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55bf65 No.824160
Hi /christian/, I've been fascinated with the song "Jesus Walks" by Kanye West lately. While far from the most tasteful this kind of song could be, it does resonate with me on some level. I feel it's not a terrible representation of one's struggle to keep the faith in the kind of world we live in, all debate about Kanye's perspective on these things aside.
Can rap music still be tasteful and reverent in keeping with lyrics and themes for Christians to relate to? Any with high quality beats/production on Kanye's level?
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067ba1 No.824164
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>>824160
Personally rap will always be inferior to the music I have a bias twords, but I would be lying if I told you I didn't like outfits like C2six.
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334c9e No.824199
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Your reminder that DMX >>>>>>>>>>>>>> any given Christian band.
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331262 No.824318
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331262 No.824319
>>824318
I don't know how to embed
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dbd1d7 No.824320
Kanye thinks Jesus walks with him
followers of Christ walk with Jesus
there is a distinction here that should not be overlooked
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18eb59 No.824409
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>>824160
Tbh, I wish John Levi made more music
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df348b No.824410
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Another favorite of mine from FoundNation and C2six
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df348b No.824414
>>824318
>>824319
Here you go, newfriends. How to embed on 8chan
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5b4ad6 No.824470
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>>824160
>>824164
>>824410
You guys found a great rap group.
This song OutKast hits me right in those /christian/ feels
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0a74d6 No.824529
Frankly it's really cringy when people try to do stuff like this. There's so many good Christian music already, why try to appropriate degenerate stuff like metal, pop or rap and try to insert religious lyrics in it? It feels really contrived.
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fb497f No.824531
>>824529
>There's so many good Christian music already, why try to appropriate degenerate stuff like metal, pop or rap?
Because those genres are pretty complex and counter-culture, and it resonates with a lot of people like us.
>try to insert religious lyrics in it
That depends.
Ham-fisted christian rap/rock is extremely cringy.
Ones that are good rap/rock, and are also christian are extremely awesome.
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0a74d6 No.824535
>>824531
Perhaps it just comes down to a matter of personal taste, but what I don't like about those genres is that there is something intrinsecally rebellious (and ergo anti-Christian) within them. Rock, pop and rap all started as a way to protest against the traditional values at the time, which were deemed "opressive". Those genres played a huge part in the de-christianisation of the west and that's why I don't think Christians should have anything to do with them.
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221b35 No.824540
>>824535
>Rock, pop and rap all started as a way to protest against the traditional values at the time, which were deemed "opressive".
Society has always sucked balls, and pointing out it's hypocritical, uncaring and dehumanizing doesn't make you a SJW.
And given that now we are the counter-culture to liberal society's bullshit values, it fits.
>Those genres played a huge part in the de-christianisation of the west and that's why I don't think Christians should have anything to do with them.
By that logic, we should rebuke even the idea of movies of any kind, given a huge part of the techniques developed in cinema started in propaganda pieces of the Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, and the KKK, and the crap Hollywood spews is def not wholesome..
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2ab83a No.824547
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0a74d6 No.824584
>>824540
What? Whining about "society" is pretty much the SJW mindset. And besides, those genres didn't even protest against what was indeed bad in society, but rather against the good aspects of it (like sexual morality, sobriety, lawful authority and religion).
>By that logic, we should rebuke even the idea of movies of any kind
That analogy doesn't make any sense. It would maybe work if I was opposed to the "idea of music", but I'm not. I don't even think electric guitars, drums, synthesizers or whatever instruments rappers use are bad in themselves. Rather, I just pointed out that there are lots of unchristian things attached to those genres, like the aesthetics, imagery, subcultures and most lyrics. To me, it seems foolish to try to "convert" them into Christian music, but to each his own.
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067ba1 No.824595
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>>824584
I think it's actually a great testament to God's power over the world if we take a formerly degenerate music genre and use it to make wholesome, religious & Fire music. Have to remember in early Christian history we took a lot of pagan temples depaganized them and turn them Christian.
Just like how God takes some of the most degenerate and evil people and turns them into Saints ( Saints Augustine, Moses the black, and Paul comes to mind) God can turn "gangsta rappers" and transform them into breadpilled fire spitters.
Don't get me wrong it is unfortunate that people that were born in the modern society and act all "hood" but if they use the culture they grew up in to not only glorify God but to also bring others to Him, it hurts no one but satan himself. Some Christian rap can be pretty freaking cringy the DMX and Kanye west vids posted earlier comes to mind but if it's done right it could be pretty amazing.
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3ee41f No.824675
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hip-hop was the first genre I really got into. while most of it is very secular, there is a precedent for Christian references in rap, going back to the 80s.
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067ba1 No.824698
>>824676
Imagine being such a music snob that you hate people because they like something you don't.
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3f69aa No.824795
>>824160
Any track Wyclef Jean breathed on.
Music, when expressed in spirit, isn't inherently moral or immoral. It is the spirit which lends itself to good or ill.
>>824535
Christianity is indirect rebellion. Rejecting Satan's world in favor of The Truth. Christ Jesus left us with instruction to stay wary and prepare for persecution.
>>824540
The crucifixion was prophesied in Sirach (I think) as the wicked's response to a just man exposing their hypocrisy.
>>824584
Aaannd get winnie the poohed with your broad strokes. In every corner of this world, you'll find the deceiver. He holds no power over us, and couldn't stop The Spirit if he tried.
>Well, that's not very…
The most charitable thing is admonishing you now so you can grow as a person.
Evangelicals' "Christian Rock" is shit, tho. You want to see it done properly, listen to Audience (single) by The Cold War Kids.
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