8521c9 No.825834[Last 50 Posts]
What does /christian/ think of americans?
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c41031 No.825837
Probably the same way they view any westerner. No western nation has a horse to stand on these days.
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01b34a No.825853
>>825834
Pretty much this >>825837
Europe is worse but, if we are being honest, everywhere is fallen.
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c41031 No.825862
>>825853
If I'm honest, for the Catholic Church at least, I believe priests coming from Africa and India will clean it from the inside out when the modernist boomer generation finally passes.
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d01e7a No.825866
>>825862
I don't know about India (I don't ever hear anything comming from there),
but from what I have been hearing out on Africa, tradition is highly revered. How ironic it would be for the colonizers to be saved by their former colonies.
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e5f6a3 No.825872
>>825834
They tend to be overly autistic about race. They care about it way too much.
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c41031 No.825877
>>825866
Saving us from ourselves. Utter irony.
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9ce43c No.825881
>>825834
>Americans
We've devolved into paganism and deserve every ounce of God's wrath.
>>825862
I hope for that as well. If we can be honest here, it's not the Indian or African priests promoting faggotry in our Church, but Western Boomers. I welcome those immigrant priests and will continue to encourage them as I meet them. The great thing about these traditional priests is that the Susans and other liberals infesting the Church cannot oppose their immigration here or their pro-family, anti-degeneracy homilies without being seen as intolerant thanks to the idiotic political climate said liberals have created.
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1216ba No.825883
>>825862
>If I'm honest, for the Catholic Church at least, I believe priests coming from Africa and India will clean it from the inside out when the modernist boomer generation finally passes.
If you're catholic, this hope for the passing of the "boomer generation" might sound a bit like a sin against the 4th commandment, at best.
>>825881
>We've devolved into paganism and deserve every ounce of God's wrath.
I agree.
Father says I should say the Fatima prayers to avoid the Just and righteous wrath of Our Lord upon us. I pray for the wicked to turn from their evil ways, but I cannot pray to avoid the Divine judgment of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
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1918fa No.825887
>>825881
>We've devolved into paganism and deserve every ounce of God's wrath.
There is no need for divine retribution; we will destroy ourselves with our suicidal materialism and hedonism in short order if we do not change our ways.
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ccf1d8 No.825893
>>825862
>THE SHITSKINS WILL SAVE US FROM DEGENERACY!!!
This is nothing short of maliciously delusional.
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558af0 No.825897
>>825893
Whats maliciously delusional is your unchristian racism and pessimism.
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0fd8b6 No.825913
>>825897
Unlike you, the based tigger in that pic can handle banter.
Also, no chance African and Indian priests have the capacity to restore organizational direction and strength to the world's oldest insitution, if only just looking at the extreme profligacy of Africa and India (AT LEAST on par with the West, and that's being charitable). And that's ignoring that to run an organization effectively you actually need organizational skill and human capital, which isn't in great supply in Africa or India, both of which are some of the most terribly organized regions on earth.
Waiting on some darky deus ex machina to restore order is the essence of effeminacy for 2 reasons:
1) You've obviously internalized the central premise of modernist progressivism: whitey bad and deserves to die out. This premise also discredits Christianity since the European nations were also the vehicle of Christendom reaching peoples around the world. And besides that, if you have this attitude, you're a demoralized husk who only has a parody of love in his heart. One of the central benefits promised to Abraham was that his seed would outnumber the stars (yeah he obviously interpretted that more literally than modern Christians do, but that was allowed because the literal interpretation is also an expression of love and charity), so imagine if he had this kind of ambivalent weakling mindset and cared nothing for his own kin.
2) It's just an excuse to continue doing nothing, since obviously the BASED swarthy foreigners are gonna do all the hard work for us.
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dffc68 No.825919
America was established as a freemasonic base of operations by Francis Bacon, and has been spreading anti-Christian revolution ever since. The Founding Fathers were instrumental in supporting the French Revolution.
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c41031 No.825924
>>825883
Hardly. Everyone passes away eventually. I don't wish them to die prematurely, nor that they be denied God's Infinite Mercy. I merely am stating that lot of the Church's current problems come from a specific generation.
>>825913
Oh spare me. Its pure hubris if you think no one save Europeans could run the Church. Look at the state of the Church in the west and you tell me how it could be worse. We have empty pews, watered down liturgy, and weak priests. I'll take a little mismanagement and anarchy as long as the priests have actual PASSION.
And winnie the pooh right off with "you've internalized whitey bad and must die out", I specifically called out the boomer modernist generation. There are a growing number of young, traditional priests, but they are vastly outnumbered by their older peers who have inspired no vocations to replace them.
The future of the Church will always be in the hands of the people that actually inspire vocations.
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1216ba No.825925
>>825924
hating the older generation is a sin, as is false witness against them
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44efda No.825935
>>825924
>>825897
>>825881
>>825877
>>825862
>>825866
Yes goyim, the BASED BLACKS are going to save the West! These people from godless hellholes like India and Somalia are going to help the useless European goyim get back to G-d. Don't you know G-d wants you to hate your own race?
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c41031 No.825937
>>825925
If I hate them, why would I specifically state I don't wish untimely ends or a denial of Salvation? Who does that for people they hate?
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34f926 No.825940
>>825924
Not him but you're delusional if you think the return to tradition will come from Africa or India. I know about BASED Cardinal Sarah, but he certainly doesn't represent the influence Africa will have on the Church. I live in frog land and what tiggers brought to us is singing while claping your hands during the mass, almost dancing while you're at it. Also if a return to tradition must happen, it should be on the level of intellectualism of westerners. Even though black priests can preach and bring Christ wisdom to white people, they won't always be listened because of the difference in intelligence. I've heard enough sermons from black priests to know this is true. There is no pride to take in being intelligent, but it must be acknowledged. White priests will have an easier time talking to white fidels than black priests do.
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1216ba No.825943
>>825937
What I said is true, but there are more ways to mortal sin of not honoring your father and mother than just hating them. Wishing them gone is not honoring your father and mother (prior generations).
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e4ac4a No.827334
>>825897
I agree. These same ideas brought this board down just late last year. I am most disappointed in Ideologues. I try preaching on HalfChan and all they do is twist what I say to mean what THEY want to mean.
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838e5e No.827356
>>827334
>I try preaching on HalfChan and all they do is twist what I say
Here's a thought… If our ideas are so wrong, why don't you try using logic, reason, and data to explain why we're wrong about race instead of preaching an interpretation of scripture that would force us to blindly ignore our missing bicycles and the Jews running every major porn website and TV news network? If you're right about this, then the world should reflect that, no? So show us.
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e4ac4a No.827400
>>827356
I DO, but you guys TWIST it. You are intellectually dishonest. I know full well. I was one of you. I looked for truth, and you only brought me unholy wrath
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e4ac4a No.827401
>>827356
You are an ideologue. You think ideology will fix the world. Guess what? IT DOES NOT. ALL IDEOLOGIES seek to put man above God and NOT God above Man as it should be
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fe2e8c No.827461
>>825940
>>825940
I imagine the boomer lukewarmness and alienated millennials can sap the soul of any fervent priest.
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ee0003 No.827462
>>825897
Using a jewish epithet created to destroy Christianity is un-Christian. As is disrespecting your Lord and Savior by not capitalizing His title.
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3e68f8 No.827483
>>827400
>I was one of you.
Ah, the classic "I was one of you"… When ever someone uses this argument in literally any context, in my experience, it inevitably means they never intellectually understood the position in the first place. People who understand a position respond with actual argumentation, rather than appealing to their supposed credibility as a former [x].
If you were "one of us" then you should be able to honestly represent our arguments even if you no longer agree with them, yes?
>>827401
>ALL IDEOLOGIES seek to put man above God and NOT God above Man as it should be
Christianity is an ideology.
inb4 a romantic, abstract description of how Christianity somehow isn't ideological because it's a relationship with God.
Don't forget that the basis of my position is God's ordination of nations. You're trying to tear them down, I want to build them up. I am lending myself to my maintenance of God's decreed order, you're trying to innovate based on wacky modern philosophies by social progressives.
>>827462
>Using a jewish epithet created to destroy Christianity is un-Christian.
Amen to that.
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e4ac4a No.827531
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e4ac4a No.827535
>>827483
You really do not know what ideology is, do you?
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0eb97a No.827562
>>827535
>You really do not know what ideology is, do you?
You were totally about to try to write exactly what I said someone would write, until you read my spoilered text, weren't you? Did I steal your thunder right out from under you? Does it leave you with an empty feeling?
>>827531
>THAT is an oxymoron
>
>https://www.ncronline.org/blogs/distinctly-catholic/faith-vs-ideology
>
>https://www.thecatholicthing.org/2011/05/05/catholicism-not-ideology/
Sentimental opinions from Catholic blogs to counter a semantic argument. An interesting choice, but the only people who will even begin to care what those blogs say are other Catholics, because my argument wasn't a theological one. The fact remains, organized religions fall under a subcategory of ideology. So yes, I'm quite ideological, but so are you.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/ideology-society
>Ideology, a form of social or political philosophy in which practical elements are as prominent as theoretical ones. It is a system of ideas that aspires both to explain the world and to change it.
See? Overlap with organized religion. That's why we have to have the term political ideology to differentiate it from a religious ideology. Ideology is not a dirty word. It's a system of ideas and a way of understanding the world.
Now if you wanted to argue that my ideas weren't drawn from or compatible with God's revealed truths and thus invalidate my ideology, that would be something worth discussing. However you're going to have to demonstrate directly from the scriptures that this is the case, because I wouldn't trust the Vatican's opinion on bean dip, much less biblical interpretation.
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e4ac4a No.827566
>>827562
Does not disprove my point. It is NOT an ideology. i don'tr care what the modern definition of ideology is. It does not apply to the Catholic Church
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e4ac4a No.827567
https://catholicexchange.com/abandoning-ideology-the-true-breadth-and-depth-of-catholicism
We are ABOVE whatever ideology people spew out nowadays. We are above Fascism..communism…liberalism…etc
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e4ac4a No.827569
>>827562
We ARE the Church of Christ. Whether you accept that or not is up to you. God WILL prevail. You really think you can take on the Church? Romans could not do it. Muslims could not do it. Napoleon couldn't take us out. Hitler could not do anything. Neither will you. All will bend the knee before Christ
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0eb97a No.827575
>>827566
>i don'tr care what the modern definition of ideology is.
You should. It's a modern word.
>>827567
>We are ABOVE whatever ideology people spew out nowadays. We are above Fascism..communism…liberalism…etc
So you say you're above political ideology. Got it.
>>827569
>You really think you can take on the Church?
Yes. I keep telling you people to bring a priest here for me to argue with. You realize I'm not joking, right?
>All will bend the knee before Christ
I certainly agree with that! Κυριος ΙΗΣΟΥΣ!
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e4ac4a No.827582
>>827575
>He thinks He can take on the Church.
okay. Suit yourself. But be warned. It is fool hardy. I wished for it to be destroyed myself once. Funny how things work out
>We are above political ideology gotcha
We serve the Kingdom of God. Those who seek our destruction, lest they be Commies, fascists, liberals, Muslims, Jews, Protestants, SHALL BE CRUSHED. You are on a fools errand, child. You have no idea how weak you are. You are but a man. How will you take down the Kingdom of God, may I ask? Guns? That' been tried. Ideology. Tried. Usurpers? Tried. You will NOT succeed. Even the people you hate and accuse of of being in cahoots with, will not prevail against us. HELL… will NOT prevail against us, and you CERTAINLY won't. You are a mere man, who thinks himself bigger than He is. He thinks that because he is white, he is fit to judge and condemn.He thinks he is superior to many. Guess what? You and I are the same. we hurt the same, we bleed the same, we die the same, and we can be condemned to hellfire the same. Don't count your chickens before they hatch.
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e4ac4a No.827583
got to r/askapriest if you want to scrabble with the big boys, little one.
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b3b8bb No.827588
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fc588e No.827589
>>827588
Based to attack God's Church?
That's not going to work out well. Even a petty man would protect his family. Not sure how why you clowns always think it's going to be any different with God.
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b3b8bb No.827590
>>827589
Based to reject false Roman Catholic claims of authority on their face instead of even entertaining the stupid little quibbles and question begging like you're trying to get into right now
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0eb97a No.827592
>>827583
>got to r/askapriest if you want to scrabble with the big boys, little one.
First of all, I wouldn't be caught dead posting on reddit. Secondly, you know full well that >>827356 can't be discussed on reddit. Especially not on a Catholic subreddit. The thread would be deleted and my throwaway account would be banned faster than you could say "low sexual dimorphism."
What are you so afraid of? Rome is the true and only church of God, right? If God has truly vested Rome with that authority, then there should be nothing to worry about. After all, Rome is in 100% agreement with the holy scriptures, right? The gates of hell shall not prevail against God's church. So a learned priest, endowed with authority by the Holy Spirit, should be able to use the scriptures to defeat any silly argument that I might bring up. Or could it be that you have some kind of subconscious fear about what might happen if you expose one of your remaining priests to uncensored ideas? That would be doubt, and doubt is a sin, so go to confession and let your priest know that I'm waiting for him.
>>827588
Nice dubs.
>>827589
>Based to attack God's Church?
What is it with you Papists that you think claiming authority over and over again is a meaningful argument? If someone did this to you in any other context, would you take them seriously? If I put on a funny hat and got a trident and claimed myself Poseidon, King of Atlantis, would you consult me regarding what the rules of the ocean were? Because that's basically what you're doing from the perspective of anyone outside the Roman Church. Substantiate Rome's authority in a manner that is meaningful to someone outside of Rome.
>That's not going to work out well. Even a petty man would protect his family. Not sure how why you clowns always think it's going to be any different with God.
Good thing you're outside of God's family then, eh?
>>827582
>I wished for it to be destroyed myself once. Funny how things work out
OKAY, GREAT! Then you should be able to meaningfully demonstrate the basis of Rome's authority, right? Seeing as you were certainly quite thorough and were only convinced by such a demonstration yourself, no? Please do share.
>You are on a fools errand, child.
For a child, I sure do have an advanced vocabulary.
>You have no idea how weak you are. You are but a man.
I AM THE MIGHTY POSEIDON, KING OF ATLANTIS! FEAR MY HAT!
>You are a mere man, who thinks himself bigger than He is.
Thank you for capitalizing that H. I am the mighty Poseidon, King of Atlantis, after all. I make the rules of the ocean!
>He thinks that because he is white, he is fit to judge and condemn. He thinks he is superior to many.
I am half fish, leg man. Yes, sealife is superior, but I continue to allow your kind to exist because I am a beneficent king. You're welcome.
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e4ac4a No.827654
>>827592
I will pray for you. You seem blinded by the world,like far too many people in the world. I pray we all make it
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1063f0 No.827670
>>827654
>I will pray for you. You seem blinded by the world
So your position is indefensible, but you're going to cling to it anyway. Got it.
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e4ac4a No.827726
>>827670
No you already took a position. You like many in the world, keep generalizing people. You generalize women. Generalize blacks. If you can't not be hypocritical than don't bother talking to us. You are like the reddit atheists who are already sure of the truth and shoot down any claim of the truth. You are blinded by the world like many in my life. You are intellectually dishonest as >>827356 show. You are hypocritical and there is no point in talking to you, if you refuse to see our point of view than good luck. Also I asked you how are you going to take down the Church? Answer me that at least.
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e4ac4a No.827727
>>827726
with guns/ that did not work? kill our pope? Nope. You have nothing. Good bye
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e4ac4a No.827730
>>827670
it was people like you that got this site shut down last year. You Storm weenies are USELESS. You have done more harm than good. we experienced the Holocaust fool. We had entire troupes of priests MURDERED by people like you. We died protecting those who could not protect themselves. Your ideology, like communism is cancerous undergrowth on society. You both will be crushed in the end
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e4ac4a No.827731
Rudolf Hoess, the guy who ran Auschwitz, confessed to His crimes and repented, and took communion before being hung for his crimes.
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af44b9 No.827732
>>827670
>jewtuber cuckservative
lol
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fc588e No.827733
>>827731
Praise be to God. Better late than ever.
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fc588e No.827734
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1063f0 No.827737
>>827726
>>827727
>>827730
>>827731
>>827732
>>827733
Okay, I tried smug Zero Two… I tried provoking you… I tried s—posting… I even tried Stephan Molydude. There's only one thing left to try…
Please, PLEASE respond to any of my arguments! I'm literally begging you, please directly engage with even a single point I made!
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fc588e No.827740
>>827737
Nothing matters what I say to you. I'm one of the very damned in the eyes of the race obsessed (I'm a Hapa). Apparently I'm just supposed to die and then burn in hell, for merely existing. No amount of longing for Christ matters. Let alone whatever "logic" I use.
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1063f0 No.827743
>>827740
> I'm one of the very damned in the eyes of the race obsessed (I'm a Hapa). Apparently I'm just supposed to die and then burn in hell, for merely existing.
You've mistaken my position for someone else's. (Which is funny, because nobody bothered asking me what it was in the first place.) I condemn no one to hell merely for their race, hybrid or otherwise. God has His people among all the races of the earth. What will condemn someone to hell is having a false gospel, which is why I keep stabbing at Rome's authority… Its gospel takes a very different form than what you'll arrive at on the basis of what scripture alone teaches. So if Rome's claim of authority can't be substantiated, then her gospel is equally baseless. I'm trying to warn you of a very real danger, even if I am provocative.
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fc588e No.827745
>>827743
In that case, I apologize. Sincerely. I've lost track of who's saying what, I'm afraid.
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1063f0 No.827749
>>827745
>I apologize.
It happens, don't worry about it.
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af44b9 No.827750
>>827737
I'm not catholic so I can't
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471aa4 No.827759
>>827750
>I'm not catholic so I can't
Oh. Have a rare merchant then. Hopefully the Catholics come back. God bless the South, where we still fly St. Andrew's cross.
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ff8a24 No.827793
>>825935
Do you believe these people have souls, or what?
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e4ac4a No.827798
>>827759
are you baptist by any chance?
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e4ac4a No.827799
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e4ac4a No.827805
>>827759
Tell me this
: WHERE did the COMPLETE bible, come from? Who first put all the books together into one collection?
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e4ac4a No.827807
>>827743
>Catholics
>False gospel
You keep saying this, and it still makes no sense. Sola scriptura does not make sense,, it has no basis in reality, and to be truthful, I find catholicism closer to the truth than Protestantism. I will take you more seriously when you stop schisming. Tell me, there are 33,000 version of Protestantism at the moment. My dads Lutheran Church split over disagreements. So explain to me, how YOU got it right and why others got it wrong. Because to me, Protestantism is false gospel. Also what is with anime and you funposters? I see protestants do this and I never really understand why. Must be a way to win without valid arguments
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8d4507 No.827810
>>827805
>WHERE did the COMPLETE bible
A variety of authors at different times and in different places.
>Who first put all the books together into one collection?
I don't know that and neither do you. Codex Vaticanus is merely the oldest preserved complete bible that we have. We don't even know its origins with certainty. All we know is that the Vatican has cool stuff in its basement. Having a great storage facility is not the same thing as being able to use the equipment you're storing. You're still arguing from an authority that you haven't demonstrated.
>>827807
>Sola scriptura does not make sense,, it has no basis in reality
Neither does Rome's claim to be in agreement with scripture when that's plainly not the case. You can only shoehorn so many traditions into that one verse before it starts to look like pic related.
>I find catholicism closer to the truth than Protestantism.
Cool.
>I will take you more seriously when you stop schisming
I've never heard schism used as a verb before. Did you know that mercy and compassion in Romans 9:15-16 are both verbs in the Greek?
>Tell me, there are 33,000 version of Protestantism at the moment
Sorry, I didn't realize you were a parrot. See >>827550 from another thread. I'll just copy-paste instead of retyping.
>From where I'm standing, Catholicism seems just as divided as Protestantism. We just subdivide differently. I mean, have you seen the Catholic-Voodoo hybrid stuff going on in African countries? And many American Catholic churches look far more similar to Protestantism than actual Catholicism. Don't even get me started on the complete obsession with Mary, even above Jesus, in South America. Or what about "canonically irregular" church societies? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_communities_using_the_Tridentine_Mass In Protestantism, we call all those sorts of differences denominations.
Also, do you not realize that the debunked 33,000 argument makes you look like a buffoon in the eyes of anyone that isn't Catholic?
https://www.ncregister.com/blog/scottericalt/we-need-to-stop-saying-that-there-are-33000-protestant-denominations
Listen to your own side.
>My dads Lutheran Church split over disagreements.
Sorry to hear that. I hope it wasn't over something silly. That happens sometimes.
>So explain to me, how YOU got it right and why others got it wrong.
You misunderstand the nature of the separations between Protestants. Lutherans, Presbyterians, Episcopalians, Anglicans, and Baptists aren't claiming that the others all have false gospels. That's not the basis of the separation. It's other issues like church structure, baptism, liturgy, and soteriology. The gospel itself isn't different, assuming a congregation has remained true to orthodoxy. The separation is basically a freedom of conscience thing.
>Because to me, Protestantism is false gospel.
Can you accurately define what the Protestant gospel is?
>Also what is with anime and you funposters?
Do the smug anime girls cause you discomfort?
>Must be a way to win without valid arguments
You haven't even tried to show me how my arguments are invalid though. You just insist that it's a foregone conclusion and then ask more questions without answering any of mine.
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b3b8bb No.827816
>>827810
The talking point goes that it was the roman church who had divine authority to decide the canon and we depend on this authority for our Bible, but inconsistently reject the authority in other areas
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849454 No.827819
>>827816
>The talking point goes that it was the roman church who had divine authority to decide the canon and we depend on this authority for our Bible
Wait… So… He actually thought I'd blindly cede Rome having anything to do with the canon? Wow, I really overthought that one. Is that where atheists and Muslims get the silly idea that the unspecified Council of Nicaea determined which books would be allowed into the bible? That would really explain a lot, actually.
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b3c4b7 No.827896
I'll tell you what i as an american think of chrsitans.
You stupid winnie the pooh tiggers should go kil yourselves.
There, there you go, epic gamer moment achieved. Now i'm gonna go fap to some d—girls
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a6122f No.828404
>>825834
The stupid filthy shameful mutts may have it Noble in the afterlife on Pascal's wager but here and now they are guaranteed to spiral further still into the hideous chaos I would do anything not to be part of. They will be bred to a human equivalent of a diseased pug when they were once mighty hounds. They will kill themselves slowly into ever more obese, insane, retarded, and childish sugar addicts, baby sprayers, drug addicts and drunkards but it will be okay because the sportsballers are in for another good season and there's still another good country left to plunder or plunder again with the advanced technology the ever shrinking academic elite will pump out. God bless the troops, and my pronouns, and Isruhel too!
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157fa1 No.828409
>>825935
The West very well may never gain its former glory, its descendants and remnants may only survive as an outnumbered diaspora in a world that has forgotten them and learned to hate them. Our ancestors got away with stalling and expelling our eternal enemy from the world's throne in Rome time and time again with swords and spears but can we kick them out this time when they have nukes and cyber supremacy? The Church will live on as the West is mortal to the backstab of its familiar usual suspect foes because from this ferment the Church ever resurrects and grows. The female side of her births a new innocent know nothing generation to find the truth once more and pick our fury out of the ashes right behind the eternal Satanic rebel. The first will be last and the last will be first. Therefore all our Christianized colonies and disciples of disciples will take our place especially the brown and slow. Apple and Amazon is soon to bring us the mark of the beast and the Antichrist will take power as described in the protocols possibly within our life time. It will be like Moses the stutterer being given the voice of God when Shlomo's charade is up and not one of his mutt subjects believes in his fiat scheme no more.
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e4ac4a No.829786
>>828404
You think we care what you are spewing about? You can rant and rave all you want. But I will stick with Christ. You may have hardened enough your hearts to your fellow man, but don't drag us through it. You will bend the knee along with everyone else. Love you, anon.
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f25af8 No.829789
America was a supremely blessed nation, in love with deuteronomy 28. The unfortunate thing is that we have turned our backs on God. I think revival is happening here, though, but will be exported also because God's calling his people out.
Also, having been to both India and Africa on mission trips, I can say God is doing amazing things in both places. I've seen miracles in both places and if you're concerned that one church will lead the charge of change, then step aside because God's using those who will rely solely on him. There's a reason so many churches have sprung up recently which don't use traditional naming systems denoting themselves as Baptist, Lutheran, etc. God's breaking down the divisions people built up and using those who simply follow the Bible.
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f739e6 No.829794
>>829789
>There's a reason so many churches have sprung up recently which don't use traditional naming systems
You realize this is because of apathy toward doctrine in those congregations, right? This isn't anything worth celebrating.
We are told in the word of God to hold fast to and speak things which become sound doctrine, to show uncorruptness in doctrine. If it is part of God's Holy Word, then it is there for a reason and nobody is right to disregard it. And to show a lack of concern for doctrinal matters shows a disregard for these matters as errors creep in unawares. This is a neverending problem, it didn't just start yesterday but it's getting pretty bad and overtly unscriptural these days in its almost boastful disregard for doctrine. The naming conventions simply reflect that emphasis on doctrine or the lack thereof.
>God's breaking down the divisions people built up
Yes, sure, but not the divisions that God himself set up and established. He came to bring division (Luke 12:51), to bring light in a dark place so that the state of all men would be brought to light. See the following passage.
>Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also. But all these things will they do unto you for my name's sake, because they know not him that sent me. If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no cloke for their sin.
We should therefore withstand all forms of antinomianism. Don't hide from "scandal," but live a life openly against unrighteousness. Actually keep his word and not only profess it. Our strength to do this comes from the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus our Lord.
Withdraw from the wicked, don't commune with them.
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f25af8 No.829795
>>829794
>>There's a reason so many churches have sprung up recently which don't use traditional naming systems
>You realize this is because of apathy toward doctrine in those congregations, right? This isn't anything worth celebrating.
>We are told in the word of God to hold fast to and speak things which become sound doctrine, to show uncorruptness in doctrine. If it is part of God's Holy Word, then it is there for a reason and nobody is right to disregard it. And to show a lack of concern for doctrinal matters shows a disregard for these matters as errors creep in unawares. This is a neverending problem, it didn't just start yesterday but it's getting pretty bad and overtly unscriptural these days in its almost boastful disregard for doctrine. The naming conventions simply reflect that emphasis on doctrine or the lack thereof.
1 Corinthians 1:10-17
10 I appeal to you, brothers and sisters,[a] in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree with one another in what you say and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly united in mind and thought. 11 My brothers and sisters, some from Chloe’s household have informed me that there are quarrels among you. 12 What I mean is this: One of you says, “I follow Paul”; another, “I follow Apollos”; another, “I follow Cephas[b]”; still another, “I follow Christ.”
13 Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized in the name of Paul? 14 I thank God that I did not baptize any of you except Crispus and Gaius, 15 so no one can say that you were baptized in my name. 16 (Yes, I also baptized the household of Stephanas; beyond that, I don’t remember if I baptized anyone else.) 17 For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel—not with wisdom and eloquence, lest the cross of Christ be emptied of its power.
>>829794
>>God's breaking down the divisions people built up
>Yes, sure, but not the divisions that God himself set up and established. He came to bring division (Luke 12:51), to bring light in a dark place so that the state of all men would be brought to light. See the following passage.
That passage is speaking to the fact that if you follow Jesus, people in your family will turn against you. You are misinterpreting it.
And yes, this all is worth celebrating and you know why? Because we're getting back to what God originally intended in the church. Grab a Bible, read what it says, have a relationship with God and spread his word. There's a reason why some people care about the traditions of man and these new churches don't. They simply want to see God's love flourish. And I'll tell you what, it's happening.
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f739e6 No.829818
>>829795
Despising what God said is not worth celebrating!
>You are misinterpreting it.
You ignored the passage that I mentioned regarding speaking only sound doctrine which is from the epistle to Titus. You ignored the passage that I mentioned regarding being separate from the world in John 15. Dismissing the overwhelming evidence that emphasizes sound doctrine is nothing good nor is it anything we haven't seen before. You don't even deny that you place no emphasis whatsoever on sound doctrine. Well various cults, charismatics, gnostics and so forth have all done the same. According to 1 Corinthians 2:13-14, knowing the actual truth of God's word is what sets us apart– "But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned."
From the words of Paul to Timothy:
If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.
>Grab a Bible, read what it says, have a relationship with God and spread his word.
I would have no problem with you saying this but you just quoted from a corrupted modern version. So now you're apparently approving of people who change what God says, redefining words. You probably think it doesn't matter, since when I mentioned that you all disregarded sound doctrine you didn't deny it. Like most people who do not know the word of God, they do not even care to look into such things as they are mere side details to them and not regarded as the perfect, eternal inspired word of God.
1 Peter 1:23-25
Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away:
But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.
>>Because we're getting back to what God originally intended in the church.
Everyone in the world was wrong before you came along? You should probably read the passage in Matthew 16:18 where Jesus said that the gates of hell "shall not prevail" against his church. And also the passage in Matthew 24:35 where Jesus said that his words "shall not pass away."
>There's a reason why some people care about the traditions of man and these new churches don't.
Ok wait a second there. People with incorrect doctrine have taken much of it from the state church. The state church was meant to be an all-encompassing federation just as you are describing and it basically ended up tossing Scripture into the trash and glorifying traditions of man. Fortunately, the church still safeguarded the word in its purity which we now have today. I don't take kindly to seeing it thrown in the trash now to promote some kind of faux-unity built around the will of the masses and their manmade traditions. The fact that people are so utterly uncaring about what the Bible says and about what really matters is not a joyous event, no not at all.
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
- Galatians 1:8-9
For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.
Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.
Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears.
- Acts 20:29-31
Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.
- 2 John 9-11
Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
- 2 Timothy 4:1-4
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f739e6 No.829819
>>829795
>Grab a Bible,
I'll lay hold on the Truth, the eternal unchanging inspired word of the Lord and hold it fast.
I'm not going to deal with some corrupted version you might have piled up. I won't just grab something without even checking it,.
>read what it says, have a relationship with God and spread his word.
Yes, I will, which is part of what I have been doing right now. God will protect his church through this. I am not even slightly demoralized from all this, rather I am encouraged by seeing the words of the Lord being fulfilled.
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