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>>826811

I don't see tradcath theology to be as sound as that of orthodoxy, or even 1/10th as defined or vast, as the existence of tradcath as a movement or whole or cultural entity or what have you is more of a social or political thing, in trying to keep with as original a catholic tradition as possible, which may or may not be possible while recognizing the authority of the pope, thus mainstream RC, thus novus ordo, and the snake head hall in the vatican, and the liberal tweets, and the antichrist statue in said snake hall, which is unacceptable and not done. Of course anyone in their right mind choosing a denomination is going to choose the one they feel is closest to the original Church, in my case I believe orthodoxy IS the original Church. If a based and redpilled catholic parish were to open in my vicinity, according to the Church fathers who would know quite a lot more about the subject than either of us, it would still be better to attend an Orthodox church. And yes, there is a lot of difficulty with ethno-centrism and communities centering in on themselves and people not knowing what orthodoxy even is and logistics, and in 1921 I would just have been catholic like anyone, but I can not go back from what I have read, experienced and learned and I cannot ignore that the orthodox church *is* here and within reach of me, therefore, if it is the one holy apostolic catholic Church, it is to be put up with. I can't go back to believing it does not really matter anymore.

>>826814

I wouldn't, bump

>>826814

>implying

>>826823

>>826829

Papists once again have no understanding

>>826821

Its blatant that orthodoxy is false because historically there's minimal evangelization. The entirety of asia right next to them to save and nothing was done. Its ethnic like jewry.

Portugal and Spain alone converted half the planet, even up to Asia. You are given charity by God and so you want to save souls and share the good news of God incarnated.

I read some cope about it, saying its God that has to turn people's hearts and lead them to the ortho church who evangelizes by their conduct… If indeed they were a paragon of sanctity that argument could maybe stick but they arent any more holy than anyone else so that their example of virtuous living could convert anyone. We are all sinners, our conduct will always be s—.

Had the western world succumbed to Islam and the East remained as the only Christians, there would be no more Christian countries to this day.

>>826810

Jesus singled Peter and also you are a westerner, its a God's gift to be born into the real church.

As to the current state of Catholicism, who cares, ups and downs are part of creation, nothing is stable besides God. You follow the church based on truth not because its on a high historical point.

That it is on a low point is actually good for your eternal soul, your perseverance while living in a non ideal moment will be rewarded.

Besides if we had the media lambasting all the ortho calamities that happen nobody would see them as a decent alternative. The media hates the church that matters to destroy.

>>826928

Idiotic argument because according to Catholics 95%+ of the Catholics today are not Catholic, but modernists.

>As to the current state of Catholicism, who cares

See? Lol.

>The media hates the church that matters to destroy.

Maybe that's why our church has been under the Muslim yoke and then the Communist yoke for such a long time? I can literally make the same arguments you do with ease. Nothing you typed is theological at all.

And it's the East that taught the West Christianity… and since we were one church until the Schism, it's not like you can say Catholics did all the evangelization in the first millennium. And there were plenty of Orthodox in Asia (China/Japan) before the Bolsheviks took over, and we evangelized much of Alaska.