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0cf053  No.832494

today i have seen this on a spanish ib

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/30/politics/donald-trump-ufo-videos-response/index.html

and i wonder..are UFO's real? and if they were that mean that we were wrong all time?

NGL i am scared

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e47af6  No.832495

doesn’t have anything to do with Christianity. If aliens are real, so what? You haven’t thought it through. The lack of substance in your post proves this.

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0cf053  No.832496

>>832495

If they are real, does it not mean that the gospels were wrong and God created other races on other planets?

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e47af6  No.832497

>>832496

the gospels never say that God didnt create aliens

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0cf053  No.832498

>>832497

if God created aliens then please explain me how that would not destroy our entire religion

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e47af6  No.832499

>>832498

why are you asking me to prove a negative? I don’t see where you’re reasoning from. First you should explain why you think the existence of aliens would invalidate Christianity

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a5a945  No.832520

>>832494

It's not extra terrestrial and this was already released and confirmed. The pentagram is only confirming it to distract people from their covid19 command and staff operation.

>>832498

Where in the Bible does it say God only created life on this planet?

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a5a945  No.832526

File: 00eed35c72fb372⋯.jpg (19.5 KB, 200x292, 50:73, 1460_virgin_and_midsummers….jpg)

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Rome believes in UFOs though.

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4e6197  No.832534

>>832496

The idea of an advanced alien species is the idea of demons in the flesh. That is all there is to it.

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8c4442  No.832584

>>832534

That is what it eventually reduces to but I like to be more verbose.

Think of it this way: For thousands of years humanity has had occasional interactions with beings of clearly superior intelligence. They claimed to be gods, angels, dead relatives, etc. They were renowned for being fickle and degenerate and dealing with them tended to have bad consequences. They were compulsive liars. Christians knew them as "demons".

All of a sudden, belief in such entities is supposed to be "backwards" and "superstitious". And then we introduce these new entities called "aliens" which interact with people in all of the same ways. These are not superstitions because they're not claiming to be from the "heavens"which is a backwards conceptthey say they're from "space" and that's SCIENCE.

In the drinking game version, down the bottle every time an alien is supposed to be an "energy being" or "ascended" beyond matter/to a higher plane, which is not in any way the same thing as being a "spirit".

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503871  No.832597

>>832497

>14 And God said, “Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night. And let them be for signs and for seasons,[f] and for days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the expanse of the heavens to give light upon the earth.” And it was so. 16 And God made the two great lights—the greater light to rule the day and the lesser light to rule the night—and the stars. 17 And God set them in the expanse of the heavens to give light on the earth, 18 to rule over the day and over the night, and to separate the light from the darkness. And God saw that it was good.

The stars are only an exceptionally beautiful natural clock and calendar. They were not made to support life, only Earth was made for life.

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45cdbc  No.832602

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I think the UFO's are just secret airplanes, or as someone said, a distraction.

>>832498

>if God created aliens then please explain me how that would not destroy our entire religion

This isn't the first time we've speculated about non-human sapient life.

In antiquity and middle ages we had tomes that debated the same thing, but for stuff like the fair folk+other folkloric beings, or for antichthones, cynocephalii or other weird humans rumored to exist at the edges of the world.

We kinda said "eh, idk, if they are descendent from humans somehow, they are the same thing.

If not, if they are sapient, it likely means they have the Image of God in them, so evangelism ahoy.

If not, maybe they are innocent of the Fall?

Dunno, man, i guess we will ask them, if we meet such beings".

In the end, we didn't(or we found out they are simply boring old humans, except browner), but yeah, aliens are just the same thing, but in outer space.

Besides, St. Christopher being considered a cynocephalus by many in the Middle Ages, due to a translation mistake, and people not caring that much about it, means we are pretty cool with odd looking beings getting saved.

In fact, in my country, in many parts of it we actually had a supposed race of humanoids living on the other side of the world, and they were considered to be super-fervent christians, fasting and praying a lot.

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37f8a7  No.833253

>>832497

Aliens would look very much like us if they were real.

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4e6197  No.833257

>>832602

Cynocephaly is an euphemism for cannibal peoples, though.

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45cdbc  No.833289

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>>833257

Sometimes.

Sometimes they believed it to be literal.

But even so, you can replace dog-headed people with other cryptid humans, and the point still stands.

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eed0c2  No.833291

They're demons. Just remember, the Nephilim existed and presented themselves one way and now demons are back presenting themselves another way.

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cc8fc8  No.833315

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UFO means it isn't identified, is flying, and an object.

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37f8a7  No.833320

>>833291

It could be either anon if aliens do potentially exist by any means there is also that potential they could be humans if God had made aliens it would make sense he would make them in his image.

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db2634  No.833355

To answer OP direct, UFOs are real, as in, there are real sitings of objects flying that people have not been able to identify, per >>833315

This is not to say conclusively they're of an extraterrestrial origin, however.

The fact that they are real, but not necessarily of an extra terrestrial origin, therefore has no implication on the truth of the gospel.

If they are of extraterrestrial origin, however, and from the same plane of existence as us (as in, they're not demons or other spiritual beings) I would be inclined to think that this would have enormous implications, or at least throw up serious questions, about the gospel:

Presumably they would have fallen like we did and therefore be required to be subject to a plan of redemption - presumably the incarnation, passion and the cross that occured here on Earth 2000 years ago would not apply to them given God incarnated as a man, and not as one of these alien beings. Even if these Alien beings were merely extra terrestrial humans, the bible and the redemptive history therein only ever refers to our world as the efficacious setting, so they would not be subject to the power of the cross here.

I saw the articles re: the video clips you linked a few days ago, and I am of the opinion that their release represents what the kooks (no disrespect meant) on yt refer to as 'predictive programming,' i.e. casually giving small and minor tidbits of information to disseminate publically to get the masses used to and subconciously anticipate a particular idea or concept that will be introduced at a later time to effect substantial and radical change at some point in the future.

The idea or concept or event that will be introduced that these released clips form a part of the building up to is what is known as 'disclosure' - the disclosure of a first full blown public revelation of extra terrestrial 'life' who will come in peace to tell us they're our creators - yes, all that ancient aliens/prometheus bs.

Think about it - is not the official release of these tapes absolutely huge, and very strange, and yet has gone pretty quietly under the radar? I don't hang out in the kookier parts of the internet much or watch too much yt nonsense so many might have been frothing at the mouth over this but missed it, but to me it seems an extremely strange occurance for the US military to release these clips, and then secondly for no one to seemingly care about it much.

I guess everyone is too distracted with covid or maybe everyone is just disinterested and apathetic in general these days? Nonetheless, the quietness of what I perceive to be such a hugely strange thing is telling of a 'predictive programming' element. Note: I'm not necessarily saying it is the US military or any other earthly actor conspiring to building up to disclosure with drip feeding these clips: they may be conspiring from the inside and have access to and control of knowledge and secrets that we don't and they're consciously enacting a plan to use that knowledge and those secrets including with predictive programming with a view to building up to disclosure or on the other hand they may literally be as clueless as the rest of us and released them in genuine ignorance and seeking to provide honest clarity over what they have captured on film and what limited information they know about the UFO. But with everything there is always a spiritual dimension and actors behind everything so there is no question at the very least this stuff will be being orchestrated behind the scenes by the principalities, the powers, the rulers of the darkness of this world that Paul mentions.

Which brings me to the next and most important point: If these UFOs are extra terrestrial, you can bet they're not natural but rather supernatural, specially full blown demonic entities, as other anons have alluded to in their answers already in this thread. Again I don't watch too much kooky youtube, but if we're approaching some of the key aspects of the end times, then I've seen a few grass roots home stew films made by Christians that make a very convincing case for how future events may unfold in the future given the current trajectory, including AI, transhumanism, the beast system, the New Age/gnostic/kabala/eastern heresies and demonic interjection and yes, a massive, formal 'disclosure to the entire planet of our 'ancestors' (demons posing as our alien creators) with the view to creating a NWO. All of the films are at least a couple of hours long and are a bit shoddy but very much worth a watch, I can get the links if you're interestested.

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7184c6  No.833776

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>>833355

yes pls

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5a3902  No.833785

One of three possibilities:

<Experimental black ops aircraft that the government is lying about.

<Project Bluebeam

<Demonic/fallen angel apparition

Aliens do not exist. Humanity is a significant creation of God, of whom His son died to save, and humans are not one of many intelligent yet unremarkable species. Resist the lie.

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b71f54  No.833873

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>833776

Ok so one of the films I was thinking of I actually re-watched this week out of curiosity, and it's got nothing to do with UFOs. That one is called Aquarius: Age of Evil and is quite old and shoddy (it looks like its 240p on yt) and I think primarily was made as a response to stuff contained in the film Zeitgeist which came out a few years before. It goes into theosophy, a little bit of the free masons and the new age. It is 2 and a half hours long and didn't think it was particularly good on a re-watch.

The actual ones that I would recommend I haven't rewatched in a while but am going to soon, maybe the first one this weekend. They are a lot broader (cover theosophy, new age, freemasons, other elements of the occult, transhumanism, AI and UFOs and Gen 6 Nephilim etc. etc.) but still seems to go a little bit deeper and are called Age of Deceit. It's made by Gonz, uploaded to yt under his FaceLikeTheSun channel and there are three of them.

They're all v long but definitely worth watching, still obviously a home made yt kinda production but still a lot better a slicker than Aquarius: Age of Evil. The last one going pretty deep into some of the symbolism in Revelation which I'm not yet properly aquainted with so haven't paid as much attention to that.

https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=wjmFm8PIz8M

https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=gfRzUI8hkwo

https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=Wj_uGWhKFOc

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565679  No.833925

Ancient history and the Watchers and Nephilim and conspiracy theories are fun and all but a little infamous, rousing to the passions I think. I don't really care but after all the things I've seen over the years I am certainly not gonna worry about it now that the winnie the pooh government is putting this in our face, you know?

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acbe57  No.833927

>>832602

This

If aliens are encountered, they either

a) need evangelism

b) are innocent or

c) are already Christian.

C.S. Lewis talked about this once, I think it was in "Miracles". And I mean he wrote a whole fiction series based on it (the space trilogy). Very good, highly recommend

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