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ef8191  No.829693

He's right. I was an atheist for a long time when I began studying physics. But now I've finally been studying Quantum Mechanics and and yep, it's pretty clear to me there is a God now. I did start going back to church about a year ago, a colleague of mine actually helped me come back to the faith but I have still have some doubts, now I have pretty much 0. I find that Quantum Mechanics lines up pretty well with Christian philosophy and Aristotelian philosophy.

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e63a96  No.829700

>>829693

What was the moment when it finally clicked fr you? I am not a physics major…or any major for that. But I am curious on what got you to where you are. What is your life journey, anon?

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958c0a  No.829701

I sincerely hope op is an actual student and didn't just read some new age qm bulls—.

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ae06f5  No.829705

>>829693

In grad school I didn't pay the probability theory much thought, or the big bang… then it all clicked: God doesn't play dice with the universe, he rigged the game. The universe is not the clock set in motion of Aquinas; God's fingers guides every sub atomic particle towards His Divine Intentions!

All the parameters for the universe are perfect for life.

Wow.

I don't think the straights (non-physics literate) can appreciate it.

>>829701

>I sincerely hope op is an actual student and didn't just read some new age qm bull

Yeah. BS Physics 1979, MS physics 2009. Somewhere around 1982 is half a PhD that was blocked by a Mormon "Bishop" because I had a Catholic research advisor.

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fa018f  No.829763

>>829693

For the record, that quote is fake.

But he did write a lot on the compatibility of science and religion.

And IIRC, 3 of the 4 "fathers" of QM were openly christian.

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ef8191  No.829793

>>829705

This exactly. The collapse of the wave function is conceptualized as being random, we can't predict it, we can only use probability amplitudes. Rather what I think this shows is that, unlike what classical mechanics would have you believe, determinism isn't true of our universe, but randomness clearly cannot be either, rather it is in the hands of God, he decides everything, include whether an electron will be spin up or spin down irregardless of our probability amplitudes.

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1ac9c0  No.829881

quantum mechanics are pretty important for a simple reason:

they destroyed the notion that time and space are the fundament of our reality

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3f3a02  No.829882

I'd like to agree with you, but wasn't the entire field of quantum mechanics somewhat entirely proven to be based on faulty research and a fluke some time ago? That's harsh maybe but similar to the feathers/dinosaurs thing. The anti-science camp gained a point there, and I think E Micheal Jones is also pretty well-spoken in being anti quantum mechanics

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fa018f  No.829890

>>829882

>I'd like to agree with you, but wasn't the entire field of quantum mechanics somewhat entirely proven to be based on faulty research and a fluke some time ago?

Not that i know.

>E Micheal Jones is also pretty well-spoken in being anti quantum mechanics

Lmao, the only reason he is against it is literally because "muh jewish science".

Not that Jones should be considered an authority on subatomic physics of all things, or pretty much anything outside his crappy rantings.

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e9d98a  No.829948

>>829693

>>829701

>>829882

Look into the work of Wolfgang Smith and the documentary The Principle, made by Robert Sungenis.

Basically, quantum mechanics proves Aristotle, Aquinas, and geocentrism, and Einstein was a hack.

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1ac9c0  No.829964

>>829882

>and I think E Micheal Jones is also pretty well-spoken in being anti quantum mechanics

I believe he is pro-heisenberg

>>829948

>>829948

>quantum mechanics proves Aristotle, Aquinas, and geocentrism

can you elaborate a little

especially in the geocentrism

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ae06f5  No.830012

>>829882

>wasn't the entire field of quantum mechanics somewhat entirely proven to be based on faulty research and a fluke some time ago?

QM is one of the most well tested theories out there.

Where did you hear that QM was faulty?

Real Catholics accept science. Science is the study of God's creation.

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13bf6e  No.832472

lol

no, it doesn't

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