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c083a9  No.826902

I lapsed in my religion a while ago after a severe existential crisis and panic attack, I was orthodox at one point.

Could someone please try to explain why eternal life is good? Why would one actually look forward to living forever? What the hell do we even do? So far all I know is that heaven is described as being forced to sing and worship God forever, nothing else. On top of that, your friends and family could be suffering, but you'd be brainwashed to not even care.

So what does one even do in the new earth after the second coming? I have searched far for answers, all having different sayings, but its so vague. I am loosing any faith in this existential crisis. But it seems that no one actually has ever thought through the concept of eternal life, are people just oblivious and naive?

What can change my mind?

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32e502  No.826903

https://8kun.top/pnd/res/36996.html#bottom

Secret truths to rule the world, sinking in an anchored thread! Get ‘em while they’re hot! Fresh illuminati cakes for the hungry peasants, serving ‘em up right here!

Are there actually Christians using this board? Anyway, whatev, have some world-wrecking, pardon I mean world-ruling secret insights. Make your new paradise starting here.

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830829  No.826918

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8eff79  No.826921

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>>826902

All the petty pleasures of the earth are nothing next to the ecstasy of the soul that gets to be shown God.

Take into account that He is who made all these material pleasures that you think are preferable to Him. We think that because we are extremely limited in our comprehension of Him. That feeling/reality is a total mystery for us, like an ant trying to understand human science.

We get some idea from the writings of the mystic Saints who are given the honor of getting glimpses of what awaits.

St.Teresa of Avila after having such graces found earthly existence extremely dull and petty, our attachments to precious jewels and pleasures outright silly.

'If only they knew what treasures await us' she says, and also how one should do everything one can to be higher up in the heavenly hierarchy because the higher you are the greater the treasures you'll enjoy for eternity. Getting a tiny inch closer to God is worth it all.

Read her autobiography, its a great book, also she's very spontaneous and eccentric, one might expect a dry book since its from the XVI century but her colorful personality comes through.

Her mystical stuff is scattered throughout the book but mostly at the end.

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287ef9  No.826924

>>826902

Is this what the Orthodox teach? I'm not Orthodox.

Father made Heaven sound wonderful.

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830829  No.826968

>>826921

What sort of "treasures"?

>>826924

I am not a catechism

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75ac73  No.826987

>>826968

>What sort of "treasures"?

<Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

No one can answer this question for you because no one knows, neither can anyone conceive of or comprehend. It must be accepted through faith. God is unfathomable and infinite, therefore, you could explore the love of God for eternity and never exhaust it. Have you ever been in love, OP? Is there a greater feeling? In this world, love fades into familiarity and so loses its intensity. Not so with God. Imagine being in love permanently. No person in love says, "I will get tired of this feeling," though they may realize that the feeling will not last forever. The feeling will endure with God. And He will love you back – the Creator of all things will be able to offer you every delight of this world and unquantifiably more because He is the wellspring of it all.

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cd3d44  No.827010

Is posting working again?

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65c721  No.827014

>>826902

You get a choice when it comes to eternal life. What matters is where you spend your eternal life.

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65c721  No.827015

>>827014

*you don't get a choice

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ae9723  No.827017

The afterlife is plastic. Heaven and hell are just states of being.

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4029e2  No.827091

>>826902

>Could someone please try to explain why eternal life is good? Why would one actually look forward to living forever? What the hell do we even do?

You have stared too deeply into the time vortex. Either that or you've been reading TVTropes. The fact is, you'll experience existential dread if you spend too much time thinking about how limited your life is too. And if you spend too much time thinking about ceasing to exist. Any such concept that is too large for our minds to grasp, if we try to reach beyond our mental means, will induce existential dread. The problem isn't eternal boredom. The problem is that you think you'll be eternally bored. That's kind of a leap to make, considering how very limited your squishy, meaty experience is.

Do you dread existing day by day now simply because you don't know what you'll do tomorrow or next week? I don't. Why would we then in an expanded universe? There's no reason to think that except that you're extrapolating based on extremely limited data and projecting your ignorance-based conclusion and experience as a fallen human onto the infinite question mark that is a glorified eternity.

>So far all I know is that heaven is described as being forced to sing and worship God forever, nothing else.

Let me get this straight… You think that the God who created ALL OF THIS PLACE, WITH ITS INCREDIBLE VARIETY OF LIFE AND ACTIVITIES, is going to have us sitting around 24/7 playing his favorite tunes forever? What in the world would lead you to such a ridiculous conclusion?

>On top of that, your friends and family could be suffering, but you'd be brainwashed to not even care.

It's not a matter of brainwashing… It's a matter of perspective. If that bothers you, then you don't understand what humans really are: evil. The entire basis of your affection for them is that God has restrained their evil (and yours) for the entire duration of their existence. Once they're in Hell, the restraints come off and they begin to unravel into complete madness, showing their true form in the absence of God's sustaining power. They become the monsters inside them that God suppressed while they were mortal. In a sense, they will no longer be the people that you once knew. I certainly doubt that they'll even remember you. They'll be too far gone.

>I have searched far for answers, all having different sayings, but its so vague.

It's supposed to be vague. Even when Paul was stoned to death and came back, he refused to tell people what he saw out there aside from it being something worth looking forward to. That knowledge is not for this realm. If you look too hard, you'll find liars and fallen angels who are also liars.

>But it seems that no one actually has ever thought through the concept of eternal life

Philosophers have since people began philosophizing.

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84c830  No.827158

>>826902

I don't think anyone needs to worry about having a lack of things to do in heaven or the new creation.

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c083a9  No.827193

>>827091

We can't confirm his family is like that though

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44af0e  No.827214

>>827193

>We can't confirm his family is like that though

That's why I said humans are evil. It applies to everyone who has not been spiritually regenerated by the Holy Spirit, and even then we're not completely free of that evil until we're separated from our current physical bodies.

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eb5ec6  No.827225

>>827214

What denomination are you? I haven't heard of this argument.

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3f045d  No.827246

>>827225

Standard Calvinist doctrine. The only thing restraining man's evil is God's common grace.

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2ac04d  No.827431

>>827246

>calvin

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ed09ad  No.827482

>>827431

>calvin

Reminder that Calvin didn't invent Calvinism. People just named it after him. He would probably resist people referring to the doctrines by his name, if he'd actually had any input on the matter.

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e0eca4  No.827490

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>>827482

That's true, it was augustine

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