520624 No.831903
Why would you use anything other than the KJV? All other "versions" are demonic. The KJV Bible alone is inspired, it alone preserves the word of Almighty God.
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7a8c9a No.831905
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f515be No.831907
>>831903
if i had to use one translation it'd be the KJV for its literary quality, not for any pretence to accuracy.
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b027e0 No.831909
So the Greek and Hebrew is demonic? That's interesting.
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6b68ce No.831911
>>831903
Because not everyone is an baptist burger with an autistic obsession for a translation that sounded old-timey even when it was written.
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0712c8 No.831913
>>831909
That line of reasoning sounds like the logic of the medieval church elitists who sought to maintain their monopoly on scripture and effectively serve as gatekeepers.
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66ee1f No.831918
>>831909
I think what he said was other "versions" meaning versions that actually differ.
If you look at the title page it says "translated out of the original tongues" so clearly it is meant to match those original languages.
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fca8a0 No.831920
>>831911
Imagine being so convicted about the fact that the people you thought were spiritual authorities use a watered down modern version that you have to come onto a website just to mischaracterize and misrepresent those that reveal this in order to alleviate that. I've seen people with that sinking realization before and some are prone to lashing out.
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96ba34 No.831924
>>831920
Mate, this dispute is not even relevant to me.
Your absolute autism surrounding the KJVonly crowd is simply idiotic from the outside.
But please, give me some long-winded speech about im deluded, and you are the last guardian of the truthfulness of the Word of God and all that claptrap.
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e7e4e0 No.831931
>520624 (1)
I known folks who say what Op said in real life, that the King James version is the only true Bible.
I mentioned this in the other thread on Bible versions, and was told that folks like Op don't exist.
Given Op has only 1 post in his own thread, maybe it's just ironic trolling.
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520624 No.831932
>>831911
Then why even call yourself Christian? If you are using the demonic versions and believe in them you aren't even Christian. A lot of those "versions" were even approved by the Roman Catholic Church, the most pagan religion on Earth next to Hinduism.
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844f32 No.831934
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40621c No.831938
What about the 90% of humanity that doesn't speak English
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28468d No.831939
>>831934
We can suppose that he's just stimulating discussion
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98f563 No.831943
Imagine thinking the Dhouey Reims isn't the only valid English translation of the Bible lmao couldn't be me
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520624 No.831948
>>831938
They need to learn English or else they won't have the scriptures. Either that or the KJV should be translated into other languages. Also a lot of humanity does speak English, 20%, that means 1 in 5 humans speaks English. English is a God inspired language, I wouldn't be surprised if it was the original language of Adam and Eve.
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7a8c9a No.831949
>>831943
imagine shilling a translation of a translation and having the gall to be condescending about it lol
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f515be No.831951
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7a8c9a No.831953
>>831948
Psa this is OP with a new ID
He deleted the same post under the old ID, check logs
Officially a d&c troll, sage and hide
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c50c31 No.831965
KJV is probably the best English version of the New Testament but it relies on the inferior Masoratic text for the Old Testament, whereas the Septuagint is both older and lines up with the Gospels better.
Also, it's a translation from a Greek manuscript therefor if the KJV is divinely inspired then the Greek manuscript it's derived from would also have to be divinely inspired so it's NOT the only divinely inspired version of The Bible.
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66ee1f No.831967
>>831965
The second and fifth cases (Isaiah 7:14, Psalm 22:16) are simply cases of inaccurate translations. The actual correct Hebrew-to-English translation is found in the KJV in those places. Modern rabbinical perversions of the language don't count.
The first case already lines up with Psalm 40:6 because opening of the ears is already associated with being born in the Bible, see Isaiah 48:8. Also interesting to note that this word for "opened" is the same word used for "pierced" in Psalm 22:16, another verse mentioned before.
In the third reference, there is no reason to suppose Hebrews 1:6 can't be referring to a passage such as Psalm 148:2.
In the last two references, they both involve Isaiah chapter 42. In Luke 4:18, the part of the combined passage which reads “recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,” is derived from Isaiah 42:7. This, namely the combination of Isaiah 61:1-2 and Isaiah 42:7 is even closer to what Luke 4:18-19 reads than the LXX version of Isaiah 61:1, since the LXX also delete the phrase "the opening of the prison to them that are bound" from Isaiah 61:1. This makes it's version of Isaiah 61:1 farther away from the quote than the original language Old Testament, because it doesn't have the phrase "the opening of the prison to them that are bound" whereas the Hebrew does.
The sixth and last reference involves Matthew 12:17-21. The reference really doesn’t make a clear correlation with the LXX at all because there are several intervening phrases before the place where it supposes to say (in Isaiah 42:4): "and in his name shall the Gentiles trust," however, said intervening phrases, He shall not fail nor be discouraged, till he have set judgment in the earth: which are in Isaiah 42:4, are not in Matthew 12:20-21 at all, suggesting the reference ended at Matthew 12:20, and that Matthew 12:21 came from a different part of the book.
Also, in this last reference, the Hexaplar Septuagint happens to change the words of this intervening phrase in an unnecessary way as well, where it writes: "He shall shine out, and shall not be discouraged…"
But we understand that “shining out” and “not failing” are two different things. In fact shining out would appear to be a reference to the "shining one" Lucifer, whereas "not failing" is an attribute of God, who is said to never lie.
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66ee1f No.831968
>>831967
>>831965
I can also add that the Hexaplar Septuagint follows the modern Jewish Bible rendering for the special messianic prophecy in Psalm 2:12, while the KJV and almost every other Bible, based on the original language, translates this passage correctly.
>Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him. - Psalm 2:12 KJV
LXX ver.
<Accept correction, lest at any time the Lord be angry, and ye should perish from the righteous way: whensoever his wrath shall be suddenly kindled, blessed are all they that trust in him.
From this example you see how the LXX removes the prophecy regarding the Son in Psalm 2:12, which matches what the modern Jewish versions say in the process as well.
This passage is of tremendous significance, because it connects the "only begotten Son" mentioned earlier in Psalm 2 (verse 7), with God. It says to trust in "the Son." Yet the LXX removes the Son from Psalm 2:12! Psalm 2:12 is the only time in the Old Testament where the Testament says specifically to trust in the Son, while this is said repeatedly of the Lord and God in thirty-seven other individual Psalms, and elsewhere.
But despite this, the LXX removes the Son from Psalm 2:12 and it parallels the modern Jewish translations.
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c50c31 No.831978
>>831968
>>831967
Regardless, The Septuagint requires fewer stretches and less explanation to line up with the gospels, as testament by your very lengthy post. And as I mentioned, it is also significantly older than the Masoratic.
>But we understand that “shining out” and “not failing” are two different things. In fact shining out would appear to be a reference to the "shining one" Lucifer, whereas "not failing" is an attribute of God, who is said to never lie.
This is absolutely ridiculous. You may as well argue that God and Lucifer are the same being because God is described as The Father of Lights. 1 John 1:5 even states blatantly "God is light and in him is no darkness at all."
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43cf43 No.832015
I'll never understand the ease of which KJV Only people have with slandering other believers in Christ. How does it slip off your tongue so quickly? How do you do it? Do you feel any anxiety at all.. and hesitate? Out of all of the people in the world to "hunger for justice and righteousness about", you turned your heads and this prolonged obsession on to people who are in the service of Christ. You're like fellow servants in the house, beating and berating the other servants for simply doing what the Master commanded them - to deliver his word.
You could have obsessed about war, pedophiles, racists, slavers, rapists, thieves both great and small, the pimp wandering your downtown area, the conmen and exploiters of the old and poor, or the adulterers and destroyers of families..
But no, your obsession became focused on people who want to make God's word known. I find it very peculiar that this angers you, of all of the things you could choose.
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7a8c9a No.832024
>>832015
If you'll read the thread you'll know he's false flagging
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4dbc2e No.832025
>>831903
>Why would you use anything other than the KJV?
For easier readability and better accuracy of the original scriptures.
>All other "versions" are demonic.
No, they're not.
I'm sure there's maybe one or two out there that are bad, but most all of the Bible translations we have available to us in English are good to use.
>The KJV Bible alone is inspired, it alone preserves the word of Almighty God.
It's not alone in preserving the Word of God.
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43cf43 No.832026
>>832024
Yes, my apologies. I caught that later.
In any case, what's this called again? Poe's law? OP sounds accurately like the real thing, so I guess my post has some merit to the actual psychopaths on this board.
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66ee1f No.832033
>>831978
>Regardless, The Septuagint requires fewer stretches and less explanation to line up with the gospels
So you acknowledge that the above points are valid. That's good.
>The Septuagint requires fewer stretches and less explanation to line up with the gospels,
Not really though. Explain why it doesn't have "the opening of the prison to them that are bound" in Isaiah 61:1.
Just because people defending this are too lazy to respond doesn't mean they have done their job. It takes a lot more resources on average to disprove a lie than to spread one.
>as testament by your very lengthy post.
I've written walls of text before and this is not that. If you think that is lengthy you have probably never read anything of substantial length much less written it.
>And as I mentioned, it is also significantly older than the Masoratic.
I don't get the point of this statement. It's still newer than the New Testament, and a translation of the original language therefore not the original itself. Why not go with the originals instead of the ben asher MT or the LXX. We still have the actual originals, preserved as they were from before Christ. Why would you use something that's newer than that?
>You may as well argue that God and Lucifer are the same being because God is described as The Father of Lights.
I just found it interesting they took an attribute that belongs solely to God and transmogrified it into "shining out" which is an attribute of satan, see 2 Corinthians 11:14 and Isaiah 14:12.
>>832015
>But no, your obsession became focused on people who want to make God's word known. I find it very peculiar that this angers you, of all of the things you could choose.
I call out the synagogue of Satan on here all the time. And no, I have no hesitation to do something that may be unpopular because I recognize a higher power than the crowd.
Lastly, I am helping people by telling them the truth. Even if it might not be flattering to their itching ears. As it says, "rebuke a wise man, and he will love thee." I am helping people by telling them the truth about those who are trying to present a corrupted form of God's word in order to discredit it. They are doing the damage to people and a disservice to the one true God by watering down the truth and turning it into something to be taken lightly. And yes I do happen to hold preachers to a higher standard, that's because so does God. False prophets are abusing their positions that they've taken for themselves and should be called out.
That's why for example MLK Jr. is particularly detestable because he did all those vile acts of sodomite perversion and promiscuity while claiming to be "reverend." But that's another discussion.
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f60eed No.832340
>>831948
>I wouldn't be surprised if it was the original language of Adam and Eve.
troll
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788792 No.832699
>>832025
>For easier readability and better accuracy of the original scriptures.
The KJV really isn't hard to read, you're just illiterate. The KJV is the easiest to memorize though.
>No, they're not.
Most of them are though, at least the modern translations and especially if they're copyrighted.
<have to change enough of God's Word to claim it as your own before you can copyright a book, just think about that
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