/christian/ - Christian Discussion and Fellowship

Ultimately it's in God's hands who turns to him and who doesn't. Just make your case calmly and joyfully, the sheep will hear and ponder…the goats prefer to fight and disobey.

It's just the way it is.

>>830549

Sadly true. Although I tend to disagree about being "joyful" about it. I struggle with this immensely.

>>830540

>>830540

in my opinion you can back them into a corner by discussing things in the bible that they dont agree with in general. So if they refuse to believe something that is in the bible for any reason then they havent accepted true belief yet, they are still their own masters of their own brains and lives.

>>830559

I don't see where you find the capacity to stick around long enough to even speak to them. The same people who doubt such things are the same people who fornicate, cheat, idolize degenerate movie stars, and commit abortion or vote for abortion friendly policies.

But again, like I said above, I struggle with finding joyfulness in this process. In fact, they disgust me more than the down-n-out street kid who doesn't have anyone who loved them or heard the Gospel. They're far more receptive and less of a waste of time.

>>830554

We are not limiting ourselves, remember that Jesus himself had many turn away from his words. And he said, the servant is not greater than his lord, therefore this must also be fulfilled, it's for our humility. That's what a faithful witness will need to expect and understand it is not due to any failing of that which we are witnessing. And that's why this is a struggle on a level that we can't see where we are only one necessary part of something beyond any person's control. Therefore just try not to create any obstacles of your own and stay with those that are inclined to hear, is my advice.

You can do your job and it is noticed, no matter how the reaction you see is. Continually order the things in your own life and realize that you can't see the full influence a witness has on others, a single day of going out may create a thousand impressions. You have no way of knowing what might make a lasting impression, that might make the difference in someone's thought process down the line. Something you never even knew on a day that you long ago forgot about. Until the end when everything is revealed.

>>830562

Yes, but Jesus didn't persist in the same places. He never said to keep hanging around the same towns and the same people who already rejected him. In fact, he said to kick the dust off one's feet and to leave such a place and to not throw pearls before swine. You can possibly keep your head down and inject a thing or two, say, if you're working together or something, but you probably shouldn't stick around for too long. Those sorts of places and people are open to being cursed, if not already having been cursed. If you really want to persist, I wish you well, because you'll encounter the demons around them eventually. At a certain point, it stops becoming a mission for souls and just a struggle for your own peace of mind. They may hide it well, but it'll show it's ugly head sooner or later. If you have any bit of discernment, you'll catch a glance.