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20d818  No.828446

Is the coronavirus a biblical punishment?

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606cd9  No.828447

>>828446

It would depend on how you see the other 4 Horsemen. Pale is second to last. Then Death. If you think Corona is it, then you'd have to explain what the first rider and War was.

The First Rider is the most confusing of all, imo. Some say it's Christ or the Church. Some say it's the Anti-Christ. Absolute polar opposites!

"I looked, and behold, a white horse, and he who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer."

Arguments for it being "good": It's a white horse, much like Christ shows up later with in Revelation. But later, Christ is armed with a "sword proceeding from his mouth" (the Word), not a bow like this one. Is this good or bad? Some say this is the antichrist, since the "bow" is a distant and sneaky weapon, and the horse is white to only deceive people that it's Christ. Some say it could be a good horse, and the distance of the bow only means the length that the Gospel will extend and conquer the world with.

Until we understand this, then we won't understand who the Red/War rider or the Pale horse is.

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606cd9  No.828448

>>828447

Doh! I should have said Pale is the last horse (Death). I don't know where my mind went.

The rest should be OK. I guess it should be pointed out that for the majority of the church's history - starting with Irenaeus at least - the first horse was usually painted as a "good" figure. It wasn't until American evangelicals in the 19th/20th century came along and turned that on it's head, for some reason.

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82afbd  No.828450

>>828446

Do I have to watch the entire hour long youtube where the guy rambles on like an old man and doesn't get to the point because he likes to hear himself talking?

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a6473d  No.828470

I've been following this for the past week, reading every article and post on from /pnd/ to yt comments to every news article, trying to get a good picture, there are many uncertainties, but believe me, the phrase I've had in my head for the past couple days to help me calm myself, (go figure), is this - billions may die. Italy currently has the highest mortality rate - scared me when I saw it today, it was like 30%, but it's only closed cases from a certain period, not everyone walking around with it, so it's skewed. In short, because of hospital ventilators running out and things, it's pretty certain all 20% of severe cases will be in deep trouble, let's give or take 2% so let's say any wave of the virus gives you an 18% chance of… well then if mortality is 18%, and 40% upon reinfection, and the reinfection rate of all 82% of mild cases is 18%, that means you have a 14% chance of getting reinfected, whereas there might be:

68% mild no reinfection

8.4% reinfection mild (0.82times0.18=14%)

18% severe cases

5.6% reinfection followed by severe case (40%?)

18+5.6=23.6, rounded up to 24, that's 24% severe….

perhaps another 1% for various factors, perhaps 25%

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a6473d  No.828471

https://youtu.be/28WlreDHvA4

How I want you thinking

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a6473d  No.828473

Not mentioned prayer, we need your prayer…

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b991e5  No.828482

>>828446

>Is the coronavirus a biblical punishment?

No, the Tribulation already happened.

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0b7597  No.828503

so this is the redpill; 20% complications will all need hospital treatment, most will need ventilators, which will be taken, hospitals will be down, so that's possibly 20%. Reinfection rate is something like 18%, because the virus mutates, you can't get reinfected unless you're one of the 80% who got off with a mild case so that's 80 times 0.18 which is 14.4%, some of the higher supposed mortality rates are 40%, which is more likely because mild cases do not account for permanent damage UPON recovery, so 40% of that 14.4% can get added to that 20%, so 20 and 7.2 makes 27.2% possible mortality, let's take in account people preparing and actually making it out of recovery and round it down to 25%, which is not taking into accoubt higher reinfection rates or rumours the virus is biphasic, in which case…..(….), but, still, with a projected infection rate of 30% of the planet in the next year, (mainstream media, no less) and 90% before a vaccine may be made available, and all the chaos surroundig the global economy crashing possibly harder than it did in 2008 DURING a pandemic, and everything we've still to learn about this thing, I think it's not entirely unreasonable to say, mortality might go up as high as 25%, there is a chance. There are people saying every case will develop into a severe one because of the weapon-like nature of the virus, but I don't know, I don't think it's as supported. In China, there is what might be called the second wave, and there are videos and leaks showing that there's about 1200 bodies being cremated eveyday, which corresponds with that possible 25% mortality estimate, and with the supposed *real* infection numbers in China. This is going to be world-changing, any way you spin it, and I don't think it's the apocalypse, (depopulation has to have a point; the bioweapon may or may not have even been ready/supposed to get out) but more akin to the black plague, but with global economic chaos….. prep…Pray, pray, pray….

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20d818  No.828722

>>828450

I wouldn’t make fun of him. /x/ been more right than /pol/.

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30e751  No.828728

>>828446

Its a punishment because we didnt evangelize China properly.

“‘These are the birds you are to regard as unclean and not eat because they are unclean: etc,etc,etc and the bat." Leviticus 11:13-19

Those dudes actually needed Leviticus:p.

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b2335f  No.828850

The answer is a definitive no because of revelation 6:11.

>And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

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c0263b  No.829783

>>828850

Bump. I think this has gotten WAY OVERHAND IMO

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