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8ac6f2  No.833095

So assuming theistic evolution is true of the world, where do Adam and Eve fit in timeline wise? At least within the last 10,000 years? Or maybe tens or hundreds of thousands of years? Potentially millions? And if Adam and Eve existed alongside other Humans (Cain's wife????) then how would that make sense soteriologically and anthropologically? Did the other humans have souls? So… Were they also originally immortal? Wouldn't that imply multiple Adams and Eves? How would original sin spread if this is not the case though? It is unorthodox to speculate it could be a "collective sin" of some kind, I think everyone agrees it has to be ancestral in nature, if not, then how would Christ's death at the cross cover all of mankind? Shouldn't it then only cover a select few special families of people??????? Now evolution theory does admit that there was a single pair of humans we all come from and that eventually all lines interbreed, but this happened numerous times. But then what of Cain's wife or Seth's wife? It seems that evolution theory doesn't logically make sense within the Biblical worldview… Or can it? Somehow?

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2b8d50  No.833096

Matthew 19:4

>And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female

Romans 5:12

>Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned

Romans 3:4

>Let God be true, and every man a liar

John 3:12

>If I have told you earthly things and you do not believe, how will you believe if I tell you heavenly things?

What do you gain from trusting men over God? How exactly do you benefit from believing in evolution? Don’t you know that you must believe in it through faith, as with all things? Why not have faith in God’s word instead?

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8ac6f2  No.833097

>>833096

I do believe in Christ through faith

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25dd64  No.833099

>>833095

Language is inherent to a form of life. Since there was a hypostatic change in the world, we cannot speak clearly how it was before the Fall or how it shall be in New Creation.

Genesis is to teach us how we ought to treat our fall, not explain it.

Evolution is pseudo-scientific mythology, of course it doesn't fit with anything else.

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68bb95  No.833100

So, we won't be able to answer every question on this side of Heaven. Some mysteries exist and some will remain until we cross over and see God in Heaven. That being said, a lot of people discount evolution and that's a silly thing to do. The Bible says, "come, let us reason." How do you reason if God created the universe 6,000 years ago, but all evidence points to it being older? You don't. God does want us to reason. And towards that end, we should reason to understand the world around us. Given that, we can conclude evolution does exist, at least to some extent, because we it on the microscale. But what of macroevolution? I do think there's something to it. God created the first organism, said "That's good," then used its blueprints for the next one and kept creating and branching off more and more. That's why animals have similar DNA despite apparent differences.

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25dd64  No.833102

>>833100

Death bringing forth life is a concept one can reject ethically.

Further, evolution was invented before DNA was discovered, and the fact DNA did not disprove evolution shows it's grasping at straws.

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2b8d50  No.833104

>>833100

Or… organisms share similar DNA because they have similar structures, and they have similar structures because they have similar purposes. Common DNA makes sense under creationism. It’s not a proof of evolution, but it does follow if evolution is true.

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e83b4f  No.833107

>>833095

If we recall that God is in control, we realize that the whole science and assumptions of genetics relies on the idea that the genome of the child is derived from the parents by pure chance. But is it?

I'd say, any assumption that implicitly posits that anything occurs by pure chance and happenstance, deserves to be questioned under the Biblical worldview.

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61624a  No.833117

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even scientists are starting to doubt evolution

now is a bad time to jump on the evolution bandwagon

although that shouldnt even be necessary, you should place your trust in God not in man

scientists have constantly misinterpreted nature throughout history and they still do today

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7a03bb  No.833118

>>833117

>even scientists are starting to doubt evolution

Consensus isn't how science is done.

Since the evolution hypothesis fits past data and makes useful predictions, it is a scientific hypothesis. It cannot be tested even in many human lifetimes, so it is not a theory.

Catholics don't reject science. The Big Bang, for example, was discovered by a Catholic Priest. Only those with weak faith deny science as conflicting with the Bible.

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6941c0  No.833123

>>833118

Consensus aside, it doesn't have much going for it otherwise either. It has yet to prove that one species can become an entirely new species. It extrapolates from what amounts to the same data we already knew about breeding (such as passing on traits about fur, size, health factors, etc.) and tries to extend that to explain the origin of all species in general. It can only point out smaller scientific truths to paint a bigger picture. This a huge leap. There's no reason scientists adopt it other than an aesthetic preference (i.e. preferring the "beauty" of this system over God).

"I was just following the evidence!" There is none for the amount that this extravagant theory proposes. Nobody gets out of this that easy.

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aeae99  No.833124

Adam was the first civilised man, and like everything else in this universe evolution only happens through the shaping hands of God.

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