ac2f10 No.831853
This man was the last true Pope. The institution in Rome right now is not the true Papacy, it is antichrist just as Our Lady predicted.
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c0689c No.831857
The dogma and doctrines of the Church are truth, and the Sacraments are still valid. The worst time to jump ship is during a storm.
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4303d1 No.831860
It's been awful for far longer. I think the Protestants and Orthodox have been trying to tell you this. In fact, these current popes are pleasant in comparison to, say, the Borgias and Medicis who held the office at multiple points.
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65b879 No.831862
>>831857
Meh, there's still a lot of pick and choose within Catholic doctrine so you got Jesuits debating with Franciscans and early Augustine people vs late Augustine people etc. People will always gravitate towards what their genetic nature predisposes them to even without a church. Before I thought my belief in determinism was a recent thing I learned but after listening to my old music today I realized a lot of the lyrics for songs I used to really like were also determinist. All you can do is discover latent parts of your nature. You cannot change it.
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57f9c2 No.831863
>>831853
>This man was the last true Pope.
No.
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d3e4a2 No.831866
>>831853
sedevacantism is a violation against the logic of the papacy and therefore the integrity of catholicism.
this website has many articles to consider:
http://www.trueorfalsepope.com/p/peaceful-and-universal-acceptance-of.html
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38137a No.831871
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0fd37a No.831876
>>831853
True.
>>831857
True.
Define "jump ship" tho. Many Catholics knew Vatican II was a false council, and wouldn't follow it.
>>831860
Utterly wrong and thanks for the cheap shot.
>>831871
Yes, Jewbro, some popes were sinners. Nothing in Catholic dogma says that the Pope will be without sin.
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0fd37a No.831877
>>831866
>sedevacantism is a violation against the logic of the papacy and therefore the integrity of catholicism.
No, it isn't. That doesn't even follow. e.g. the Pope cannot be a heretic is cannon law, and a heretic isn't even catholic, much less the Pope. if you see a Pope with a pagan idol and telling folks about new sins against some nature god, he's not a real pope.
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0fd37a No.831878
Kay.
it's another hate catholics thread.
Got it guys, you say all Catholics are going to hell.
Have a nice day but please allow the discussion to continue.
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38137a No.831879
>>831878
Are you pretending to be victimized for sympathy credit or something? Nobody has said any of that
I've also asked you before to say "canon" not "cannon". Are you the same guy who always post the Louis quote about arguing with a blasphemer by violence?
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d3e4a2 No.831881
>>831877
You're thinking like a Donatist, a function of the Papacy is to reduce private judgement to the minimum otherwise you're just another Protestant with your own interpretation of church fathers, papal encyclicals and canon law tacked on. But you have no business judging who is or is not the pope otherwise you're just Orthodox 2.0.
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bef49c No.831894
>>831881
It is not us who judge the pope, only God can judge him
And Pope Francis with his little idols, these vile statues of a superstitious south american demon visibly pregnant with the antichrist, he will be judged by the Lord as the Lord intends to. And his little statues will prostrate before the Full of Grace.
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0fd37a No.831929
>>831879
>How dare you call me out for having a hate thread.
>How dare you not follow my spelling orders.
sorry.
>>831881
>You have no business questioning a pope who tells you to become a pagan.
1st Commandment > Belief in a Pagan Pope.
>>831894
This really. There's good reason to believe Jorge is not Pope. He's come close to nullifying Church teaching against contraception with his new sins against Gaia. He's spoken out against the Church teaching against sodomy. The Blessed Virgin has come to many and told us to pray against the Great Apostasy that would start at the top of the Church.
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517678 No.831989
Our Lady of La Salette predicted that Rome would become the seat of the antichrist. If I'm not mistaken, The Catholic Church officially recognizes La Salette as a genuine apparition. What is a non-sedevacantist Catholic's response to this?
t. Ortho
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d3e4a2 No.831993
>>831989
rome doesn't = papacy, but, can you give a source? I can only find fringe websites.
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d3e4a2 No.831995
>1st Commandment > Belief in a Pagan Pope.
false dilemma
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517678 No.831996
>>831993
“Rome will lose the faith and become the seat of the Antichrist."
http://www.thepopeinred.com/secret.htm
I don't know if this counts as a fringe website, but it's the only english version I've found. Have you found a version where that line is not in it?
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0fd37a No.831998
>>831995
Well, explain why you think that's a false dilemma fallacy i.e. explain the missing possibility.
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0fd37a No.832002
>>831995
Are you saying the belief in the Pope is a higher law than the First commandment of God Almighty, etched with His Divine finger into Holy Stone and given to Moses on Mount Sinai?
Seriously? This is the Word of God we're talking about here… the Word of God, Jesus Christ Our Lord! The Lord is far greater than any of his Servants, and the Vicar of Christ is a servant of the Lord.
I'm just astounded at this claim that the 10 commandments are not a higher law than the commandment to follow a true Pope, much less one given to heresy against the Holy Mother Church like Pagan idols and inventing new sins against "mother nature".
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d3e4a2 No.832007
>>831998
belief in the pope is not the same as consenting to his every action
>>831996
i'll have to look into it more
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0fd37a No.832008
>>832007
okay, but irrelevant to the discussion of which is the higher law.
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d3e4a2 No.832010
>>832008
besides the point
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0fd37a No.832038
>>832010
I think the problem with our discussion is that you keep changing the subject.
Friday is the day for the red herring sandwich.
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d3e4a2 No.832042
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