c49aed No.833463
i was anti-theist until I learned from Jordan Peterson that the narratives can be taken as moralistic lessons
I've been trying to learn more and talk to more religious people as a result
But the community feels a little unwelcoming unless I conform to beliefs that don't really make much sense with modern science
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4609f1 No.833466
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c49aed No.833468
>>833466
kinda proves my point
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731565 No.833470
No one cares if Christianity doesn't fit with modern science.
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c49aed No.833484
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e23d1d No.833485
The question is: why would you attempt learn from a narrative made by Jews?
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731565 No.833486
>>833484
Because if Christ is not actually God, then he would be a demented schizophrenic. The teaching you like does not hold itself if it is not true with a genuine Resurrection of the Dead.
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c49aed No.833487
>>833486
how does it not hold itself?
and maybe he is a demented schizophrenic, but looking at it as a narrative can still teach you things, right?
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731565 No.833489
>>833487
If a child learns geography in a wrong manner, can we still say she learned something?
What I'm trying to say is that actually believe in the Resurrection of the Dead. I do not mean this as a symbol to some Anglo idea of a subconscious but as a real-mystical reality. Christians believe Christ divided Death from Life and trampled Death, no matter if science says it is impossible to do so. Certainly we cannot describe what a Life without Death, life eternal, could be but this is inherent to language. Language makes sense in a form of life, in a new life there shall be a new language.
We do not know where we are going, for Abraham is our father (Hebrews 11:8).
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266c7f No.833504
>>833463
>the narratives can be taken as moralistic lessons
Normies do this so therefore it's wrong. It's Greek logic lessons transformed into myths to rebel against Greek paganism. Greek gods miscegenated, fornicated, and committed bestiality a lot. The Christian God hates all of that. To this day, Christianity is the weaponization of ideas the majority hates. Jesus is Logos in a world that worships pathos. Christianity hates fags in a world that empowers them. Christianity calls those who don't take care of their own worse than infidels in a world where racism is seen as a sin. If you're not hated by normies you're probably going to hell.
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2987bc No.833815
>>833463
It all depends on what you're talking about. If you mean Genesis, then a lot of the things there CAN be taken as some sort of myth. Some Christians don't, but some do, too.
If you want to call yourself a Christian, though, you absolutely cannot compromise on Christ's deity and resurrection. The Christian religion contains the kind of myth you're talking about, but it also believes that there is a literal (not just spiritual) truth to the story of Jesus Christ. Read Mere Christianity, there's a section in it on "true myth."
>And if Christ has not been raised, then our preaching is in vain and your faith is in vain.
<Saint Paul, 1 Corinthians 15:14
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f033a8 No.833908
Don't come here asking that. Ask your church father.
People here are larpers or schizo's. None of their opinions add value to your search for God.
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422753 No.833913
>>833463
What does not make sense with modern science? That the world was created in 7 days or so-and-so (billion) years? That a man rose from the dead? It is certainly true that they did not agree with science of the time either. Since when did a rational man believe that, by natural processes, a man could rise from the dead (not as a corpse, rotting, or as a skeleton, or even as a man put in medea's pot)? No man can believe, not even then, on scientific grounds that a man, without even some mild operation, could raise himself to life after bleeding out, suffocating, and being trapped in tomb without food or water for three days. And yet, people say that it happened! A lot of people, actually. Christ appeared to at least 40 people, but some say as many as 500. Twelve were willing to die for that belief, and these were the twelve which had spent 3 years with Him. They would recognize a forgery. If a person claimed they saw something incredible, wouldn't reason to make that claim dry up at the point of death?
Now, if you are willing to believe that, believing in a good God who can make the world in any timeframe He pleases becomes rather reasonable. We do not base our claims and our faith on scientific laws, but historic ones. If such a well supported claim said that Christ did not exist, or that plato once turned himself into a frog, I would have to believe them. But all historical evidence points to the Resurrection.
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1b57dd No.833958
Christianity requires only one leap of faith: That Jesus Christ was the Son of God, born of a virgin, performes miracles, resurrected, and will return to judge us.
Everything else can be interpreted symbolicly.
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0e0f92 No.833964
>>833463
>unless I conform to beliefs that don't really make much sense with modern science
When you say "make sense" within the paradigm of science can you explain what you mean? Sense to me means something is logically coherent, yet logic is outside the remit of empiricism because it doesn't physically exist.
We can talk about religion if you want, but I'm guessing this is the actual sticking point.
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