless of how you apply racial clasifications to the Levant(a subject which frankly reaches absurdity, but you know, /pol/l, point is that Esau lost his birthright over porridge.

The inter-ethnic marriage bs is an asspull of the highest order.

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bd4d8b  No.837865

File: a8f2bb5699d2731⋯.jpg (287.1 KB, 1780x1191, 1780:1191, martin_1820a.jpg)

>>837717

>Regardless of how you apply racial clasifications to the Levant (a subject which frankly reaches absurdity)

Classifications aren't being applied ad hoc, it's simply what's recorded in the Bible. Understanding the Bible includes understanding the ethnic and racial component of the text.

In the book of Joshua and Judges it's explicitly stated which peoples are to be physically removed from Canaan. Josh. 3:10 lists them after Deut. 7:

>When the Lord thy God shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out many nations before thee, the Hittites, and the Girgas—es, and the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites, seven nations greater and mightier than thou; and when the Lord thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them: neither shalt thou make marriages with them; thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son.

The violence was mutual: in Gen. 34:30 Jacob appeals for help, as the Canaanites and Perizzites are threatening to wipe his people out. Deut. 20:16-18 states to not destroy the Canaanites would be blasphemous due to their abominations. In Josh. 13:1 God chides Joshua for not going far enough. According to Judges 3 God decreed these remaining Canaanites were left to "teach war", but the Israelites quickly began to miscegenate with them for which they are rebuked in Ezra 9-10:

>For they have taken of their daughters for themselves, and for their sons: so that the holy seed have mingled themselves with the people of those lands: yea, the hand of the princes and rulers hath been chief in this trespass.

>Ezra stood up and said unto them, Make confession unto the Lord God of your fathers, and do his pleasure: and separate yourselves from these foreign people.

None of this is absurd or arbitrary in the eyes of God. The early commandment in Lev. 21:14-15 for Levites to "marry within their own people" demonstrates this. This is reflected in verses like Ezekiel 30:5 where mongrels are condemned to the same fate as Egypt, and throughout Revelation where all the whoredoms of Babylon will be destroyed.

>point is that Esau lost his birthright over porridge.

This is a myopic view of the text, which seems inevitable when attempting to reconcile secular egalitarianism with what is actually being communicated. It seems unfair that God hates Esau (Mal. 1:3, Rom. 9:13), but as Ephesians 1:4-6 says God has chosen who He loves from the foundation of the world.

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f2a126  No.837870

>>837865

Lots of words to say nothing.

Esau lost his birthright over a lentil stew, and that's the story, pure and simple.

For crying out loud, it became an english idiom, "for a mess of pottage".

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f2a126  No.837871

>>837870

And then doubled down by tricking his dad into blessing him.

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8512b5  No.837872

>>835308

They same way all hypocrites resolve things, by pointing the finger at someone else.

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6a4ba1  No.837901

>>837872

>The same way all hypocrites do

By being totally consistent with Faith and Tradition? It's a better question of how liberal anti-racists square explicit negro-worship and ethnomasochism with the Christian religion.

100% of anti-racists who say they would be as totally uncharitable and nasty to non-Christians as they are to "racists" is lying. Just shows who their real God is.

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f1b893  No.838066

>>835308

Christianity doesn't require you shun the truth. In fact it encourages exactly the opposite. The "races" are different subspecies, possibly even different species, according to genetic distance measures. So what does that mean? Well, different species behave differently. They think differently. All of what I have said so far is established fact. No ebil raycism yet.

Now, if you could teach a gorilla to sign the words "I am saved", is the gorilla saved? I think we would agree the answer is No. Being saved requires more than just superficial signalling. It requires understanding what being saved entails. It requires understanding the nuance of God and the covenant that he has given man. So a gorilla probably can't be saved, because there are intellectual mechanisms behind accepting Jesus Christ as your lord and savior, which a gorilla simply doesn't possess. Still no evil racism yet.

I assume we all agree on that last part, but maybe I'm wrong. Maybe there are Christians who believe that if you sprinkle some holy water on a person born with no brain, that vessel of a human is "saved". But then what? What if you baptise a dog or a squirrel? Well that wouldn't work obviously. They aren't human. They are different species, and God instructed us to have dominion over them.

So I think you can infer the ultimate conclusion which I've left unsaid. You may not believe it but the reality of understanding hinging on intelligence is there, and the genetic reality of intelligence is there, and so all of these uncomfortable questions are there. These are the sorts of questions that a "Racist Christian" might ponder. God's creation is complex and inhomogeneous, and we must confront it as it is, because projecting our own wishful fantasy onto His creation would be an insult.

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f2a126  No.838084

>>838066

>The "races" are different subspecies, possibly even different species, according to genetic distance measures.

Jesus Christ, you are retarded.

The closest thing to races taxonomically are ecotypes.

The rest of your post is so incredibly moronic, it's not even funny.

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d54fb9  No.838145

>>838084

>takes the Lord's name in vain

Tells me all I need to know about you.

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229f79  No.838202

>>838066

Humans are very diverse in culture, physical features, psychology et cerera, but we know that we are the same specie because intermixing of different races can still produce fertile offspring.

As for intelligence, I think even mentally disabled man can find salvation in Christ. Your job is to spread the gospel, race issues and stuff are all worldly concerns.

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0773a1  No.838249

>>838066

What about the term "ethnicity"?

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f2a126  No.838290

>>838145

No counter-argument?

Guessed so.

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d54fb9  No.838301

>>838290

*Tips fedora

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f1b893  No.838856

>>838202

>but we know that we are the same specie because intermixing of different races can still produce fertile offspring

As a counterexample to your statement, Ligers (a hybrid between two species) can reproduce. But anyway "species" is an arbitrary definition. My point was that the races are genetically different. Whether they are different enough to be labelled different "species" is entirely arbitrary and definitional. My question was whether they are different enough to all be the same religion. Obviously there are distributions. Even within the whitest of the white societies, there are retards. So how you handle the aforementioned question really depends upon whether you rhink the mentally retarded can be saved.

>As for intelligence, I think even mentally disabled man can find salvation in Christ

Sure, some, but if there were no innate cognitive limits to the acceptance of Christ, then arguably salvation could be extended to any animal.

Ultimately, it cheapens salvation to reduce your full commitment to Christ to something that even a severaly mentally retarded person could grasp. Is that cold? Idk, is thinking humans are "better" than animals cold? Is thinking intelligence and compassion are "good" cold? Yes, but they are rooted in the reality that God apparently created. When Christ says "he who has ears, let him ear", to me that implies not only that many will not be saved, but that salvation is associated with the ability to understand the symbolism of the parables as they are laid out. Apparently the use of parables is meant to be a cognitive filter.

>>838249

These are just arbitrary words. Wherever you draw the arbitrary line of "race" or "species" or "ethnicity" or "Man", most animals will be rejected. The question is where God draws the line between those who are mentally capable of recieving his covenant and those who are not. We know that there are some relatively intelligent animals, even ones that have a sense of compassion and justice, even ones that are genetically close to humans, but God does not define them as "Man".

Forget about race for now. What about the severely mentally retarded? If you think that such a person can be saved, then the question of race is completely irrelevant for now.

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fa4a5a  No.838881

>>835350

>>835308

>>835419

>>835431

>>835487

>>835500

Ethical rules have their place, but are subsumed under the judgement of reason.

The concept of racism is only relevant within the liberal paradigm. The liberal paradigm being that the sovereign nature of each individual is key, and under which hierarchy of any kind is wrong.

We note here that the liberal paradigm is wholly against Christianity in its parts and its totality.

It follows from the liberal concepts of humanity, by way of Cartesian philosophy, that everyone is in possession of equal and identical rights, which itself leads to the concept that all humans are jointly capable of reaching the same level of understanding, and therefore the claim that anyone is incapable of such achievement is false, and is the result of bigotry, or hatred, or ignorance.

To take this further, if you have accepted the concept of the liberal self, then you must justify why liberal individuals form into societies, i.e., Hobbes, Locke, Schmitt, and why society should be comprised of only some of those individuals.

It is within this paradigm that racism is made intelligible.

If you are a liberal and you seek to block liberalism from anyone for any reason, then you are an (x)ist. The logic is inescapable.

If however, you do not exist within this position, then the label of (x)ist is absurb.

One cannot be a Christian and a liberal. And so, one cannot be a Christian and a racist.

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d5b2f7  No.838884

>>838881

Define racism.

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fa4a5a  No.838888

>>838884

What I have written provides the basis for such a definition - If you are a liberal and you seek to block liberalism from anyone for any reason, then you are an (x)ist - but as a corollary to the absurdity of the label of (x)ist, such a definition is itself absurd to a Christian.

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d5b2f7  No.838889

A local parish imported immigrants who displaced the Catholics away so now the church is failing. Racism is rational and necessary for self-preservation of both the race and the church.

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d5b2f7  No.838891

>>838888

So do you condemn discrimination by race or not?

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fa4a5a  No.838893

>>838891

In what sense do you mean discrimination and condemn?

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d5b2f7  No.838931

>>838893

You know what I mean. Would you be against racial segregation?

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fffc50  No.838949

>>838888

If that was the case, then Jesus himself wouldn't have used the parable of the Good Samaritan, a group that had mutual loathing with Jews, in order to illustrate more important abstract character traits. This predates liberalism by millennia. It has nothing to do with it. Yet here you have the Son of God himself, two thousand years ago, telling you to look deeper into people's actions, and that those with similarities (such as the priests and sadducees in this parable) weren't necessarily your brothers. That you can not depend on anyone just because of race, and you can trust your life with others despite racial differences. And not just that, but that Jesus says that we ourselves must "do likewise". That you must that kind of brother to others as well.

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fa4a5a  No.838980

>>838949

Read the Platonic dialogues, the sophists held the same position as the liberals of today.

>The Jews therefore answered, and said to him: Do not we say well that thou art a Samaritan, and hast a devil?

John 8:48

The Parable of the Good Samaritan is often interpreted as an indictment of racism, when it is rather a poem on the mystery of salvation.

>A man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho

Adam, by trusting in himself instead of God, descended from Paradise into this world.

>He fell among robbers

Apart from God, mankind is beset by the bands of demonic powers led by the ruler of the age.

>They stripped him of his raiment

The robe of immortality.

>They departed, leaving him half half dead

He was reduced to the half-life of this earth, being subject to sin and death.

>It happened that a priest…and a Levite came that way, but passed by on the other side.

The people of Israel kept to themselves and did not aid mankind.

>But a certain Samaritan being on his journey, came near him; and seeing him, was moved with compassion. And going up to him, bound up his wounds, pouring in oil and wine

Christ, being not of this world, is the compassionate stranger. He doctors mankind by His teachings (the bandages); He anoints mankind with the Holy Spirit (the oil); He begins our healing with the Eucharist (the wine).

>He set him on his own beast, brought him to an inn and took care of him.

Christ joined mankind to His own human nature, brought him to His Church and continued to minister him as the divine physician.

>When he left on the next day he gave the innkeeper two dinars and said, 'Take care of him'

After His Ascension, Christ entrusted mankind to St. Peter and St. Paul

>'And when I come again I will repay you.

At the Second Coming, Christ will reward the faithful.

>>838931

It depends on the government and culture of each people. As I said before: Ethical rules have their place, but are subsumed under the judgement of reason.

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d5b2f7  No.838982

>>838980

>It depends on the government and culture of each people. As I said before: Ethical rules have their place, but are subsumed under the judgement of reason.

Yes or no: would you make miscegenation illegal?

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c4b138  No.838984

>>838982

>Yes or no: would you make miscegenation illegal?

I wouldn't. that would be like trying to stop the moon. ethnicity is inherently plastic, it naturally changes slowly over long periods of time. If it weren't for miscegenation we never would have interbred with neanderthal and become modern humans.

Miscegenation isn't a problem, forced miscegenation is the problem.

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d5b2f7  No.838985

>>838984

>ethnicity is inherently plastic

That's winnie the pooh gross, dude. Maybe we would be better off if we were pure neanderthals. The Bible speaks of tribes evolving through children of the same parents dividing themselves into new tribes, not by interbreeding with lesser races except in the case of Esau whose descendants are eternal villains throughout the rest of time. God also commands against miscegenation many times in the Bible.

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f2a126  No.838987

>come back to this thread after a while

>/pol/tards still limited to screaming "There are differences!" in an increasingly frantic tone, and accusing everyone who's not into their neo-nazi claptrap of being a SJW.

Never change, guys.

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fce39d  No.838988

>>835687

Pretty sure it's got nothing to do with that at all. The reason why they cheer blacks burning down things is two-fold: You have those schadenfreuding as the companies, the communities, the politicians etc. which have so readily bent backwards for minorities receive their comeuppance. Then, you have the anons who see that the country is so utterly corrupt, so unredeemable, that it really does need to be burned down in order for it to be rebuilt again.

>>838984

>What is genetic distance?

>>838987

At least contribute to the discussion rather than attemping to moral grandstand.

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fa4a5a  No.838992

>>838982

Pope Pius XII, Summi Pontificatus.

Those who enter the Church, whatever be their origin or their speech, must know that they have equal rights as children in the House of the Lord, where the law of Christ and the peace of Christ prevail.

Pope Pius X, Lacrimabili Statu.

Do you, moreover, take care that wheresoever moral instruction is given, in seminaries, in colleges, in convent schools, and more especially in the churches, Christian charity, which holds all men, without distinction of nation or color, as true brethren, shall be continually preached and commended. And this charity must be made manifest not so much by words as by deeds.

Pope Pius XI, Casti Connubii

This attitude of the Church to mixed marriages appears in many of her documents, all of which are summed up in the Code of Canon Law: "Everywhere and with the greatest strictness the Church forbids marriages between baptized persons, one of whom is a Catholic and the other a member of a schismatical or heretical sect; and if there is, add to this, the danger of the falling away of the Catholic party and the perversion of the children, such a marriage is forbidden also by the divine law.

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f2a126  No.838994

>>838988

>At least contribute to the discussion rather than attemping to moral grandstand.

>Exposing this "debate" being merely name calling and ranting "differences!", is replied, like clockwork, with accusations of virtue signaling

What discussion, man?

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72c932  No.839008

>>838992

So is that a no? Absolutely disgusting. You are abhorrent to God. Miscegenation is an affront to scripture AND reason. Allowing gifted men to waste their seed on genetic waste is a horrid crime whose only fitting punishment is hell itself. The mixing of the races is a culture of death and the way of Babylon.

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fa4a5a  No.839009

>>839008

Make reference to scripture and reasoned argument, or acknowledge that your position places you in schism with the Jesus Christ, His Apostles, and His Church; calling any of the sons of Adam genetic waste is counter to the very dictum of the Holy Roman Universal Church.

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72c932  No.839019

>>839009

Your position is so demonically repulsive and so contrary to scripture which is obvious to anyone who's actually read it I'd rather sit back and take pleasure in the fact that your wicked soul is going to hell than engage with you, swine.

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f2a126  No.839043

>>839019

You lost, mate.

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57255b  No.839071

>>839043

No, I didn't. It's obvious to anyone who's actually read scripture that miscegenation is satanic.

NO RACE MIXING

“A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the Lord.”

Deuteronomy 23:2

“Beware of all whoredom, my son, and chiefly take a wife of the seed of thy fathers, and take not a strange woman to wife, which is not of thy father's tribe.”

Tobit 4:12

“For they have taken of their daughters for themselves, and for their sons: so that the holy seed have mingled themselves with the people of those lands: yea, the hand of the princes and rulers hath been chief in this trespass.”

Ezra 9:2

“Now therefore give not your daughters unto their sons, neither take their daughters unto your sons, nor seek their peace or their wealth for ever: that ye may be strong, and eat the good of the land, and leave it for an inheritance to your children for ever.”

Ezra 9:12

“Shall we then hearken unto you to do all this great evil, to transgress against our God in marrying strange wives?”

Nehemiah 13:27

“For if you ever turn away from him and join with the remnant of these nations that survive among you, by intermarrying and intermingling with them, know for certain that the LORD, your God, will no longer dispossess these nations at your approach. Instead they will be a snare and a trap for you, a scourge for your sides and thorns for your eyes, until you perish from this good land which the LORD, your God, has given you.”

‭‭Joshua‬ ‭23:12-13‬ ‭

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e6af3e  No.839077

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>>839009

>Roman

>Universal

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f2a126  No.839082

>>839071

You can furiously type your copy-pasted disjointed collection of bible verses and pretend it's the orthodox interpretation(we've had this discussion with you fags on this board many times, so im not gonna get ensnared into responding to these canned responses, since there's no point), he still owned your ass fair and square by actually making proper argument from top to bottom, not playing semantics that the basic ideas of variouswords don't matter because liberals use them, or whatever.

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24b497  No.839154

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>>839008

>>839071

White women ARE genetic waste. Married a nice Christian Chinese girl. High tier genes and real faith, not virtue signal LARPing and slutting.

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ead143  No.839167

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>>839154

>White women ARE genetic waste

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e6af3e  No.839170

File: 4e779f339cead0b⋯.png (2.7 MB, 1599x6683, 39:163, racepill.png)

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bd4d8b  No.839180

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>>839082

>You can furiously type your copy-pasted disjointed collection of bible verses and pretend it's the orthodox interpretation (we've had this discussion with you fags on this board many times, so im not gonna get ensnared into responding to these canned responses, since there's no point)

Ah, so when the Bible makes statements on race, either explicitly or implicitly, it actually means the inverse of what it actually says. You see, the Biblical account of race actually agrees with post-1960s liberalism. Yes, that means the 50 generations of Christians before that point were wrong (because they would be racist by today's standards) but they simply misunderstood scripture.

Also, adultery, female ordination, abortion, gay marriage, etc, are fine because that's the accepted interpretation of scripture practiced and preached in the church today.

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f2a126  No.839193

>>839180

>Ah, so when the Bible makes statements on race, either explicitly or implicitly

It was about polytheism, you moron.

That's always been the orthodox interpretation(and as a catholic, it's funny you can't provide any patristic analysis of the Bible that supports your retarded exegisis).

But as i said before >>838987, your only defence is screaming "you're a SJW" as loud as possible, which you did, like clockwork, so what else is there to say?

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fa4a5a  No.839199

>>839071

>Deuteronomy 23:2

The generations are counted from Abraham, when Lot also lived, who fathered the Moabites and the Ammonites of their own daughters (Genesis 19:37-38), and it is discovered that, counting Abraham himself, there are ten generations until Solomon, who fathered Boaz, husband second of Ruth. The generations are these: Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Judah, Phares, Esrom, Aram, Amminadab, Nahshon, Salmon. Salmon fathered Boaz (1 Chronicles 1:2), who married Ruth, who was a widow. That is why it is seen that after the tenth generation he left offspring in the Lord's assembly, giving Boaz children. And, were this not true, then it seems that Ruth was admitted against this prohibition.

Tobit 4:12

That marriage is not to be contracted with Gentiles. For in the first Epistle of St. Paul to the Corinthians:

"A woman is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth; but if her husband die, she is at liberty: let her marry to whom she will; only in the Lord." - 1 Corinthians 7:39

Know you not that your bodies are the members of Christ? Shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid. Or know you not, that he who is joined to a harlot, is made one body? For they shall be, saith he, two in one flesh. But he who is joined to the Lord, is one spirit. - 1 Corinthians 6:15-17

And so it cannot be said, heresy though it be, that St. Paul errs on such a point:

And when he was now old, his heart was turned away by women to follow strange gods: and his heart was not perfect with the Lord his God, as was the heart of David his father. - 1 Kings 11:4

Ezra 9:2, Ezra 9:12, Nehemiah 13:27, Joshua‬ ‭23:12-13‬ ‭

It is a grave sin to marry an infidel.

Make no covenant with the men of those countries lest, when they have committed fornication with their gods, and have adored their idols, some one call thee to eat of the things sacrificed. - Exodus 34:15

Neither shalt thou make marriages with them. Thou shalt not give thy daughter to his son, nor take his daughter for thy son: For she will turn away thy son from following me, that he may rather serve strange gods, and the wrath of the Lord will be kindled, and will quickly destroy thee. - Deuteronomy 7:3

Juda hath transgressed, and abomination hath been committed in Israel, and in Jerusalem: for Juda hath profaned the holiness of the Lord, which he loved, and hath married the daughter of a strange god. - Malachias 2:11.

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d54fb9  No.839208

>>839170

>>839167

>dating and marriage statistics

Fornication destroys your narrative. White women are indeed trash.

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e6af3e  No.839211

>>839208

Show us the relative fornication rates then

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7f523d  No.839218

>>839180

This. In the minds of modern Christians the Crusaders and racists of the past thousands of years were wrong and their anomalous failing modern interpretation is correct.

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fa4a5a  No.839219

>>839218

Then they are heretics and are outside the church; for one cannot be a Christian and a liberal.

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7d9be2  No.839278

>>839211

Go find them. You're the sperg who white knights for whores. Everyone that isn't an autist can see with their eyes how much fornication happens. How many men do you know are marrying virgins?

Moron.

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bd4d8b  No.839324

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>>839193

>It was about polytheism, you moron. That's always been the orthodox interpretation (and as a catholic, it's funny you can't provide any patristic analysis of the Bible that supports your retarded exegisis).

Why are you calling others morons when you're too dumb to check who you're replying to? I'm not 57255b and I'm not Catholic.

>But as i said before >>838987, your only defence is screaming "you're a SJW" as loud as possible, which you did, like clockwork, so what else is there to say?

Nobody cares about your attempts to gatekeep or inb4 what others say. Since you're so eager to deflect the claim of being a SJW though can you explain how you disagree with, say, the 1960s civil rights movement?

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fa4a5a  No.839333

>>839180

What makes you leap to accuse us of supporting adultery, female ordination, abortion and the marriage of sodomites? Such accusations are the sophistries of the desperate.

>>839324

Like all successful rebellions, the central power promoted the social low to further its own ends. Such actions promote licence, not liberty, and the process creates an individualising effect that sets the state for ever-greater centralisation. Per Joseph de Maistre in his "Considerations on France":

It seems that all the monsters spawned by the Revolution have worked only for the monarchy. Through them, the luster of victories has won the world’s admiration and has surrounded the name of France with a glory not entirely dimmed by the crimes of the Revolution; through them, the king will return to the throne with all his brilliance and power, perhaps even with an increase in power.”

Imperium in imperio is Satanic.

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f2a126  No.839411

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>>839324

Predicting to a T how full of s— and ad hominem the /pol/tard side is gonna behave isn't gatekeeping, it's exposing a script.

If you get frustrated and feel attacked by the fact that you have to work outside of, or atleast around, mumbling "differences" and shouting the equivalent of "you're a pink haired tumblrina" out of the blue, the problem is with you needing to find some actual arguments, not me.

So far, the posts have been formed around that, or for you and/or your friend's cases(don't really care if you are 2 people or not), screaming "LIBERALS LIBERALS LIBERALS" like a brain damaged Pokemon.

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bd4d8b  No.839448

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>>839411

>Predicting to a T how full of s— and ad hominem the /pol/tard side is gonna behave isn't gatekeeping, it's exposing a script.

The irony, of course, is your posts are full of bile and ad hominem. This is typical agitprop tactics: accuse others of what you yourself are doing. Simply compare your record (>>835421 >>837717 >>837870 >>837871 >>838084 >>838290 >>838987 >>838994 >>839043 >>839082 >>839193) to mine (>>835360 >>837554 >>837706 >>837865) to see where the ad hominem is coming from.

>So far, the posts have been formed around that, or for you and/or your friend's cases(don't really care if you are 2 people or not), screaming "LIBERALS LIBERALS LIBERALS"

Attempting to inb4 other people calling you a shrieking s—lib, so you can write snarky posts about your predictions coming true, doesn't change anything. As you've made the thread about yourself it follows that we're going to debate your position. My prediction is you can't be honest about your beliefs because what you believe is at odds with the historical church.

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4f8f82  No.839452

>>839448

>all this retarded whataboutism

Hello, comrade.

How's life in the USSR?

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ad4d07  No.839462

>>837537

>Take blacks, for example. When left on their own they form violent, primitive societies.

While I mostly agree with the rest of your post, I have to disagree with this statement. The kingdom of Ethiopia has many accomplishments that I think are comparable to other civilizations. For instance The Churches of King Lalibela. If you look into the history of Ethiopia, I think you'll find that it was more orderly than the tribal way of life the rest of Africa clung to. Surely Africans are less orderly than Europeans, but they are not completely incapable of building orderly societies. But this phenomenon only existed in Ethiopia, a region dominated (to this day) by Christianity which I think was the determining factor.

>The culture of a nation is the results of the genetic capacities of the people.

Culture and genetics are certainly related but they are not completely contingent on each other. The cultural attitude in Europe has changed drastically over the past few decades, yet the gene pool has only undergone significant change in the past few years due to the purposefully genocidal migrant crisis.

>>837640

>>but there in your land because of the sins of your ancestors

You know, this statement isn't exactly wrong. If the white race hadn't abandoned God's teachings they wouldn't be destroying themselves with secularist trash ideologies like multiculturalism.

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d54fb9  No.839478

File: f5c548f1193593d⋯.png (188.17 KB, 846x569, 846:569, asian_women_virgin.png)

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>>839211

https://deepstrength.wordpress.com/2017/04/06/doom-and-gloom-and-the-amount-of-attractive-christian-virgins-part-3/

>In conclusion, there are approximately 545,241 Christian women in the US aged 18-29 who regularly attend Church, aren't overweight or obese, are virgins at marriage, and are currently single. This is approximately 2.15% of the 18-29 total women population (545,241 / 25,332,752). In the US total population it is .17% (545,241 / 320,090,000).

>Asian American females have on average 120% fewer sexual partners than white roasties

http://paa2008.princeton.edu/papers/81662

<page 17

>Over 70% of Asian American females are virgins by the time they turn 18 compared to less than 40% for white roasties

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3064497/

More statistics:

https://archive.is/iknTm

https://archive.is/WaAcz

https://archive.is/bl7XT

https://archive.is/aUU5U

https://archive.is/lfoFN

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db219.pdf

https://archive.ph/US5PV

https://archive.is/Omaav

https://archive.ph/JSM3n

https://archive.ph/xN3M2

https://archive.is/vzWlr

https://archive.is/Qe9Pu

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eaef24  No.839481

>>835308

worshipping tigger subhumans is inherently idolatry and degenerate

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d54fb9  No.839482

File: 9d2642fc4c16569⋯.jpg (248.16 KB, 1760x750, 176:75, trends_with_marriage.jpg)

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>>839478

This has all been posted on /pol/ a lot recently. The most anyone usually does there is character assassination to obfuscate and cover up the facts. If all else fails, they post voting patterns, but we all know women shouldn't be allowed to vote, so the issue is irrelevant, especially considering a dutiful Christian wife submits and votes the way her husband commands.

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eac5c5  No.839485

>>839482

Asian women are for Asian men.

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768b86  No.839486

>tfw no qt Japanese Orthodox gf

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fa4a5a  No.839493

>>839478

>>839482

Such facts apropos nothing prove nothing regarding a race qua race. For given the historical trends you yourself provide, the cause must not be racial but socio-cultural. That is, the forceful changes to society and the disregard for cultural rites have caused these destructrive trends.

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d54fb9  No.839497

>>839493

The facts I provide are for Western born Asians. It is in fact racial, not cultural. Same as IQ and cranial capacity. Culture is formed FROM race. Culture is genetic.

For the emphasis of this thread, when a tigger acts like a tigger, he is acting according to his race, not some culture he was given or deceived into accepting. A culture that an outside/alien race adopts is enforced by the dominant race, by threat of death or punishment. It is not a natural occurrence.

https://voxday.blogspot.com/2020/06/inquiry-from-black-conservative.html

>Genetics will always overcome culture over time because genetics cannot be educated or easily altered and remain virtually identical from generation to generation. This is why the so-called "destruction of the Black family" so beloved of conservatives is actually an observable disproof of the false conservative perspective on race since the cause of this "destruction" is not the Great Society or the welfare state, it is simply a people returning to their preferred cultural model now that they are no longer being forced, by the constant threat of racial violence, to live according to the oppressive culture norms of their enslavers. Africa wins again.

The rest of the above link is a good read.

Selecting from the data that was provided in the images and links, white men and Asian women have the highest IQs and cranial capacity, respective of their sex. From that we can expect and predict that they will act accordingly with regard to morality and civilization, and not surprisingly be matched to be together in relationships.

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fa4a5a  No.839499

>>839497

If culture is genetic then how does culture form? How does it begin? What is the first hierarchy that forms, and is it particular to each race or universal? If someone is mixed race then do they have a culture of their own, is it a mix of their races' cultures, or does one culture dominate? Why is it that the peoples of South America converted to the Christian culture of the Spaniards, and remained culturally Christian?

Such questions are unanswerable from the delirium of race.

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fa4a5a  No.839500

>>839499

A necessary addendum: I am not claiming, as per the liberal position, that all humans are jointly capable of reaching the same level of understanding or ability. Such a position is wholly contradictory to Christianity.

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d54fb9  No.839502

>>839499

>If culture is genetic then how does culture form? How does it begin?

I like the ideas Vox Day put forth. It seems reasonable to me and also logically consistent with the Bible.

A family is formed. The family is dominant over other families and expands to form tribes/clans. The tribes form a nation with cousin tribes and whatnot. The culture that started distinct with family is the culture that the nation then inherits. This would follow consistent with the family of Abraham, and later nation of the Israelites. I would assume a race is just a larger classification that is formed or identified from cousin nations. The sons of Noah and event of the Tower of Babel goes more into that.

Genesis 10:5

>By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations.

11:8-9

>So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city.

>Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the LORD did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.

As noted in Acts, God formed the nations from Adam and set their boundaries and times. Nations rise and nations fall. New nations spring up at different points in history.

17:26-27

>And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;

>That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us:

>For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.

As to the mixing of races, I'm not sure. Either they form a distinct nation unto themselves, according to the will of God, or they subsume back into the dominant nation/race over time. Becoming a distinct nation would mean distinct culture according to the genetics. And even if they were subsumed, the greater nation would inherit peculiarities from those genes that were taken on. For this reason, it was logical to have a "one drop rule" that once existed in America. tigger genes and behaviors were not wanted.

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fa4a5a  No.839503

>>839502

'A family is formed' is passing over its creation; for a family is a hierarchical structure where the father or the mother is its head. You are passing over the phenomenon of the submission of the family members.

The same phenomenon is passed over in the dominance of one family over another: why do the other families submit?

To say that, 'the culture that started distinct with family is the culture that the nation then inherits' is not to answer the question of the origin of culture.

And to say that, 'the greater nation would inherit peculiarities from those genes' is to contradict your prior position where the dominant family enforces its culture on its subjects.

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d54fb9  No.839504

>>839503

It's not passing over anything. I was broadly explaining the idea. I don't believe in evolution, or in other words that one kind of creature became another kind. Also, you're asking autistic questions. Put two and two together. This is easy to understand. What happens in the Bible? Use it as an example for the rest of the world.

>to contradict your prior position where the dominant family enforces its culture on its subjects

I'm not contradicting anything. Those genes would express themselves within the region they were absorbed. Things would play out according to what the nation at large felt like. Either those people would be allowed to be a "local culture" or they would be wiped out. Both have happened in history.

>origin of culture

That's a question for God. I don't have that answer. I'm going to assume you're not married or otherwise young. When you form a family, you will also form a distinct culture that only your family knows. If you step back from your life and notice it, it's interesting. It's also not something you actually control. It's genetic. You're unique.

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fa4a5a  No.839505

>>839504

A fallacious anthropology undergirds your assumptions, an anthropology based on liberal concepts of human interaction.

Go, and read my post here, >>838881, you are applying this thinking within races.

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af0224  No.839507

>>839505

You are a blatant liberal and you're fooling no one by claiming you oppose them. You walk, talk, and quack like a liberal. As the Bible says: You shall know them by their fruits.

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d42f1c  No.839524

>>839497

> Culture is formed FROM race. Culture is genetic.

That's retarded.

Read up on national and regional stereotypes and culture over time(pretty short periods, too).

US North and South went from religion-obsessed puritans vs godless thugs to liberal atheists vs Bible lovers well known from their hospitality.

Middle Easteners went from decadent, sex obsessed efeminates to sexually repressed head-choppers that will likely murder and/or outbreed us all.

Western Europe did the same thing in reverse, in the eyes of the Middle East.

Germanics went from being chaste, bloodthristy savages to civilized, progressive, "sexually liberated" weirdos.

Germany went from chill beer and sausage dumbasses to "MUH EMOTIONLESS GERMANIC EFFICIENCY"

Asians had their own 19th century stereotypes, completely different to today.

Japan was stereotyped as the place where you bought all sorts of low-quality crap(with the accompanying stereotypes) to an overworked, socially ossified weird society obsessed with making mathematically efficient stuff.

etc., etc.

Culture isn't genetic, it's purely memetics, and what social circumstances the people have to react to.

And it's not even some culture that was imposed to them on pain of death, or some such.

It can be everything from the miltiarist Prussia getting the upper hand when Germany got formed, to some young nation basing their identity on gathering up some simplified image of whatever they coud find lying around, Saudi Oil money funding fundamentalism across the Islamic World, and South Asian workers bringing that stuff back home, to something as simple as Hollywood making up the festive Latina imagine to sell movies there.

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ad4d07  No.839634

>>839482

How will white "women" ever compete?

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d54fb9  No.839735

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>>839524

No. It's literally genetic, lad. No debate.

https://voxday.blogspot.com/2014/05/geno-cultural-eucivicism.html

>It has long been suggested that China's reliance on rice fostered collectivist attitudes, and the Confucian emphasis on group allegiance and conformity. Such attitudes are even cited as explaining why Europe, rather than China, was the home of the industrial revolution: the revolution was based on scientific thinking, which is held to rely on individualism and openness to innovation. But the idea that growing rice promotes a group mentality remained speculation.

>Nevertheless, they found many differences in cognitive style. For instance, students from all-wheat areas were 56 per cent more likely to think analytically than students from all-rice areas. For example, when asked to match the two closest of sheep, dog and grass, they grouped sheep and dog, which appear most similar. Students from rice-growing areas grouped sheep and grass, as these have the closest relationship to each other in real life, and to them this relationship mattered more than physical resemblance.

https://voxday.blogspot.com/2014/05/genetic-segregation.html

>Genetic science has already exploded most of the equalitarian mantras. We are not all the same under the skin. Race is not a social construct. Race is not only skin-deep. The content of your character can, on average, be estimated by, if not necessarily the color of your skin, the sum total of your superficial features. Human evolution did not stop at some point in the distant past. Civilization is not magically bestowed by geographic location. Education is not the answer.

>The reason even professional biologists are afraid to discuss the current scientific evidence coming out of the genetic laboratories is because it leads to one inescapable conclusion: all of the social policies based upon the idea of basic human equality are doomed to failure. And worse, when combined with other evidence from other disciplines, it leads to a second conclusion: most of the social policies designed to improve the lot of the so-called disadvantaged are not merely doomed to failure, but are intrinsically dyscivic in nature and are more likely to drag the genetically advantaged populations down into semi-barbarism than to help the genetically disadvantaged populations become fully civilized on average.

>>839634

They don't, in any category, especially Christian.

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e73a59  No.839754

File: 4f4bd6758b92013⋯.jpg (295.13 KB, 1600x900, 16:9, 0_sBtMr5zL_MIKDhBb.jpg)

Convince me to not hate black people.

In the recent month, I've only seen them use the death of one of their own to commit atrocities against my country and people, destroying history and statues. And this isn't even the first time. I've seen my nation's leaders prop them up as a golden calf.

I myself am having trouble seeing them as humans. Despite being 13% of the population, they are responsible for 50% of the crime. I understand I'm supposed to view all people as equals in the eyes of God but blacks especially I view as lowly beings.

I can forgive them I guess, but I'm always going to be hesitant about trusting blacks. Too damn barbaric of a species.

Is it okay if I view blacks as overall lesser beings but still immortal souls that should find God as any man?

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e6af3e  No.839755

>>839754

They're image bearers

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fa4a5a  No.839761

>>839754

Successful rebellion is always, without exception, a mere tool of someone already in a position of power. Whig/Liberal rubbish on this point flows freely, with an ever-ready pool of anti-establishment liberals with an obscenely delusional conception of anthropology that always seeks new ways to rebel. Now, most of these amount to nothing, but on occasion some rebel movement becomes of some value to someone in power, at which point it gains traction and the history afterwards is written as if it was a force of nature bubbling up from below.

We might call this process: The Iron Law of Rebellions as Tools.

To demonstrate this Iron Law, it is worthwhile picking any serious rebellious movement for liberty, and then having a look at exactly where the movement received funding, and who supported it.

For our purposes, we will consider the Reformation. And to examine this, we will consider three examples of leadership in this revolution: John Wycliffe, Jan Hus and Martin Luther.

John Wycliffe was indisputably sponsored by John of Gaunt - the selfsame John of Gaunt that was Duke of Lancaster, one of the richest men in England, and the dominant political force following the senility and death of his father King Edward III and the death of his elder brother Edward the Black Prince whilst King Richard II was a minor. Per Rev. J. E. Healey, S.J.:

>John of Gaunt and John Wyclif

“That Gaunt, openly and publicly, even defiantly, supported Wyclif clearly indicates that there was some connection between the two men – call it an alliance, for lack of a better word.”

And further:

“By the process of elimination we arrive at politics as the basis of the alliance. There are three points of Wyclif’s doctrine that might be thought to appeal to Gaunt: 1. the withdrawal of clerics from secular offices; 2. the disendowment and seizure of church property; 3. the dignity and supremacy of a king. Of these I consider the third as most likely to have appealed to Gaunt; however, I must state that this view has not been advanced by historians to my knowledge.”

Rev. Healey, having issue with the fact that John of Gaunt did not appropriate church property rejects these first two points, whilst acknowledging:

“The duke, one feels, was prepared to use Wyclif as a threat to his clerical opponents; a political tactic one can readily understand.”

Regardless, the implication is the elite joining the rebel against the structures of society. Successful rebellion is pro-power rebellion by default, as Rev. Healey notes:

“According to Wyclif, the king is the father and leader of his people; and all, clergy and laity, must obey him in matters temporal and in any conflict of the temporal and the spiritual. His power is from God; and to God alone is he accountable. This divine origin of kingly power could not fail to appeal to John of Gaunt.”

The basis of the rapid success of protestantism was its rebellion against the middle of society and its support of power. This procession was obviously set about with vigour by the reign of Henry VIII, but the groundwork had already been laid.

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fa4a5a  No.839762

>>839761

Jan Hus was sponsored by Zbyněk Zajíc of Hazmburk, military advisor to the Bohemian King Wenceslaus IV. Hus also had strong connections with the King's Court and, through Queen Anne, to Wycliffe. Hus was very much influenced by Wycliffe's opinion on the pre-eminence of the secular authority. Hus' rebellion was supported when it was useful, and then shutdown when its use had ceased; the Hussite rebellion which followed was itself used by the general Jan Žižka.

Mediated by Georg Burkhardt, Martin Luther was sponsored by Frederick III, Elector of Saxony. Frederick III protected Luther following the Diet of Worms because, like Wycliffe and Hus, Luther advocated for the secular right of kings.

Protestantism was clearly a sponsored rebellion - as are all successful rebellions.

This Iron Law of Rebellions as Tools has application to current socio-political issues. The central power promotes the rebellion to further its own ends. The wisdom of this is secondary to the immediate incentive of power in a faulty system which contains the delusion of Imperium in Imperio. It is a design error, and it is a grave and unforgivable error to ascribe such an error the trapping of a mystical act of destiny. Such actions promote licence, not liberty, and the process creates an individualising effect that sets the state for greater centralisation as noted by De Maistre:

>Considerations on France

“It seems that all the monsters spawned by the Revolution have worked only for the monarchy. Through them, the luster of victories has won the world’s admiration and has surrounded the name of France with a glory not entirely dimmed by the crimes of the Revolution; through them, the king will return to the throne with all his brilliance and power, perhaps even with an increase in power.”

American blacks are merely the latest in a monotonous sequence of rebellions for the strengthening of the central power.

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f2a126  No.839765

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>>839762

To add to cathbro's point, that's like hating the french because they did the Revolution, or East Euros, Asians and latinos for having commie takeovers(as a sidenote, even today, it seems Beijing commies are inflaming the spirits)

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95380f  No.839766

>>839754

>Convince me to not hate black people.

That would be an immoral thing to do because it could put you in grave danger.

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2fae2e  No.840174

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

cognitive dissonance

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79b242  No.840180

Why do you think alt right is automatically racist?

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706fd1  No.840852

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>>835308

I mean you really can't. It's one thing being prudent and avoiding places in town that are known to be dangerous and otherwise being careful not to trust people until they prove they are trustworthy. That's what any responsible Christian should do (same thing goes for the large immigration "debate", which shouldn't be a debate really. Don't trust someone and put your community at risk just because they are in need. Help them as Christ would but don't blindly trust people. You wouldn't do that for a homeless person who is likely to have a drug problem). It's another thing to actively hate people just based on the color of their skin, which is in direct violation of the Great Commandment. We are to love all of God's children as we do ourselves because if we love God with all our might and all of our soul, then there's no room for hatred for his any of His children.

>>835360

>Tfw no trad Catholic Latina gf

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c7f3e1  No.841024

>How do alt right Christians reconcile their political and religious beliefs? Christianity is inherently multicultural.

They can't. The overwhelming majority of clergy of any denomination condemns racism/ethnic nationalism. Most Christians are people that the alt right would consider subhuman

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ffb295  No.841406

>>841024

Christianity says nothing of racism. You're a communist and need to Winnie the Pooh off.

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abdcc0  No.841414

>>841406

>You're a commie/SJW!

Every time.

You sure showed the guy.

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d54fb9  No.841435

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>>841414

Trotsky invented the term "racism," so he is correct. Yours is a soy post.

The tigger rights movement in the 60s was concluded to be a communist attempt to undermine America, which is and always was known as an Anglo nation. Segregation was the best hope for peace among tiggers and America, other than deporting tiggers. Now, the future is war, unavoidable deadly war the likes we haven't seen for a century.

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ae67f9  No.841479

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>>841435

>Trotsky invented the term "racism," so he is correct.

Incorrect.

Besides, they just used racial hate and racialist, instead of racism before.

>Yours is a soy post.

Yes, yes, i'm a pink-haired tumblrina SJW.

Tell that claptrap to someone else.

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ead143  No.841498

>>841479

>Besides, they just used racial hate and racialist

Which as your picture demonstrates were not synonymous in spite of being inappropriately crushed together in the word "racism". Could you please define "racism" if it's such a bad thing? Would the desire to deport racial minorities from one's country be "racist"?

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deb41b  No.841500

>>835308

“Multi-cultural” is not synonymous with race. That said, ethno-statists don’t reconcile it because they have a poor understanding of their faith.

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5a737b  No.841505

>>841500

>ethno-statists don’t reconcile it because they have a poor understanding of their faith.

Never before have I seen more obvious projection. The Bible says to segregate and not mix. Liberal Christians don't know this because they don't read it.

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ae67f9  No.841506

>>841505

Lol, its the fag with the "youre a liberal!" response to everything, and the cringy copypasta.

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5a737b  No.841507

>>841506

You're thinking of someone else, and committing an ad hominem fallacy anyway even if I were him. You're also probably either a woman or an actual fag since you resort to social shaming over logic and reason.

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e6af3e  No.841510

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>>841500

>ethno-statists don’t reconcile it because they have a poor understanding of their faith.

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6e62ee  No.841539

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It's the mystery schools and secret societies (which contain whites) who believe themselves to be gods, so it's not all jews. If you got rid of the jews and put whites in power there would still be whites in secret societies and mystery schools subverting the world like Aleister Crowley. I'm not saying the Jews aren't their own group but they're just one group amid many.

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51b8c7  No.841577

>>841479

>>841506

>t. liberal kike

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51b8c7  No.841593

>>841506

You know what, kike shill. I'm glad you use shaming techniques. Any cuck weak enough to cave to peer pressure deserves to have disgusting brown tigger children.

(USER WAS BANNED FOR DEPRECIATING HIS FELLOW MAN)
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ae67f9  No.841627

>>841498

Now you are just fiddling over the definition of one example i mentioned off-hand, saying it's kinda different, and doing a poor example of begging the question.

C'mon, man.

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ae67f9  No.841628

>>841577

>>841593

Lmao, made you break, and start foaming at the mouth for calling you out.

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74178a  No.841630

>>841539

This is quite interesting got more info?

I mean if jews don't run it then who does?

Satan?

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f8fcc0  No.841634

>>841628

It's honorable to be mad at evil. Get winnie the poohed, kike.

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f8fcc0  No.841638

>>841628

And also you're the one who got called out for being an obviously filthy racemixing kike so you're just projecting like (((your kind))) always do.

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ae67f9  No.841646

>>841634

>>841638

If the best you can come up with is "you're a joo!!!", no wonder no one takes you seriously.

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f8fcc0  No.841655

>>841646

Suck it, kike. I have the balls to call you out and will do so.

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2226cc  No.841658

>>841505

Okay, please tell me how Christ was so concerned about racial purity.

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2226cc  No.841659

>>841510

>literally has no argument

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ae67f9  No.841662

>>841655

Oh, dude…i mean, goy, you got me.

I got sent on a super secret s—posting mission by the JIDF, but nothing escapes your eagle-eyed gaze.

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f8fcc0  No.841665

>>841662

You are a kike. Even if you aren't an ethnic one (but you probably are) you still shill their agenda so you are a kike in spirit.

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8f5947  No.841670

>>835314

Boom.

That is the exact line of reasoning that I have used to establish why Christians should not race mix.

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600286  No.841672

>>841670

You have to demonstrate to me the kind of mental gymnastics required to get from

>honor thy mother and thy father

to

>don’t race mix

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f8fcc0  No.841677

>>841670

There are verses that explicitly say don't miscegenate.

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f8fcc0  No.841678

>>841672

You can derive this from the story of Esau in the Bible who brought shame upon his parents by miscegenating.

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0f304a  No.841681

>>841678

Provide verses.

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f8fcc0  No.841683

>>841681

>34 And Esau was forty years old when he took to wife Judith the daughter of Beeri the Hittite, and Bashemath the daughter of Elon the Hittite:

>35 Which were a grief of mind unto Isaac and to Rebekah.

-Genesis 26

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ae67f9  No.841684

>>841665

You're a winnie the pooh moron, and the fact that your response to being called out for your only argument being calling people commies/SJWs is…calling people jews, show how pathetic and empty your rhetoric is.

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ae67f9  No.841687

>>841677

>>841678

>>841683

Given you are catholic, i once again ask for a patristic basis for your scriptural interpretations.

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f8fcc0  No.841691

>>841687

St. Thomas Aquinas called too much outbreeding and I quote "a snare leading to damnation" which is why he supported only banning inbreeding up to the first cousin. God in the Bible uses similar language, calling breeding with other tribes a "snare."

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d46d8e  No.841699

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>>841630

The richest people in the world, some are Jews and some aren't, but they're all satanic and are subverting the world.

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e895ab  No.841700

>>841683

In that story, and in Israelite history, the purpose behind keeping to their own was due to the pagan beliefs of the people around them. God knew that intermarriage with pagan cultures would result in a mass falling away from Him, which is why it was viewed negatively. In Esau’s case, this was also true. It wasn’t because of some stupid racial purity that they were attempting to uphold or whatever nonsense you are trying to justify. If you have better verses to support this, I suggest you share them.

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74178a  No.841701

>>841699

Interesting I may give it a read.

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d46d8e  No.841703

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>>841701

Here is the pdf.

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f8fcc0  No.841715

>>841700

>“Beware of all whoredom, my son, and chiefly take a wife of the seed of thy fathers, and take not a strange woman to wife, which is not of thy father's tribe.”

Tobit 4:12

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f8fcc0  No.841716

>>841700

>“And, behold, one of the children of Israel came and brought unto his brethren a Mid´i-anitish woman in the sight of Moses, and in the sight of all the congregation of the children of Israel, who were weeping before the door of the tabernacle of the congregation. And when Phin´ehas, the son of Ele-a´zar, the son of Aaron the priest, saw it, he rose up from among the congregation, and took a javelin in his hand; and he went after the man of Israel into the tent, and thrust both of them through, the man of Israel, and the woman through her belly. So the plague was stayed from the children of Israel. And those that died in the plague were twenty and four thousand. And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying, Phin´ehas, the son of Ele-a´zar, the son of Aaron the priest, hath turned my wrath away from the children of Israel, while he was zealous for my sake among them, that I consumed not the children of Israel in my jealousy. Wherefore say, Behold, I give unto him my covenant of peace: and he shall have it, and his seed after him, even the covenant of an everlasting priesthood; because he was zealous for his God, and made an atonement for the children of Israel.”

Numbers 25:6-13

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ae67f9  No.841721

>>841691

I didn't ask for an off-hand remark regarding consanguinity, i asked for a patristic source regarding those verses being interpreted that way.

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8d35c9  No.841730

>>841716

>>841721

Pagan tribes. And Tobit is not canon.

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e895ab  No.841743

>>841715

If you finished that verse, you will see that it goes back to what I was talking about, with not marrying outgroups because of their lack of faith in God:

>for we are the children of the prophets, Noe, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob: remember, my son, that our fathers from the beginning, even that they all married wives of their own kindred, and were blessed in their children, and their seed shall inherit the land.

He doesn’t mention anything about racial purity, only that he should take a wife within Israel/Judah because they will most-likely honor the covenant between God and Abraham.

>>841716

> Numbers 25:6-13

And the same is the case here. Also, you haven’t explained how you read, “Honor thy mother and thy father,” as, “Preserve racial purity.”

And finally, see if you can pull a New Testament passage to support your position.

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9fb16b  No.841773

>>841743

He says of their own kindred and earlier in the verse of your father's seed not of your father's religion. You're putting your own idea into the text that's not there. It explicitly speaks of tribal ethnicity not religion. The Orthodox study Bible is more honest than you and admits it's about racial purity.

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9fb16b  No.841774

>>841743

And here's a verse that explicitly debunks your eisegesis. Even if a mutt wants to join the religion God refuses to allow the mutt to join his congregation.

>“A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the Lord.”

Deuteronomy 23:2

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e6af3e  No.841779

>>841774

You're the one committing eisegesis here bro

A bastard is not a mongrel

"Entering the congregation" in context is not joining the religion, and especially not the same today in the new covenant

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8d35c9  No.841782

>>841774

Heresy and blasphemy. All men are saved through Christ. Enough with your Old Testament masturbation. As was said by many people, different races meant different religions in that time. Same as LARPagans want it to be again. Stop trying to be like them.

I am white and hate tiggers, but that doesn't change the fact they shall be saved by Christ, nor would I want to deny them that. Your biological origin has no bearing on salvation. All were created by God.

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154e99  No.841783

>>841773

>for we are the children of the prophets, Noe, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob

>for we are the children of the prophets, Noe, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob

The only reason why this would ever be brought up by an Israelite is to reference keeping God’s covenant with Abraham. You are trying to turn it into a call to racial purity, which it isn’t.

>>841774

>Deuteronomy 23:2

This verse is not about marrying outside of Israel. And even more comical is the fact that if you read the preceding chapters, you’d have found this bit:

> Det. 21:10When you go to war against your enemies and the LORD your God delivers them into your hand and you take them captive, 11if you see a beautiful woman among them, and you desire her and want to take her as your wife, 12then you shall bring her into your house. She must shave her head, trim her nails, 13and put aside the clothing of her captivity. After she has lived in your house a full month and mourned her father and mother, you may have relations with her and be her husband, and she shall be your wife. 14And if you are not pleased with her, you are to let her go wherever she wishes. But you must not sell her for money or treat her as a slave, since you have dishonored her.

So, it’s pretty clear that marrying outside of Israel is not forbidden if this was allowed.

ALSO, I’m still waiting for

A. How “honor thy father and thy mother” means “preserve your racial purity”

and

B. New Testament verses condemning/forbidding interracial marriages.

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916ec4  No.841802

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>>835308

>Christianity is inherently multicultural

"Multiculturalism" falls under the purview of the political realm. Christianity is a religion. Christianity doesn't advocate for any specific political system in the earthly realm. It merely advocates that the earthly realm has political systems to maintain order.

That order is then defined by God. And how does He define it? Acts 17:26

>and He made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined their appointed times and the boundaries of their habitation,

Therefore it is God's revealed will that each people have a habitational boundary. A homeland. That said, the fourteen words held in common among white nationalists are:

>We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children

I.E. securing a homeland, as is the right of every people to attain. Presently all white countries are being flooded with other nations in an attempt to displace and eventually destroy us. To support that activity is an anti-Christian activity and, in my opinion, is to support genocide of Europeans. White genocide.

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9fb16b  No.841820

>>841802

Well there's that NT verse the kike was whining for. High quality post. You should post more around here.

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ae67f9  No.841834

>>841802

Except "whites" isn't a nation.

And how does this even square with the Ancient world, where you had huge, incredibly diverse empires bludgeoning each other all the time?

Even the verse in Acts is written at a time when the Holy Land was under Roman rule.

1488-tier memes would be the Zealots thing, not Jesus's.

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1dcf42  No.841857

>>841802

>Acts 17:26

Why do you all insist on trying to leave out context to support your position?

> 24The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by human hands. 25 And he is not served by human hands, as if he needed anything. Rather, he himself gives everyone life and breath and everything else. 26 From one man he made all the nations, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he marked out their appointed times in history and the boundaries of their lands. 27 God did this so that they would seek him and perhaps reach out for him and find him, though he is not far from any one of us.

Paul was speaking to the thinkers of Athens about the fact that God is the logos they’ve been looking for and that he has authored our history down to where and when we are. Nothing here is mentioned about racial purity or interracial marriage.

>>841820

Just because you haven’t been able to counter my posts doesn’t mean you should resort to hateful name calling. Instead of getting mad, git gud.

You guys should just drop the act and become ethno-pagans already. Your obsession with race is clearly more important ant than the Kingdom of God.

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030d9e  No.841860

>>841857

Calling you a kike when you're acting like a kike isn't getting mad. You should expect it if you're going to behave like a kike on an imageboard. You don't counter anything. You just say "ackshually dis means dis not dat" when the verses literally say breed with the seed of your ancestors or God appointed your borders. If you're going to flagrantly deny what's right under your nose you're not making an argument. You're just being delusional.

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530399  No.841862

>>841860

The closest you got to giving evidence to your claims was Tobit 4:12, but given the fact that not only is interracial marriage NOT outlawed in the covenant of Abraham, but there are many instances of non-Israelites integrating into the nation of Israel (and non-Israelites even being found in Jesus’ lineage in Matthew). So on the contrary, you and your 1488 friend have been spinning these verses to mean what they don’t say. and ignoring everything that says the contrary. So I will say again, go be a pagan instead of trying to racialize Christianity. For as much as you hate jews, you seem fond of their propensity for turning everything into a racial battleground.

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949ecb  No.841863

>>841860

>>841862

And one more thing, if I haven’t actually provides a sound counter argument other than “well, ackshully,” then reply with some fire that shows me I’m wrong. You and your buddy come in here and drop single contextless verses (which is the kind of dumb s— gaytheists do) and then get mad when someone like me actually shows the context and demonstrate through actual knowledge of the faith why you’re wrong? This is laughable.

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8d35c9  No.841876

>>841860

See

>>839502

Already had this discussion. Read the thread.

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