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There is no salvation outside the Roman Catholic Church

that's all you need to know in this life

I am Methodist. Specifically, United Methodist, which is the largest denomination of the Methodist movement, although there are many smaller ones with marginal differences.

>And can you tell me what's the difference between your version of Protestantism and other versions?

Methodist liturgy is traditionally "high church" similar to Anglicanism, by which we are historically preceded. Worship tends to be more formal and traditional than in many Baptist churches or nondenominational churches.

We use an ecclesiastical system called the "connectional" system which is more similar to Catholic episcopal organization than Baptist congregational organization. The church as a whole is organized under a General Conference, which is organized into Jurisdictions led by bishops, making it different from congregational denominations (Baptism) where every individual congregation is autonomous. To become a minister, you have to study and be ordained by the bishop, and then be assigned to a local church, as opposed to other Protestant churches where anyone is allowed to become a minister at their whim. However, the laity is still invited to participate in matters of administration at every level, including the General Conference.

Theologically, we are different from Reformed and some Protestant churches in that we do not believe in predestination.

We believe only in the sacraments of Communion and Baptism, as opposed to Lutherans who also believe in Confession as a Sacrament. We practice infant baptism rather than adult baptism.

We do not believe in Sola Scripture but instead Prima Scriptura, or more specifically a system outlined by John Wesley that lists the four central sources of doctrine in order of supremacy: scripture, tradition, reason, and personal experience. Any questions that aren't answered by scripture are answered by tradition, anything not answered by tradition is answered by reason, and so on.

Obviously these are just hasty explanations, and if you are interested you should seek out and study more detailed sources, and attend service at a real Methodist church.

>>824503

Ironic

> Lutheran

> Better conservation of the early church than Catholics or Orthodox

> Salvation by faith, priest marriage, no Mary or saint worship, Christ is head of church… no “infallible leader (pope)”

> Real presence in Eucharist, Infant Baptism, Bible is ultimate authority but tradition also important

> 3 Sacraments - Baptism, Communion, Confession

> Keeps traditional liturgy, vestments, church calendar, even though none are necessary. Recognizes cannonized saints as good examples but uneceseary to venerate

> More commited to bible study, intellect, and theology than other Prots

> Some embarrassingly cuck factions (ELCA, church of Sweden) but those that keep the Concordia confessions are super traditionalist

Basically Lutheranism is Catholicism without the rediculous cannons and councils. It is void of retarded Protestant herasies like charismatics, believer’s baptism, bible idolatry, and the Anglican communion. It’s a descent moderate between Catholocism and Protestantism.

>>824524

>Lutheran

>Follower of a heretical monk that broke all his bows, then married a nun

Lutheranism is just the cult of Luther instead of the cult of Christ. You are just the more arrogant, self-contradictory, retarded branch.

>>824561

Did any of the Popes say that Christ committed fornication? Luther sure did. His entire doctrine is blasphemous and non-Christian.

>>824357

A very Catholic viewpoint.

>>824354

This answer focuses more on behaviour than theology or belief:

Catholics don't know the Bible so well and aren't so good at quoting it, in my experience. But they're good at regular church going, and take priesthood and Mass very seriously, and pray lots using pre-formed prayers. There's a lot of them. They're a very global denomination.

Protestants vary A LOT so it's harder to generalise. So many denominations. They might know their Bible well, or be good at spontaneous prayer, but in Europe they've lapsed a lot and seem more prone to secularism than Catholics. In USA Protestantism seems stronger, passionate and diverse but susceptible to consumer culture.

>>824563

You should start by converting.

>>824565

Accurate

>>824562

>Luther sure did

It provides sources for its claims or else it gets the hose again.

>>824573

I haven't heard contemporary Catholic clergy say all non-Catholics go to hell, but some laity can be bigoted. It's not the current Pope's position but some Catholics resent the Pope for not being hard enough.

>>824579

Suicide is a sin

>>824580

True

From "A Brief Catechism for Adults" by Fr. William J. Cogan, which bears the Imrimatur of Samuel Cardinal Stritch, Archbishop of Chicago (1958)

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A "non-Catholic" who, through no fault of his own, does not realize that the Catholic Church is the only true Church and who dies with Sanctifying Grace in his soul, will go to Heaven, since "Christ died for all" (2 Corinthians 5:15) and "will have all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth." (1 Timothy 2:4). Still, those who are not visibly members of the Catholic Church have many difficulties trying to save their souls without the guidance of that Church which cannot teach error and without her Sacraments, of which Baptism imparts the life of God to the soul (Sanctifying Grace) and with the other Sacraments add to the Sanctifying Grace in the soul, take away sins, and also give other graces that enable a person to do good and avoid Sin.

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Thus, Protestants may appear in heaven. Please, don't act too surprised when you see them there.