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42d41f  No.831219

What do you think about the inquisition, /christian/s? Should Christian nations burn heretics and heathens? Is it our moral duty to combat evil even with systematized persecution?

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a5379d  No.831221

>>831219

>burn heretics and heathens?

we shouldn't kill, but heretics and heathens are potentially murders of the soul if they're allowed to spread their ideology.

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9540a1  No.831222

>>831219

Th spanish inquisition is what happens when you subordinate religious courts to the whims of secular rulers.

The non-spanish one was cool.

Also

>Believing the Black Legend about them being some burn happy 40k style Inquisition-meets-Adeptus Arbites

As a sidenote, as we find out from a missionary priest debating torture with a native american, people were executed beforehand, or in the worst cases, made to die quickly.

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2db9d4  No.831223

File: fe87aa971c12041⋯.png (235.92 KB, 500x260, 25:13, falle_nangel.png)

Our current age has proven that freedom for lies/evil causes too many souls to be lost. We should ship them to Madagascar or something, let those who willingly want Babylon to live in one like God lets those who want Hell to go there. Or like wheat separated from the shaft, fallen angels being set apart, etc.

It is Church teaching to be anti freedom of speach and the like, one is free to honor and serve God. Choosing sin is not liberty but slavery.

Related encyclical:

http://www.vatican.va/content/leo-xiii/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_l-xiii_enc_20061888_libertas.html

The paragraph on freedom of speach:

23. We must now consider briefly liberty of speech, and liberty of the press. It is hardly necessary to say that there can be no such right as this, if it be not used in moderation, and if it pass beyond the bounds and end of all true liberty. For right is a moral power which - as We have before said and must again and again repeat - it is absurd to suppose that nature has accorded indifferently to truth and falsehood, to justice and injustice. Men have a right freely and prudently to propagate throughout the State what things soever are true and honorable, so that as many as possible may possess them; but lying opinions, than which no mental plague is greater, and vices which corrupt the heart and moral life should be diligently repressed by public authority, lest they insidiously work the ruin of the State. The excesses of an unbridled intellect, which unfailingly end in the oppression of the untutored multitude, are no less rightly controlled by the authority of the law than are the injuries inflicted by violence upon the weak. And this all the more surely, because by far the greater part of the community is either absolutely unable, or able only with great difficulty, to escape from illusions and deceitful subtleties, especially such as flatter the passions. If unbridled license of speech and of writing be granted to all, nothing will remain sacred and inviolate; even the highest and truest mandates of natures, justly held to be the common and noblest heritage of the human race, will not be spared. Thus, truth being gradually obscured by darkness, pernicious and manifold error, as too often happens, will easily prevail. Thus, too, license will gain what liberty loses; for liberty will ever be more free and secure in proportion as license is kept in fuller restraint. In regard, however, to all matter of opinion which God leaves to man's free discussion, full liberty of thought and of speech is naturally within the right of everyone; for such liberty never leads men to suppress the truth, but often to discover it and make it known.

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aa82b6  No.831225

Love your enemy, pray for those who persecute you

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3f9600  No.831227

The Roman Catholic Cult has always killed people for not bowing down to the man of sin, the pope, who is known by the number of his name, 666.

https://www.remnantofgod.org/Foxe.htm

It's nothing new and anyone who still thinks the Catholic Church is truly Christian in these last days is possibly beyond saving.

https://www.john1429.org/videosORIG/vaticancommercialunplugged.mp4

Anyone who has eyes to see and ears to hear knows Jesus called people to leave that Babylonian whore of a church, that mother of harlots. Rev 18:1-5

http://www.mystery-babylon.net/

https://www.remnantofgod.org/666.htm

http://www.666numberofthebeast.com/666numberofthebeast.html

>The reason the Bible speaks so negatively about 666 is that it symbolizes the power of the person who has this number to have power over all the other gods, which in the case of the Papacy is their claim to be God and to have authority over God and his law, which are false claims. Because the Popes claim both to be God and to have authority over God, they believe that they can change the law of God to suit their own purposes. This is extremely serious to God and He knows it will also lead many to be lost for all eternity. So the above evidence links 666 with ancient sun worshipping pagan Babylon and the Papacy of the Catholic Church, which is dominated by pagan practices and solar images and referred to as Babylon in the book of Revelation. This is just a small part of the evidence that makes this relationship apparent.

https://www.remnantofgod.org/beastword.htm#priestpower

<"…we find in obedience to the words of his priests - Hoc est Corpus Meum - God Himself descends on the altar, that he comes whenever they call Him; and as often as they call Him, and places Himself in their hands, even though they should be His enemies. And after having come, he remains, entirely at their disposal; they move Him as they please, from one place to another; they may, if they wish, shut Him up in the tabernacle, expose Him on the altar, or carry Him outside the church; they may, if they choose, eat His flesh, and give Him for the food of others. ;Oh how great is their power!" -The Dignity of the priesthood by Liguori p. 26,27

>"All the names which are attributed to Christ in Scripture, implying His supremacy over the church, are also attributed to the Pope." Bellamin, "On the Authority of Councils," book 2, Chapter 17.

<"It is a power greater than that of monarchs and emperors: it is greater than that of saints and angels, greater than that of Seraphim and Cherubim. Indeed it is greater even than the power of the Virgin Mary. For, while the Blessed Virgin was the human agency by which Christ became incarnate a single time, the priest brings Christ down from heaven, and renders Him present on our altar as the eternal Victim for the sins of man - not once but a thousand times! The priest speaks and lo! Christ the Eternal and Omnipotent God, bows His head in humble obedience to the priest's command.

<"The Pope is of great authority and power that he can modify, explain, or interpret even divine laws… The Pope can modify divine law, since his power is not of man, but of God, and he acts as vicegerent of God upon earth." -Lucius Ferraris, Prompta Ribliotheca, "Papa," art. 2, translated.

<"Of course the Catholic Church claims that the change (Saturday Sabbath to Sunday) was her act… And the act is a MARK of her ecclesiastical authority in religious things." H.F. Thomas, Chancellor of Cardinal Gibbons. Nov. 11, 1895

<"Sunday is our MARK or authority. . .the church is above the Bible, and this transference of Sabbath observance is proof of that fact" Catholic Record of London, Ontario Sept 1,1923.

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3f9600  No.831228

The current pope, Francis also took the Jesuit oath

https://www.remnantofgod.org/francis.htm

<I furthermore promise and declare that I will, when opportunity present, make and wage relentless war, secretly or openly, against all heretics, Protestants and Liberals, as I am directed to do, to extirpate and exterminate them from the face of the whole earth; and that I will spare neither age, sex or condition; and that I will hang, waste, boil, flay, strangle and bury alive these infamous heretics, rip up the stomachs and wombs of their women and crush their infants' heads against the walls, in order to annihilate forever their execrable race. That when the same cannot be done openly, I will secretly use the poisoned cup, the strangulating cord, the steel of the poniard or the leaden bullet, regardless of the honor, rank, dignity, or authority of the person or persons, whatever may be their condition in life, either public or private, as I at any time may be directed so to do by any agent of the Pope or Superior of the Brotherhood of the Holy Faith, of the Society of Jesus.

If you read and believe the Bible, you should know what is said about prophecy, violence towards men, and vengeance.

https://www.remnantofgod.org/littlehorn.htm

>Daniel 7:25 "And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time."

>Luke 3:14 "And the soldiers likewise demanded of him, saying, And what shall we do? And he said unto them, Do violence to no man, neither accuse any falsely; and be content with your wages."

>Romans 12:19 "Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord."

About free speech, Rome has always sought to limit it. In the past, Christians spoke of Babylon when referring to Rome so they wouldn't be persecuted.

https://www.remnantofgod.org/freespeech.htm

"…We ought to obey God rather than men." -Acts 5:29.

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1f7088  No.831230

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Be not wise in your own conceits.

Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men.

If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.

Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.

Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good. - Romans ch. 12

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dc4c10  No.831339

>>831228

Reminder not to make eye contact with that guy masturbating at the back of the bus. It will only feed his fantasy and youi'll feel dirtier for it. do not cast your pearls before the swine.

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2db9d4  No.831340

>>831227

loled.

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05e357  No.831347

>>831228

Some folks think to Be a good Christian, you have to tell some really big lies about the Holy Mother Church.

I don't think that's what Christianity is about, and feel sorry for those that do.

My take is that I am not smart enough to figure out the intent of The Lord God Almighty. The Catholic Church is his Church, it was the only Church for well over a thousand years, God told us to follow his teaching and this Church delivered peace and prosperity that we know today.

Just follow it and don't second guess the Lord Christ. Hate sin and repent and beg forgiveness.

if that gets me damned, so be it.

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05e357  No.831352

>>831219

> Should Christian nations burn heretics and heathens?

Church teaching since the Council of Basel in 1431 is that non-Christians are to be kept separate from the faithful.

Gotta admit, if Martin Luther was burned at the start, we'd all be a lot better off today. Protestant Freemasons have Corrupted the Holy Mother Church, and opened the doors of the west not just to jews but to pagans.

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3f9600  No.831368

>>831340

>>831339

>>831347

>Catholic fear.

Jesus will say unto you

>Depart from me, I never knew you

And you will be damned to hell, separated from God for eternity.

It's your choice.

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3f9600  No.831372

>>831347

>if that gets me damned, so be it.

Even by your own admission, you'd rather be right in the eyes of men than right in the eyes of God. You catholics are a weird bunch, like how you always have excuses for rome and deny their own words of blasphemy and their never-ending scandals.

I've even seen a catholic say Christians were warned about wolves in sheep's clothing as a defense for following a wolf in sheep's clothing. It's lunacy.

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05e357  No.831428

>>831372

Thanks for trying to pervert my words, but I think two people should try to understand the others point of view rather than to apply a bucket of the vomit of cognitive bias keep believing the whole thing.

Maybe if I'm so stupid and you can't understand my gibber, and my being one of the most hated Catholics, hatred of Catholics being what is taught in the protestant scripture, you should stop responding to my post.

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05e357  No.831429

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>>831368

How does it advance the conversation to lie about what I said, especially since I said "Some folks think to Be a good Christian, you have to tell some really big lies about the Holy Mother Church"?! I didn't say anything about fear, yet you falsely claim I did.

I don't think any religion that requires that you lie and hate is a religion that was established by Our Lord.

My take is that:

1) We can't understand the Mind of God, and shouldn't try and second guess Almighty God. No way could the people of 2000 years ago understand the social, anthropological and psychological aspects of the Blessed Mother Church. This insight came from the Holy Ghost.

2) Catholicism was blessed by God via the discipline and sacrifice it requires for the common good. It created our civilization.

3) Protestantism, not so much. The basis that any person can take the Bible and then interpret it to mean their own man made ideal is not only counter to scripture, but has failed horrifically e.g. the Once Based Lutheran Church as branched off into the mortal Sin of Sodomy. That's not going to go well with the Almighty. The Holy Ghost is not in these sinful denominations.

>inb4 not my protestant denomination.

Peace! It probably isn't. However the principle tho, is that folks can make it up as they go along and they created false religions.

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5ccf22  No.831443

>>831429

Rome split from the church in 1054

Also counting Mormons as Christian?

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05e357  No.831461

>>831443

>Rome split from the church in 1964

fify

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1f7088  No.831462

>>831461

Some idol worshippers made manifest that they were never part of the church in 313 actually. Nowadays they worship crackers. All we can do is pray for them to get right with God and start by actually reading his word.

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