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File: 40a8f9cc598252e⋯.jpg (87.76 KB, 1200x630, 40:21, Pope-Francis-Slaps-Woman.jpg)

d495d5  No.825581

The audacity of this guy. Tells people to be patient and to import millions of violent throat cutting maniacs. Slaps a worshippers hand and shouts at her instead of giving her a second of his time. To be clear, the woman was absolutely wrong in grabbing him. But there is nothing that justifies this reaction. Personally, it was hard and heartbreaking to watch. Almost brought tears to my eyes even. Can you imagine being a devout worshipper of Christ, waiting for a chance to meet his representative on earth your whole life, and then being treated like a dog by him? Just how long are you catholics going to put up with this absolute heretic?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WySwhj2SwE&feature=emb_logo

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000000  No.825582

where is francis in the pic? i don't see him

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2e5aae  No.825584

>>825581

>2020

>still not a catholic

>still complaining about the pope

>also posting the exact same stuff on the other christian board

Fag and butthurt

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037d6d  No.825585

File: f34c4be7745833e⋯.jpg (886.81 KB, 1200x1200, 1:1, Boniface.jpg)

>>825581

We will put up with and pray for Bergoglio for as long as God permits him to be pope (wether he expires or resigns, only God knows). I'm more worried about who will replace him once he is gone. Will we get a Francis II or a Pius XIII? (Hopefully the latter)

The real question some one like you should be asking is

>why haven't I come home to Rome?

If we had more based and non-pozzed people like you in Jesus' one true church maybe we wouldn't be having these modernist problems we unfortunately have to deal with today.

Saint Boniface, pray for us!

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9840f4  No.825587

File: 8da5c2176c5f812⋯.jpeg (85.55 KB, 720x523, 720:523, 56f45f2b150000ad000b325f.jpeg)

>>825581

Papists become more and more pathetic by the day

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a84569  No.825588

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>825581

>>825585

>>825587

He's an anti-pope.

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037d6d  No.825589

File: 90baed05adb5abe⋯.jpg (71.79 KB, 640x920, 16:23, 05409b32f3798ee55ca2ab29f9….jpg)

>>825587

Hi /pol/,

You keep posting that picture like it means something bad. It isn't.

Jesus washed peoples' feet as well. Do I agree with the Pope's stance on immigration? No, but that doesn't mean he can't wash people's feet.

Maybe, just maybe, if you went out of your way to do something good for people instead of acting like an anti-christian, people would like you more. Come home to Rome and stop being a heretic already.

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037d6d  No.825590

File: d985a8b68679615⋯.jpg (384.49 KB, 620x310, 2:1, web3-fresco-of-st-peter-th….jpg)

>>825588

>pope sitting down with jews makes him an anti-pope.

No it doesn't.

>most unholy meme monestary

Sigh. I really wish sedes like you would stop leaving the church. You are literally no different than protestants. If the church was to be abandoned at the forst sign of a bad leader, the kingdom of Israel would have been abandoned LOOONG before the era of Jeremiah.

The fact of the matter is we all have to bear this cross of modernists in the church until we can get a new generation of priests that are more traditional. We can't do that if people like you abandon the church for the Catholic equivalent of the blackpill.

Come home to Rome, friend. Peter didn't forsake the Church because Judas was a traitor, and neither should you.

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9a9451  No.825591

>>825590

>>pope sitting down with jews makes him an anti-pope.

I didn't say that.

>most unholy meme monestary

Insults, but no refutation. Typical. Where is your argument that proves them wrong?

>sedes like you would stop leaving the church.

I haven't left the church.

>You are literally no different than protestants.

That's not true, of course.

>If the church was to be abandoned at the forst sign of a bad leader,

That's not what the problem is. You can't be a heretic and a member of the church, and if you're not a member, you can't hold office.

Pope Leo XIII, Satis Cognitum (# 9), June 29, 1896: "The practice of the Church has always been the same, and that with the consenting judgment [i.e. consensus] of the holy fathers who certainly were accustomed to hold as having no part of Catholic communion and as banished from the Church whoever had departed in even the least way from the doctrine proposed by the authentic Magisterium."

Satis Cognitum (#15): "No one, therefore, unless in communion with Peter can share in his authority, since it is absurd to imagine that he who is outside the Church can command in the Church."

>Come home to Rome, friend. Peter didn't forsake the Church because Judas was a traitor, and neither should you.

You are clueless.

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2e5aae  No.825595

>>825588

For guys like you every pope is the anti-pope and even the antichrist himself.

Why bother pointing it out?

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77905d  No.825596

>>825595

>For guys like you every pope is the anti-pope and even the antichrist himself.

That's not true. You lie.

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134388  No.825599

>>825589

You should pray for Christ too then, this angry man whipped innocent people out of the temple. Couldn't he just turned the other cheek and prayed, like a good christian?

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176685  No.825604

File: 47a033fe5075d21⋯.jpeg (183.29 KB, 1242x1233, 138:137, ELIidj1UEAAVLjN.jpeg)

File: 074a576f75bc00d⋯.jpg (56.09 KB, 344x517, 344:517, ChristHighPriest.jpg)

File: 42a0fd16d175749⋯.jpeg (94.04 KB, 1080x1080, 1:1, EIaf23PX0AAe2Sh.jpeg)

Embrace the third position (Orthodoxy) folks

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2e5aae  No.825605

>>825595

Prove it. Say 5 good things Francis has done since the begining of his papacy.

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ff0169  No.825606

>>825604

While orthodox policy and tradition are pretty based, the patriarchs and priests aren't exactly known for a pious and appropriate lifestyle. In Russia at least they are known for owning expensive property, cars, luxury watches and other things while preaching a modest lifestyle.

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2e5aae  No.825607

>>825599

Weak trolling dude. Not cool.

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037d6d  No.825608

File: fe77c973f2a0a62⋯.jpg (1.98 MB, 914x1200, 457:600, cph_30241900557.jpg)

>>825599

Jesus is God. He can clean out His temple that He owns if He wants to. We are not God. Just like how David (before He was king) didn't kill King Saul because he was the appointed leader of the Kingdom we should not kill our leader. For it will do us no good to simply kill our leaders we don't agree with.

Literally storming the Vatican and throwing him out would be no different. It is up to the cardinals to depose of the Pope by declaring him a heretic. In the mean time we must do our part in keeping tradition alive and well in the church. We teach people the beauty of the Latin Mass and the traditions of our forefathers. We teach them the real presence and to love their nation as themselves. We start families and have kids and teach them the same. We rebuke the pope and the modernist prelates whenever they say something stupid, but we don't go calling for a revolution whenever a pope says/does something stupid. If that were true than we would have done so when we had bad popes like Alexander VI philandering with whores or John XII who murdered people or Urban VI who tortured his cardinals that conspired agianst him.

Much like how faithful Israel had to wait for the disobedients to die off before they were worthy to enter the promised land (Exodus to Joshua) we too will have to wait for all these liberal boomers to die off before the traditional catholics in seminaries take over.

We don't go deposing our leaders we don't like. We aren't freemasons/protestants that call for blood or a revolution when ever we don't get our way.

As Jesus tells St. Peter in Mark 4:40

> “Why are you so afraid? Do you still have no faith?”

The Church will go through some storms, but God will protect as he promised He would.

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037d6d  No.825609

File: a5973c0fd589093⋯.jpg (118.81 KB, 1242x1181, 1242:1181, ftz29skmdwo11.jpg)

>>825605

>name 5 good things Pope Francis has done

1. He tells bishops not to allow fags into seminaries (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-pope-homosexuality/pope-tells-bishops-not-to-accept-gay-seminarians-report-idUSKCN1IP36J)

2. He defrocked McCarrick (https://apnews.com/33645dd626674bec9ef6198528267dc6)

3. His actions have unified traditional Catholics. Albeit he unified them against him, but he still unified them.

4. He called out modern gender theory as the problem, not a solution (https://www.ncronline.org/blogs/francis-chronicles/pope-francis-gender-theory-problem-not-solution)

5. He reaffirmed the Church's teaching on no women in the clergy (https://www.ncronline.org/blogs/grace-margins/its-time-be-honest-about-pope-francis-and-women)

6. There is this list of all the "problematic" things that the Pope does to piss off the left. (https://www.theodysseyonline.com/pope-francis-is-hypocrite-and-bigot)

Yes, the Pope has done and said alot of stupid things that out weighs alot of the good things he has done and said, but that doesn't change the fact that he is the Pope. When his judgment day comes he will have to answer for his actions at the judgement seat of Christ like we all have to do. In the mean time, we pray for him and hope he sees the error of his ways before it is too late.

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2e5aae  No.825611

>>825609

Are you the same guy i asked the question to? Your id is different.

If so then i don't see what the problem is when slapping the hand of a woman who obviously was aggressive.

(This is where the discussion started.)

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ff0169  No.825615

>>825611

>slapping the hand of a woman who obviously was aggressive.

She was not being aggressive, that's the point.

Just watch the video again. Look how excited she is. Look how she crosses herself when she sees him, anxiously waiting for her turn to be able to just touch his hand. She looks chinese so she might have travelled half the world for this opportunity. Then she sees him turning away. Which is obviously not his fault as he can't touch and bless everyone in attendance. She is upset and grabs his hand in desperation, which she absolutely shouldn't have done. But it was not done out of malice of aggression. That's why I believe the popes reaction was not appropriate.

In the gospel of Matthew there is a story of a sick woman who grabbed the end of Jesus' garment. It doesn't matter whether she grabbed his cloth or yanked his hand. The point of that story is that she acted in a highly inappropriate way but Jesus blessed her regardless because she had faith. Francis should have done the same. I understand that he is not Christ incarnate, that he is human and he was annoyed. Still, I believe he should have shown patience and understanding. It's not like he was punched in the face by some unironically hostile person.

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8d1943  No.825617

>>825615

Have you read that story? Jesus's first reaction was to stop, turn around, look angrily at the crowd and say, "Who touched my clothes?" His first reaction was anger, then he calmed down. Francis's reaction was spot on.

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2e5aae  No.825619

>>825615

>I understand that he is not Christ incarnate,

Jesus was at least 32 or 33 at that moment. In contrast, Francis is very old, one only lung working and probably other problems too. One does not simply pull old people and expect a good response. :)

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1304db  No.825620

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>>825581

The pope literally apologized the next day, so why are people still hung up about this? It's literally a non-issue.

There are better things to criticize the pope for.

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8d1943  No.825621

>>825620

People who hate Catholics don't care about the Pope. It doesn't matter who gets elected, they're going to leech onto every tiny little thing and scream it into the void all day, every day, in an attempt to get people to leave Christ's Church.

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114fd2  No.825622

>>825617

>Have you read that story?

Have you? From Mk 5:27-5:37 …

>DRC: When she had heard of Jesus, came in the crowd behind him, and touched his garment. For she said: If I shall touch but his garment, I shall be whole. And forthwith the fountain of her blood was dried up, and she felt in her body that she was healed of the evil. And immediately Jesus knowing in himself the virtue that had proceeded from him, turning to the multitude, said: Who hath touched my garments?

>And his disciples said to him: Thou seest the multitude thronging thee, and sayest thou who hath touched me? And he looked about to see her who had done this. But the woman fearing and trembling, knowing what was done in her, came and fell down before him, and told him all the truth. And he said to her: Daughter, thy faith hath made thee whole: go in peace, and be thou whole of thy disease. While he was yet speaking, some come from the ruler of the synagogue's house, saying: Thy daughter is dead: why dost thou trouble the master any further?

>But Jesus having heard the word that was spoken, saith to the ruler of the synagogue: Fear not, only believe. And he admitted not any man to follow him, but Peter, and James, and John the brother of James.

>NAB:She had heard about Jesus and came up behind him in the crowd and touched his cloak.

>She said, “If I but touch his clothes, I shall be cured.”

>Immediately her flow of blood dried up. She felt in her body that she was healed of her affliction.

>Jesus, aware at once that power had gone out from him, turned around in the crowd and asked, “Who has touched my clothes?”

>But his disciples said to him, “You see how the crowd is pressing upon you, and yet you ask, ‘Who touched me?’”

>And he looked around to see who had done it.

>The woman, realizing what had happened to her, approached in fear and trembling. She fell down before Jesus and told him the whole truth.

>He said to her, “Daughter, your faith has saved you. Go in peace and be cured of your affliction.”e

>While he was still speaking, people from the synagogue official’s house arrived and said, “Your daughter has died; why trouble the teacher any longer?”

>Disregarding the message that was reported, Jesus said to the synagogue official, “Do not be afraid; just have faith.”

>He did not allow anyone to accompany him inside except Peter, James, and John, the brother of James.

>Muh KJV: When she had heard of Jesus, came in the press behind, and touched his garment.

>For she said, If I may touch but his clothes, I shall be whole.

>And straightway the fountain of her blood was dried up; and she felt in her body that she was healed of that plague.

>And Jesus, immediately knowing in himself that virtue had gone out of him, turned him about in the press, and said, Who touched my clothes?

>And his disciples said unto him, Thou seest the multitude thronging thee, and sayest thou, Who touched me?

>And he looked round about to see her that had done this thing.

>But the woman fearing and trembling, knowing what was done in her, came and fell down before him, and told him all the truth.

>And he said unto her, Daughter, thy faith hath made thee whole; go in peace, and be whole of thy plague.

>While he yet spake, there came from the ruler of the synagogue's house certain which said, Thy daughter is dead: why troublest thou the Master any further?

>As soon as Jesus heard the word that was spoken, he saith unto the ruler of the synagogue, Be not afraid, only believe.

>And he suffered no man to follow him, save Peter, and James, and John the brother of James.

Not really sure where you're getting anger out of that account, but feel free to keep grafting your own opinion onto Scripture. It's your soul, I suppose. ┐( ´ д ` )┌

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dbd514  No.825637

>>825581

My grandmother had problems with the rotary cuff and if your arm is pulled back like it was for Francis, the pain is agonizing. I can empathize with his pain

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ac63c3  No.825706

>Bergoglio slapped someone who grabbed him.

Looks like self defense to me.

If he was catholic, he'd have to confess the anger to his parish priest. I have no idea what the Pachamama cultist do. Probably sacrifice a guinea pig or llama or something.

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