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b3d98c  No.827950

Do you know why Christians are Jewish slaves???

Because you worship a Jewish guy

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c8a6ab  No.827953

File: 445e40222e3bf8c⋯.jpg (213.6 KB, 801x1200, 267:400, NYET!.jpg)

>The name "dennis" came from Dionysus, the Greek god of ecstatic states, particularly those produced by wine

I hope you find sobriety someday.

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639e1b  No.827955

File: 42e3d62e12fe8fd⋯.jpg (178.88 KB, 1280x967, 1280:967, 42e3d62e12fe8fd32c3eeff7dc….jpg)

>>827950

>Because you worship a Jewish guy

Nah. It's just the Creator of the universe wearing a Jew suit. Also Jews hate Him.

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48c99b  No.827958

Jannies, clean up on aisle 666…. again.

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a82135  No.827960

File: 37066764ddb80a2⋯.png (198.89 KB, 1000x1484, 250:371, Israel_defined.png)

>>827950

>Do you know why Christians are Jewish slaves

Christians are the single biggest persecutors of Jews in history, for better or worse

>you worship a Jewish guy

Yes, Christ was born in the tribe of Judah like in the line of David just like prophecy said, but NT Jews and modern Ashkenazi Jews (the ones pulling the strings) are different races and practice different religions. The talmud is newer than the new testament.

If you're just here to bash zionists I think we all agree

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7ff891  No.827978

>>827950

Maccabees says Edomites took over Judea before Jesus came. Jesus is however descended from King David, a non-edomite. If you want proof Edomites not only inhabited but controlled Judea during Jesus time google the ethnicity of King Herod, the king of Judea during Jesus' life.

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26fa6e  No.827989

File: d695f544854eb96⋯.jpg (279.55 KB, 1236x1600, 309:400, rabbit154.jpg)

>>827950

I hate racist

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4b0c58  No.828006

>>827950

I'm interested to hear why an atheist, which like all atheists has no ultimate basis for morality, can claim that anything is bad let alone jews.

<acktually I'm a neopagan-larper

I'm interested to hear why someone practicing their own cherrypicked version of the Christian's description of a religion centered around worshipping humans with superpowers that came from cow saliva mixed with ice can act like his beliefs are more valid than anyone else's, let alone that his savage, fallible gods that are subordinate to the universe can make morality.

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639e1b  No.828007

File: 3b31810ce47c807⋯.jpg (59.39 KB, 539x960, 539:960, 3b31810ce47c807a206bb7906a….jpg)

>>827989

>I hate racist

Seeing as all whites are racist by definition, I'd say that's pretty bigoted of you even by your own standards. Bigot.

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26fa6e  No.828011

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>>828007

>Seeing as all whites are racist

when I said that ? I reply to OP

are you going to say OP is all white ?

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e26aa2  No.828012

File: aafd168366d6b4c⋯.png (183.38 KB, 771x804, 257:268, aaf.png)

>>827950

>Because you worship a Jewish guy

u mad bro?

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10a75a  No.828018

>>827960

>Yes, Christ was born in the tribe of Judah like in the line of David just like prophecy said, but NT Jews and modern Ashkenazi Jews (the ones pulling the strings) are different races and practice different religions.

In that case, who are "da real joos" who are supposed to convert en-masse before the End Times, as foretold in Romans and Church tradition?

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7d53e8  No.828037

>>828018

Does it really matter? Maybe it's the Irish and they already converted. If then so what? That seems like the most inconsequential prophecy to worry about since it concerns no one else but them.

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8ec14b  No.828039

Worship the son of God with us, atheist.

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a7efcf  No.828088

>>828037

>Does it really matter? Maybe it's the Irish and they already converted.

Yes, it matters.

The conversion of the jews is supposed to be some big deal.

If it was some random group of levantine arabs or other meds that don't even know they are jews, it makes no impact.

If they are already christians, it makes no sense.

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36ba8f  No.828090

File: f05e3cb58076594⋯.jpg (16.2 KB, 500x500, 1:1, attention.jpg)

>>828088

These precious dubs died for your post…

>>828018

>In that case, who are "da real joos" who are supposed to convert en-masse before the End Times

That already happened sometime during 66AD. It was a literal 144,000 from the 12 tribes of Israel. There's your remnant that Paul was predicting in Romans 11. Now you know!

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7a02fd  No.828117

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7a02fd  No.828119

>>828117

lmao, the link doesn't show

can the volunteer fix it?

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5e4654  No.828139

>>827950

Go back to bed Varg

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ebf984  No.828149

File: 45cf95b1c8e7b1e⋯.jpg (156.83 KB, 1154x688, 577:344, bible sez jews.jpg)

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e26aa2  No.828162

>>828119

remove en dashes

b-i-t-c-h-u-t-e

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7a02fd  No.828182

>>828162

it's probably because the female dog word

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c1a159  No.828187

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ebf984  No.828234

Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.

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82c014  No.828247

If by Jews you mean Archons, yes.

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e26aa2  No.828264

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965d49  No.828336

>>827950

Nice try, Khazar

Most quotations of the Old Testament match the Samaritan Torah and the Septuagint rather than your Khazar-edited version.

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10a75a  No.828378

>>828090

>That already happened sometime during 66AD. It was a literal 144,000 from the 12 tribes of Israel. There's your remnant that Paul was predicting in Romans 11. Now you know!

That makes no sense.

The completion of that number will herald the Apocalypse.

Also, how was it supposed to be from the 12 tribes during the Bar Kochba revolt, if 10 of the tribes had been missing for 750 years by then?

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ea2201  No.828403

>>828264

Yare yare daze, amen

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191bfb  No.828418

>>828378

>The completion of that number will herald the Apocalypse.

Apocalypse literally means "revelation" in Greek–ἀποκαλύπτω. The Great Tribulation and the battle of Armageddon already took place. Babylon, the great city, was Jerusalem. This is currently the 1000 year reign. The 1000 years was figurative. Jesus is reigning through his people on earth, in case you haven't already noticed how powerful Christianity is and has been for the past few thousand years. What has yet to happen is Satan being released from the abyss and the subsequent White Throne judgment.

>how was it supposed to be from the 12 tribes during the Bar Kochba revolt

I didn't say anything about Bar Coke-head. That would have been almost 70 years later, long after the destruction of Jerusalem and the desecration of the temple and the mount.

>if 10 of the tribes had been missing for 750 years by then?

Because God still knows who's who even if men don't…? The angels were the ones sealing the 144,000, not men.

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191bfb  No.828420

>>828378

>>828418

Followup, forgot to mention something… What do you think Jesus meant when He kept talking about the kingdom of God being "among you?"

Luke 17:20-21

<Now having been questioned by the Pharisees as to when the kingdom of God was coming, He answered them and said, “The kingdom of God is not coming with signs to be observed; nor will they say, ‘Look, here it is!’ or, ‘There it is!’ For behold, the kingdom of God is in your midst.”

A spiritual kingdom for the King of spirits. And yet somehow, still physical because we are His temple. But not like the kingdoms of the earth. Earthly kings have knelt and sworn allegience to the King of Kings.

Did Jesus not say this in Matthew 12:28?

<if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.

Well he was obviously casting out demons by the Spirit of God, so it thus follows that the kingdom of God had arrived… Because where the Spirit of God is, there is God's kingdom. And we know exactly where the Spirit is.

Mark 1:15, after the arrest of John the Baptist (Elijah), Jesus was preaching

<“The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel.”

Mark 9, Jesus said

<“Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the kingdom of God after it has come with power.”

WELL IT DID. That was Pentecost, when the Holy Spirit formally inhabited the hearts of the followers of Jesus and began to demonstrate their authority to the Jews with signs and miracles.

Luke 8:1, Jesus was specifically preaching

<Soon afterwards, He began going around from one city and village to another, proclaiming and preaching the kingdom of God.

See where I'm coming from now? The kingdom is already here and it has authority. This isn't some afterthought or rationalization, this is what Jesus was trying to explain all along to the boneheaded Jews who were expecting the Messiah to usher in a Jewish version of the Roman empire. The kingdoms of the earth have, by spiritual means, become the possessions of Jesus, and He's going to chill out up on the throne until the Father has made all of His enemies a footstool for His King.

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3c114b  No.828569

>>828418

Ah, so you're a partial preterist.

I see.

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35ab5b  No.828589

>>828569

>you're a partial preterist.

Correct.

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f7afab  No.828726

One of my biggest fears is the cucked parts of the gospels are actually what Jesus said and he was just a gnostic retard, meaning Augustine and Aquinas with their logic and sanity are closer to God than Jesus ever was.

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e26aa2  No.828727

>>828726

>cucked parts of the gospel

>catholic

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ceae9e  No.828776

>>828018

>as foretold in Romans and Church tradition?

If you're talking about Romans 11:25-26, this verse isn't about some kind of magical mass conversion.

<Romans 11:26

And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

>shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob

This is the part where all nonbelievers in the word of God (see for example Mark 7:7-13, John 12:37-40, 2 Thess. 2:10-12, etc.) have been removed from Israel.

Only after that shall Israel be saved. And guess whose opinion matters on who constitutes Israel? God. If he considers you in, you're in.

And it's according to his word as this poster already explain. >>827960

Read Galatians 4.

>>828088

>The conversion of the jews is supposed to be some big deal.

This is a fabrication by zionist dispensationalism, which was started by J. N. Darby and popularized by C. I. Scofield. Zionism itself originated with the rabbi of Karl Marx, a guy named Moses Hess. Today the (lost) world thinks exclusively in their terms. But you can bet dollars to donuts that they're wrong.

>>828378

>Also, how was it supposed to be from the 12 tribes during the Bar Kochba revolt, if 10 of the tribes had been missing for 750 years by then?

The 144,000 are supposed to be sent to earth while the judgments of God are being poured out on the earth, yet they will be immune to the judgments (book of Revelation 9:4). This is at the same timeframe as the two witnesses in chapter 11. We know the two witnesses are going to be prophets from the former Old Testament times (book of Revelation 11:4, Zechariah 4:14).

So then since they are together with the two witnesses, and they were sealed in chapter 7 and sent to earth in chapter 9, it makes sense that the 144,000 are resurrected saints who lived in Old Testament Israel times, being sent back to Earth to prophesy against the whole world, just like the two witnesses do, hence why we know what tribes they lived in. They'd probably do a pretty good job.

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ceae9e  No.828777

>>828418

>Because God still knows who's who even if men don't…?

Nah, this is what all the talmudist zionists say. See above explanation. We're talking about specific resurrected men who lived in Old Testament times being sealed and sent back to earth as a witness against it. They will be on the side of the two witnesses, from whom fire proceeds out of their mouths.

>>828420

>Earthly kings have knelt and sworn allegience to the King of Kings.

Yes, a lot of people have. Now all that's left is for him to take control. "Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power." If you truly think he is here running the nations of earth right now I'm not sure what to think about you.

>Well he was obviously casting out demons by the Spirit of God, so it thus follows that the kingdom of God had arrived…

This contradicts where you said later that it arrived at pentecost. Well which is it?

>Mark 9:1, Jesus said

<“Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the kingdom of God after it has come with power.”

>WELL IT DID. That was Pentecost, when the Holy Spirit formally inhabited the hearts of the followers of Jesus and began to demonstrate their authority to the Jews with signs and miracles.

Mark 9:1 is referring to the transfiguration when Jesus appeared on the mount with Moses and Elias in Mark 9:2-7. Also why are you using the NASB and not the Authorized Version of the Bible (KJV)? You realize the NASB removes entire verses and sentences and changes many other things around?

>See where I'm coming from now? The kingdom is already here and it has authority.

Ok then why does Jesus say this:

<Acts 1:6-8

When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?

And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.

But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

>He's going to chill out up on the throne until the Father has made all of His enemies a footstool for His King.

Actually He's going to be at the right hand of the Father in the meantime, and, "then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power." (1 Cor. 15:24)

He shall put down all authority and power at "the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God." And according to the verse before this (1 Cor. 15:23), this is after his second coming.

And you can't deny this unless you deny the physical resurrection of the body like the Sadducees did. Because the second coming is when those who are in Christ will rise just like he already literally has.

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a7efcf  No.828798

>>828776

>This is a fabrication by zionist dispensationalism, which was started by J. N. Darby and popularized by C. I. Scofield.

https://catholicism.org/ad-rem-no-310.html

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ceae9e  No.828838

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>>828798

Does that prove me or my statement wrong in some way?

Also so you know the prophecy in Hosea is pre-exilic. If any of the others had been quoted, their proper context could be properly considered.

It is interesting in this article how you mention some of them entering into Catholicism. Actually their influence on Catholicism extends back further to the times of Marsilio Ficino, Giovanni pico della Mirandola and Johannes Reuchlin. The synagogue of satan picked up a lot of rank paganism from Babylon and really blasphemous notions from the gnostics during the formative period of the Babylonian Talmud, and the kabbalah, which subsequently entered Roman Catholicism (and also other state churches) through the "christian kabbalists" of the 15th century and it has been present in the state churches ever since.

In fact recently, one of the popes called Judaism and its traditions deferentially his older brother in relation to himself.

The idea of dual covenant theology and judaizing, however, is actually seeping into churches due to the unsound and wicked influence of zionism. Not because of some state church idea. See diagram.

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a2ac64  No.828844

This OP reminds me exactly of a /pol/ thread I made a decade ago

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35520d  No.829038

Trivial truth is a fallacy when a premise to something inferred of the antecedent, i.e. Christians, until you presuppose Christianity is false, are no more slaves to the Jews than absolutely anyone else.

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174808  No.829682

>>827950

>b3d98c (1)

big think

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255373  No.829688

>>829682

>big think

Did you really need to bump this garbage again for such a no-quality reply?

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a26b1d  No.829850

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>>828838

>hundreds of years of apostolic succession from Paul continuing to today's Church

>ah yes, it was some guy in the 1500s who got it right

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b5d291  No.829874

>>829850

>hundreds of years of apostolic succession from Paul continuing to today's Church

The problem is that you can't prove that supposedly apostolic succession, and history demonstrates that it's false. History also demonstrates that many of Rome's major doctrines are later innovations.

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c71750  No.829887

ancient jews: divided into several different tribes, among those the "pharisees"

today's jews: ALL pharisees

Jesus: was NOT a pharisee

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ceae9e  No.829910

>>829874

The proof is found in the words of Christ. The church has still been here still following those words, still keeping those words til today. That's how we have them in the scriptures now.

>Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

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ceae9e  No.829911

>>829887

You see, ancient (Biblical) Jews were those of the nationality of Judea, which had the legacy of the [restored] southern kingdom.

Who received the throne thereof? The Lord Jesus Christ. And as Paul affirms in Galatians, Romans and throughout, he alone inherited all of the promises. But he being God (both Lord and Christ) can also receive sons, as is mentioned by the apostle John and others. Today remember that he is risen.

>today's jews: ALL pharisees

The interesting thing is that Jesus himself denounced them in John chapter 8. John the Baptist warned them not to simply think to themselves that they have Abraham to their father. He warned them and, in a sense is still warning them.

The interesting thing is that while the Lord inherited all of the blessings such as were mentioned in the Old Testament, the pharisees in parallel handed down the spiritual legacy of the wicked one which now resides in the synagogue of Satan today. The same which was called "those which say they are Jews, and are not" in the book of Revelation chapter 2 v.9 and chapter 3 v.9, thus unwittingly fulfilling those prophecies in scripture. Their only role is to claim to be Jews (which they do, by their own admission) and yet not be Jews in the Biblical, godly definition of the word. Their existence is another proof of God's word being accurate.

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1e3215  No.829916

>>829850

Just because something is recent doesn't mean it's false. Most arguments for Catholic apostolic succession just rely on later roman pagan influence, the early Christians didn't focus on such ritualistic madness.

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5f184a  No.829928

>>829887

Pharisees aren’t a tribe

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7a02fd  No.829930

>>829887

ancient israelites were divided into several different tribes

ancient jews were one of those tribes

st. paul for example was a benjamite, and not a Jew (I believe)

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